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2013-04-28 02:54:32 AM

Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)


They can't force American consumers' demand for the Paralympics into existence. As amazing as those athletes are, their games will be the Kwanzaa to the regular Olympics' Christmas for the foreseeable future.
 
HBK
2013-04-28 02:56:26 AM
Hell yeah! Tulsa's gonna give Omaha a run for its money.
 
2013-04-28 02:57:14 AM

ongbok: johne3819: ongbok: HotWingAgenda: The next American summer olympics should be somewhere in the Pac NW.

It should have been Chicago, but since a certain group of Americans was so dead set on submarineing Chicago's bid just to stick it to a certain politician, it didn't happen.

There wasn't a very strong desire from the people, at least those I spoke with.  Most of us were kinda like 'there might be an economic boost, but it's not certain'  to 'man, it's gonna sucks to go to work during that shiat!'

Of course the Star Trek Voyager fans did want to stick it to Gov. Ryan.

So you don't think the fact that the Republicans made it a talking point against Obama that he was trying to bring the Olympics to Chicago in the presidential campaign was a factor in the IOC's decision?

Just the point that the Republicans considered Chicago losing the bid as a victory for them probably doomed any chances in the near future that another U.S city gets the bid.


I absolutely do think it was a factor.  I think your sarcasmetron 2000 or my delivery need a little tuning.
 
2013-04-28 02:58:36 AM

Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)



Haven't the Paralympics been in Oklahoma for a while now?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-28 03:00:54 AM

FizixJunkee: Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)


Haven't the Paralympics been in Oklahoma for a while now?

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I think the girl on the left is flashing gang signs.  And stop posting the OKC PTA pics!

/Aisle seat please!
 
2013-04-28 03:00:58 AM

HBK: Hell yeah! Tulsa's gonna give Omaha a run for its money.


hey omaha has had the college world series of baseball dont be too harsh on omaha
 
2013-04-28 03:12:14 AM
Take me back to Tulsa
I'm too young to marry
 
2013-04-28 03:14:00 AM
HotWingAgenda: The next American summer olympics should be somewhere in the Pac NW.

Can't happen. The IOC requires too much spending and too much control over speech for it to work in the Pacific NW. The State of Washington has the added burden of the Olympic Mountains. The IOC doesn't like anyone else using any variation of the name Olympics. They require host governments to legally force anyone using anything related to Olympics and their symbols to change. That's simply not a possibility in Washington.

Vancouver had enough black bloc and finance problems with the much smaller Winter Olympics. No way they'll be able to do the Summer Olympics. As I mentioned, Washington is out. That leaves Oregon, meaning Portland. While I'm sure the business community would cream all over themselves at the mere thought of hosting the summer games, I can't see the people of Portland handing over their free speech rights to an international corporate festival much less spending the required money for facilities and infrastructure.

Too bad though because much of the NW is beautiful and comfortable in the summer. It'd make a great location for the games but it simply isn't viable given the IOC's demands.

/Use to work for the IOC's marketing arm
 
2013-04-28 03:19:00 AM

FizixJunkee: Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)


Haven't the Paralympics been in Oklahoma for a while now?

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 850x436]


These mofos will have the BEST party...
 
2013-04-28 03:21:25 AM
Tulsa strikes me as somewhat similar to Boise.  Little more than an overgrown big town with overblown aspirations of being a big city.  Sure the population base is there but the mentality isn't.
 
2013-04-28 03:25:16 AM
Who wouldn't want to go see a 900 foot Jesus?
 
2013-04-28 03:29:45 AM

squibbits: Just keep that crap the hell away from Portland Oregon.


You don't have anything to worry about. Portland is about as likely as Tehran.

Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).


That certainly wasn't the case when I worked for them. Also the USOC has very little power when it comes to coverage. The IOC awards the tv rights, not the USOC. And they keep awarding them to NBC so they're quite familiar with what NBC will and will not feature. If they want to promote the Paralympic Games, they need to put that requirement in the contract with NBC. Hairy eyeballs at the USOC will do nothing since they're not part of the loop.

thisispete: It would be nice to see it go to Nairobi or Durban, if they can put together an attractive bid. The Olympics have never been in Africa, and a lot of champion athletes come from there.


The IOC would love to have the games in Africa. Rio is a big gamble and if it goes well, it'll make things much more likely for other countries in the southern hemisphere not named Australia. My guess is that they'd prefer Nairobi over cities in South Africa though Kenya is further away from having the resources to host the games. If I remember correctly, Kenya has long term plans for a bid if they gain developed nation status in the next twenty years like predicted. Who knows, by then Nairobi might be the jewel of the East African Federation.

/Smitty, you have something against Squaw Valley and Lake Placid?
 
2013-04-28 03:30:53 AM

EngineerAU: Can't happen.


Not quoting the rest of that for the sake of brevity, but I really appreciate the thought-out response.  That made a lot of sense.
 
2013-04-28 04:09:34 AM
Oklahoma? OK.

/not really
 
2013-04-28 04:18:05 AM

EngineerAU: The State of Washington has the added burden of the Olympic Mountains. The IOC doesn't like anyone else using any variation of the name Olympics. They require host governments to legally force anyone using anything related to Olympics and their symbols to change. That's simply not a possibility in Washington.


Oh, come on. They're hardly going to expect something which has been named the Olympic Mountains since well before the 1860s (and officially named such since 1864) to change its name. Especially given that it isn't in reference to the Olympics, but to Mount Olympus, named thus since 1788.

Care to cite a past example of the IOC requiring a name change for a natural landmark whose name predates the establishment of the modern Olympic Games and the IOC itself by several decades?
 
2013-04-28 04:28:49 AM

gweilo8888: EngineerAU: The State of Washington has the added burden of the Olympic Mountains. The IOC doesn't like anyone else using any variation of the name Olympics. They require host governments to legally force anyone using anything related to Olympics and their symbols to change. That's simply not a possibility in Washington.

Oh, come on. They're hardly going to expect something which has been named the Olympic Mountains since well before the 1860s (and officially named such since 1864) to change its name. Especially given that it isn't in reference to the Olympics, but to Mount Olympus, named thus since 1788.

Care to cite a past example of the IOC requiring a name change for a natural landmark whose name predates the establishment of the modern Olympic Games and the IOC itself by several decades?


Natural landmark, no. Businesses named after that natural landmark, even ones long established? The IOC will try to force every single one to change their name.

The IOC often reaches epic levels of douchebaggery though, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if they DID try to force a change in the name of the mountain range, or demand that, during the event, nobody refer to them by that name.
 
2013-04-28 04:32:55 AM

iron_city_ap: I understand how its horrible for a big city, and good for a smaller one, but, the IOC wants quality hookers, overly pretensious hotels and highly overrated food on a scale smaller cities can't provide.


Tulsa night life: filth, gin, a slut.
 
2013-04-28 05:11:27 AM
If they don't get the nomination, will they steal it away in the middle of the night from the city that does?
 
2013-04-28 05:13:58 AM
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Tulsa Oktoberfest Ist...

wun-der-bar!

/wait, what were we talking about?
 
2013-04-28 05:38:42 AM

SomeoneDumb: If they don't get the nomination, will they steal it away in the middle of the night from the city that does?


I understand that reference.
 
2013-04-28 06:20:47 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)

They can't force American consumers' demand for the Paralympics into existence. As amazing as those athletes are, their games will be the Kwanzaa to the regular Olympics' Christmas for the foreseeable future.


Exactly. The media doesn't give a shiat about what they air. In fact they would air a 24 hour block of dogs eating each other's shiat if they thought people would watch it. If people wanted to watch the Paralympics, they'd show them, but since they don't get good numbers when it is shown, they're not going to move it from the less popular channels up into more popular ones. The networks don't want to air stuff they won't make money off of.
 
2013-04-28 07:16:33 AM

FizixJunkee: SomeoneDumb: If they don't get the nomination, will they steal it away in the middle of the night from the city that does?

I understand that reference.


Nothing is obscure on Fark
 
2013-04-28 07:33:54 AM
I just got off from three days of ten hour shifts dealing with drunk cowboys with baby bull testicles and beer breath. You don't want to come here. I promise it's not cool at all. Totally have that somewhere else.
 
2013-04-28 07:35:57 AM
Give the games to Taiwan.
 
2013-04-28 07:54:35 AM
The Olympics brought to you by Wal*Mart.

(Bentonville is just 50 miles away)
 
2013-04-28 08:22:39 AM
Was there a basketball game in OKC during the same time?
 
2013-04-28 08:23:39 AM

Allen. The end.: Meh - you want to ruin a city? Bring in the Olympics...


That or do like Atlanta and privatize the hell out of it.
 
2013-04-28 08:26:57 AM

germ78: I'm not sure if they can out-corrupt the other cities involved. I don't think they have enough suitcases of cash and top-shelf hookers to persuade the IOC. Chicago gave it their best shot and got shut down cold, and they're corrupt as a motherfarker.


Yeah but they lost to Rio.

And if anyone can out-corrupt Chicago...it's Rio.
 
2013-04-28 08:28:54 AM

HotWingAgenda: St Louis is like right f*cking next to Chicago. There's no reason to give Illinois two olympic games.


Last time I checked, I wasn't in Illinois.
 
2013-04-28 08:33:09 AM

Mark Ratner: St. Louis hosted it over 100 years ago, and back then, the Olympics were kind of a joke. Google it and you'll see.


And the biggest irony in this is that the only reason we hosted it back in 1904 was because we were having the World's Fair here at the same time and so the IOC moved it from Chicago (where it was originally planned to be held) to St. Louis.

Probably the only time St. Louis took something from Chicago instead of the other way around.
 
2013-04-28 08:55:05 AM

Death Eats a Cracker: Done in one.

/Tulsa resident
//well, Bixby actually but who's heard of Bixby?


Usually only those who've already been Jenksed.
 
2013-04-28 09:00:19 AM

Mrtraveler01: Allen. The end.: Meh - you want to ruin a city? Bring in the Olympics...

That or do like Atlanta and privatize the hell out of it.


Which really pissed off the IOC, they weren't too keen on the amount of corporate sponsors branding everything in the city that was not an Olympic venue.  Hell Coke was painting the streets.
 
2013-04-28 09:09:44 AM

Swoop1809: The Olympic Committee requested that Columbus OH put in a bid for the games. As a resident, I say "AWWW HELL NAW!".

The only possible benefit Columbus would have would be the need to install a real public transit system. If we could somehow get one of those, and I could be on vacation for a month during the games I say go for it. Maybe it would be an excuse to get the Columbus Crew a new stadium that they sorely need (the goddamn scoreboard caught on fire tonight)


I really liked the idea for a Tri-State bid for the summer games.. spread between Louisville, Lexington, Cincy, and Indianapolis. I read the whole plan... and I really think it had merit.

Its not like specific events have never been 100 miles from each other before, and it lessens the negative economic slam while still allowing each area to showcase itself.

/never happen.. makes too much sense.
 
2013-04-28 09:48:39 AM
Can I get a 'shop of Usain Bolt trying to outrun a tornado?  That's what I'm picturing when I think of the Olympics in Tulsa.
 
2013-04-28 09:54:38 AM
Yep, late July-early August is the perfect time to run a marathon in Tulsa.
 
2013-04-28 10:02:03 AM
fark it, send the games to Detroit!
 
2013-04-28 10:11:16 AM
They could make palm tree chopping a special event. The record is 87 years.
 
2013-04-28 10:14:29 AM
They are completely unprepared to host an event of that magnitude.

Who the hell do they think they are... Qatar?
 
2013-04-28 10:25:08 AM
Better Tulsa than Boston. The last thing I want to see is Boston spend billions on the Olympics when there are other needs that should be addressed first.
 
2013-04-28 10:26:00 AM
Buoyed by its success hosting a major fishing tournament this winter, Oklahoma's second-largest city is now dreaming of something faster, higher, stronger: the 2024 Summer Olympics.

Because those two things are so comparable.
 
2013-04-28 10:30:01 AM
 
2013-04-28 11:20:49 AM

Mrtraveler01: That or do like Atlanta and privatize the hell out of it.


You can't now.

After Atlanta, the IOC changed the rules. You can't have a ringfenced private company doing it now, because such a company will do sensible things, like think about how to use the stadia afterwards, and therefore make less extravagant shiat.

It's why every games since Atlanta has been a huge money sink.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-04-28 11:33:40 AM

desertgeek: As for Tulsa, I can think of 10 US cities better equipped to host a Summer Olympics without mentioning LA, Chicago, NYC or Atlanta


There are at least 8 cities in Oklahoma better suited to host the Olympics than Tulsa. And that list includes Coalgate and Slapout.
 
2013-04-28 12:11:07 PM

squibbits: Just keep that crap the hell away from Portland Oregon.


Ditto x 3 - keep that shiat out of America altogether.
 
2013-04-28 12:15:09 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Honestly, it's going to be doubtful that the US gets ANY Olympic bids until they actually start treating the Paralympics with general parity in promotion (including primetime TV coverage on non-cable networks)--the IOC HAS actually not only been giving the USOC some very hairy eyeballs about it but even some nastygrams (particularly with the Paralympics in 2012 being all but nonexistent on US television and effectively only available via quasi-legal streaming from overseas national broadcasters).

And yes, the IOC is actually starting to get serious about the whole "OK, guys, just because the guys running may have Legs of Technological Origin or may be in a custom wheelchair does NOT mean you get to demote them to the Ocho" thing...in fact, I actually seem to remember reading in 2012 that the USOC WAS threatened with not having another Olympics in the US until they started treating the Paralympics like the Olympics Proper in all things merchandising and televising.  (Seem to remember reading that mentioned by a Farker who follows this even more closely than I do.)

/though I'll admit I am following the Paralympics stuff as one of the Henryville survivors (who got her legs eaten by the tornado) is working towards being on the Paralympics team
//srsly, they train just as hard and should also be given respect and the Paralympics shouldn't be dismissed as the Gimp Olympics (like the US media seems to want to do)


"Legs of Technological Origin" would make a great Fark handle.
 
2013-04-28 12:25:12 PM
Hahaahahaha. Oh god, that's hilarious.
The meth capital of the US hosting the Olympics.
Although, maybe they can host some events at the various megachurches or absurdly large highschool football stadiums.

fark this town.
 
2013-04-28 12:37:07 PM
iron_city_ap:

I understand how its horrible for a big city, and good for a smaller one, but, the IOC wants quality hookers, overly pretentious hotels and highly overrated food on a scale smaller cities can't provide.

Hmmm. Rochester NY has the hotels and food, and a bunch of stadiums to boot (especially if you include the colleges). We could probably import the hookers, blow won't be a problem.

Garbage plates for everyone!
 
2013-04-28 12:42:56 PM

germ78: I'm not sure if they can out-corrupt the other cities involved. I don't think they have enough suitcases of cash and top-shelf hookers to persuade the IOC. Chicago gave it their best shot and got shut down cold, and they're corrupt as a motherfarker.


Judging by some of the mugshots of arrested prostitutes, they definitely have a long way to go.  And although when I had to work in the Tulsa area I liked some of the small scale mom and pop restaurants and tried to stay away from the big chains, the smell was atrocious.

/could always take the IOC on a tour of the town, just don't take them over on the west side of US 75 might not make it back without someone car jacking them.
 
2013-04-28 12:49:14 PM

EngineerAU: That leaves Oregon, meaning Portland. While I'm sure the business community would cream all over themselves at the mere thought of hosting the summer games, I can't see the people of Portland handing over their free speech rights to an international corporate festival much less spending the required money for facilities and infrastructure.


Portland was asked a month or two again and almost immediately responded, "Thanks, but no thanks."
 
2013-04-28 12:53:23 PM

Death Eats a Cracker: Done in one.

/Tulsa resident
//well, Bixby actually but who's heard of Bixby?


raises hand
/lives in Broken Arrow
 
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