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(Talking Points Memo)   Tsarnaev mother turned towards radicalism. Know how we know? Because she's not as uncovered as she was when she was younger. No seriously, that's the reason   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2013-04-29 08:23:13 AM  
She began wearing a hijab and cited conspiracy theories about 9/11 being a plot against Muslims.

ok, being a truther is even worse than being a terrorist.
 
2013-04-29 09:16:16 AM  

serial_crusher: She began wearing a hijab and cited conspiracy theories about 9/11 being a plot against Muslims.

ok, being a truther is even worse than being a terrorist.


1-media-cdn.foolz.us
 
2013-04-29 09:17:04 AM  
Makes perfect sense. Oh, wait, no, it doesn't. Because that's like racist, or something. Sorry. My bad.
 
2013-04-29 09:18:28 AM  

doubled99: Makes perfect sense. Oh, wait, no, it doesn't. Because that's like racist, or something. Sorry. My bad.


????????????? What are you talking about?
 
2013-04-29 09:18:51 AM  
Correlation alone does not imply causation.

When it adds to a huge pile of other correlations from a variety of sources that all indicate the exact same causation, though, it's good enough to call a theory.
 
2013-04-29 09:18:58 AM  
What, they found some polaroid nudes she did in her early 20s?
 
2013-04-29 09:19:09 AM  
Well yeah. You don't just up and start wearing a habib without being indoctrinated first.
 
2013-04-29 09:20:55 AM  
Screwups always turn to religion as they age.  Look at Jesus freaks.  They spent their early twenties farking up and now they're all Jesusified and doing great.

They're still farkups of course, but they don't get knocked up as frequently.
 
2013-04-29 09:21:24 AM  
Because she's not as uncovered as she was when she was younger.

/peers suspiciously at his 67 year-old mother.
 
2013-04-29 09:22:34 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: What, they found some polaroid nudes she did in her early 20s?


Got a link?
 
2013-04-29 09:27:09 AM  
i4.mirror.co.uk

She wasn't bad back in the day.
 
2013-04-29 09:27:52 AM  
No, seriously, that's the reason

That and the whole Truther schtick. I'm starting to think I can't trust the accuracy and honesty of Fark headlines.
 
2013-04-29 09:28:20 AM  
Makes perfect sense. Oh, wait, no, it doesn't. Because that's like racist, or something. Sorry. My bad.

????????????? What are you talking about?


You wouldn't understand
 
2013-04-29 09:31:35 AM  

abhorrent1: [i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x410]

She wasn't bad back in the day.


She still had the "don't give her your real name, address, or phone number" eyes.
 
2013-04-29 09:32:50 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Screwups always turn to religion as they age.  Look at Jesus freaks.  They spent their early twenties farking up and now they're all Jesusified and doing great.

They're still farkups of course, but they don't get knocked up as frequently.


It's contrition and remorse.  They think that by becoming ultra religious it will absolve them of all the drugs, booze, farking, cheating, lying, and other things that all teen and twenty-somethings do.
 
2013-04-29 09:36:07 AM  
She should be watched if she comes to the states but until she's shown to have contributed to the boys' radicalization she's just another mother in denial and mostly irrelevant.
 
2013-04-29 09:40:54 AM  
I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
cdn.theatlanticwire.com
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.
 
2013-04-29 09:41:53 AM  
Time to deploy Team America's Coont Poont division
 
2013-04-29 09:42:41 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: She should be watched if she comes to the states but until she's shown to have contributed to the boys' radicalization she's just another mother in denial and mostly irrelevant.


So what are we supposed to do with all these torches and pitchforks then, huh? Farm in the dark?

I don't think so.
 
2013-04-29 09:42:57 AM  
Sounds like the Uncle is the only person in that family that's not some kind of nutjob.
 
2013-04-29 09:43:26 AM  

zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
[cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 623x400]
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.


Correction: the baby is Tamerlan and is sitting on mother Zubeidat's lap. Father is left, uncle in uniform.
 
2013-04-29 09:44:43 AM  

zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:

cdn.theatlanticwire.com
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.

www.vashtie.com

/Hot in a crazy way.
 
2013-04-29 09:44:46 AM  

zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
[cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 623x400]
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.


The older son looks like Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver. Not a good sign.
 
2013-04-29 09:46:06 AM  
FTA: "Tsarnaev told the AP on Sunday he was too ill to travel to the U.S. Tsarnaeva faces a 2012 shoplifting charge in a Boston suburb, though it was unclear whether that was a deterrent."

Yea, a likely story...
He's just a pussy.
 
2013-04-29 09:46:16 AM  
In photos of her as a younger woman, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva wears a low-cut blouse

Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2013-04-29 09:46:28 AM  

DeathCipris: zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
[cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 623x400]
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.

[www.vashtie.com image 690x500]

/Hot in a crazy way.


And they're both shoplifters!
 
2013-04-29 09:48:38 AM  

AngryDragon: Rapmaster2000: Screwups always turn to religion as they age.  Look at Jesus freaks.  They spent their early twenties farking up and now they're all Jesusified and doing great.

They're still farkups of course, but they don't get knocked up as frequently.

It's contrition and remorse.  They think that by becoming ultra religious it will absolve them of all the drugs, booze, farking, cheating, lying, and other things that all teen and twenty-somethings do.


addictive personalities get addicted to Jeebus/ Allah/ Buddha/ world of warcraft just like anything else.

/ yes, time to bring up crazy Jeebus freaks again because of all the Jeebus bombings in the news
 
2013-04-29 09:50:05 AM  
Proud of your boys, mom?
 
2013-04-29 09:50:52 AM  

abhorrent1: [i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x410]

She wasn't bad back in the day.


You may want to have your Gay checked, because I think you want to have sex with Al Pacino.
 
2013-04-29 09:55:55 AM  

legion_of_doo: AngryDragon: Rapmaster2000: Screwups always turn to religion as they age.  Look at Jesus freaks.  They spent their early twenties farking up and now they're all Jesusified and doing great.

They're still farkups of course, but they don't get knocked up as frequently.

It's contrition and remorse.  They think that by becoming ultra religious it will absolve them of all the drugs, booze, farking, cheating, lying, and other things that all teen and twenty-somethings do.

addictive personalities get addicted to Jeebus/ Allah/ Buddha/ world of warcraft just like anything else.

/ yes, time to bring up crazy Jeebus freaks again because of all the Jeebus bombings in the news


Would you want to live next one of these Jesus people?  Would you let your daughter date one of them?
 
2013-04-29 09:55:57 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
[cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 623x400]
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.

The older son looks like Robert De Niro in Taxi Driver. Not a good sign.


I screwed up. Apparently, 'older son' is actually the dad. Mom is holding the now dead Tamerlan.
 
2013-04-29 09:56:09 AM  
Subby, got a good book for you:

img2.imagesbn.com

 But in recent years, people noticed a change. She began wearing a hijab and cited conspiracy theories about 9/11 being a plot against Muslims.
 
2013-04-29 10:02:49 AM  
I've known her type.... The immigrants who for some reason become disillusioned with life in America due to personal problems, then letting everyone know about that and at the same time loosing a basic link to the minds of their children. It is "blame someone else" mentality...
 
2013-04-29 10:10:00 AM  
I can understand being embarrassed and appalled at the backlash, and as a result trying to rationalize why your religion was associated with 9/11.  It's flawed but I see the process.
I can understand going to Natick and seeing a bunch of stores with only 5-10 items in the entire store where one sale makes the entire week's rent, tempting you to want to steal things.  Again, flawed but I see the process.
I can see her putting on a hijab so as to cover herself enough to smuggle stolen items.  Again, flawed thinking, no one follows old white ladies, but I see the process.

She's a petty criminal who lacked accountability and raised her sons the same way.  Her thinking was theirs, plus somewhere along the line there's mass murder and weapons.  The book will be a good read.
 
2013-04-29 10:11:21 AM  
Stilling pissing our pants about this, eh? I wonder how many people drunk drivers have killed and maimed while we've been yelping and screeching about this?
Land of the punks and the home of the pussies.
The terrorists have SO won.
 
2013-04-29 10:11:42 AM  
Our story so far.

1. Cute, in Caucasian Goth sort of way, possibly Abby's cousin on NCIS
2. Bad hair day.
3. Scarf denotes dangerous violent extremism
4. You try your damndest to make sense of 9/11
5. You keep pundits in coke
 
2013-04-29 10:13:45 AM  
Actually, from what I've been hearing, the boxing crap may have pushed him over the edge.

TL:DR version (as I understand it-I may have a detail wrong)

Older brother is a good enough boxer to potentially qualify for the olympics.
Older brother *has* submitted citizenship paperwork, etc.

Citizenship paperwork gets held up.

Older Brother is denied opportunity to qualify for the olympics due to not (yet) being a US Citizen.

Older brother learns (believes? This is the part I'm hazy on, I'm not sure if this was established fact or just delusion) that his citizenship paperwork was intentionally messed up/errored/etc to ensure that someone else gets to qualify.


Now, note, I'm hazy on the last part: Whether that's paranoid delusion, or whether there was evidence of it or not. Either way it excuses nothing, of course.
 
2013-04-29 10:17:27 AM  

DeathCipris: zetar: I believe this is the photo people are talking about:
[cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 623x400]
Yes, those are the Tsarnaev boys.

[www.vashtie.com image 690x500]

/Hot in a crazy way.


First time I saw this photo I thought the mother was the one on the right what with being Chechans and all
 
2013-04-29 10:20:36 AM  
Rapmaster2000


Screwups always turn to religion as they age. Look at Jesus freaks.

Islamists murder and maim. Fark-tards react with bu bu but Jesus!!!!
 
2013-04-29 10:21:33 AM  

OnlyM3: Rapmaster2000


Screwups always turn to religion as they age. Look at Jesus freaks.
Islamists murder and maim. Fark-tards react with bu bu but Jesus!!!!


Ha ha.  You like Jesus.

I bet you still live with your mother.
 
2013-04-29 10:22:07 AM  
My mother was an immigrant who converted to born again christianity, and fled the country with my brothers in 2008, because obama was an antichrist, so I am getting a kick...

/none of that was a lie
 
2013-04-29 10:25:11 AM  

OnlyM3: Rapmaster2000


Screwups always turn to religion as they age. Look at Jesus freaks.
Islamists murder and maim. Fark-tards react with bu bu but Jesus!!!!


Yep. It's not an Islam problem, it's a RELIGION problem!

Dark dhimmis ... such a pitiable breed.
 
2013-04-29 10:25:30 AM  

Sh0nuff: Sounds like the Uncle is the only person in that family that's not some kind of nutjob.


The sisters got away and are keeping quiet on the bombing. That seems very smart.

Also, the one sister got out of an arranged marriage. She has assimilated better than her brothers.
 
2013-04-29 10:27:00 AM  
I'd pound that like a Russian T-90 tank.
 
2013-04-29 10:28:10 AM  

Chach: OnlyM3: Rapmaster2000


Screwups always turn to religion as they age. Look at Jesus freaks.
Islamists murder and maim. Fark-tards react with bu bu but Jesus!!!!

Yep. It's not an Islam problem, it's a RELIGION problem!

Dark dhimmis ... such a pitiable breed.


Hey Jesusboy, how was church yesterday?  How's that new youth pastor working out?  LOL.
 
2013-04-29 10:31:13 AM  
Actually the reason we know she turned to fundamentalism is thanks to many relatives and friends who have chimed in to say that she first became religious and then she pushed her sons to become religious and then pushed them to become more and more radicalized.
 
2013-04-29 10:36:02 AM  

Felgraf: Actually, from what I've been hearing, the boxing crap may have pushed him over the edge.

TL:DR version (as I understand it-I may have a detail wrong)

Older brother is a good enough boxer to potentially qualify for the olympics.
Older brother *has* submitted citizenship paperwork, etc.

Citizenship paperwork gets held up.

Older Brother is denied opportunity to qualify for the olympics due to not (yet) being a US Citizen.

Older brother learns (believes? This is the part I'm hazy on, I'm not sure if this was established fact or just delusion) that his citizenship paperwork was intentionally messed up/errored/etc to ensure that someone else gets to qualify.


Now, note, I'm hazy on the last part: Whether that's paranoid delusion, or whether there was evidence of it or not. Either way it excuses nothing, of course.


Only a scientist goes to that much effort to point out how much they don't know.

/carry on
 
2013-04-29 10:37:13 AM  
She was a radical when she was in the Pretenders as well....just a different sort.
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-29 10:39:28 AM  

AGremlin: She was a radical when she was in the Pretenders as well....just a different sort.
[img.photobucket.com image 403x600]


That cat has the greatest "Leave me the fark alone" face.
 
2013-04-29 10:42:17 AM  

Bondith: Only a scientist goes to that much effort to point out how much they don't know.

/carry on


I helped write an entire paper we got published on something like that! =D

/Well, it was more "WE AIN'T FOUND shiat" when attempting to replicating a group's results. As another group had also been unable to replicate them, this was actually publishable.
 
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