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(NPR)   New research shows that the anti-drug PSAs from the 80s and 90s actually encouraged children to try drugs   (npr.org) divider line 160
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2013-04-28 10:16:58 PM

Dare to keep slugs off kids: That made for tv movie"Go Ask Alice" was cool to watch while stoned.It gave me a greater appreciation of"Dear Mr. Fantasy"by Traffic....Good times!


That was originally a book.  A fiction book that masqueraded as a memior.
 
2013-04-28 10:17:16 PM
I had a "This is my brain on drugs, any questions" T-shirt.  I was thinking about that the other day.
 
2013-04-28 10:18:01 PM
Far better drug education program.

"Kids, the following substances are relatively harmless, but we don't want you to do them because there's more to life than chemical dependency and you need to learn responsible portions... The following drugs can be used, but we do not recommend it because there are some serious consequences and they are extremely addicting... This last group of stuff you should not do because they are drugs for people who are already farked up."

Group 1: Pot, mild halucinagens, MDMA
Group 2: Stimulants, psychoalterative drugs, cocaine, opiates
Group 3: Crack, crystal meth, inhaling commercial-grade stuff
 
2013-04-28 10:18:35 PM
Unintended consequences - how does it work?!
 
2013-04-28 10:19:59 PM

phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.


But the government would never lie to you.
 
2013-04-28 10:20:18 PM
Heard 'em all...
LSD will permanently damage your DNA
Use cocaine or crack one time and you will be hooked for life
A couple smoked weed and put their baby in the oven by mistake
Alcohol is totally ok if you are of age, but otherwise it will give your developing brain serious damage
Cigarettes are the leading cause of AIDS

But hey, if one white girl gets scared straight that's totally worth all of the money spent on the War on Drugs.  What's a couple tens of thousands of black men going to jail for possession, and then not being able to pass a pee test to get a job when they're released?
 
2013-04-28 10:20:33 PM
I knew those ads were hollow propaganda even when I was 6 years old. Besides, all of childhood is guerrilla warfare against the authority of adults. If an adult tells you not to do something, it must be AWESOME.

I've used marijuana, don't care for it. No interest in harder stuff; I didn't even like taking Adderall for my ADD because of how it made me feel, so I turned around and flipped it to other kids who wanted to get high. I guess if a kid tried that today they'd charge him with drug trafficking and try him as an adult.

My drugs of choice are booze, caffeine and good, strong tobacco.
 
2013-04-28 10:22:20 PM

Gyrfalcon: All my karate students from the late 80's had to take DARE courses in middle school. It was mandatory in that district.

Two that I know of were subsequently arrested in high school for dealing (one meth, one jimsonweed [of all things]).

Proving nothing, of course; but in general kids had a much more cavalier attitude towards drugs than we did when I was  a wee lass.


I had a kid wearing a DARE shirt offer to sell me pot once.
 
2013-04-28 10:24:15 PM
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy:

My drugs of choice are booze, caffeine and good, strong tobacco.

Just what the alcohol, coffee and cigarette lobbies love, and what the government has been telling you to 'choose'.
 
2013-04-28 10:24:19 PM
2tfu.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-28 10:24:25 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Far better drug education program.

"Kids, the following substances are relatively harmless, but we don't want you to do them because there's more to life than chemical dependency and you need to learn responsible portions... The following drugs can be used, but we do not recommend it because there are some serious consequences and they are extremely addicting... This last group of stuff you should not do because they are drugs for people who are already farked up."

Group 1: Pot, mild halucinagens, MDMA
Group 2: Stimulants, psychoalterative drugs, cocaine, opiates
Group 3: Crack, crystal meth, inhaling commercial-grade stuff


Uh... MDMA is a stimulant (amongst other things), and strong hallucinogens like LSD (is this what you meant by psychoalterative drugs?) tend to be totally non addictive, so don't really fit into group 2...

Otherwise sure honesty might actually help reduce harm here, which is where we should be aiming but we seem to have got too caught up in the moral crusade aspect of it all.
 
2013-04-28 10:24:33 PM
Most drugs are just fine
 
2013-04-28 10:26:27 PM

MNguy: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy:

My drugs of choice are booze, caffeine and good, strong tobacco.

Just what the alcohol, coffee and cigarette lobbies love, and what the government has been telling you to 'choose'.


2/10. Go back to your van, hippie.
 
2013-04-28 10:26:43 PM

Salmon: Most drugs are just fine


This.
 
2013-04-28 10:28:53 PM
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy:

2/10. Go back to your van, hippie.

Keep paying your taxes for government approved drugs, tool.
 
2013-04-28 10:29:07 PM

moriarty23: But have you ever watched anti-drug PSA's...on weed?


Yes, and Reefer Madness on reefer is better than Cheech and Chong.
 
2013-04-28 10:30:04 PM
It took reading this thread to jog my memory about anti-drug ads of the 80's - but I do recall they seemed to portray the non-drug users in the same light as Christian rock musicians or other clean-living, misguided dorks while the drug users generally looked urban and edgy.  Their idea of "cool" to an '80's teen seemed to be viewed through the lens of someone like George H.W. Bush.

Most of my schools had very little drug culture (except one) so I wasn't exposed to it much and when I was it was easy enough to see the anti-drug messages had lied their asses off, which called into question some of the anti-SD and AIDS prevention messages we were bombarded with.

Heavy Metal music, Dungeons and Dragons were also said to drive kids crazy, cause murders, promote occult.  There were fun things about the '80's but man, there were people in positions of power who seemed to hate anything fun.

Factor in the notion that the Soviets weren't really too serious about trying to kill us and you've got a real shiat situation.  I'm one of the youngest Gen-X'ers but it's not too hard to see where the cynicism and distrust comes from.
 
2013-04-28 10:32:42 PM
 
2013-04-28 10:33:37 PM

The Devil's Left Hand: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]
/hot
//like RLC


That one is pretty good actually. Speaking from experience.
 
2013-04-28 10:35:10 PM

phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.


Just one fix!
 
2013-04-28 10:37:15 PM

UsikFark: phrawgh: Dead for Tax Reasons: phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.

never junk a trustee

One more fix...

You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug.


i155.photobucket.com
try that with this guy; let me know how that turns out
 
2013-04-28 10:38:57 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I've never taken any Schedule 1 drug. I suppose some of that anti-drug propaganda had its effect, but mostly I didn't want to be around the types of people who I saw who were involved in taking the drugs. Nowadays, if I were in WA or CO, I might try some marijuana, but in general I shy away from that kind of thing because of the people I'd have to interact with.


To be fair, going to a dispensary here in CO is pretty much the same as going to a 7/11 or something, you just point at what you want behind the counter, say how much you want, pay, and go... the joy of legalizing it means no trips to shady neighborhoods to deal with people who may or may not rob you at gunpoint when you get there.
 
2013-04-28 10:40:03 PM
I'm more upset about the drug war on our society.  We have lost freedoms we will never get back as well as ruining the lives of millions.  In the end leaving drugs legal would have been much less dangerous for our society in the long run and we would still have some constitutional protections.
 
2013-04-28 10:40:05 PM

TV's Vinnie: [makemelaugh.com image 600x768]




www.ashleyandlitsa.com
 
2013-04-28 10:41:13 PM
Not surprising. The drug war folks always painted an image of an overbearing bully-type person trapping you in a corner, forcing you to make the decision to do drugs. When the reality is that one of your friends nonchalantly mentions that he does it, and doesn't care if you do them or not, you not only realize the scare tactics were bullshiat but now you're curious to try it. I do think the scare tactics work on kids in elementary school, by middle school it still sounds like a bad idea to half the kids, and then by high school the jig's up.

I always thought the idea of something that could alter your mind or the way you felt sounded pretty cool, and couldn't wait to give it a try.
 
2013-04-28 10:42:55 PM

Salmon: Most drugs are just fine


in moderation which, admittedly, is difficult with certain drugs but if you exercise proper restraint you can avoid addiction to just about anything.
 
2013-04-28 10:43:30 PM

Genevieve Marie: "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0BeLz5blM


You know you here those stories about kids taking acid and jumping windows cause they thought they could fly. Guess what? I'm glad they are dead! Cause that is the stupidest shiat ever. They would have never contributed anything meaningful to our society anyway. I mean you never see a geese jump out of a window when it firsts tries to fly. No! They start on the ground and get a running start.
 
2013-04-28 10:44:00 PM

Breygon: UsikFark: phrawgh: Dead for Tax Reasons: phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.

never junk a trustee

One more fix...

You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug.

[i155.photobucket.com image 630x919]
try that with this guy; let me know how that turns out


That's some wanky blotter art, man.
 
2013-04-28 10:47:41 PM
They never realized what every parent already knows.

Tell them not to do it, and they do it.
 
2013-04-28 10:48:19 PM
www.pauldinello.net

"I thought I'd teach class today in a more informal setting. I was hoping we could shoot the breeze a bit, you know rap."

"Now there's been this herb that's affecting my class. Most of you know it by it's ancient Dutch name MaraHuughjuana"

(students laugh)

"Everything is funny on pot isn't it"

"Yeah I used to get stoned. A few years back I was pretty down. I'd just started this job, and my plugs weren't taking, my parents were brutally murdered and I was.. fat."

"So I turned to pot hoping it would solve my problems. And you know something. The only thing it fixed was my life."

"I know it feels good. I know we've all read the "scientific studies" that say it's non-addictive and there are no side effects."

"But scientist don't smoke pot. We do. And that's the difference."

"All I'm saying is if you want to get high, then be prepared to spend a lot of time laughing with your friends. Think about it."
 
2013-04-28 10:50:45 PM
as a teen back in the 70's, I blame Dr.Demento and Cheech and Chong for making
me wanna try it...just a few of the songs on Dr.D...
1) Homegrown's allright with me, homegrown is the way it should be....
2) Frosty the dope man,was a turned-on dude by trade...
3) Who put the benzedrine in mrs.murphy's ovaltine?
4) Do the sinsemilla shake
And many others...
 
2013-04-28 10:55:46 PM

Gyrfalcon: There is no way anyone would do all those different drugs. At least not at the same time.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-28 10:57:01 PM
carlanthonyonlinedotcom.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-28 10:57:38 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: [2tfu.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]


Since Carl Sagan helped design the messages on the Pioneer and Voyager spacecraft, which should exist safe in the interstellar void for a least a billion years, after all life and technology as we know it on Earth turns to dust, it so happens a recreational drug user helped to decide who got the last word. The very, very last word, as in, there'll be nobody still alive to say anything else. So, suck it, prohibitionists. Or launch your own starship with an anti-drug message, I guess.
 
2013-04-28 10:57:58 PM

Breygon: UsikFark: phrawgh: Dead for Tax Reasons: phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.

never junk a trustee

One more fix...

You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug.


try that with this guy; let me know how that turns out


"...especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye."
 
2013-04-28 11:00:31 PM
FTA, "The U.S. has spent millions of dollars since the 1980s on anti-drug ads. "

I wonder how many starving children could have been fed or given medical treatment, with that money.
 
2013-04-28 11:01:03 PM
Just like those Truth anti-tobacco ads.
 
2013-04-28 11:01:07 PM
 
2013-04-28 11:03:18 PM

StoPPeRmobile: FTA, "The U.S. has spent millions of dollars since the 1980s on anti-drug ads. "

I wonder how many starving children could have been fed or given medical treatment, with that money.


None because they would have all died from drugs.
 
2013-04-28 11:03:39 PM

cretinbob: And because they lied about marijuana, kids are now doing heroin and shooting up xanax and meth because clearly the problems all those drugs cause must be a lie too.


The devils choice. fark xanax, right in the ass.

farking xanax zombies.
 
2013-04-28 11:03:41 PM
Perhaps they were simply overwhelmed and defeated in detail by the cunning schemes of Mssrs Sid and Marty Kroft?
 
2013-04-28 11:03:54 PM
When I was in eighth grade the science teacher told us about a guy who took LSD and thought he was an orange and was terrified if anyone touched him he would turn into orange juice.

At that moment, I decided I needed to try this drug as soon as possible.
 
2013-04-28 11:04:15 PM
I saw those commercials. I tried drugs. Story checks out.
 
2013-04-28 11:04:36 PM
Ya know what would work?

A group of convicts saying that if you get caught with so much as one joint, you be visiting them and start bleeding from places you never thought possible.
 
2013-04-28 11:06:43 PM
You know, maybe if the Democrats got together, picked out a pro-weed guy they liked, voted him into the Presidency, he could stop all of this f****** bu**** in its place. Stop it, declare victory like the champ we know he is, and show us all how it is done.
 
2013-04-28 11:07:19 PM

Marshal805: Ya know what would work?

A group of convicts saying that if you get caught with so much as one joint, you be visiting them and start bleeding from places you never thought possible.


Ha, that doesn't work. If anything, that just makes you want to smoke it more.
 
2013-04-28 11:07:23 PM
This is an egg:
upload.wikimedia.org

This is an egg on drugs:
misadventureswithandi.com
 
2013-04-28 11:07:43 PM

StoPPeRmobile: cretinbob: And because they lied about marijuana, kids are now doing heroin and shooting up xanax and meth because clearly the problems all those drugs cause must be a lie too.

The devils choice. fark xanax, right in the ass.

farking xanax zombies.


Injecting ground up pills is actually a bad idea, the fillers are not the stuff you would want chilling out in your bloodstream.
 
2013-04-28 11:08:20 PM

MNguy: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy:

2/10. Go back to your van, hippie.

Keep paying your taxes for government approved drugs, tool.


what if I just prefer alcohol to other drugs? Can I still be cool?
 
2013-04-28 11:08:34 PM
Some of my fondest moments of the 80s were getting baked out of my skull and giggling with my friends at that egg commercial.
 
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