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(Time)   Businesses are learning that by downsizing the workforce they are, in effect, destroying their bottom line   (business.time.com) divider line 162
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2013-04-28 10:14:09 PM  

NFA: Once the management of any company begins to believe it's most valuable asset is anything but it's workforce, they've began walking the path to bankruptcy.


One more time without dozing off while writing....

Once the management of any company begins to believe their most valuable asset is anything but a happy productive workforce, they've begun walking the path to bankruptcy.
 
2013-04-28 10:14:35 PM  

aimtastic: sendtodave: aimtastic: When I waited tables at Red Lobster in the mid-90s, we had no bussers and running four tables at a time was the norm. The only people who couldn't provide good service to four tables at a time were noobs.


That's the spirit!  And you sure didn't want to look like a noob, I bet!  Of course not!

You worked hard to show the bosses that you are a hard worker, not for silly things like "better pay" or "a better working environment."  Good for you, and good for your bosses!

See?  Inspiring competition among the help keeps labor costs down!

No, I worked harder because it did garner me better pay in the form of tips. Every server in America worth their salt likely regards themselves more as an independent contractor than an employee of the restaurant in which they work. As long as the restaurant draws customers, every server is the master of their own destiny once those customers are seated at their tables.


Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself so that you keep working cheaply is fine by me!

You are the master!  I'm just the little ole capitalist.  I am in awe.  Really, I work for you!  Or some such bullshiat, Iunno, I'm late for golf.  Hey, could you carry my bag to my car?  The BMW right outside, yeah.  There's a nice tip in it for you!
 
2013-04-28 10:17:54 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: When can we start executing "Consultants" and idiot Managers who decide that employees are Cost Centers to be eliminated?  Preferably with fire.  We should kill them with fire.

"Pish posh!  Busboys!  They don't bring in money!  All they do is COST money!  Get rid of the lot!"


I don't understand what you are trying to say.  Labor isn't a cost?  Or that companies shouldn't work to minimize or eliminate costs?

Where did you get your MBA?
 
2013-04-28 10:21:46 PM  

starlost: another funny thing about waiters and workers in general. some just want to make X dollars a week. when i was a waiter i didn't give a crap if someone tipped me a penny. i didn't care i was making 2/3 as much as the waiters busting their asses. i was single without  kids or debt and i had cheap hobbies and interests so i had more money in my pocket the end of the week. its not how much you make but how little you spend.


Exactly!  I've been saying for years that poor people spend too much.

Why is it every time I, a rich capitalist, make this same argument, all I hear is "class warfare this" and "jump you farker that?"
 
2013-04-28 10:33:39 PM  

sendtodave: Thingster: Every time I see an article about this, it makes my head hurt and I wind up screaming ,"5 dollar day!," at the computer.

In 1908 Ford figured this out.  Pay people a good wage, they get pride of ownership, you get a loyal, high quality workforce, and *gasp* when your workers make enough to afford the product they produce/sell they actually buy said products and services, which increases the customer base.  Higher quality products and services coupled with an expanded consumer base leads to a better bottom line.

Holy shiat people, this isn't hard.

As if you still need to actually make products to make money.  This ain't 1913, pal.  Times change.  If your business actually needs real products for real customers, you're in the wrong business.

Labor was only marginally useful in making money back then.  Now, it is pretty much unnecessary, 'cept for Red Lobster.


Absolutely. Check the lists of richest people. I believe moving-money-around is the only profitable business left. Making things costs too much.
 
2013-04-28 10:42:27 PM  
gingerjet:
Try hiring an engineer with actual experience sometime.  The only people you are going to get are foreign workers.  And immigration is good for the economy.  Especially since we aren't kicking out the kids like we should.

Three reasons:
1. As a recent college grad (2012) the "kids" are looking at the coursework they must take to graduate and possibly becoming your engineer, and weighing them against the probability of actually becoming employed as an engineer in this country. Those scales do not tip in favor of the student/potential engineer, so they do not choose those degrees. Even those who do obtain employment are often paid so little that it would take several lifetimes to pay off the student loan debt they have accumulated. Remember, taking the hard courses leaves less time to "work your way" through school, and thus other sources of funding must be found to continue your studies.

2. To get the "experience" you speak of, one must, you know, actually get a job first. Hiring an H1B makes employers happy because they can pay the poor schlubs less, and even figuring in the cost of training them still puts the employer ahead. Hiring someone from the local University... not so much. Short term thinking.

3. If by "kicking the kids out" you mean lower birthrates, that could be... but what causes those lower birthrates? Say it with me now "FINANCIAL INSTABILITY". In your early 20s, the time when most of us who went to college graduate, get that first job, and start a family... now those years are plagued by unemployment and underemployment, student loan debt and the catch-22 of "no experience = no job".
If I already didn't have my life in order before I went back to school there is no farking way I would even THINK about having kids at this time.
 
2013-04-28 10:46:23 PM  

gingerjet: Try hiring an engineer with actual experience sometime.  The only people you are going to get are foreign workers.  And immigration is good for the economy.  Especially since we aren't kicking out the kids like we should.

/on average my H-1B workers are paid much more than their American counterparts.  They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude


That's because they're tied to an employer in ways no US citizen ever could be and that they depend on fraud to pave the way.  Killing that (and other like programs) would be a net positive since those guest workers do not assimilate or become US citizens.
 
2013-04-28 11:15:41 PM  
I always love the old line of we are in a recession therefore we must raise prices to keep making money.  Because raising prices when people obviously have less to spend is a great business plan.
 
2013-04-28 11:17:18 PM  

baufan2005: I always love the old line of we are in a recession therefore we must raise prices to keep making money.  Because raising prices when people obviously have less to spend is a great business plan.


So raise taxes instead.  Let's see how well that works out.
 
2013-04-28 11:20:05 PM  

gingerjet: They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude


The Americans with advanced degrees don't want you for a boss, and the H1B's have no choice but to kiss your ass.

The U.S. has a surplus of skilled workers, so anything you say beyond "I don't want to pay for them." is a lie.
 
2013-04-28 11:26:01 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: baufan2005: I always love the old line of we are in a recession therefore we must raise prices to keep making money.  Because raising prices when people obviously have less to spend is a great business plan.

So raise taxes instead.  Let's see how well that works out.


Both ideas work in a plutonomy.  Rich guys are still rich, they're all that matter.

Didn't you guys read the Citigroup memos?

"We project that the plutonomies (the U.S., UK, and Canada) will likely see even more income inequality, disproportionately feeding off a further rise in the profit share in their economies, capitalist-friendly governments, more technology-driven productivity, and globalization... Since we think the plutonomy is here, is going to get stronger... It is a good time to switch out of stocks that sell to the masses and back to the plutonomy basket. "
 
2013-04-28 11:30:02 PM  

gingerjet: Try hiring an engineer with actual experience sometime. The only people you are going to get are foreign workers. And immigration is good for the economy. Especially since we aren't kicking out the kids like we should.

/on average my H-1B workers are paid much more than their American counterparts. They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude


This. I can't remember the last time an actual American applied to be a Software Engineer at my company. I'd love to hire one just for the sake of diversity. They simply do not exist anymore (or are all working at Google and Apple...)
 
2013-04-28 11:33:53 PM  
BUT... BUT... The Wharton boys say that the key to delighting the shareholders is to get good numbers for the quarter!  If we fire everyone, liquidate all our assets, stop production and sell off all the inventory, all we'll have is profit?!  AMIRITE?  WHAT could go wrong?
 
2013-04-28 11:36:09 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Fire the experienced help, hire schlubs/Inidans/Messicans at 1/3 the cost.  Bottom line is pretty for 1 quarter. Get bonus, Quit. Bazinga!

Hate management.  No better than leeches in the IT worlld.


The secret to success!  Burn the place down, hand the insurance payout to the shareholders and RUN!
 
2013-04-28 11:36:54 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Red Lobster eliminated  busboys, demoted servers, and increased tables/server from 3 to 4.   Now they've learned their lesson and reduced tables/server back to 3.

Whar busboys and promotions?


Dunno about the busboys, but there was once a Red Lobster exec who came up with the "All You Can Eat Snow Crab Legs" promotion a few years back, which kicked in just as there was a downturn in the snow crab harvest that year and prices had skyrocketed.

I don't think they ever found that exec's body after that.
 
2013-04-28 11:41:22 PM  

RabidJade: Thingster: In 1908 Ford figured this out.  Pay people a good wage, they get pride of ownership, you get a loyal, high quality workforce, and *gasp* when your workers make enough to afford the product they produce/sell they actually buy said products and services, which increases the customer base.  Higher quality products and services coupled with an expanded consumer base leads to a better bottom line.


What Henry Ford did in that generation is almost impossible with the current work force. Now days before people get hired at a company they think they are getting screwed and enter the company work force thinking they deserve more for just being there. The mentality builds until they are truly dissatisfied and then they started the process over at another job. I've seen it at past jobs and see it at the current one. The issue is compounded by recent college grads who think they will make CEO of a Fortune500 company 5 years out of school with only a 4 year management degree.

We've produced a work force in this country who thinks they deserve more than what they have now and blame whoever they are working for at that moment regardless of how nice they have it.


Here's a little clue to the truth - the two "sides" of this argument are not mutually exclusive, and both can be, and are, true.
 
2013-04-28 11:41:35 PM  

sendtodave: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: When can we start executing "Consultants" and idiot Managers who decide that employees are Cost Centers to be eliminated?  Preferably with fire.  We should kill them with fire.

"Pish posh!  Busboys!  They don't bring in money!  All they do is COST money!  Get rid of the lot!"

I don't understand what you are trying to say.  Labor isn't a cost?  Or that companies shouldn't work to minimize or eliminate costs?

Where did you get your MBA?


Hey, get rid of them all.  Shut it all down.  Eliminate ALL your costs.  The real business of any business is making money, right?  So stop doing what you do, license the brand and let someone else do all the work for as cheap as possible.  Just slap brand stickers on someone else's poorly made shiat.  That's efficiency!
 
2013-04-28 11:42:51 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: gingerjet: They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude

The Americans with advanced degrees don't want you for a boss, and the H1B's have no choice but to kiss your ass.

The U.S. has a surplus of skilled workers, so anything you say beyond "I don't want to pay for them." is a lie.


What is considered a skilled worker these days?  Been looking for "skilled" workers for 4 years now and it seems that they don't exist.  Was/Am even willing to train, but i guess people don't see the skill in the work that i do.
 
2013-04-28 11:48:09 PM  

Fecacacophany: Hey, get rid of them all.  Shut it all down.  Eliminate ALL your costs.  The real business of any business is making money, right?  So stop doing what you do, license the brand and let someone else do all the work for as cheap as possible.  Just slap brand stickers on someone else's poorly made shiat.  That's efficiency!


ts2.mm.bing.net !
 
2013-04-28 11:49:24 PM  

sendtodave: Fecacacophany: Hey, get rid of them all.  Shut it all down.  Eliminate ALL your costs.  The real business of any business is making money, right?  So stop doing what you do, license the brand and let someone else do all the work for as cheap as possible.  Just slap brand stickers on someone else's poorly made shiat.  That's efficiency!

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OH.  Herrrrro!
 
2013-04-28 11:49:38 PM  

soia: Sergeant Grumbles: gingerjet: They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude

The Americans with advanced degrees don't want you for a boss, and the H1B's have no choice but to kiss your ass.

The U.S. has a surplus of skilled workers, so anything you say beyond "I don't want to pay for them." is a lie.

What is considered a skilled worker these days?  Been looking for "skilled" workers for 4 years now and it seems that they don't exist.  Was/Am even willing to train, but i guess people don't see the skill in the work that i do.


What is it that you do?
 
2013-04-28 11:50:41 PM  

aimtastic: No, I worked harder because it did garner me better pay in the form of tips. Every server in America worth their salt likely regards themselves more as an independent contractor than an employee of the restaurant in which they work. As long as the restaurant draws customers, every server is the master of their own destiny once those customers are seated at their tables.


Every restaurant I've ever been to, the servers don't pocket the tips. All tips are pooled and at the end of the shift distributed equally among servers, bussers, and kitchen staff. So your high quality service doesn't benefit you, it benefits the whole restaurant. Just like communism.
 
2013-04-28 11:54:11 PM  

Fecacacophany: sendtodave: Fecacacophany: Hey, get rid of them all.  Shut it all down.  Eliminate ALL your costs.  The real business of any business is making money, right?  So stop doing what you do, license the brand and let someone else do all the work for as cheap as possible.  Just slap brand stickers on someone else's poorly made shiat.  That's efficiency!

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OH.  Herrrrro!


Sanrio is the perfect company.
 
2013-04-28 11:55:40 PM  
Shouldn't someone start chanting "Burn, baby, burn!!" ??
 
2013-04-28 11:55:58 PM  

Summoner101: Businesses are learning?

I highly doubt that.


Rarely is the question asked: is our businesses learning?

i651.photobucket.com
Also, can you put food on your businesses? CAN YOU?!

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-28 11:57:34 PM  
I wonder how many Sigma Six black belt it took to figure this out.
 
2013-04-29 12:00:34 AM  

minoridiot: I wonder how many Sigma Six black belt it took to figure this out.


A pareto efficient number of them.
 
2013-04-29 12:00:40 AM  

sendtodave: Fecacacophany: sendtodave: Fecacacophany: Hey, get rid of them all.  Shut it all down.  Eliminate ALL your costs.  The real business of any business is making money, right?  So stop doing what you do, license the brand and let someone else do all the work for as cheap as possible.  Just slap brand stickers on someone else's poorly made shiat.  That's efficiency!

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 174x166] !

OH.  Herrrrro!

Sanrio is the perfect company.


I agree.  They are an ideal model.  A brand that has no measurable value beyond that assigned by the demands of a fickle consumer base, which they can easily manipulate.  If only EVERY company could be Sanrio.  Then none of us would have to work because nobody would actually do any work, because everyone would just subcon the subcon's subcons.  The snake would eat itself.
 
2013-04-29 12:02:57 AM  

sendtodave: minoridiot: I wonder how many Sigma Six black belt it took to figure this out.

A pareto efficient number of them.


They were all properly labeled and hanging off their assigned hooks.
 
2013-04-29 12:03:24 AM  

minoridiot: I wonder how many Sigma Six black belt it took to figure this out.


This is pretty much the only thing our country seems to produce anymore...a bunch of forms to prove we can comply with the latest corporate big thing that everybody is doing. ISO, Six Sigma, LEED, whatever that may be.

What I need to do is come up with that next big thing so I can fleece large corporations and make them happy for the privilege. They might even add it to the signage and promotional materials they give to prospective customers, giving me free advertising.
 
2013-04-29 12:05:40 AM  

buzzcut73: minoridiot: I wonder how many Sigma Six black belt it took to figure this out.

This is pretty much the only thing our country seems to produce anymore...a bunch of forms to prove we can comply with the latest corporate big thing that everybody is doing. ISO, Six Sigma, LEED, whatever that may be.

What I need to do is come up with that next big thing so I can fleece large corporations and make them happy for the privilege. They might even add it to the signage and promotional materials they give to prospective customers, giving me free advertising.


The next big thing will be to take the Six Sigma consultants and apply Six Sigma to them.  Stick a label on the tool and then hang the tool off the appropriate hook.  For example: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2012/05/nine-bodies-found-hanging-off-n u evo.html
 
2013-04-29 12:06:32 AM  

gingerjet: Fark Me To Tears: * - It is illegal to hire an H-1B for the purpose of displacing an American worker. Even if you can justify that the H-1B is truly an augmentation and not a displacement, it is also illegal to pay that H-1B a wage that is less than the prevailing wage of his American-worker counterparts. And yet, H-1Bs are routinely brought into this country to displace American workers and they are typically paid much less than those American workers were paid.

Try hiring an engineer with actual experience sometime.  The only people you are going to get are foreign workers.  And immigration is good for the economy.  Especially since we aren't kicking out the kids like we should.

/on average my H-1B workers are paid much more than their American counterparts.  They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude




So you can hire Americans cheaper, but insist on hiring H1-Bs for more money??

Really?
 
2013-04-29 12:12:12 AM  

HempHead: gingerjet: Fark Me To Tears: * - It is illegal to hire an H-1B for the purpose of displacing an American worker. Even if you can justify that the H-1B is truly an augmentation and not a displacement, it is also illegal to pay that H-1B a wage that is less than the prevailing wage of his American-worker counterparts. And yet, H-1Bs are routinely brought into this country to displace American workers and they are typically paid much less than those American workers were paid.

Try hiring an engineer with actual experience sometime.  The only people you are going to get are foreign workers.  And immigration is good for the economy.  Especially since we aren't kicking out the kids like we should.

/on average my H-1B workers are paid much more than their American counterparts.  They usually come to the table with advanced degrees and less shiatty attitude

So you can hire Americans cheaper, but insist on hiring H1-Bs for more money??

Really?


Seems legit.
 
2013-04-29 12:21:55 AM  

Ishkur: aimtastic: No, I worked harder because it did garner me better pay in the form of tips. Every server in America worth their salt likely regards themselves more as an independent contractor than an employee of the restaurant in which they work. As long as the restaurant draws customers, every server is the master of their own destiny once those customers are seated at their tables.

Every restaurant I've ever been to, the servers don't pocket the tips. All tips are pooled and at the end of the shift distributed equally among servers, bussers, and kitchen staff. So your high quality service doesn't benefit you, it benefits the whole restaurant. Just like communism.


i worked as a busboy and server in the late 90's, and there was no pool.  plus, depending on how much you did helped on the cut you got (servers would take a cut of their tips and give them to the bus boys). maybe that's changed, or it's a regional thing.  i know it's not likely, but i wish everyone had to work on commission.
 
2013-04-29 12:35:48 AM  
My company was bought by Time Warner Cable. My job used to be a Field Engineer. I carried tools and installed equipment, but I also built and designed the network too. I'm a CCNA (expired) with over 10 years networking experience.

The new positions for my future co-workers were recently released. "Familiarity with Internet Explorer" is a required 'skill'.

On Friday I got an email about whoever does the most installs in May can be entered in a drawing to win an iPad Mini. 
The job search begins tomorrow.
 
2013-04-29 12:47:46 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Red Lobster eliminated busboys


i.imgur.com

Frowns on these shenanigans.
 
2013-04-29 12:50:55 AM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Red Lobster spokesperson told the Orlando Sentinel that while some customers liked the four-table policy, once it was introduced around the country, "far more folks told us that in some instances, it really turned out to be a barrier to providing that great guest experience."

I would love to speak to the mythical customers who said waitresses spending even less time taking care of their dining needs was an improvement.

What make-believe PR nonsense.

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Came here to poke fun at that steaming pile.

Either what you said^^, or the customers were asked "did you enjoy your dining experience?" and if they answered "yes" then it magically became "they like our new policies!!"

I'm not much of a diner-outer myself. Would you even NOTICE company policy of tables per server?
 
2013-04-29 12:54:55 AM  

bionicjoe: My company was bought by Time Warner Cable. My job used to be a Field Engineer. I carried tools and installed equipment, but I also built and designed the network too. I'm a CCNA (expired) with over 10 years networking experience.

The new positions for my future co-workers were recently released. "Familiarity with Internet Explorer" is a required 'skill'.

On Friday I got an email about whoever does the most installs in May can be entered in a drawing to win an iPad Mini. 
The job search begins tomorrow.


You sound overqualified.  Which, of course, means expensive.
 
2013-04-29 01:00:24 AM  

sirrerun: BarkingUnicorn: Red Lobster eliminated busboys

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Frowns on these shenanigans.

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I remember Eddie Murphy referring to "bus boys" in one of his acts. "They'll fark anything that moves" or something like that.

It was an audio casette and we don't have "bus boys" in Australia and I was only a youngster. Took me a while to figure out it was probably the name of the opening act.
 
2013-04-29 01:12:03 AM  

aimtastic: every server is the master of their own destiny once those customers are seated at their tables.


Except, you know, for the quality of the food.
 
2013-04-29 01:12:16 AM  
'Wages are stagnant, jobs are less secure, work is more intense - it's a much tougher world,' said Paul Osterman, co-director of the MIT Sloan Institute for Work and Employment Research. 'Employers have become much more aggressive about restructuring work in ways that push for higher levels of productivity.'

Yep, this kind of sounds like the company for whom I toil. Last year was, by all accounts, a really good one. Lots of new customers added and nice big profits earned. But over the last month or so senior management has made it clear they're not particularly happy with us. We had a really cheery morning meeting in which our entire department was treated to a lecture on work habits. It began with a manager saying, "I want to talk to you today about three million minutes". Apparently there was rampant tardiness and inefficiency in running meetings. This was news to everybody in my group. It's rare to see any of my co-workers showing up late or screwing around. It's pretty much a stay at your desk kind of place. Not because somebody is telling you to but because it's always really busy.

It's been so troubling to watch. All through 2012 and into the early part of this year we were praised for our productivity and told our customer service scores (measured in a variety of ways) were incredibly good. Then, suddenly, we find ourselves being told we're stealing minutes and they're going to start monitoring every keystroke a lot more closely.

I'm sure there are always some employees floating around a large company who tend to slack off but it's pretty clear it wasn't a huge problem. Employees now generally assume the company just doesn't want to do any additional hiring to cover the increased workload that comes with adding a whole mess of new customers. So just increase the workload on the current crop.

This is to be expected in today's workplace. What's troubling is the way these things are done. It's not "We don't feel like hiring anymore people" it's "You are all a bunch of leeches and you've been stealing from us!" At least I still like the people I see everyday. It's just that the mood has changed.
 
2013-04-29 01:21:12 AM  
It's like a farmer slaughtering all his livestock or felling trees to sell for firewood.  It's devastating longterm, but the obsession with short term gain has led us  down this road.
 
2013-04-29 01:24:02 AM  

DePaul: It's not "We don't feel like hiring anymore people" it's "You are all a bunch of leeches and you've been stealing from us!"


But isn't it refreshing to truthfully know how much you are really valued?

And are you, personally, making the company millions through investment, or sales, or cooking the books,  or restructuring?  No?

Then you are suckling off the company teat.  GBTW!
 
2013-04-29 01:26:54 AM  

bromah: It's like a farmer slaughtering all his livestock or felling trees to sell for firewood.  It's devastating longterm, but the obsession with short term gain has led us  down this road.


Only devastating to the livestock, or the trees.  Which are the farmer's capital.  Just like workers are the bosses capital.

The farmer gets rich and cashes out.
 
2013-04-29 01:32:56 AM  
The fastest way to run a good business? Shoot anyone with an MBA who tries to work for you out the door with a catapult and just take care of your workers, focus on quality product and good customer service.

Sure, you won't make as much money with all the crazy layoffs and book cookin' removed, but you'll build a real business with a loyal customer base and make products that speak for themselves, which in turn might even be bought by your employees.
 
2013-04-29 01:35:53 AM  

doglover: The fastest way to run a good business? Shoot anyone with an MBA who tries to work for you out the door with a catapult and just take care of your workers, focus on quality product and good customer service.

Sure, you won't make as much money with all the crazy layoffs and book cookin' removed, but you'll build a real business with a loyal customer base and make products that speak for themselves, which in turn might even be bought by your employees.


I wonder who took up that business plan?

i871.photobucket.com

/All joking aside, Costco is awesome
 
2013-04-29 01:36:27 AM  
sendtodave DePaul: It's not "We don't feel like hiring anymore people" it's "You are all a bunch of leeches and you've been stealing from us!"

But isn't it refreshing to truthfully know how much you are really valued?
And are you, personally, making the company millions through investment, or sales, or cooking the books, or restructuring? No?
Then you are suckling off the company teat. GBTW!


I plan to send a message to my superiors at some point this week. In it, I will express gratitude for the opportunity to serve under them. I will also beg for mercy for any minutes that I or my co-workers have stolen. I will probably do this via email. During my lunch break.
 
2013-04-29 01:40:04 AM  

R.P.M.: i worked as a busboy and server in the late 90's, and there was no pool. plus, depending on how much you did helped on the cut you got (servers would take a cut of their tips and give them to the bus boys). maybe that's changed, or it's a regional thing. i know it's not likely, but i wish everyone had to work on commission.


I believe it changed when debit became the most common form of payment.
 
2013-04-29 01:48:43 AM  
Circuit City found that out the hard way

Now they are no longer in business
 
2013-04-29 01:49:35 AM  

Ishkur: R.P.M.: i worked as a busboy and server in the late 90's, and there was no pool. plus, depending on how much you did helped on the cut you got (servers would take a cut of their tips and give them to the bus boys). maybe that's changed, or it's a regional thing. i know it's not likely, but i wish everyone had to work on commission.

I believe it changed when debit became the most common form of payment.


ah! that would explain a lot. and make me feel old. but now i can say, "i remember when we paid cash for tips, and liked it!"  thanks for the...tip <badum bump> ...ok, i'll go now.
 
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