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(KATU)   We all like to use the word "hero", but here is a real one...fighting for his life in a hospital after saving 7 people   (katu.com ) divider line
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2013-04-28 09:55:27 AM  
3 votes:
Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please
GCD
2013-04-28 12:00:34 PM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You would think that a firefighter even a volunteer firefighter would know the damaging effects of smoke. It kills more people than the flames! Get low and cover your mouth!
Real hero stuff going for the others. But he could have done it like he was trained to.


He's NOT a volunteer firefighter, he's a Search and Rescue volunteer. Slight difference there.

Also, that being said, I hate to be a "Negative Nancy" here, but he's not going to survive. If you burn your lungs, which from the sounds of it, he did - you're usually a goner in 3-4 days. Burned lungs don't heal well at all.

And depending on the percentage of his body that is burned, he's set up for infection(s), which usually prove to be fatal.

The article doesn't say the percentage of his body that sustained burns, but typically, burns that cover 30% - 40% of the body result in death.

Look at the palm of your hand - that's considered to be roughly 1% of your skin. Doesn't take long to add up the surface area.
2013-04-28 10:57:06 AM  
2 votes:

ggecko: Actually OP, we do NOT all like to use the word "hero".  I absolutely despise when people use that word.  TRUE heroes are very few and far between and calling others heroes just diminishes it.

To me, a hero truly goes above and beyond which usually puts their life in harms way (and it is by choice, a true hero isn't just doing something to save themselves, or doing something that most anyone in the situation would do out of necessity).

I'm sorry, but just because you took a job in the armed forces, police department, etc... you are not a hero.  Maybe you did it to help others out, for patriotism, etc... and those are great reasons, but it does not automatically make you a hero.


/endrant


^^This. Former Marine here. I'm no hero. Proud, but not a hero.
2013-04-28 02:12:40 PM  
1 vote:

brimed03: Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please


This is exactly what I came in here to say. I feel bad for being so cynical, but these are the lessons the world has taught me. Sometimes people set fires so they can be a hero, sometimes nurses cause medical emergencies so they can experience the drama of a "code". These things happen. Hope that this time it's not the case and the guy gets better, but I've frequently been taught not to hope.
2013-04-28 12:13:39 PM  
1 vote:

hardinparamedic: FTFA: The volunteer with Clackamas County Search and Rescue helped seven people escape. His mom, aunt, uncle, sister, nephew and two neighbors all got away safely.

Wait. FARK tells me all the time that people like that aren't heroes, they're just "doing their job" and don't deserve special recognition!

Dicks.

Here's hoping this guy pulls through. If anyone's a hero, it's this guy. He made a decision to risk his own life, in an overwhelming degree of dangers, to sacrifice so that others may live.


What Fark tells you, if you'd care to listen, is that some people have careers which give them more opportunities to act heroically. When they do, they are just as much a hero as someone who isn't so employed. You seem to be confusing Fark with the the dipshiates who think that just because you have more opportunities to act heroically that you  automagically become one.
2013-04-28 12:12:35 PM  
1 vote:

Charlie Chingas: Still not a hero. It was his job, as was mine when I was in the Corps...


You're as Core as FLYNAVY, bro.
2013-04-28 12:07:06 PM  
1 vote:

Mock26: Yeah!  Because everyone knows that that soldier who spent his time safely at an air base predicting the weather is a hero!

Dick


One of these things is not like the other. Off-duty Firefigher who had no protective equipment choosing to disregard his own safety to save the lives of others is not the same as Rescue Randy lounging in the Station while it happens.

.Marine who jumps in a hummer and decides to re-enact a HALO level and tapdance on the head of the Talbian while saving dozens of lives is not the same as Weatherman Steve

See. If you had watched Sesame Street as a kid, instead of Bernie's Right Wing Christian Jihad hour on TBN, you'd know that.
2013-04-28 11:51:33 AM  
1 vote:
But did he throw a touchdown in the Superbowl? No? Then how can he be a hero?
2013-04-28 11:31:28 AM  
1 vote:
You would think that a firefighter even a volunteer firefighter would know the damaging effects of smoke. It kills more people than the flames! Get low and cover your mouth!
Real hero stuff going for the others. But he could have done it like he was trained to.
2013-04-28 11:17:44 AM  
1 vote:

Zeller didn't stop once everyone else was safe. He backed three cars away from the burning duplex and let his own SUV burn.



WTF? Why?

"No no no, the dryer goes on the right! Save the people and the animals, fool. We have insurance for the cars.


s3.amazonaws.com
2013-04-28 11:07:03 AM  
1 vote:

ggecko: Actually OP, we do NOT all like to use the word "hero".  I absolutely despise when people use that word.  TRUE heroes are very few and far between and calling others heroes just diminishes it.

To me, a hero truly goes above and beyond which usually puts their life in harms way (and it is by choice, a true hero isn't just doing something to save themselves, or doing something that most anyone in the situation would do out of necessity).

I'm sorry, but just because you took a job in the armed forces, police department, etc... you are not a hero.  Maybe you did it to help others out, for patriotism, etc... and those are great reasons, but it does not automatically make you a hero.


/endrant


I agree. But the guy in the article? Definite hero.
2013-04-28 11:06:15 AM  
1 vote:

leevis: "John Zeller Fire Relief Contribution Fund"

Nice of them to forget to provide a link for donations. I'm sure some farker can step up and provide it for them.


Don't worry; it's with Bank of America. Nobody will be able to touch that money anyway, and by the time they resolve their issues it will all have been consumed in usurious fees.
2013-04-28 11:04:11 AM  
1 vote:
Ummm ... maybe he shouldn't have gone back for the cars.

Hero? Yes. Smartest firefighter on the truck? No.
2013-04-28 10:53:15 AM  
1 vote:

brimed03: Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please


Yeah...

Wilcox said Zeller noticed the fire by his office in the garage. When he realized he couldn't control the flames, he focused on what he could control: saving seven people.

I think we're cynically justified in that presumption.
2013-04-28 10:49:50 AM  
1 vote:

brimed03: Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please


Sadly, I've read too many stories about volunteer firefighters convicted of arson.
2013-04-28 10:48:57 AM  
1 vote:

Charlie Chingas: I really don't understand why they call someone hero when they're doing their job. I mean, I don't call the cashier at WalMart a hero for accurately scanning my purchases...


*scratches head* the fire happened at home.
2013-04-28 10:45:45 AM  
1 vote:
lives in oregon

of all the batshiat crazy folks that live here, this guy really is a hero.  don't know him, but damn.  guy is in intensive care.  If people want to throw poop, then go ahead,  I hope you die in a fire.
(Had one start once....Keeping a cool head and thinking about what to do is priceless)
2013-04-28 10:38:55 AM  
1 vote:
You know, this is cool and all, but I've made it very clear to my family:

If this is a situation that I end up in, for the love of all things holy, do not take my picture and parade me around while I'm in a god damn coma.  Didn't South Park do something along these lines?
2013-04-28 10:35:41 AM  
1 vote:
I really don't understand why they call someone hero when they're doing their job. I mean, I don't call the cashier at WalMart a hero for accurately scanning my purchases...
2013-04-28 10:22:26 AM  
1 vote:
I'm curious about whether there were smoke detectors and would they have helped.
2013-04-28 10:17:03 AM  
1 vote:

brimed03: Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please


poe_zlaw: Was he frantically trying to save everyone because he felt bad for starting the fire?


FTA: "Zeller noticed the fire by his office in the garage."

I reckon he was futzing around in the garage and did something stupid.  Probably batted at the flames for a bit, then said, "oh, shiat" and then started getting folks out.  If he'd just started the evac immediately, he'd probably not have been burned.
2013-04-28 10:13:44 AM  
1 vote:
Somebody provide a link to where my next $100 is going. No, not you Nigerian spammers.
2013-04-28 10:11:15 AM  
1 vote:
He probably could have stopped at the humans and let the cars burn.  Sounds like he had a death wish.
2013-04-28 10:03:32 AM  
1 vote:

brimed03: Tomorrow's headline: "Hero" set the fire.

/Cynic tag please


Fire starters who want to be heroes typically don't risk themselves, that's the whole point. They WANT to be heroes, but without any real risk or damage to themselves (or loss of property that's not insured).  Everything here seems believable on its face. /shrug

That being said, hope he makes a full recovery.
2013-04-28 10:03:02 AM  
1 vote:
Was he frantically trying to save everyone because he felt bad for starting the fire?
2013-04-28 10:00:15 AM  
1 vote:
Customary: Not sure how he could save seven people from a fire dragging those brass ones around, etc...
2013-04-28 09:56:25 AM  
1 vote:
Wilcox said Zeller noticed the fire by his office in the garage. When he realized he couldn't control the flames, he focused on what he could control: saving seven people.

"He basically got everybody out. Woke everybody up, running around," Wilcox said. "He was using a lot of adrenaline and inhaling a lot of smoke and at one point he just collapsed."

Zeller didn't stop once everyone else was safe. He backed three cars away from the burning duplex and let his own SUV burn.


/A selfless act, giving all he had, to save the ones he loved. Hero indeed. Thank you Sir, it is acts like this that restore my faith in the inherent good in people. I wish you a speedy recovery.

Please if you can donate, even a little farkers, do so. It's people like this that need Fark to help them make it.

/raises a glass with all the other Farkers in admiration of this Hero.
//Who's with me?
2013-04-28 09:15:53 AM  
1 vote:
FTFA: The volunteer with Clackamas County Search and Rescue helped seven people escape. His mom, aunt, uncle, sister, nephew and two neighbors all got away safely.

Wait. FARK tells me all the time that people like that aren't heroes, they're just "doing their job" and don't deserve special recognition!

Dicks.

Here's hoping this guy pulls through. If anyone's a hero, it's this guy. He made a decision to risk his own life, in an overwhelming degree of dangers, to sacrifice so that others may live.
 
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