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(Bangor Daily News)   You might be a redneck if your two 7 month old pit bull pups bite a 12 y/o girl. If you named them Jager and Meister that kinda seals the deal   (bangordailynews.com) divider line 184
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2013-04-28 07:34:34 PM
Kill them all!

Not really a fan of the dogs either.
 
2013-04-28 07:54:02 PM
RE: part one: You might be a Chinese jet pilot, too.
RE: part two: Well, yeah.
 
2013-04-28 08:46:37 PM
I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.

\guessing if the owner's dumb enough to name the dogs that, he probably isn't taking care of them either.
 
2013-04-28 09:03:10 PM
My bad.
 
2013-04-28 09:18:20 PM
I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.
 
2013-04-28 09:23:33 PM
The girl, who was bitten on her legs and shoulder, was taken to Frisbie Memorial Hospital

I don't think they thought their cunning plan all the way through...
 
2013-04-28 09:37:41 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Kill them all!

Not really a fan of the dogs either.


Yes well, any dog is a excellent judge of character.
 
2013-04-28 10:02:07 PM
Kid shouldn't have been eating food that belongs to the dogs.
 
2013-04-28 10:42:17 PM
7 month old dogs? So puppies?  Puppies bite farking everything.  Everything.
 
2013-04-28 10:42:44 PM
If he'd gone with Peanut Butter and Chocolate this never would have happened
 
2013-04-28 10:46:59 PM
Aaaaand they're from Maine. Yep, redneck hicks who must be put in their place.
 
2013-04-28 10:47:58 PM
Those are good names for breasts.
 
2013-04-28 10:50:14 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that of all dogs it was the pitbull breed that was involved in this attack.

Too bad if they decide the dogs have to be put down. I wonder how well the fiancee was raising these pups.
 
2013-04-28 10:51:19 PM
;Married a woman 17 years ago that had two pit bull/ Rottweiller mix dogs.  Very aggressive dogs.

Smith and Wesson.
 
2013-04-28 10:51:32 PM
Could have been worse.
Could have been "Rémy" and "Martin".
 
2013-04-28 10:51:44 PM
In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.
 
2013-04-28 10:53:28 PM
Should have named them Prince and Albert.
 
2013-04-28 10:53:38 PM
The incident took place at the home of the girl's mother, Catherine Sargent, and her fiancé, Rory Downs

I'm imagining a June wedding. The honeymoon will be at Disney World, no doubt.

I'd also have been interested to learn the girls name.

/ guessing 'Savannah'
 
2013-04-28 10:53:45 PM
A 12-year-old girl suffered more than a dozen bites when she was attacked Friday afternoon by her family's two pit bulls named Jager and Meister, according to the Maine State Police.

/Q all the pit bull apologists who will cry saying "but..but my pit is a nice doggie, so you haters are alllll wrong, they are ALLL nice doggies who give you slobbery kisses and love you, and others."
 
2013-04-28 10:54:25 PM
Someday, I plan on getting a golden lab and a chocolate lab and naming them Beavis and Butt-Head.

/dead serious
//farking love that show
 
2013-04-28 10:55:01 PM

serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.


Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?
 
2013-04-28 10:58:00 PM

orclover: 7 month old dogs? So puppies?  Puppies bite farking everything.  Everything.


My dog was 55 lbs. at 7 months old. Two 7 month old dogs could certainly hurt or kill a 12 year old girl if they're as big as mine was.

I like how the girls escaped by climbing in to a pickup that was in the yard. As if the rest of the story didn't scream redneck central already.
 
2013-04-28 10:58:12 PM

darkjezter: Someday, I plan on getting a golden lab and a chocolate lab and naming them Beavis and Butt-Head.


I'd like a pair of female German Shepherds named Eva and Geli.
 
2013-04-28 10:58:14 PM
Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!
 
2013-04-28 10:58:30 PM

stiletto_the_wise: In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.


Do you have any reason to believe otherwise? Other than anecdotes?
 
2013-04-28 10:58:33 PM
The article did not mention if the pickup she climbed on was operational or not. I am assuming it was on blocks with no motor in it.
 
2013-04-28 10:58:59 PM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


I have a CSR in my office that talks about her pit bulls, jack and Daniels, everyone hates her and I will print off this article because these dogs are pit bulls and she gets furious if you tell her they are aggressive dogs.
 
2013-04-28 11:00:34 PM
Bartles and Jaymes?
 
2013-04-28 11:03:13 PM
Was the girl's name Brandy?
 
2013-04-28 11:03:27 PM

Gyrfalcon: Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!


https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.
 
2013-04-28 11:04:20 PM

Hot Carl To Go: The article did not mention if the pickup she climbed on was operational or not. I am assuming it was on blocks with no motor in it.


The house was probably on wheels too.

/Gramma keeps a spit cup on the ironing board
//Momma doesn't take the Marlboro out of her mouth when she tell the State Trooper to "kiss my ass"
///I have been too drunk to fish
 
2013-04-28 11:07:20 PM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


Zi and Ma
 
2013-04-28 11:07:25 PM

great_tigers: Gyrfalcon: Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!

https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.


If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy. It has to do with the immaturity of the animal. That said, I'm sure it was not the first time the dogs had been aggressive, and I'm sure all previous incidents had been laughed off because they were "so cyute". Just like when the neighbor's Chihuahua nibbles your ankles.
 
2013-04-28 11:08:18 PM
I don't even care about the breed in this case. The fact that a dog-bite victim was taken to Frisbie Memorial Hospital is enough for me.

I hear patients hate the place, however. Staff keeps leaving them up on the roof.
 
2013-04-28 11:10:46 PM
Years ago pit bulls **were** awesome dogs.  Smart, loyal, and fairly gentle.  However, in the late 80's /early 90's they started to get popular.  Some breeders, desperate for more money, started intensive inbreeding programs, all in the name of revenue.  I really don't know if there are any "pure" blood lines left, as is the story with a number of other breeds.  Pitties, among other breeds, seem exceptionally susceptible to producing less-than-desirable traits as a result of inbreeding.  They seem to have a hidden "switch" in their brains that causes a seemingly docile dog to go temporarily feral, then back to docile in a matter of minutes.

Just my $.02, but I've seen the results, and have a nearly universal distrust of pitties now.
 
2013-04-28 11:11:58 PM
Glen and Fiddich? Glen and Morangie?

Captain and Morgan?

Don and Julio?/Jose and Cuervo?

Tank and Erray?

Beef and Eater....er, forget that one for this article.
 
2013-04-28 11:12:06 PM

ISO15693: John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?

Zi and Ma


No no, it's Zima and Vomit.
 
2013-04-28 11:13:54 PM

xanadian: The girl, who was bitten on her legs and shoulder, was taken to Frisbie Memorial Hospital

I don't think they thought their cunning plan all the way through...


I actually laughed out loud.
 
2013-04-28 11:14:45 PM
CSB:

My nerd buddy has two terrier mixes named Ajax and Ruby.
 
2013-04-28 11:16:29 PM
FTFA: The trooper said the dog's shots were not up to date and the dogs are now quarantined.

Bonus fail.
 
2013-04-28 11:18:14 PM

stiletto_the_wise: In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.


My rescued girl is only part-pit, and she just tried to kill me with one of her farts.
 
2013-04-28 11:19:53 PM

Fat_46: Years ago pit bulls **were** awesome dogs.  Smart, loyal, and fairly gentle.  However, in the late 80's /early 90's they started to get popular.  Some breeders, desperate for more money, started intensive inbreeding programs, all in the name of revenue.  I really don't know if there are any "pure" blood lines left, as is the story with a number of other breeds.  Pitties, among other breeds, seem exceptionally susceptible to producing less-than-desirable traits as a result of inbreeding.  They seem to have a hidden "switch" in their brains that causes a seemingly docile dog to go temporarily feral, then back to docile in a matter of minutes.

Just my $.02, but I've seen the results, and have a nearly universal distrust of pitties now.


No, I've heard that and I don't buy it. I don't think they are any worse (or any better) than any other breed--although inbreeding and puppy mills are no doubt magnifying bad traits. It's just that pit bulls were created for a very special purpose: To fight in (obviously) dog pits. So they were bred hundreds of years ago when the lines first got started from bull terriers and bulldogs for their bite strength, powerful necks and shoulders, what breeders and trainers call "go" or forward drive, and to tend to ignore instinctive surrender signals that other dogs give when they're beaten. Because after all, dog fighters don't want a dog that will show mercy when the beaten dog whines, cowers or rolls over in submission. They want two dogs that will neither surrender nor acknowledge a surrender.

The result is a dog that is no more likely to attack than a Chihuahua; the difference is when it does, it's harder to pull back (because it's much stronger and heavier), does a lot more damage (because it has bigger jaws with more musculature), is undeterred by the other dog's size, and tends to ignore cowering or cringing as a sign of surrender. There's a dumbass woman up the block who has a very ill-mannered Chihuahua mix: It lunges, snaps, barks, does all the things that would make it a killer if it was a pit bull. Since it's a rat dog, she can control it with one hand on the leash, and if it was loose, a five-year old child could kick it across the road. But it's just as mean and aggressive as any killer pit bull.
 
2013-04-28 11:20:19 PM
"If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.
 
2013-04-28 11:23:43 PM

skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.


Two 7-pound Chihuahuas would do more damage than those pitties, every single time.  Chihuahua's are more aggressive due to their small stature and can be like piranha.
 
2013-04-28 11:25:37 PM
Might be a Mexican if they were named Jose and Cuervo
 
2013-04-28 11:25:41 PM
I have a half pit half Boston terrier.

Best dog ever, she is small 40lbs and looks just like a pit.

My little mini-pit.

Her name is Grendel.
 
2013-04-28 11:25:53 PM

TomD9938: darkjezter: Someday, I plan on getting a golden lab and a chocolate lab and naming them Beavis and Butt-Head.

I'd like a pair of female German Shepherds named Eva and Geli.


I have a Golden named Trapper and a Wolfhound named Hawkeye.
 
2013-04-28 11:26:39 PM

another cultural observer: skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.

Two 7-pound Chihuahuas would do more damage than those pitties, every single time.  Chihuahua's are more aggressive due to their small stature and can be like piranha.


Daschunds are viscious.
 
2013-04-28 11:27:44 PM
I have a pit and he's ok. He does get aggressive around other male dogs but it is the nature of that breed. Nearly every domestic dog we have today was originally bred for purpose. Pit bulls were, and still are though its now frowned uppn, bred for strength and agression. Of course they're fairly easy to train and are harmless if treated properly.
 
2013-04-28 11:28:09 PM

skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.


Mentally. 7-month pups are still playing and have no idea they can kill with one bite. Size wise, I've seen three-month Akitas that could take your head off.
 
2013-04-28 11:28:14 PM
Is this the thread where all the pitbull apologists try to tell us what innocent angels these raging hellbeasts really are?
 
2013-04-28 11:30:46 PM

FriarReb98: I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.

\guessing if the owner's dumb enough to name the dogs that, he probably isn't taking care of them either.


Huh?

Meh. The names aren't particularly clever or stupid.

/Letting your idiot dogs chow down on kids does prove you're a moron, though.
 
2013-04-28 11:33:06 PM

velvet_fog: Is this the thread where all the pitbull apologists try to tell us what innocent angels these raging hellbeasts really are?


No, it's one where an extensive, in-depth breed analysis is performed, and it is determined that the dogs in the article aren't pitbulls, they're some "mix" so pitbulls are OK.  Or, pitbulls as such don't really exist anymore and the ones that do exist are angels, so pitbulls are ok.  Or, it was the kid's fault.  Basically any of these.

Stupid kid should have never looked the pittie in the eye....of COURSE an attack occurred!
 
2013-04-28 11:33:29 PM
The dog of peace strikes again.
 
2013-04-28 11:33:31 PM
Screw pitbulls, Pit Bull, tattooed redneck methheads, undeserving welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, and everyone who supports them. And screw Barbra streisand and Bill Maher for good measure.
 
2013-04-28 11:34:50 PM
But the Pit Bull is the Dog of Peace™, or in this case the Puppy of Peace™.
 
2013-04-28 11:35:35 PM
I've basically dogs as pets ever since I was born... everything from Rotts, to Pitts, to Border Collies, to Shih-Tzu's, and almost everything in between. The worst behaved dogs, by far, were the small little yappy dogs. The Chihuahuas, the Terriers, etc... The best behaved dogs were the collies. The most affectionate, playful, and loving dogs were the "scary" dogs - Rotts and the Pitts.

This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.
 
2013-04-28 11:35:41 PM

Gyrfalcon: great_tigers: Gyrfalcon: Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!

https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.

If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy. It has to do with the immaturity of the animal. That said, I'm sure it was not the first time the dogs had been aggressive, and I'm sure all previous incidents had been laughed off because they were "so cyute". Just like when the neighbor's Chihuahua nibbles your ankles.


It's both the immaturity of the animal and the upbringing.  I adopted a 1-yo Great Dane 4 months ago who'd never been trained or socialized.  She's a 120-lb puppy and her training priority was housebreaking, stopping her from jumping on people, and stopping her from biting.  It's been 4 months and the first 2 priorities were taken care of within a month (although she'll still try to jump if she's excited but a firm command will snap her out of it).  But the biting takes more time, again, especially if she's excited.  Because she'a a puppy and she wasn't trained.

But only an asshole would own a large puppy and not train it out of biting people.  We didn't even introduce her to new people for the first 2 months we had her, just to be on the safe side.
 
2013-04-28 11:37:36 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.


www.aerojockey.com
 
2013-04-28 11:39:06 PM

Yakk: FTFA: The trooper said the dog's shots were not up to date and the dogs are now quarantined.

Bonus fail.


This. sure sign owners are morans. neglectful, stupid morans.
 
2013-04-28 11:39:08 PM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


Night & Train
Mad Dog & 20/20 (20/20 on his papers, but I'd call 'em "40".)
Blue & Nun
Cold & Duck
Rumple Minze & Vomit
Fightin' & Cock
Ou & Zo
Ernest & Julio
Bartles & James
Cisco & Four Loko
Champagne & Purell
 
2013-04-28 11:39:37 PM

aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]


Uh oh, here comes the "some small dog once bit off a baby's toe" anecdote.
 
2013-04-28 11:39:55 PM

aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]


Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.
 
2013-04-28 11:40:25 PM
What am I if I name them Purple & Drank?
 
2013-04-28 11:41:27 PM
And yes, I know 20/20 is 1. I said 40 because it's another booze reference. You call your dogs Mad Dog and One if you want.
 
2013-04-28 11:42:09 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]

Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.


It's cool.  Just wanted to point out that there is a reason why lapdog, however vicious they are, aren't considered dangerous breeds while pits are.
 
2013-04-28 11:43:03 PM

bearded clamorer: Could have been worse.
Could have been "Rémy" and "Martin".


Those are the names of my sister-in-law's dogs, one pitbull mix & a lab mix.  They're not aggressive but they're untrained and annoying--jumping on people, thinking they're lap dogs, constantly barking.  And yes, she's white trash--even my husband will be the first to admit that.
 
2013-04-28 11:43:07 PM
DubtodaIll: I have a pit and he's ok. He does get aggressive around other male dogs but it is the nature of that breed. Nearly every domestic dog we have today was originally bred for purpose. Pit bulls were, and still are though its now frowned uppn, bred for strength and agression. Of course they're fairly easy to train and are harmless if treated properly.

Shhh. You'll never convince these idiots. Before pit bulls, it was rottweilers, dobermans, German shepherds.... The Media needs its bogeymen, and right now it's pit bulls, and these idiots just lap it up.
 
2013-04-28 11:44:40 PM

aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]

Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.

It's cool.  Just wanted to point out that there is a reason why lapdog, however vicious they are, aren't considered dangerous breeds while pits are.


Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.
 
2013-04-28 11:49:39 PM
Ever and Clear?
 
2013-04-28 11:49:39 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's just that pit bulls were created for a very special purpose: To fight in (obviously) dog pits


No, they were bred to fight bears & bulls in pits, NOT other dogs.  That's why they're called BULL dogs.  In fact, aggressiveness towards other dogs & people were purposely bred out of them for centuries.  Bear- and bull-baiting were a popular sport in Europe until the 19th century.  Those dogs bring in a lot of money.  You don't want prize pit bulls going after each other or suddenly turning on the crowd watching them.

The rest of your post is just more assumptions from someone who doesn't know the breeds or their history.   Pit bull-type dogs are no more dangerous than any other dog their size that wasn't trained or treated properly.
 
2013-04-28 11:51:42 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: stiletto_the_wise: In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.

Do you have any reason to believe otherwise? Other than anecdotes?


/Well...that fact that many cities are considering..or have, outlawed this breed.  And they wouldnt do that if there wasn't a problem. You don't grease a non squeaking wheel.
 
2013-04-28 11:53:25 PM
you'll notice that show is called Pitbulls and Parolees.

Not Pitbulls and High Class people who make over 100,000 grand a year..
 
2013-04-28 11:54:21 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.

Stupid people? How about people who don't trust them regardless of all of the PSA's done by internet tough guys.

My Beagle won't kill a child if his tail is stepped on and he lashes out. A Pit Bill may very well kill a child and not mean to. But you keep right on defending your loaded-weapon pet, you too can be cool in your trailer park. No amount of nurturing can ever fully prepare you for the unpredictability that is dogs. I personally would rather risk a Beagle bite than a wrongful death lawsuit should my dog attack. Pits may be the nicest dog this side of never, I'll never know, because I will never own one.

My beloved German Shepherd was put down while I was a child because a friend of mine whacked him with a stick accidentally while playing fetch and he scalped her. He'd never been aggressive with anyone up until that point, but all it takes is that one off thing. I hope your insurance is good, because my parents got a $50,000 lawsuit and had to pay medical bills on top of it.
 
2013-04-28 11:55:37 PM

orclover: 7 month old dogs? So puppies?  Puppies bite farking everything.  Everything.


True. My 4-month old is a mouthy little monster, but he is just about 5 lbs so nobody cares the way they would being nommed upon by a 7-month old pit bull.
 
2013-04-28 11:55:57 PM
In related news, most pitbull owners are dirtbags. Look at me on my Harley and look at my tats.
 
2013-04-28 11:56:14 PM
Godammit and Jesus Christ

/what my brother and I thought our names were
//not meant as a compliment
///perfect for unruly mutts, though
 
2013-04-28 11:57:40 PM

great_tigers: https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.


You do realize that unless you put quotes around it (and sometimes, even if you do), Google will happily ignore your chosen search terms and/or replace them with something it considers to be equivalent (even though it's sometimes the polar opposite of your search term), right?

ie. a search for "7 month old pit bull" without quotes will happily show you pictures of pit bulls at any age, seven month olds who aren't pit bulls, and... well, anything up to and including seven old bulls, I'd imagine.

Put quotes around your search and suddenly most of the results look a lot less ferocious.

/pitbulls are still evil
 
2013-04-28 11:57:58 PM
Ghetto Ponies
 
2013-04-29 12:01:19 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: stiletto_the_wise: In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.

Do you have any reason to believe otherwise? Other than anecdotes?

/Well...that fact that many cities are considering..or have, outlawed this breed.  And they wouldnt do that if there wasn't a problem. You don't grease a non squeaking wheel.


Oh I'm sure there are squeaky wheels when it comes to the breed. Just look at this thread.
 
2013-04-29 12:02:03 AM

Zombie DJ: you'll notice that show is called Pitbulls and Parolees.

Not Pitbulls and High Class people who make over 100,000 grand a year..


THIS...all day long.
 
2013-04-29 12:02:05 AM
This headline is terrible. Submitter needs to be in line for the guillotine after all the bankers.
 
2013-04-29 12:03:07 AM

Poowaddins: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.

Stupid people? How about people who don't trust them regardless of all of the PSA's done by internet tough guys.

My Beagle won't kill a child if his tail is stepped on and he lashes out. A Pit Bill may very well kill a child and not mean to. But you keep right on defending your loaded-weapon pet, you too can be cool in your trailer park. No amount of nurturing can ever fully prepare you for the unpredictability that is dogs. I personally would rather risk a Beagle bite than a wrongful death lawsuit should my dog attack. Pits may be the nicest dog this side of never, I'll never know, because I will never own one.

My beloved German Shepherd was put down while I was a child because a friend of mine whacked him with a stick accidentally while playing fetch and he scalped her. He'd never been aggressive with anyone up until that point, but all it takes is that one off thing. I hope your insurance is good, because my parents got a $50,000 lawsuit and had to pay medical bills on top of it.


So.. to make your point about how evil pit bulls are, you use an anecdote with a... German Shepherd?

So why not ban German Shepherds?
 
2013-04-29 12:03:55 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've basically dogs as pets ever since I was born... everything from Rotts, to Pitts, to Border Collies, to Shih-Tzu's, and almost everything in between. The worst behaved dogs, by far, were the small little yappy dogs. The Chihuahuas, the Terriers, etc... The best behaved dogs were the collies. The most affectionate, playful, and loving dogs were the "scary" dogs - Rotts and the Pitts.

This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.


My border collie was a neurotic crazy thing - Inexperienced dog owners plus a working dog with no job to do. My current half pug, half chihuahua is the sweetest dog I have ever owned. Not yappy or snappy, very chill. The jury is still out on the new Babby - but I think the trick with small dogs is to treat them as you would the big dogs. They don't have to be yappy little monsters unless you let them be.
 
2013-04-29 12:04:09 AM

Poowaddins: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.

Stupid people? How about people who don't trust them regardless of all of the PSA's done by internet tough guys.

My Beagle won't kill a child if his tail is stepped on and he lashes out. A Pit Bill may very well kill a child and not mean to. But you keep right on defending your loaded-weapon pet, you too can be cool in your trailer park. No amount of nurturing can ever fully prepare you for the unpredictability that is dogs. I personally would rather risk a Beagle bite than a wrongful death lawsuit should my dog attack. Pits may be the nicest dog this side of never, I'll never know, because I will never own one.

My beloved German Shepherd was put down while I was a child because a friend of mine whacked him with a stick accidentally while playing fetch and he scalped her. He'd never been aggressive with anyone up until that point, but all it takes is that one off thing. I hope your insurance is good, because my parents got a $50,000 lawsuit and had to pay medical bills on top of it.


Oh, please disregard my previous response. You're a fat white chick on the internet, no wonder you have horribly-formed opinions.
 
2013-04-29 12:05:49 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]

Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.

It's cool.  Just wanted to point out that there is a reason why lapdog, however vicious they are, aren't considered dangerous breeds while pits are.

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.


My poorly trained laptop just sits there.
 
2013-04-29 12:06:29 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]

Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.

It's cool.  Just wanted to point out that there is a reason why lapdog, however vicious they are, aren't considered dangerous breeds while pits are.

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.


In that sense of "dangerous", a well-trained 6-year-old with a handgun is less dangerous that a poorly-trained toddler with a wooden block. This is not really a strong argument in favor of open carry for 6-year-olds.

There are plenty of dogs that could attack me all day long without causing me anything more than annoyance. They are less dangerous than any pit bull simply because they're crappy little excuses for dogs. That doesn't mean pit bulls are evil or inherently unstable or should be banned, but it makes sense to recognize that they have greater potential for doing serious harm than most other breeds.

/my laptop is very well trained, it is responding properly to every keystroke
 
2013-04-29 12:07:18 AM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


Farr and Queue
 
2013-04-29 12:14:27 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: This is all with the same family, and all with the same training and environment. I'd trust kids alone with a pit bull over a lapdog any day.

[www.aerojockey.com image 567x236]

Hey, I'm all about executing bad dog owners. fark 'em.

It's cool.  Just wanted to point out that there is a reason why lapdog, however vicious they are, aren't considered dangerous breeds while pits are.

Stupid people consider them a "dangerous breed", sure. Reasonable, relatively intelligent people understand that a poorly trained laptop is certainly more dangerous than a well-trained pitt. I'll expect a response in the form of another very, very clever jpeg.


Smart people consider them dangerous until it's proven otherwise.

If you're wrong with a Pit you could die. If you're wrong with a Peke you might have to buy new socks.

My friends that have had Pits were all smart people and trained their dogs well. They were good around kids, mailmen--whoever. But I have run across some people who had dogs that came from stock that rednecks bred for fighting, too. Those jerks kept their dogs on chains in their yards and did not socialize them with other people or dogs. If you weren't a family member and you went to that house those dogs would strain at their chains and bark their throats raw, slavering.

Dogs of any ilk are only as good as their owners. And as you are so fond of pointing out--there are a bunch of stupid people in the world. I think it's only farking prudent to cautiously approach any dogs that can easily rip out your throat.
 
2013-04-29 12:23:59 AM
I love morons like Dow Jones. We get it, you have a very small penis and a very big dog. You probably also have a biatchin' mullet that drives your female co-workers at Walmart crazy!   How's the Camero?
 
2013-04-29 12:24:16 AM
www.nokilldelaware.org
 
2013-04-29 12:25:54 AM
Or...

Are you a brilliant troll playing all of us like violins???
 
2013-04-29 12:26:55 AM

QCB79: [www.nokilldelaware.org image 600x600]


The last one should be labelled "AK-47"
 
2013-04-29 12:35:17 AM

another cultural observer: skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.

Two 7-pound Chihuahuas would do more damage than those pitties, every single time.  Chihuahua's are more aggressive due to their small stature and can be like piranha.


^ Freaking this. I remember these couple of assholes in my neighborhood, during my childhood, who had a couple of chihuahuas. I didn't think very much of them, especially the bigger one (if "bigger" counts for anything) who kept viciously barking at me. That all changed one day when that damn farking rat bit my ankle.

In addition to my furious parents afterwards, there was now enough sound reason for me to HHHHATE the ugly little bastards. Still do to this day.
 
2013-04-29 12:38:56 AM

another cultural observer: Two 7-pound Chihuahuas would do more damage than those pitties, every single time.  Chihuahua's are more aggressive due to their small stature and can be like piranha.


Said someone who has obviously never actually been bitten by a Chihuahua. My wife's can't even break skin. He has to literally wrestle with his kibble, one piece at a time. Chihuahuas are aggressive because of their small size, but it's 100% bluff. Unless they hook a nostril, they have zero ability to actually cause damage.
 
2013-04-29 12:42:50 AM

skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.


My full grown pitbulls weigh 45 and 60 pounds respectably.  At 7 months, neither of them were anywhere close to 55lbs.  More like 20lbs.  Are you trolling? Are all of you trolling? Or are all of you really this farking stupid?  Is half of this thread made up of trolls from the pitbull/circumcision brigades?

That has to be the answer.  Otherwise I am drowning in a thread full of stupidity.  Wait, its a pitbull thread, i'm honestly not drunk enough to deal with this much trolling.

/welcometofark.jpg
 
2013-04-29 12:43:32 AM
To be honest, doesn't Pit Bull prefer 12 year olds? Isn't that the M.O. of "rap" artists?
 
2013-04-29 12:50:28 AM
I have owned Labradors my whole life. My dogs without exception have played with children from of all ages, including infants and toddlers. The kids sit on the dogs heads, pull and bite ears, twist nipples, yank on tails. The only response from the dogs I have ever seen is a whimper, and getting up to move away from the child. Even in rough play with older kids biting is essentially "mouthing" the child to say "that's quite enough,thank you. I have never seen broken skin or bruising in any incident. The breed is a huge part of any dog/human interaction. Own pitbulls, akitas, chows, chihuahuas etc... all you like, but for Christs sake, don't let them loose near children or anyone else you don't want to see bitten. I don't care if your little pitty is "such an angel" and wouldn't hurt a fly. Statistics generally don't lie. And dog bites are not only painful, but can emotionally scar people and turn them against our four legged friends for life.
I am not discounting animal abuse and neglect as contributing to this problem, but if it was my kid.. I sure as hell wouldn't take a chance.

/my two cents
//flame away pitbull owners
 
2013-04-29 12:51:12 AM
When I was a kid, one of my neighbors had a german shepherd named Michelob. One day, my neighbor was out walking him and my mother told her not to let the dog get too close to me because she was afraid he'd bite me. The neighbor assured her that he'd never bite anyone. As soon as she said it, Michelob bit me right in the face.

//another neighbor had a dog named Hitler, who, shockingly, never did bite me (as much as he lived up to that name)
 
2013-04-29 12:52:20 AM

WhoopAssWayne: Aaaaand they're from Maine. Yep, redneck hicks who must be put in their place.


Wonder if they've whittled any hate sticks...
 
2013-04-29 12:53:25 AM
Oh yea... the haters will show up here sooner or later.
 
2013-04-29 12:58:14 AM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


sh*ts and giggles?
 
2013-04-29 01:00:44 AM
Thunder and Bird

Actually I like those names.
 
2013-04-29 01:05:14 AM
"But Staffordshire Terriers can do more damage! RED LINE BREEDS AHDLIGHIDHGFGHIDGH"

All dogs can carry rabies. All dogs can pass on disease and do damage. Vilifying the Nanny Dog just makes you sound like a derp. Playground accidents kill more kids than staffies per year.

/ban playgrounds!
//parents have an American Bull Dog
 
2013-04-29 01:09:14 AM
Fact :ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers who will at some point go insane and maul random people to death.

also:
ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants
ALL Black people are lazy
ALL guns owners will go on shooting sprees
ALL Muslims are terrorists
ALL Irish are drunks
ALL white people are racists
ALL asians are excellent at math

you cant argue with facts
 
2013-04-29 01:16:44 AM

Feral_and_Preposterous: John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?

Night & Train
Mad Dog & 20/20 (20/20 on his papers, but I'd call 'em "40".)
Blue & Nun
Cold & Duck
Rumple Minze & Vomit
Fightin' & Cock
Ou & Zo
Ernest & Julio
Bartles & James
Cisco & Four Loko
Champagne & Purell


I knew someone who had two retrievers named Molson and Golden.
 
2013-04-29 01:20:02 AM

QCB79: Fact :ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers who will at some point go insane and maul random people to death.

also:
ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants
ALL Black people are lazy
ALL guns owners will go on shooting sprees
ALL Muslims are terrorists
ALL Irish are drunks
ALL white people are racists
ALL asians are excellent at math

you cant argue with facts


Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Human Attacks in the United States Between 1979 and 1998

A 2000 report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reviewed a 20-year period to determine the types of dog breeds most responsible for U.S. dog bite fatalities.

During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.

/yep,them damn facts can be a real biatch cant they?
 
2013-04-29 01:30:23 AM

thorthor: Statistics generally don't lie


Usually don't post in these threads because nothing I say will change the derp....but...LOLWHUT?

Fark has a nearly universal cry of "You can't trust statistics!"

Until they support something you agree with.....

Then they don't lie. :D
 
2013-04-29 01:32:26 AM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


"Old"?
 
2013-04-29 01:33:18 AM
As any sensible dog owning judge will say:  Awwwe those itty bitty puppies bit you?  C'mon man!
 
2013-04-29 01:36:04 AM
a LLama once bit my sister...
 
2013-04-29 01:37:14 AM
The Dogs of Peace strike again!!!
 
2013-04-29 01:44:34 AM

Ihaveanevilparrot: thorthor: Statistics generally don't lie

Usually don't post in these threads because nothing I say will change the derp....but...LOLWHUT?

Fark has a nearly universal cry of "You can't trust statistics!"

Until they support something you agree with.....

Then they don't lie. :D


Maybe I'm gullible, but I do tend to believe stats from the CDC rather than buzzfeed or the daily fail, which most farkers tend to rely heavily on.

But you are correct in saying that the general attitude is "I don't believe that reputable organization because.. well because.. I just don't believe it."

Same people who are sure Alex Jones and Glen Beck would never lie to further there own agenda.

Not to belabor the point but what motivation exactely would the CDC have in lying about these stats?

Not trying to start a fight, just wondering.
 
2013-04-29 01:50:34 AM
Every dog, no matter what it is doing, is thinking about the moment that its us or them

Be ready.
 
2013-04-29 01:51:09 AM

thorthor: During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.


Except for an accurate assessment of whether that's a good general determination of dangerous behavior in the breed, you need to compare those figures, if you assume they're correct, to how many of the breed are here in the first place.

How common are fatalities and serious attacks compared to the number of those breeds present in the U.S.? There are not good figures on how many Pit Bulls are present in the U.S.

And even the CDC says their bite statistics based on breed may be inaccurate. These statistics are based on MEDIA coverage, and we all know the media are the most unbias researchers available.

In any case...what is the likelihood of a fatal attack from any breed? It's low. Low enough that general bans based on paranoia are silly.
 
2013-04-29 01:53:53 AM

thorthor: Not to belabor the point but what motivation exactely would the CDC have in lying about these stats?


Read my last post, it explains a lot.

The CDC is not specifically lying, but (and even they admit it) their statistics in this case don't have good reliable data in the first place.

There just aren't any scientifically carried out and unbias studies on this subject. There is so much emotion on both sides, it seeps into everything.
 
2013-04-29 01:58:08 AM

brigid_fitch: Gyrfalcon: great_tigers: Gyrfalcon: Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!

https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.

If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy. It has to do with the immaturity of the animal. That said, I'm sure it was not the first time the dogs had been aggressive, and I'm sure all previous incidents had been laughed off because they were "so cyute". Just like when the neighbor's Chihuahua nibbles your ankles.

It's both the immaturity of the animal and the upbringing.  I adopted a 1-yo Great Dane 4 months ago who'd never been trained or socialized.  She's a 120-lb puppy and her training priority was housebreaking, stopping her from jumping on people, and stopping her from biting.  It's been 4 months and the first 2 priorities were taken care of within a month (although she'll still try to jump if she's excited but a firm command will snap her out of it).  But the biting takes more time, again, especially if she's excited.  Because she'a a puppy and she wasn't trained.

But only an asshole would own a large puppy and not train it out of biting people.  We didn't even introduce her to new people for the first 2 months we had her, just to be on the safe side.


That's a Windjammer fairing on your bike.
 
2013-04-29 02:04:42 AM
That's cool. Lets just agree to dissagree. You go out and buy a couple pittbulls, and a couple rottys and let them play with the neiborhood kids. STATISTICALLY, and I know you hate that word, you've probably got at least a 20-30 % chance of them not biting one or more of the kids. Good luck and godspeed. Ill stick with my Labs and well check back in a year. Let the testing begin.

/btw I never suggested banning any breed
//just said I wouldn't trust em around my kids
 
2013-04-29 02:06:47 AM

JolobinSmokin: I have a half pit half Boston terrier.


Mutts are the best dogs
"Pure Breds" are genetically selected mutants

... gets on soapbox ...
STOP farkING WITH THE GENETICS OF THE ANIMAL THAT LOVES US THE MOST !!!
END "PURE" BREEDING !!!
... gets off soapbox ...

// washes hands, walks away quietly
/ gets attacked by a pair of redneck puppies
 
2013-04-29 02:19:39 AM

another cultural observer: skinink: "If a 12-year old is a child, a 7-month dog is a puppy...."

I suppose you're taking into consideration the age of the dog in dog years? Before I even read your post I looked up how big a 7 month old pitbulll could be, which averages 55 pounds. Yea those dogs are only seven months old but I don't really think I'd wanna fark around with two pitbulls weighing 55 pounds each.

Two 7-pound Chihuahuas would do more damage than those pitties, every single time.  Chihuahua's are more aggressive due to their small stature and can be like piranha.


So what you're saying is, being bitten by a piranha is worse than being bitten by a shark. Guess it could be true. But I'll take on the piranha, thanks.
 
2013-04-29 02:23:26 AM

reubendaley: Every dog, no matter what it is doing, is thinking about the moment that its us or them

Be ready.


lol
 
2013-04-29 02:24:04 AM

Ringshadow: "But Staffordshire Terriers can do more damage! RED LINE BREEDS AHDLIGHIDHGFGHIDGH"

All dogs can carry rabies. All dogs can pass on disease and do damage. Vilifying the Nanny Dog just makes you sound like a derp. Playground accidents kill more kids than staffies per year.



Some breeds are bigger, stronger, more damaging and more difficult to stop when they attack. This is one (but not the only) relevant consideration when determining how dangerous they are. Staffies do have greater damage potential, all else being equal (if you want a valid comparison across breeds you can't cherry-pick). You can repeat that as sarcastically as you like and it will remain true.

FWIW I don't dislike staffies or want them banned. I just think you're being a bit irrational.

/cats can all cause damage and carry disease, so it is madness to distinguish between pet tigers and housecats
//a child canhave an accident on any playground, so it is derpy to ban quicksand from playgrounds
 
2013-04-29 02:30:20 AM

great_tigers: Gyrfalcon: Puppies bite kids! This is somehow news! Film at 11!

https://www.google.com/search?q=7+month+old+pit+bull&client=safari&h l= en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IOJ9UfzkCMTurQGlzoCQCg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA &biw=768&bih=928

Hardly a puppy. Much is in the up bringing of a dog. That said, any dog can be raised to be aggressive, not all dogs can be controlled 100 percent of the time. Training and discipline are required to minimize this as much as possible.


A 7 month old dog is still very much a puppy mentally. I'm guessing the owner in this case made absolutely no effort to train the dogs how to behave around people, and now they are suffering for it. A pup that age generally does not go into "attack mode" as it is likely unaware of it's own capabilities.

Sounds like these dogs will probably be put down due to their own shiathead owners.
 
2013-04-29 02:31:47 AM

Ihaveanevilparrot: thorthor: During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.

Except for an accurate assessment of whether that's a good general determination of dangerous behavior in the breed, you need to compare those figures, if you assume they're correct, to how many of the breed are here in the first place.

How common are fatalities and serious attacks compared to the number of those breeds present in the U.S.? There are not good figures on how many Pit Bulls are present in the U.S.
...


Even counting them the way the media does, it seems highly unlikely that figure would be "half to two-thirds of all dogs in the US."
 
2013-04-29 02:35:06 AM

thorthor: QCB79: Fact :ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers who will at some point go insane and maul random people to death.

also:
ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants
ALL Black people are lazy
ALL guns owners will go on shooting sprees
ALL Muslims are terrorists
ALL Irish are drunks
ALL white people are racists
ALL asians are excellent at math

you cant argue with facts

Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Human Attacks in the United States Between 1979 and 1998

A 2000 report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reviewed a 20-year period to determine the types of dog breeds most responsible for U.S. dog bite fatalities.

During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.

/yep,them damn facts can be a real biatch cant they?


Hey, you know what else killed about 20 people in a year? Lightning strikes! Clearly the answer is to put a lightning rod on all pit bulls. Why? Because, facts!
 
2013-04-29 02:36:01 AM
Of course they have not shown aggression like this before, they are only 7 months old and being raised by jack asses.
 
2013-04-29 02:41:27 AM
I'd call mine E and R
 
2013-04-29 02:43:44 AM
My horse bit me on my side one time while I was standing in front of her. Good golly, that hurt. It wasn't the the type of teeth, but the leverage offered by long jaws.

/still think "frisbie memorial hospital" is funny.
 
2013-04-29 02:48:00 AM

thorthor: Good luck and godspeed. Ill stick with my Labs and well check back in a year. Let the testing begin.


I have a greater swiss mountain dog and two malamute mixes. :\
My GSMD is probably less bite prone than your labs. I suggest you get rid of your dangerous dogs. :D

I don't disagree that some dogs are more prone to attack....there is a reason breeds like collies aren't used for attack/protection dogs. They don't have the same bite drive or inclination to take a pummeling from someone and keep going.

But regardless, even with the breeds used above, individuals have to be carefully picked to find ones that will perform/act in such a manner. The large majority aren't going to attack, and especially not to the degree that causes a fatality. The unfortunate problem, is when someone does pick one of those individual dogs from one of those large breeds, and mistakes them for something like a rough collie, or my greater swiss mountain dog, a breed which has been largely bred to be extremely docile with low bite inclination. And then gives the dog no training and allows it unsupervised around children or strangers. Or someone that picks a dog specifically for those traits, encourages it, and then doesn't contain or supervise it properly.

Yet still, fatalities and serious injuries from pit bulls, rottweilers, and other breeds that may be used for protection/attack animals, are low compared to the number owned.

The paranoia is just that. You are about as likely to walk outside and be hit by lightning.  And both can be largely prevented by not being an idiot, or not hanging around idiots.
The majority of attacks are on the owners property. And guess what...I don't hang around idiots that won't train their large dogs, or worse, encourage them to be aggressive.

Personally I'm not paranoid. The ONLY dog that has ever bitten me was my miniature pinscher, and I have been around, owned, and trained large dogs of all types, including pit bulls.
 
2013-04-29 02:50:25 AM
*sigh*

The "pit bull" IS, and is becoming more of, and aggressive breed. It doesn't have as much to do with being raised and trained improperly (though, that's a huge part of the problem) as it does with the aggression being bred back INTO the animals. This breed is a hallmark breed of mouth breathing rednecks who just want a "bad ass dog", and then they get a mate for their bad ass so they can sell bad ass puppies. Much in the same way aggression can be bred out (domesticated Russian silver fox), it is certainly being unintentionally bred back into this one.
 
2013-04-29 02:52:24 AM
Lebanon, Main = Yankees
Jagermeister (Vicks Formula 44-D) = Yankees
12 y/o girl running through the yard trying to get away from her father/brothers = Yankees
What's this redneck crap?
 
2013-04-29 02:53:07 AM
But anyway. None of this is important.

The fact is...

RENT....is TO damn HIGH.
 
2013-04-29 03:00:56 AM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?


Vod and Ak.
 
2013-04-29 03:31:01 AM

FriarReb98: I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.

\guessing if the owner's dumb enough to name the dogs that, he probably isn't taking care of them either.


Philistine
 
2013-04-29 03:32:08 AM
There is far too much reliance on "I don't believe that, I have been around sweet, docile pitts/rottweilers/whatever" andfar too little statistical, reasoned analysis done.

Simply put, owning a large breed of dog puts your child in more danger than not owning one. It puts the neighborhood kids at risk of danger as well.

There needs to be dispassionate, logical research and advocacy done about the potential harm a large breed can do to a child. People rely on a veil of unfounded safety instead of knowledge. That is no way to conduct yourself if you are a parent.

Some group of doctors put forth the idea a few years ago that no parents should have a gun in the house as it dramatically increases the change of violent harm to the kids simply by being there. The same sort of advocacy ought to be done about these dogs. There are other, safer pets one can have; you have only yourself to blame if your child ends up maimed or worse because you chose a pitbull over a rabbit.
 
2013-04-29 03:55:34 AM

robhidalgo: Sounds like these dogs will probably be put down due to their own shiathead owners.


for the safety of society this would probably be a good first step
second step would be to put down the owners

dogs WANT to be good dogs
It is our fault that dogs go bad

// qualifier, domestic dogs, not coyotes, wolves, dingos etc...
 
2013-04-29 04:47:43 AM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-29 05:18:20 AM
One of my favorite dogs of all time was Jagermeister.  He was a 145 lb Rottweiler who was the biggest baby.  He lived next door and loved my kids.

Of course, his human was cool, too.
 
2013-04-29 05:39:42 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I don't even care about the breed in this case. The fact that a dog-bite victim was taken to Frisbie Memorial Hospital is enough for me.

I hear patients hate the place, however. Staff keeps leaving them up on the roof.


Their bills hit you hard when you're not ready for them
 
2013-04-29 05:40:38 AM
Maybe this breed has too much aggression bred into it and should be regulated better?
 
2013-04-29 05:46:57 AM

KawaiiNot: Maybe this breed has too much aggression bred into it and should be regulated better?


Don't let things like facts get in the way of a good discussion
 
2013-04-29 05:54:34 AM

QCB79: [www.nokilldelaware.org image 600x600]


Put together by the same guy that does the AK-47 chart?
 
2013-04-29 05:58:21 AM
The trooper said the dog's shots were not up to date and the dogs are now quarantined

So, vaccinate them with some lead injections. Problem solved.
 
2013-04-29 06:00:37 AM
Mine were George and Gracie. When we got them, I wanted to name them Sid and Nancy, but the GF won out.
 
2013-04-29 06:02:51 AM

Ex-Texan: Mine were George and Gracie. When we got them, I wanted to name them Sid and Nancy, but the GF won out.


They like you very much, but they are not the hell "your" pitbulls
 
2013-04-29 06:07:23 AM

FriarReb98: I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.


I prefer Kuemmerling. Jägermeister tastes like cough medicne.
 
2013-04-29 06:08:56 AM
I am very anti Pit Bull.

/can't stand his music.
 
2013-04-29 06:45:42 AM
is this the thread where pit lovers swear up and down pits are actually great with kids and never violent by nature?
 
2013-04-29 06:56:36 AM
This kid I went to Jr. high school with had two white rats, he named one Coke and the other Caine. He also had a white German shepard named Kilo.

/CSB
//Last I heard he was doing a dime for pwisd
 
2013-04-29 07:00:45 AM
Odds that those two pitties were unneutered males? I'm guessing around 100 percent.

/Cut their balls off, fix 90 percent of behavioral problems
//Even more true of cats
 
2013-04-29 07:17:39 AM
I have a cutie 6 month old chihuahua mix (we're guessing the mix is Jack Russell, because he the ears and coloring of a Jack). He loves to bite my fingers, my ears, face, etc, when he plays. He's certainly not being vicious at all, but that's just how puppies play. I'll bet the pit puppies in TFA were just playing, and I'll also bet some animal control management idiot will insist that they need to be put down.
 
2013-04-29 07:38:41 AM
My boy George who is a mix. Does that make him kind of evil?
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-29 08:12:47 AM
"If you named them Jager and Meister..."

Not uncommon in Wisconsin.
 
2013-04-29 08:19:29 AM

SVenus: ;Married a woman 17 years ago that had two pit bull/ Rottweiller mix dogs.  Very aggressive dogs.

Smith and Wesson.


Girlfriend or dogs?

Fat_46: Pitties, among other breeds, seem exceptionally susceptible to producing less-than-desirable traits as a result of inbreeding. They seem to have a hidden "switch" in their brains that causes a seemingly docile dog to go temporarily feral, then back to docile in a matter of minutes.

Just my $.02, but I've seen the results, and have a nearly universal distrust of pitties now.


Exactly. Pit bulls can be very affectionate... until they are not. And you can't tell when that will be.
 
2013-04-29 08:32:26 AM

John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?



Don't you mean Wild and Turkey?

/haven't read the thread, someone may have already noted this
 
2013-04-29 08:39:07 AM

Sarah Saturn: When I was a kid, one of my neighbors had a german shepherd named Michelob. One day, my neighbor was out walking him and my mother told her not to let the dog get too close to me because she was afraid he'd bite me. The neighbor assured her that he'd never bite anyone. As soon as she said it, Michelob bit me right in the face.

//another neighbor had a dog named Hitler, who, shockingly, never did bite me (as much as he lived up to that name)


well of course he didn't bite you... he let everyone else do the dirty work... just like the real one.
 
2013-04-29 08:47:56 AM

Ex-Texan: Mine were George and Gracie. When we got them, I wanted to name them Sid and Nancy, but the GF won out.


did you get them close or at the Oceanographic Institute?
 
2013-04-29 08:49:26 AM

Eeteetoo: My boy George who is a mix. Does that make him kind of evil?
[farm9.staticflickr.com image 240x186]


/333 - Half Evil
 
2013-04-29 08:54:59 AM
can't believe I am the first (albeit late):

static.uglyhedgehog.com
/What a pitbull may look like...

Best breed of dog (large) with children is well known for it, and is purchased specifically for that trait (among other reasons):

www.gentlegiantsrescue.com
/The one in the back seat
 
2013-04-29 09:32:36 AM

Gyrfalcon: Fat_46: Years ago pit bulls **were** awesome dogs.  Smart, loyal, and fairly gentle.  However, in the late 80's /early 90's they started to get popular.  Some breeders, desperate for more money, started intensive inbreeding programs, all in the name of revenue.  I really don't know if there are any "pure" blood lines left, as is the story with a number of other breeds.  Pitties, among other breeds, seem exceptionally susceptible to producing less-than-desirable traits as a result of inbreeding.  They seem to have a hidden "switch" in their brains that causes a seemingly docile dog to go temporarily feral, then back to docile in a matter of minutes.

Just my $.02, but I've seen the results, and have a nearly universal distrust of pitties now.

No, I've heard that and I don't buy it. I don't think they are any worse (or any better) than any other breed--although inbreeding and puppy mills are no doubt magnifying bad traits. It's just that pit bulls were created for a very special purpose: To fight in (obviously) dog pits. So they were bred hundreds of years ago when the lines first got started from bull terriers and bulldogs for their bite strength, powerful necks and shoulders, what breeders and trainers call "go" or forward drive, and to tend to ignore instinctive surrender signals that other dogs give when they're beaten. Because after all, dog fighters don't want a dog that will show mercy when the beaten dog whines, cowers or rolls over in submission. They want two dogs that will neither surrender nor acknowledge a surrender.

The result is a dog that is no more likely to attack than a Chihuahua; the difference is when it does, it's harder to pull back (because it's much stronger and heavier), does a lot more damage (because it has bigger jaws with more musculature), is undeterred by the other dog's size, and tends to ignore cowering or cringing as a sign of surrender. There's a dumbass woman up the block who has a very ill-mannered Chihuahua mix:

It lunges, snaps, barks, does all the things that would make it a killer if it was a pit bull. Since it's a rat dog, she can control it with one hand on the leash, and if it was loose, a five-year old child could kick it across the road. But it's just as mean and aggressive as any killer pit bull.

Was this supposed to be a defense of pit bulls?  Seems like a pretty solid argument against them.
 
2013-04-29 09:43:27 AM
Jenna and Talya

/pervert
 
2013-04-29 10:47:53 AM
i.imgur.com
Ban humans
 
2013-04-29 11:01:24 AM

thorthor: QCB79: Fact :ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers who will at some point go insane and maul random people to death.

also:
ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants
ALL Black people are lazy
ALL guns owners will go on shooting sprees
ALL Muslims are terrorists
ALL Irish are drunks
ALL white people are racists
ALL asians are excellent at math

you cant argue with facts

Breeds of Dogs Involved in Fatal Human Attacks in the United States Between 1979 and 1998

A 2000 report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reviewed a 20-year period to determine the types of dog breeds most responsible for U.S. dog bite fatalities.

During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs were involved in 238 human dog bite related fatalities during the past 20 years. Pit bulls and rottweilers were involved in over half of these fatalities and from 1997 to 1998 were involved in 67%.

/yep,them damn facts can be a real biatch cant they?


The problem with these stats is that there are soooo many dogs that can be lumped into the "pit bull" category.  With the exception of the American Pit Bull Terrier (a relatively recent breed), there's no such thing as a true pit bull.  They're mutts that are some mix of Mastiff, Bull Mastiff, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, APBT, Bull Terrier (the same breed as Spuds McKenzie), Dogo Argentino (which looks a lot like a pit bull but is a mix of about 6 different dogs, from Great Dane to Bull Terrier, with some Boxer & Great Pyrenese thrown in) and who knows what other dogs.  If you mix a Lab and an American Pit Bull Terrier, you have a mutt that looks like what people think is a "pit bull" but it's really just a mutt.

So the stats are skewed by the sheer number of dogs that can be described as "pit bulls" vs. obvious German Shepherds or Rotties (which are usually the 2nd & 3rd most common in bite stats).  But the biggest problem w/"pit bulls" is the same as the problem with Dobies, Rotties, & German Shepherds in the 60s, 70s, & 80s--assholes like big, scary dogs.  And said assholes don't train dogs right or treat them badly, so they turn mean.
 
2013-04-29 12:26:52 PM
And it double seals the deal if you pronounce the first one "Jay-Ger".
 
2013-04-29 12:47:15 PM

mbillips: Odds that those two pitties were unneutered males? I'm guessing around 100 percent.

/Cut their balls off, fix 90 percent of behavioral problems
//Even more true of cats


THIS. Also they were at the age when they probably just starting to feel their oats.
 
2013-04-29 01:24:30 PM

brigid_fitch: The problem with these stats is that there are soooo many dogs that can be lumped into the "pit bull" category. With the exception of the American Pit Bull Terrier (a relatively recent breed), there's no such thing as a true pit bull. They're mutts that are some mix of Mastiff, Bull Mastiff, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, APBT, Bull Terrier (the same breed as Spuds McKenzie), Dogo Argentino (which looks a lot like a pit bull but is a mix of about 6 different dogs, from Great Dane to Bull Terrier, with some Boxer & Great Pyrenese thrown in) and who knows what other dogs. If you mix a Lab and an American Pit Bull Terrier, you have a mutt that looks like what people think is a "pit bull" but it's really just a mutt.

So the stats are skewed by the sheer number of dogs that can be described as "pit bulls" vs. obvious German Shepherds or Rotties (which are usually the 2nd & 3rd most common in bite stats). But the biggest problem w/"pit bulls" is the same as the problem with Dobies, Rotties, & German Shepherds in the 60s, 70s, & 80s--assholes like big, scary dogs. And said assholes don't train dogs right or treat them badly, so they turn mean.


Where there's smoke...

End result is the Bichon Frise isn't going to maul as many kids as a Pit Bull of any variety
 
2013-04-29 01:56:07 PM
What's next? Educated people naming their dogs Cotes and d'Or?
 
2013-04-29 03:09:56 PM
Little known fact: Pitbulls were specially bred in secret laboratories by mad scientists to bring about the extinction of the human race.

True story.


/A lot of you people are quite stupid.
/But thats ok, par for the course
 
2013-04-29 03:24:52 PM
One of my favorite dogs of all time was Jagermeister.  He was a 145 lb Rottweiler who was the biggest baby.  He lived next door and loved my kids.

awww, csb
 
2013-04-29 04:47:12 PM

FriarReb98: I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.

\guessing if the owner's dumb enough to name the dogs that, he probably isn't taking care of them either.


Shots were not up to date (and they're pups, so that probably means no shots at all) so yeah.
 
2013-04-29 05:30:54 PM
Michael Vick would be pleased.
 
2013-04-29 06:17:56 PM

ArcadianRefugee: John Buck 41: serial_crusher: I'd name mine Woodford and Reserve.

Jack and Daniel?
Bud and Wiser?
Jim and Beam?
Evan and William?
George and Dickel?
Old and Turkey?

"Old"?


Jesus. Mea Culpa. Was drinking Evan Williams at the time of posting.


As I am now.


Update on the story. Dogs are still under quarantine; havn't been put down. Yet. Girl out of hospital, no charges have been filed. Yet.



Link
 
2013-04-29 06:27:31 PM

orclover: [i.imgur.com image 512x340]
Ban humans


That's beautiful. Thank you.

Signed, Subby.

The headline was an indictment of the asshole owner, not the breed.
 
2013-04-29 06:34:06 PM

Albert911emt: I have a cutie 6 month old chihuahua mix (we're guessing the mix is Jack Russell, because he the ears and coloring of a Jack). He loves to bite my fingers, my ears, face, etc, when he plays. He's certainly not being vicious at all, but that's just how puppies play. I'll bet the pit puppies in TFA were just playing, and I'll also bet some animal control management idiot will insist that they need to be put down.


She was hospitalized. If that's "just playing", then it's an argument against pits, not for them.
 
2013-04-29 07:01:49 PM

FriarReb98: I'm gonna have to go ahead and say I hate Jagermeister.

\guessing if the owner's dumb enough to name the dogs that, he probably isn't taking care of them either.


Given that their shots weren't up to date, I'm going to have to upgrade that 'probably' to 'certainly'.

stiletto_the_wise: In before the Pit Bull Apologists who will flood in to tell us all how THEIR little purebred death dog would NEVER hurt a fly, and that the one in the article is a lone bad apple, not representative of the entire breed.


As my family loves Boston Terriers, a dog breed often mistaken for pit bulls(understandable) and is sometimes included in 'pit bull' bans, I'm going to chime in here:
There are essentially two breeds of 'pit bull' today.  You have the ones from responsible breeders, that are not normally human aggressive.  Then you have a substantial number(can't really say if they outnumber the responsibly bred ones or not) of people breeding and buying pit bulls because they've gotten the same reputation of 'tough/cool/aggressive' as rottweilers had a while back.  They're also the idiots stupid enough to not properly socialize their dogs, actually train them to be more aggressive, etc...

The problem is that if you ban 'pit bulls' or even just heavily regulate them that the latter type of people will simply move to a new breed.  Weimaraners, perhaps.
Boston:upload.wikimedia.orgPit Bull:upload.wikimedia.org

Trick:  Bostons run 25 pounds max(otherwise they don't meet breed standards), American Staffordshires run up to 60.  Don't know about Pit Bulls, but the jaws on a Boston are strong enough to spin the dog in a circle while holding a tug toy.
 
2013-04-29 07:36:25 PM
I always heard both sides of the argument - pits are dangerous and kill, pits are really sweet and loyal and the bad ones were raised poorly.  I like dogs in general (I'm not one to gush over them, but I have no problem with more mellow, relaxed dogs), I'm comfortable around them, I have never been bitten by one...

Until a year and a half ago when I was visiting a friend's place.  His brother's dog (a pit) was there along with his own dog (a mutt, with terrier and beagle in the mix I think).  Had no problems with either dog throughout the stay, both ambled around, stopped for some pats on the head, and ambled off.  In helping him clear the table, I bring an armful of empty soda cans into the house, where his brother's dog walks up, jumps in the air and clamps down on my forearm.  I did nothing aggressive, simply walked in the door with 4 or 5 soda cans.

I can still see the scar she left on the underside of my arm, the mark on top has faded down significantly.  I love my friends, but I thought they handled it very badly.  It took 2 more bites (FAMILY members!) for them to finally demand that the brother removed the dog from the house.

I volunteer at an animal shelter, and there are several pit/pit mixes there.  They are all very nice (some more barky than others), but I would never adopt any of them.  Friend's dog showed NO signs of being aggressive either.

People can argue about how great pits are and get a bad rap, but in my almost 40 years on this planet, I don't need another experience to tell me pits are bad news.
 
2013-04-29 07:51:22 PM
KaiC:

People can argue about how great pits are and get a bad rap, but in my almost 40 years on this planet, I don't need another experience to tell me pits are bad news.

I got robbed by a black guy.


Just sayin'.
 
2013-04-29 08:19:33 PM

FarkinHostile: KaiC:

People can argue about how great pits are and get a bad rap, but in my almost 40 years on this planet, I don't need another experience to tell me pits are bad news.

I got robbed by a black guy.


Just sayin'.


The negative stories about pits being seemingly chill and then biting someone without warning was backed up when one did that exact thing to me.  So I should just disregard all those stories and my experience?  I'm dumb, but not THAT dumb.

Just sayin'.
 
2013-04-29 08:34:51 PM

KaiC: FarkinHostile: KaiC:

People can argue about how great pits are and get a bad rap, but in my almost 40 years on this planet, I don't need another experience to tell me pits are bad news.

I got robbed by a black guy.


Just sayin'.

The negative stories about pits being seemingly chill and then biting someone without warning was backed up when one did that exact thing to me.  So I should just disregard all those stories and my experience?  I'm dumb, but not THAT dumb.

Just sayin'.


And all the stories about blacks being criminals was backed when I was robbed by one. Should I not cross the street when one is on the same side as me? I'm not that dumb, either.

Sounds farked up when I put it that way, doesn't it? If you honestly believe that dog "breeds" have such traits, then why not human "breeds"? It's just biology, right? Or perhaps media fear-mongering and your admittedly bad personal experience have caused you to think in a bad way, but you don't HAVE TO think like that. Frankly, it's just not true.

I run into pitbull prejudice on occasion. When they tell me "Oh, he is SO good....for a pitbull." I understand why black people get offended at "He speaks SO well...."
 
2013-04-29 09:00:58 PM

bhcompy: brigid_fitch: The problem with these stats is that there are soooo many dogs that can be lumped into the "pit bull" category. With the exception of the American Pit Bull Terrier (a relatively recent breed), there's no such thing as a true pit bull. They're mutts that are some mix of Mastiff, Bull Mastiff, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, APBT, Bull Terrier (the same breed as Spuds McKenzie), Dogo Argentino (which looks a lot like a pit bull but is a mix of about 6 different dogs, from Great Dane to Bull Terrier, with some Boxer & Great Pyrenese thrown in) and who knows what other dogs. If you mix a Lab and an American Pit Bull Terrier, you have a mutt that looks like what people think is a "pit bull" but it's really just a mutt.

So the stats are skewed by the sheer number of dogs that can be described as "pit bulls" vs. obvious German Shepherds or Rotties (which are usually the 2nd & 3rd most common in bite stats). But the biggest problem w/"pit bulls" is the same as the problem with Dobies, Rotties, & German Shepherds in the 60s, 70s, & 80s--assholes like big, scary dogs. And said assholes don't train dogs right or treat them badly, so they turn mean.

Where there's smoke...

End result is the Bichon Frise isn't going to maul as many kids as a Pit Bull of any variety


You missed the whole point.  The stats are skewed because so many dogs are (wrongly) considered "pitbull-types".  The ratio's all off.  When you've got 5,000* mutts that people call "pit bulls" and 400* German Shepherds, there are going to be more "pit bulls" in the bite statistics.

And, no, Bichons aren't going to go mauling 12-yo's because they're small dogs that a 12-yo can kick and hurt right back.  But they could be just as nasty as the worst pitbull, German Shepherd, or Lab that hasn't been raised properly--just won't do as much damage simply because of their size.  Still doesn't mean a pitbull is inherently dangerous.

*Numbers are completely hypothetical.
 
2013-04-29 09:06:51 PM

KaiC: In helping him clear the table, I bring an armful of empty soda cans into the house, where his brother's dog walks up, jumps in the air and clamps down on my forearm.  I did nothing aggressive, simply walked in the door with 4 or 5 soda cans.


Maybe it was the cans that set the dog off.  My Great Dane went absolutely berserk the first time she saw mylar balloons.  Husband brought them home from the office--his co-workers had bought him some for his birthday.  She just went out-of-her-mind insane with fear, snarling and growling, hackles all raised.  I swear she would have attacked my husband had I not grabbed her and he ran back outside w/the balloons.  The rest of the time, she's a big, dumb, goofy puppy.  But show her mylar balloons and she goes crazy.
 
2013-04-29 11:06:47 PM

brigid_fitch: KaiC: In helping him clear the table, I bring an armful of empty soda cans into the house, where his brother's dog walks up, jumps in the air and clamps down on my forearm.  I did nothing aggressive, simply walked in the door with 4 or 5 soda cans.

Maybe it was the cans that set the dog off.  My Great Dane went absolutely berserk the first time she saw mylar balloons.  Husband brought them home from the office--his co-workers had bought him some for his birthday.  She just went out-of-her-mind insane with fear, snarling and growling, hackles all raised.  I swear she would have attacked my husband had I not grabbed her and he ran back outside w/the balloons.  The rest of the time, she's a big, dumb, goofy puppy.  But show her mylar balloons and she goes crazy.


I had a half Collie/German Shepherd named Harley Tucker.

farm6.staticflickr.com
85 pounds of sweetness. One time (not at band camp) the rear window was down 6 inches and an idiot gas pump jockey thought it would be fun to reach in and pet him. Bad idea. No bite, thankfully, but it could've ended badly.

Always ask the owner first. ALWAYS.
 
2013-04-30 08:14:07 AM
FarkinHostile:

Sounds farked up when I put it that way, doesn't it? If you honestly believe that dog "breeds" have such traits, then why not human "breeds"? It's just biology, right? Or perhaps media fear-mongering and your admittedly bad personal experience have caused you to think in a bad way, but you don't HAVE TO think like that. Frankly, it's just not true.

Do I believe that every single pitbull is a timebomb waiting to happen?  No.  But when I hear stories like this over and over, and owners wailing about how "they never did anything like this before!  S/he was always so sweet and gentle!" just before they went all wonky and tore someone's face off, then I walk into someone's house (having walked in and out several times without a problem with a soda I was drinking in my hand) and get bitten hard enough to leave scars that are still there...  well excuse the hell out of me for saying "no pits near me TYVM."  It's the same as knowing I should probably not hang around the bad part of town at 2am with a spaghetti strap purse - are all people who live and work in the bad part of town going to rob me?  No, but let me use my common sense and sense of self-preservation for a minute.

As for the follow up comment re: the mylar balloons - sounds like you had enough warning to be able to grab the dog and allow hubby to exit the house, doggy not such a big fan of mylar balloons.  Absolutely no warning with me, she approached me non-aggressively and when she jumped up I actually thought she was just being playful until she chomped down and I felt the pain in my arm.  It might have been the cans, but the household has a second fridge in the garage stocked full of beer and soda for gatherings, presumably family and friends have had many aluminum cans around before I visited.  What was I supposed to do?

If this makes me a bad person, so be it.  BAD HUMAN, NO COOKIE!
 
2013-04-30 10:38:41 AM

KaiC: If this makes me a bad person, so be it. BAD HUMAN, NO COOKIE!



It doesn't make you a bad person, no more than a person who is afraid of black people because they got robbed by one is.

It's understandable. Sad, but understandable.
 
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