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(NPR)   New research shows that the anti-drug PSAs from the 80s and 90s actually encouraged children to try drugs   (npr.org) divider line 160
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2013-04-28 09:41:51 PM

Ishkur: I remember the anti-drug talk. There were always these weird stories about how some guy tried acid and thought he was an orange so he peeled all his skin off. All the kids were all shocked and horrified that drugs could make you do such things, but I reasoned it out: Why do people do drugs if these experiences are so unpleasant? The correct answer was, of course, that they weren't.

So we were being lied to. It took me all of about 10 minutes to figure this out while the speaker was still on stage telling us how bad being high was.

The only thing anti-drug programs did was introduce us to drugs we didn't know existed.


It also helped me create a checklist.
 
2013-04-28 09:42:16 PM
But have you ever watched anti-drug PSA's...on weed?
 
2013-04-28 09:42:27 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I must have been one of the few that all the scary drug talk worked with, because I was terrified of trying drugs as a kid. I was afraid I'd jump off a building in a bad trip or something. I had no idea how to differentiate say pot, from LSD, from Speed or Angle Dust or all the other drug lingo.

I just said "no" when offered. No one made fun of me, but I didn't become part of their "circle" either. At the time, I might have felt a little left out, but I have no regrets for sure.

Later, in college, I learned enough to find pot fairly harmless (although with my personality, it can make me paranoid). Due to a couple of paranoid times with pot, I absolutely refused to try anything stronger. I'm all for legalizing marijuana, though, because I believe alcohol is WAY more dangerous and it's legal.

I'm still a nancy nerd, though.


To this day, I refuse to try anything that could cause hallucinations or psychosis.  The concept of not knowing what's real is terrifying to me.  As for everything else (well, except weed), I simply have no interest in it.
 
2013-04-28 09:43:11 PM
Even as a kid, I thought these were stupid.

I didn't do drugs and didn't know of anyone who did. My dad explained to me how people who got addicted to drugs had lots of other underlying problems that caused them to turn to drugs to dull the mental pain. That made me ask "If those people are doing drugs because they're already screwed up, what good is some 'Just say no' ad going to do in making them stop?"

The one thing that kept me from abusing drugs when I was young was seeing what a high school age guy (older sibling of a classmate) went through while quitting smoking. He stopped cold turkey, almost had a psychotic episode from nicotine withdrawal, and hocked up black crap for a week as he lungs flushed the poisons out from his system. I figured if cigs did that, heroin and cocaine were probably way worse.
 
2013-04-28 09:43:14 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I must have been one of the few that all the scary drug talk worked with, because I was terrified of trying drugs as a kid. I was afraid I'd jump off a building in a bad trip or something. I had no idea how to differentiate say pot, from LSD, from Speed or Angle Dust or all the other drug lingo.


When I was in eighth grade and I entered high school for the first time, all the anti-drug videos (and some movied) had me convinced that high school bathrooms were crawling with people using drugs 24/7, and that everyone in high school used drugs except for a tiny minority of "unpopular" kids.

I avoided the bathroom for the first three days, but couldn't hold it on the fourth day and was genuinely surprised that nothing was going on in there.

Then, a few weeks later I walked in and saw a senior bent over in front of a mirror with his hands at his face.  It looked like he was snorting cocaine, and I got really scared and thought, "Oh God, here it is."  Then I saw he was just popping a zit.

Not a single person has ever (seriously) offered me an illegal drug, let alone "pushed" it on me.  Which, incidentally, is not how peer pressure works.  I have still never seen anyone use an illegal drug in person.  (Closest I came was seeing people brandish joints at protests in college.)  In fact, the only reason I know what marijuana smells like is I once used a public restroom in Boulder.
 
2013-04-28 09:43:18 PM
no kidding. I grew up in the Just Say No era and the whole, this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs? any questions? BS. 20+ years later, I am happy to report my brain is comprised of nothing more than a couple of sunny side up eggs.  Yeah, I gave up pot a couple of years ago, but only because I became a step parent and kid knows both me and his dad used to smoke.  We just ask that he deal as fairly and honestly as he can without too much judgement/punishment within our household.

Off to make eggies, now! or hole in ones, if you prefer :)
 
2013-04-28 09:44:45 PM

Ishkur: I remember the anti-drug talk. There were always these weird stories about how some guy tried acid and thought he was an orange so he peeled all his skin off. All the kids were all shocked and horrified that drugs could make you do such things, but I reasoned it out: Why do people do drugs if these experiences are so unpleasant? The correct answer was, of course, that they weren't.

So we were being lied to. It took me all of about 10 minutes to figure this out while the speaker was still on stage telling us how bad being high was.

The only thing anti-drug programs did was introduce us to drugs we didn't know existed.


If you're old enough to remember reading "Go Ask Alice", the amazing TRUE STORY of a girl's trip through every single drug known to man (at that time)...you'll recall thinking what I thought by the end of that book: There is no way anyone would do all those different drugs. At least not at the same time. When I got older, I realized, of course, it was written by someone who had never done a single drug in his/her/their/its entire life.
 
2013-04-28 09:45:18 PM
One of the better PSAs was the anti-marijuana ad that had some dude in his late 20s sitting in a basement going on about how marijuana didn't affect him, only for his mom to call out to him about finding a job.  I was visiting my parents' house and was in the living room with my stoner brother (unemployed, living at home) when the PSA ran.  I just looked over at him and he just cringed.


/dumbass self-medicates instead of dealing with his anxiety
 
2013-04-28 09:45:37 PM
Ronin_S:
The one thing that kept me from abusing drugs when I was young was seeing what a high school age guy (older sibling of a classmate) went through while quitting smoking. He stopped cold turkey, almost had a psychotic episode from nicotine withdrawal, and hocked up black crap for a week as he lungs flushed the poisons out from his system.

Bull shiat.
 
2013-04-28 09:47:29 PM

SecretAgentWoman: I must have been one of the few that all the scary drug talk worked with, because I was terrified of trying drugs as a kid. I was afraid I'd jump off a building in a bad trip or something. I had no idea how to differentiate say pot, from LSD, from Speed or Angle Dust or all the other drug lingo.

I just said "no" when offered. No one made fun of me, but I didn't become part of their "circle" either. At the time, I might have felt a little left out, but I have no regrets for sure.

Later, in college, I learned enough to find pot fairly harmless (although with my personality, it can make me paranoid). Due to a couple of paranoid times with pot, I absolutely refused to try anything stronger. I'm all for legalizing marijuana, though, because I believe alcohol is WAY more dangerous and it's legal.

I'm still a nancy nerd, though.


Yep, same here.  Only ever smoked pot twice (first time when I was 18, second was in my mid-20s and in front of a lawyer... don't ask).  Also was a bit of a wuss when it came to smoking cigarettes: started just before my 18th birthday, and quit for good just before my 20th.  Meanwhile I'm weak-sauce when it comes to booze and have had blackouts after only a few drinks.

I know, I sound fun.  :-/
 
2013-04-28 09:49:52 PM
No sh*t.
 
2013-04-28 09:50:28 PM
This was seriously a blast to play:

narc.trailertheater.com

Arrest the trench-coat wearing crack pushers, avoid mullet-haired heroin dealers throwing syringes at you, fire rocket launchers at PCP-overdosing monsters tossing dumpsters (the drug makes them impervious to bullets), rescue prostitutes from killer rapist clowns, and gun down pot-smoking PTSD-addled Vietnam vets carrying M-16s. This game could not be made today.

3.bp.blogspot.com

Only the 80s could produce something this ludicrous, this sleazy, this ridiculous over-the-top portrayal of drug culture so unrealistic that it can only be considered satire. It's like everything Republicans actually believe in a concentrated capsule of Reaganism, the only drug that matters.
 
2013-04-28 09:51:36 PM
i.imgur.com

/oblig
 
2013-04-28 09:51:54 PM
Marijuana is my ANTI-DRUG :)
 
2013-04-28 09:52:04 PM
I used to think drugs were cool, until I saw THIS!
 
2013-04-28 09:52:58 PM
i199.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-28 09:53:24 PM
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0BeLz5blM
 
2013-04-28 09:53:54 PM
They need a PSA now that explains how weed is 170X more powerful than in the 80s. I could have used this crucial information.
 
2013-04-28 09:55:11 PM
Dumb kids maybe...
 
2013-04-28 09:55:33 PM
I loved playing Narc, and did so almost exclusively baked out of my mind whilst skipping class in Junior High.

That was the life.
 
2013-04-28 09:55:48 PM

ArcadianRefugee: "You have people laughing at the person who's doing drugs, and calling that person names that are like so two years ago," Wagner says.

[geek-news.mtv.com image 431x289]


Is Picard face-palming at Star Trek's own 1980's anti-drugs episode...
i.imgur.com
...complete with innocent Wesley Crusher getting a full-blown anti-drugs lecture from rape-and-drugs-planet survivor Tasha Yar?
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-28 09:57:01 PM
dickard.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-28 09:58:16 PM

Gyrfalcon: If you're old enough to remember reading "Go Ask Alice", the amazing TRUE STORY of a girl's trip through every single drug known to man (at that time)...you'll recall thinking what I thought by the end of that book: There is no way anyone would do all those different drugs. At least not at the same time. When I got older, I realized, of course, it was written by someone who had never done a single drug in his/her/their/its entire life.


Of course it was fake. You have any idea how many drugs there are? I mean, Alex Shulgin wrote this for crying out loud:

upload.wikimedia.org

He lists 1400 different types of designer drugs from the methyl group alone. In order to study their effects, he used himself as a test subject, and tested. every. single. one of them.

Dude's still alive. He's almost 90 and sharper than ever.
 
2013-04-28 09:59:01 PM

Ishkur: The only thing anti-drug programs did was introduce us to drugs we didn't know existed.


That's pretty much it.  Anti-drug spots encourage drug use for the same reason the Virginia Tech shooting caused an increase in enrollment at Virginia Tech:   bad publicity is still publicity, and gives the product a prominent place in your consciousness.
 
2013-04-28 09:59:16 PM

phrawgh: Dead for Tax Reasons: phrawgh: Never trust a junkie.

never junk a trustee

One more fix...


You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug.
 
2013-04-28 09:59:23 PM

ArcadianRefugee: CapeFearCadaver: [misadventureswithandi.com image 400x299]
I always like eggs.

That one was always laughable, even then.

This one, though, was always my favorite.


She was suffering from acute case of the PMS.
 
2013-04-28 10:00:12 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: DARE has been proven to be basically useless, DARE schools have no better results than non-DARE schools.


Actually worse I believe, but that doesn't seem to stop them.
 
2013-04-28 10:01:03 PM
I was in school prior to all these PSAs ... and I didn't need them to stay clear of drug and drinking abuse.

CSB: had a kid in my neighborhood I grew up with - he was one grade behind me. He was ok, until he reached H/S. The then started going downhill. First, it was the occasional drink. Then full-on getting drunk by the time he was a sophomore. Sometime during his junior year, he started using drugs. His parents were in denial ... his friends (including me) didn't want to speak to the obvious. He started breaking into peoples homes to support his growing habit. The next year, he dropped out of school... and almost had to join the military to keep from going to jail.

I didn't need a PSA to keep me off of doing drugs... I had a real life example to watch.

/ epilog: it took several years... but my friend finally turned things around.
 
2013-04-28 10:01:08 PM

Summoner101: Whatever happened to Rachel Leigh Cook?

She was cute.


The Devil's Left Hand: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]
/hot
//like RLC


Rachael Leigh Cook thread?

www.hdwallpapersarena.com
img.mypopulars.com
3.bp.blogspot.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-28 10:03:19 PM

Ishkur: pot-smoking PTSD-addled Vietnam vets


Did these people pay any attention? The real damaged guys came home addicted to heroin.
 
2013-04-28 10:03:38 PM

Ishkur: This was seriously a blast to play:

[narc.trailertheater.com image 480x360]

Arrest the trench-coat wearing crack pushers, avoid mullet-haired heroin dealers throwing syringes at you, fire rocket launchers at PCP-overdosing monsters tossing dumpsters (the drug makes them impervious to bullets), rescue prostitutes from killer rapist clowns, and gun down pot-smoking PTSD-addled Vietnam vets carrying M-16s. This game could not be made today.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 512x400]

Only the 80s could produce something this ludicrous, this sleazy, this ridiculous over-the-top portrayal of drug culture so unrealistic that it can only be considered satire. It's like everything Republicans actually believe in a concentrated capsule of Reaganism, the only drug that matters.


*flashback*

I'll remember that game could be heard in EVERY arcade at ALL times, since the attract mode was the same volume as someone who was playing it. And this plastered across the screen:

i291.photobucket.com

/i got next game
 
2013-04-28 10:05:09 PM

MNguy: Ronin_S:
The one thing that kept me from abusing drugs when I was young was seeing what a high school age guy (older sibling of a classmate) went through while quitting smoking. He stopped cold turkey, almost had a psychotic episode from nicotine withdrawal, and hocked up black crap for a week as he lungs flushed the poisons out from his system.

Bull shiat.


He was perfectly fine afterwards.
 
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2013-04-28 10:06:49 PM
there was an anti-drug ad where a kid said "take a chill pill"
 
2013-04-28 10:07:33 PM
My favourite slogan was

jamjamtees.com
 
2013-04-28 10:08:29 PM

Ishkur: Gyrfalcon: If you're old enough to remember reading "Go Ask Alice", the amazing TRUE STORY of a girl's trip through every single drug known to man (at that time)...you'll recall thinking what I thought by the end of that book: There is no way anyone would do all those different drugs. At least not at the same time. When I got older, I realized, of course, it was written by someone who had never done a single drug in his/her/their/its entire life.

Of course it was fake. You have any idea how many drugs there are? I mean, Alex Shulgin wrote this for crying out loud:



He lists 1400 different types of designer drugs from the methyl group alone. In order to study their effects, he used himself as a test subject, and tested. every. single. one of them.

Dude's still alive. He's almost 90 and sharper than ever.


Sasha Shulgin is a personal hero of mine, but last I heard he wasn't doing so well, mentally. This is probably mostly due to him just being really old.

He has the dubious of having had the UK government enshrine PIKHAL in law. As in - the law is that everything mentioned in there is banned! He also did a followup call TIKHAL.
 
2013-04-28 10:09:29 PM

Cyno01: Summoner101: Whatever happened to Rachel Leigh Cook?

She was cute.

The Devil's Left Hand: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]
/hot
//like RLC

Rachael Leigh Cook thread?

[www.hdwallpapersarena.com image 571x786]
[img.mypopulars.com image 850x1277]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 736x1024]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 700x897]
[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x381]


I came for this.

images.allposters.com
 
2013-04-28 10:09:33 PM
I tried a lot of drugs, but was never addicted.

I'm the person who could do one line and no more.

Drink one glass of beer or wine and not need anymore.

Take two puffs off a joint or pipe and stop.

I have seen the other type of person and I'm glad I'm not like that.

Because drugs are really really great if taken properly

Cue bills hicks, didn't kill any body didn't rape anybody, didn't lose one farming job had a great darling time and went about my day
 
2013-04-28 10:09:56 PM
 
2013-04-28 10:10:46 PM

aerojockey: It looked like he was snorting cocaine, and I got really scared and thought, "Oh God, here it is."  Then I saw he was just popping a zit.


I think I'd've rather he be snorting cocaine...

/gross
 
2013-04-28 10:10:52 PM
From my childhood, "Just Say No To Drugs" PSAs were usually followed with commercials for Miller Genuine Draft and NyQuil.
 
2013-04-28 10:11:37 PM
That made for tv movie"Go Ask Alice" was cool to watch while stoned.It gave me a greater appreciation of"Dear Mr. Fantasy"by Traffic....Good times!
 
2013-04-28 10:11:44 PM

Rreal: This is Crack..


We're gonna smoke some and make a special movie, just for kids!
 
2013-04-28 10:12:14 PM

UsikFark: Did these people pay any attention? The real damaged guys came home addicted to heroin.


You gotta play the farking game to get the full experience of 80s Republicanism in its most distilled essence.

It's available on MAME or whatever your coin-op emulator of choice.
 
2013-04-28 10:12:59 PM

UsikFark: You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug


especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye
 
2013-04-28 10:13:24 PM

TV's Vinnie: From my childhood, "Just Say No To Drugs" PSAs were usually followed with commercials for Miller Genuine Draft and NyQuil.


I don't remember the TV PSAs, but I do remember "Winners don't do drugs" on all the arcade games. Winners kill everyone, duh.
 
2013-04-28 10:13:25 PM
I will add here for the record that IMHO drugs do not make you interesting or cool. Some very boring people do drugs and some normally interesting people become boring on them.

It's your life and you should do what you want, but make sure it's what *you* want.

Also nothing on gods earth will make you hurt like too much booze. Nothing.

/here endeth the lesson.
 
2013-04-28 10:13:46 PM

ultraholland: and that crying indian gave me an overwhelming urge to pollute


Seeing episodes of Captain Planet did that for me.

/ What kind of a retarded power is "heart", anyway?
 
2013-04-28 10:14:18 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: UsikFark: You can turn your back on a person, but you can't turn your back on a drug

especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye


And wants you to drop in the tape deck right at White Rabbit's peak.
 
2013-04-28 10:16:34 PM
Fark threads on drugs....more or less effective than PSA's from the 80's and 90's?  You snort, we deride.
 
2013-04-28 10:16:47 PM
makemelaugh.com
 
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