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(WILX Michigan)   Student who won the right to keep guinea pig in her dorm honored by fair housing group, Richard Gere   (wilx.com) divider line 39
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2013-04-28 03:42:44 PM
Gerbil, dumbass
 
2013-04-28 05:48:02 PM
www.comicbookmovie.com
 
2013-04-28 06:28:57 PM
I am currently am on Rigel 5 and the page says it's going to take 8 days to load on the interstellar IntroNet. Please summarize the article for me. With only not many words.
 
2013-04-28 06:28:58 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Gerbil, dumbass


Oh no, I forgot to fact check an urban legend.

</sarcasm>
/Subby
 
2013-04-28 06:30:34 PM
Perhaps this "dorm" is actually a meticulously-fabricated set under the control of a team of evil research scientists, and she's the real guinea pig...
 
2013-04-28 06:31:04 PM
Good. fark 'em.
 
2013-04-28 06:37:46 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

The saga of Lemmiwinks continues...
 
2013-04-28 06:39:42 PM
I don't see what on Earth this has to do with "fair housing".  Property owners have every right to set rules for the properties they rent out.  Otherwise they end up with completely trashed buildings in no time at all.  Some self-absorbed coont convinces some insane judge that she has a "right" an keep an animal in an apartment and these folks treat her like she's ghandi. Ugh.  Makes me want to puke.
 
2013-04-28 06:43:07 PM

Ima4nic8or: I don't see what on Earth this has to do with "fair housing".  Property owners have every right to set rules for the properties they rent out.  Otherwise they end up with completely trashed buildings in no time at all.  Some self-absorbed coont convinces some insane judge that she has a "right" an keep an animal in an apartment and these folks treat her like she's ghandi. Ugh.  Makes me want to puke.


If she was Ghandi, that hamster would not be black, just sayin'.
 
2013-04-28 06:43:22 PM
It's cruel to have only one guinea pig.
 
2013-04-28 06:57:01 PM
I wish we had more info on this case. Does the judgement imply that you can bring in anything you want now so long as it helps you deal with "physical and emotional challenges?"

All the weed advocates should jump on this one before it's too late.
 
2013-04-28 06:57:10 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Gerbil, dumbass


Approves:

media.canada.com

/Philly area Farkers know what I'm talking about
 
2013-04-28 06:57:31 PM
FTFA: Velzen sued Grand Valley State University last year, saying the school violated federal housing rules. She said the guinea pig helped her cope with physical and emotional challenges.

Fine. Set aside one dorm building where these "challenged" people who can't live without their pets can live with them. Require a doctor's certification that the pet is required. Keep the rest of the dorms pet-free. Better yet, just rent a place off-campus that allows pets. It would probably be cheaper anyway.

<old man rant>

This whole "I can't survive without my pet" thing has gotten way out of hand. First, it was people bringing their cats into airplane cabins. Never mind that they're bringing a well-known contagion into a confined space with partially recirculated air. Then it was people being allowed to bring their dogs with them into restaurants. The whole anxiety-without-my-pet thing is debatable, but allergic reactions to these animals, their hair and their dander, is not. Additionally, their feces, urine, saliva and parasites are not appropriate for these environments.

And before people chime in with the "dog is cleaner than a human" nonsense... just stop. Before you start lecturing anyone about how clean these animals are, how about looking up health department regulations as they apply to places like dog-grooming businesses. Read the details about all of the nasty things that can come from your pets -- and other people's pets. And even if you "know" your pet is the cleanest, most sanitary animal in the world, remember, it's not just your pet being allowed in these settings. You know how nasty "other people" can be -- what makes you think that these folks' pets are any less nasty?

</old man rant>

Phew... I think I was channeling George Carlin there for a moment.
 
2013-04-28 06:57:38 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Gerbil, dumbass


You never know, perhaps Gere has moved on to bigger and better things
 
2013-04-28 06:58:17 PM

comhcinc: It's cruel to have only one guinea pig.


That is true. They are social creatures.

Besides, if you only have one, some of them move so little that you can't even tell they're alive. How much fun is that?
 
2013-04-28 07:01:41 PM

cryinoutloud: comhcinc: It's cruel to have only one guinea pig.

That is true. They are social creatures.

Besides, if you only have one, some of them move so little that you can't even tell they're alive. How much fun is that?


Yep, we have two guinea pigs.  They each have distinct personalities, the kids have a ton of fun with them. They love it when I enter the room because they know I always give them hay or a treat.
 
2013-04-28 07:03:21 PM
I knew it!  I'm surrounded by dorms!
 
2013-04-28 07:07:22 PM
This is my alma mater. To refresh your memories, let me remind you that this girl was allowed to keep her animal in the pet-free dorms without any problems. She sued because they would not allow her to bring it into food areas and classrooms. This is ridiculous. But GVSU had no choice. $40k vs a court battle? Easy pick, I guess, when you're the lowest-funded state school in Michigan despite having the most growth, high graduation rates, high job placement rates, and routinely being listed in the Nation's Top 100 Universities guide.
 
2013-04-28 07:14:34 PM

Chibi Shinigami: This is my alma mater. To refresh your memories, let me remind you that this girl was allowed to keep her animal in the pet-free dorms without any problems. She sued because they would not allow her to bring it into food areas and classrooms. This is ridiculous. But GVSU had no choice. $40k vs a court battle? Easy pick, I guess, when you're the lowest-funded state school in Michigan despite having the most growth, high graduation rates, high job placement rates, and routinely being listed in the Nation's Top 100 Universities guide.


So you're saying that we should cut school funding.

The guinea pig died shortly after this lawsuit was filed.  Coincidence or karma?
 
2013-04-28 07:18:32 PM
 
2013-04-28 07:21:19 PM

DoubleOZero: I wish we had more info on this case. Does the judgement imply that you can bring in anything you want now so long as it helps you deal with "physical and emotional challenges?"

All the weed advocates should jump on this one before it's too late.


Medical marijuana is already legal in Michigan where this happened
 
2013-04-28 07:32:10 PM

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: Velzen sued Grand Valley State University last year, saying the school violated federal housing rules. She said the guinea pig helped her cope with physical and emotional challenges.

Fine. Set aside one dorm building where these "challenged" people who can't live without their pets can live with them. Require a doctor's certification that the pet is required. Keep the rest of the dorms pet-free. Better yet, just rent a place off-campus that allows pets. It would probably be cheaper anyway.

<old man rant>

This whole "I can't survive without my pet" thing has gotten way out of hand. First, it was people bringing their cats into airplane cabins. Never mind that they're bringing a well-known contagion into a confined space with partially recirculated air. Then it was people being allowed to bring their dogs with them into restaurants. The whole anxiety-without-my-pet thing is debatable, but allergic reactions to these animals, their hair and their dander, is not. Additionally, their feces, urine, saliva and parasites are not appropriate for these environments.

And before people chime in with the "dog is cleaner than a human" nonsense... just stop. Before you start lecturing anyone about how clean these animals are, how about looking up health department regulations as they apply to places like dog-grooming businesses. Read the details about all of the nasty things that can come from your pets -- and other people's pets. And even if you "know" your pet is the cleanest, most sanitary animal in the world, remember, it's not just your pet being allowed in these settings. You know how nasty "other people" can be -- what makes you think that these folks' pets are any less nasty?

</old man rant>

Phew... I think I was channeling George Carlin there for a moment.


Holy crap. Can we be friends? I'll join your newsletter and everything. Sometimes I feel like the pet freaks have everyone but me on their side.
 
2013-04-28 07:34:57 PM

Ed Willy: DoubleOZero: I wish we had more info on this case. Does the judgement imply that you can bring in anything you want now so long as it helps you deal with "physical and emotional challenges?"

All the weed advocates should jump on this one before it's too late.

Medical marijuana is already legal in Michigan where this happened


Weed around GVSU is a huge no-no, laws or no laws.

So is drinking. Seriously.

I love GVSU (I made a mistake and went to MSU) but the cops over there are insane. I would probably be in jail right now if I went to GVSU.
 
2013-04-28 07:38:58 PM

megarian: Ed Willy: DoubleOZero: I wish we had more info on this case. Does the judgement imply that you can bring in anything you want now so long as it helps you deal with "physical and emotional challenges?"

All the weed advocates should jump on this one before it's too late.

Medical marijuana is already legal in Michigan where this happened

Weed around GVSU is a huge no-no, laws or no laws.

So is drinking. Seriously.

I love GVSU (I made a mistake and went to MSU) but the cops over there are insane. I would probably be in jail right now if I went to GVSU.


Right. Public Safety there matters...because they're deputized as county cops too, just to fark with students.

/graduated 3 years ago
//would move back to GR in a heartbeat.
 
2013-04-28 07:52:33 PM
I had a guinea pig once. She was a fat chick who could whip up a delicious dish of macaroni.
 
2013-04-28 07:55:04 PM

Chibi Shinigami: megarian: Ed Willy: DoubleOZero: I wish we had more info on this case. Does the judgement imply that you can bring in anything you want now so long as it helps you deal with "physical and emotional challenges?"

All the weed advocates should jump on this one before it's too late.

Medical marijuana is already legal in Michigan where this happened

Weed around GVSU is a huge no-no, laws or no laws.

So is drinking. Seriously.

I love GVSU (I made a mistake and went to MSU) but the cops over there are insane. I would probably be in jail right now if I went to GVSU.

Right. Public Safety there matters...because they're deputized as county cops too, just to fark with students.

/graduated 3 years ago
//would move back to GR in a heartbeat.


I love GR. Amazing beer. Awesome city. The cops in the city are pretty nice and normal. But the police around GVSU seriously have some strange issues. I have many, many stories about this. Some hilarious. Some kind of depressing because it screwed up a kid's life for being 20 and drinking in college.

But you're absolutely right. Grand Rapids is pretty awesome. It seems like all the good concerts are up there, too.
 
2013-04-28 07:56:45 PM
Meh, I kept cockroaches in my dorm room for an entomology class project.
www.legendsofamerica.com
 
2013-04-28 07:57:51 PM

comhcinc: It's cruel to have only one guinea pig.


I feel the same way about cats. They need someone to fight/play with.
 
2013-04-28 08:00:12 PM

SpaceBison: Meh, I kept cockroaches in my dorm room for an entomology class project.


Woah. I think I dated you in college.
 
2013-04-28 08:38:11 PM

Ed Willy: Britney Spear's Speculum: Gerbil, dumbass

Oh no, I forgot to fact check an urban legend.

</sarcasm>
/Subby


You're a farking dumbass. It isn't true and it isn't even funny.

/doesn't give a shiat for Richard Gere, but doesn't like stupid bullshiat like this
//I heard you may or may not have shoved a gerbil up your ass once
///may not have
 
2013-04-28 08:56:06 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: You're a farking dumbass. It isn't true and it isn't even funny.

/doesn't give a shiat for Richard Gere, but doesn't like stupid bullshiat like this
//I heard you may or may not have shoved a gerbil up your ass once
///may not have


Hello Richard
 
2013-04-28 09:06:00 PM
On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.
 
2013-04-28 09:25:48 PM

BMFPitt: On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.


Hell, she'll be unable to find an apartment.  No, not because of the pet thing.  Pretext....it's a biatch.

PSA: If you're a landlord, it is a violation of tenants' civil rights to ask them to show proof that their animal is a certified, trained therapy animal.  Thanks, FHA!
 
2013-04-28 09:34:20 PM

another cultural observer: BMFPitt: On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.

Hell, she'll be unable to find an apartment.  No, not because of the pet thing.  Pretext....it's a biatch.

PSA: If you're a landlord, it is a violation of tenants' civil rights to ask them to show proof that their animal is a certified, trained therapy animal.  Thanks, FHA!


There are no certifications for therapy animals.
 
2013-04-28 10:46:02 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Ed Willy: Britney Spear's Speculum: Gerbil, dumbass

Oh no, I forgot to fact check an urban legend.

</sarcasm>
/Subby

You're a farking dumbass. It isn't true and it isn't even funny.

/doesn't give a shiat for Richard Gere, but doesn't like stupid bullshiat like this
//I heard you may or may not have shoved a gerbil up your ass once
///may not have


Lighten up, Francis
 
2013-04-28 11:25:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: another cultural observer: BMFPitt: On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.

Hell, she'll be unable to find an apartment.  No, not because of the pet thing.  Pretext....it's a biatch.

PSA: If you're a landlord, it is a violation of tenants' civil rights to ask them to show proof that their animal is a certified, trained therapy animal.  Thanks, FHA!

There are no certifications for therapy animals.


Why not?
 
2013-04-28 11:39:36 PM
crow202.org
It's all fun and games until a guinea pig gets possessed by demons and attempts to burrow into your thoracic cavity and devour your internal organs. While this is a rare thing, it could happen, so I'd hope the rule-makers would take that into account to prevent lawsuits and an increase in our insurance rates.

/not entirely serious, of course.
 
2013-04-29 04:52:52 AM

another cultural observer: BarkingUnicorn: another cultural observer: BMFPitt: On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.

Hell, she'll be unable to find an apartment.  No, not because of the pet thing.  Pretext....it's a biatch.

PSA: If you're a landlord, it is a violation of tenants' civil rights to ask them to show proof that their animal is a certified, trained therapy animal.  Thanks, FHA!

There are no certifications for therapy animals.

Why not?


Same reason there are no training certifications for alcohol or weed.  Their inherent characteristics provide therapeutic effects to certain people.

Service animals such as guide dogs are trained to perform  particular acts.  Trainers may certify training to buyers, but the ADA says that others don't need to see any paperwork.  They are allowed to ask, "What services does the animal provide for you?"  But they have to be content with whatever answer they get. Such are the societal conflicts reflected in the law.  "None of your business!" "It is my business."  "OK but don't question my honesty"  Just like the drug-testing thing.

Service animals can be kicked out of public accommodations if they misbehave, i.e., shiat, growl, bite, bark, and banned from returning. IDK what the deal is with fair housing acts.
 
2013-04-29 10:02:12 AM

BarkingUnicorn: another cultural observer: BarkingUnicorn: another cultural observer: BMFPitt: On the bright side, her name will be Googled by future employers and she'll never get a job.

Unfortunately, we'll be collectively paying her bills forever.

Hell, she'll be unable to find an apartment.  No, not because of the pet thing.  Pretext....it's a biatch.

PSA: If you're a landlord, it is a violation of tenants' civil rights to ask them to show proof that their animal is a certified, trained therapy animal.  Thanks, FHA!

There are no certifications for therapy animals.

Why not?

Same reason there are no training certifications for alcohol or weed.  Their inherent characteristics provide therapeutic effects to certain people.

Service animals such as guide dogs are trained to perform  particular acts.  Trainers may certify training to buyers, but the ADA says that others don't need to see any paperwork.  They are allowed to ask, "What services does the animal provide for you?"  But they have to be content with whatever answer they get. Such are the societal conflicts reflected in the law.  "None of your business!" "It is my business."  "OK but don't question my honesty"  Just like the drug-testing thing.

Service animals can be kicked out of public accommodations if they misbehave, i.e., shiat, growl, bite, bark, and banned from returning. IDK what the deal is with fair housing acts.


I got 1,420,000 google hits for "certified therapy dog", including a news article regarding a certified therapy dog traveling to Boston to therapy the victims.

Re: FHA: Landlords are allowed to request a doctor's note stating that the potential tenant has a condition (without being specific as to the condition) for which the use of a therapy dog is helpful....but there is nothing a landlord can do, even if he KNOWS an animal isn't a therapy animal, to prevent that animal from coming in....until it bites someone, craps on a toddler, etc, which brings with it potential lawsuits, property damage, tenant flight, and more.
 
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