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2013-04-28 09:54:26 AM

namatad: lol
and yah, they dont actually think that they are lying.


If a person thinks what s/he says is true, but it is not in fact true, s/he is not lying, but mistaken.
 
2013-04-28 09:56:54 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: and he did more than Obama did for standing with American Muslims after 9/11,


To be fair, Obama was not president of the United States in the relevant time frame.
 
2013-04-28 10:00:32 AM

gaspode: Who the hell ever called shrub a racist?

The list of terrible things he is and has done is huge, we don't need to add that. Other members of his Administration covered the racist angle well enough for the base.


You have a short memory. Lots of people were calling him racist www.willisms.com
 
2013-04-28 10:02:35 AM

machoprogrammer: gaspode: Who the hell ever called shrub a racist?

The list of terrible things he is and has done is huge, we don't need to add that. Other members of his Administration covered the racist angle well enough for the base.

You have a short memory. Lots of people were calling him racist [www.willisms.com image 358x293]


Did anyone who wasn't a moron say Bush was racist?
 
2013-04-28 10:02:55 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Got one elected president, for starters.



I am madly in love with you.
 
2013-04-28 10:04:25 AM

dookdookdook: Mentat: I never thought he was racist. He's probably one of the nicest, most likable Presidents we've ever had. He just happened to be a moron that allowed psychopaths to run his Administration.

This.


Don't know about likable and nice, but certainly not a racist troglodyte. But the company he kept was certainly repugnant. Any one of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove  would be enough for me to be appalled by him; giving all three of them power was very bad.
 
2013-04-28 10:09:17 AM
Top accomplishments by the Bush II administration:

1. AIDS in Africa program
2. Washington DC book festival

...

that's pretty much it.
 
2013-04-28 10:16:16 AM

Alphax: Yeah, I don't think it was that he didn't care about black people.  He just didn't care about ANY people.


I always got the sense that he liked people he knew, didn't like people he didn't know, but was unable to tell whether a person was fundamentally good or bad.
 
2013-04-28 10:17:37 AM

Mrtraveler01: machoprogrammer: gaspode: Who the hell ever called shrub a racist?

The list of terrible things he is and has done is huge, we don't need to add that. Other members of his Administration covered the racist angle well enough for the base.

You have a short memory. Lots of people were calling him racist [www.willisms.com image 358x293]

Did anyone who wasn't a moron say Bush was racist?


Do Farkers during 01-08 count? Or is anyone in the Fark Democrat Brigade automatically considered morons?
 
2013-04-28 10:25:00 AM

machoprogrammer: Mrtraveler01: machoprogrammer: gaspode: Who the hell ever called shrub a racist?

The list of terrible things he is and has done is huge, we don't need to add that. Other members of his Administration covered the racist angle well enough for the base.

You have a short memory. Lots of people were calling him racist [www.willisms.com image 358x293]

Did anyone who wasn't a moron say Bush was racist?

Do Farkers during 01-08 count? Or is anyone in the Fark Democrat Brigade automatically considered morons?


I dunno if I'm part of this but I know Bush wasn't a racist.

He just put a terribly inept man in charge of FEMA just because he's bros with Bush.

Is that better?
 
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2013-04-28 10:32:59 AM

Poorlytoldjoke: If just through his administrations work on Aids in Africa,  I would bet that it's close.  I'm liberal as hell,  but he certainly did more for the aids crisis in africa than any other president has.



We helped them over there so we wouldn't have to help them here.
 
2013-04-28 10:34:33 AM
So "conservatives" are pro-increased foreign aid...I'll make a note of that.
 
2013-04-28 10:43:44 AM

Radioactive Ass: namatad: log_jammin: namatad: the scientist in me sees missing data and wonders what the numbers were.

www.annals.org/content/150/10/688.abstract?ijkey=ba28ba16ec4572e1ed2 3b 2787409c881aa7bbdb1&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

the study the article was based on.

Look, the abstinence thing was stupid. Could it have been better? of course. But the simple fact is, the program helped.

But
My point is still not answered, nor do I think the study estimated how many new people were infected because condoms, which used to be available, became unavailable.

An additional point, which is such an amazing lie with numbers, is:
How many people died during the period? Was the death rate still rising? What was the total number of infected?

A) condoms only - X people did not get infected
B) treatment only - Y people didnt die
C) both - Some number greater than Y

/yes of course it was nice to give the drug companies billions of dollars to save a 1 million people.
/whoops, we could have saved money and bought generics?
/what is the current status in africa? have they turned the corner or is HIV still out of control?

Oooooh. The Butthurt is strong in this one.

By a measurement over the same time period between countries that got the same medical attention as they had before Bush's program and ones that got Bush's program, AIDS deaths dropped 10% in the countries that used Bush's programs. Therefore Bush's programs were bad because [Derp].

Were Bush's programs not perfect? Sure. Were they better than what was the norm? Yes. You are advocating going back to the norm and letting a few million people die for your own political points.

How do you sleep at night knowing that dead black and brown people are less important to you than you making cheap political points on a pointless internet forum? Farking sociopath.


Deaths drop with medicine. Duh.

But taking a decade off from pushing condoms on the assbackwards people (no it isn't all africans) who believe all sorts of witchdoctery shiat about them may have caused more harm.

It isn't political to say that. Further, there is nothing wrong with criticizing the religious angle of the funding.

This is hardly the first time the first world did a crappy job interfering with the third. Putting mosquito net makers and farmers out of business while temporarily sustaining a population growing beyond its means comes to mind and liberal folk were all about that at the time.

I don't begrudge Bush for trying though.
 
2013-04-28 11:01:24 AM
They're really hitting the white-washing of Bush's presidency hard this week.  I guess for a brief time surrounding his presidential library opening, Bush isn't retroactively considered a seekrit librul.  I'm sure they'll revert back to that strategy the moment the spotlight is taken back off of him, though.
 
2013-04-28 11:03:50 AM
George W Bush has saved more lives and done more for blacks than any other president in History, says... Fringe-Left-Wing Author Fox News Contributor Ellen Ratner
 
2013-04-28 11:19:48 AM

Mrtraveler01: machoprogrammer: Mrtraveler01: machoprogrammer: gaspode: Who the hell ever called shrub a racist?

The list of terrible things he is and has done is huge, we don't need to add that. Other members of his Administration covered the racist angle well enough for the base.

You have a short memory. Lots of people were calling him racist [www.willisms.com image 358x293]

Did anyone who wasn't a moron say Bush was racist?

Do Farkers during 01-08 count? Or is anyone in the Fark Democrat Brigade automatically considered morons?

I dunno if I'm part of this but I know Bush wasn't a racist.

He just put a terribly inept man in charge of FEMA just because he's bros with Bush.

Is that better?


I won't argue that, but back in 04-08, there was a ton of Farkers calling him racist.
 
2013-04-28 11:34:57 AM

namatad: Poorlytoldjoke: If just through his administrations work on Aids in Africa,  I would bet that it's close.  I'm liberal as hell,  but he certainly did more for the aids crisis in africa than any other president has.

WHAT THE FARK ARE YOU MORANS TALKING ABOUT??????
Have you all gone insane? Are you all mayflies?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/aug/30/usa.aids
"said US cuts in funding for condoms and an emphasis on promoting abstinence had contributed to a shortage of condoms in Uganda, one of the few African countries which has succeeded in reducing its infection rate. "
"Meanwhile, religious groups that oppose condom use are receiving an increased share of funding, "

In what universe was this helpful?


/is this some new troll meme or are people just buying the "altered version of history?"


You know, I don't really know much about Bush's AIDS program, but reading through this all I can think is '...wait, isn't that the program that got rid of condoms because jebus?'.
 
2013-04-28 12:01:19 PM

cman: I never understood why people thought he was racist.

Bush JR was a lot of things (a drunk, a moron, a fake accent guy), but racist wasn't one of them.


When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice, there's going to be some butthurt that needs spread around. Calling him a racist makes them feel better about their own KKK heritage.

If a dunce outsmarts a man, what does that make the man who was outsmarted?
 
2013-04-28 12:09:17 PM

Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice


I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?
 
2013-04-28 12:17:34 PM

Mentat: cman: I never understood why people thought he was racist.

Bush JR was a lot of things (a drunk, a moron, a fake accent guy), but racist wasn't one of them.

I never thought he was racist.  He's probably one of the nicest, most likable Presidents we've ever had.  He just happened to be a moron that allowed psychopaths to run his Administration.


And the butthurt is still strong. Libbies were handed their collective asses in two national elections by a moron. Nine years after the last round, Libtards are still feeling a little stupider than a moron.
 
2013-04-28 12:19:46 PM

Tumunga: Mentat: cman: I never understood why people thought he was racist.

Bush JR was a lot of things (a drunk, a moron, a fake accent guy), but racist wasn't one of them.

I never thought he was racist.  He's probably one of the nicest, most likable Presidents we've ever had.  He just happened to be a moron that allowed psychopaths to run his Administration.

And the butthurt is still strong. Libbies were handed their collective asses in two national elections by a moron. Nine years after the last round, Libtards are still feeling a little stupider than a moron.


We were ALL handed our collective asses, fool.  Trillions of dollars went right down the drain.
 
2013-04-28 12:21:54 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?


You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-28 12:22:54 PM
Dubya Weekend continues...

He's still one of the worst presidents the US has had for a while..
This one act of beneficence is questionable in effectiveness, yet his many terrible deeds are not.

It's too early to Reaganize him to sainthood, too many people still remember his true legacy.
 
2013-04-28 12:23:28 PM

Tumunga: If a dunce outsmarts a man, what does that make the man who was outsmarted?


I'm more curious about the dunce's hardcore fans.
 
2013-04-28 12:25:37 PM

thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]


He's a troll account.  One of the few that was actually offensive enough to put on ignore.
 
2013-04-28 12:34:57 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?


Your. Collective. Asses.
 
2013-04-28 12:37:38 PM

Satanic_Hamster: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]

He's a troll account.  One of the few that was actually offensive enough to put on ignore.


Nope. Not a troll account.
 
2013-04-28 12:38:57 PM

thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]


That's neat. How did you do that?
 
2013-04-28 12:45:04 PM
 Being news busters I imagine the argument is something along the lines of "bush worked tirelessly to help the bussiness community, which trickled down to the blacks.
Or some other such nonsense.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-04-28 12:45:54 PM

Tumunga: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]

That's neat. How did you do that?


I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.
 
2013-04-28 01:00:40 PM

clambam: Mussolini made the trains run on time.


This'll larn ya to believe a Fascist.
 
2013-04-28 01:06:35 PM

thamike: Tumunga: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]

That's neat. How did you do that?

I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.


By phuqheaded, do you mean I knocked your mo....oh well, nevermind. I know when I'm licked, IF you know what I mean, you cute bastard you.
 
2013-04-28 01:12:16 PM

Tumunga: thamike: Tumunga: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]

That's neat. How did you do that?

I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.

By phuqheaded, do you mean I knocked your mo....oh well, nevermind. I know when I'm licked, IF you know what I mean, you cute bastard you.


Reading your posts in this thread, I have to ask you , are you having a stroke? The grammar is a confusing mess.
 
2013-04-28 01:14:13 PM
Tumunga:thamike:


I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.

By phuqheaded, do you mean I knocked your mo....oh well, nevermind. I know when I'm licked, IF you know what I mean, you cute bastard you.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-28 01:17:19 PM

Ishkur: randomjsa: 1 billion in AIDS help to Africa. Your response sir or madam?

That's not helping poor people, that's keeping them alive so they can continue slaving for rich multinationals.

There was a cost-benefit to everything he did for the underclasses (ie: increase low income home ownership to fuel another financial speculation bubble).


You are no better than Alex Jones and his ilk.  They can at least string together some idiotic "facts" and connect them, however tenuously, to their conspiracy.  As far as I can tell you just pulled that out of your arsehole, because Bush= Bad.
 
2013-04-28 01:27:56 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone thinks the Africa AIDS thing was a good idea.  The US sends a bunch of AIDS drugs to African nations, and tada, fewer people die as a result of AIDS (science does work).  Nice, except they aren't cured; their life now depends on the generosity of the US government.  As a bonus, infection rates go up, because condoms are obviously evil and no-one should have them.  It's OK, though, because as long as the US keeps spending money, the death rate from AIDS will stay down.  You might want to spend some brain-power on considering what happens when you guys stop sending the cheques.  I can't say you've made things obviously better.

Cheers.

//And on the subject of Bush's legacy towards African-Americans, consider the US military's make-up and what went on under his watch.
 
2013-04-28 01:37:15 PM
People never farking learn from their mistakes, they're already rewriting the Bush years. Yes, he did good in Africa. Everything else was an orgy of war, torture, and death. No, he wasn't a good man underneath
 
2013-04-28 01:48:43 PM
Really, Farkers, PEPFAR?  Yeah, didn't acknowledge rubbers.  Half credit for Dubya.
 
2013-04-28 01:56:27 PM

raatz01: People never farking learn from their mistakes, they're already rewriting the Bush years. Yes, he did good in Africa. Everything else was an orgy of war, torture, and death. No, he wasn't a good man underneath


Can we get one of these made for Mr.Bush?

www.socialistviewpoint.org
 
2013-04-28 01:58:49 PM

JH3675: You are no better than Alex Jones and his ilk. They can at least string together some idiotic "facts" and connect them, however tenuously, to their conspiracy. As far as I can tell you just pulled that out of your arsehole, because Bush= Bad.


You want Bush to be praised for helping poor people? How about education -- how many high schools did he build for disadvantaged youth? Did he freeze/lower/waive tuition rates? Did he increase literacy levels, math and science tests, learning programs, access to quality teachers and equipment, courses, classrooms, environment and degrees? How much money did he spend on improving education conditions for the lower classes? No Child Left Behind was a complete failure. All of these things got worse under his administration. And Education is probably the most important thing you can do for poverty. But hey, he gave money to fight AIDS in Africa. You know what also fights AIDS? EDUCATION.

How about food? Did Bush push for healthier food programs for low income people? Did he try and stock their fridges full of real fruits and vegetables? Did he advocate more awareness programs and healthier eating and diets? Or did he just sign another Farm Bill to stuff them full of salt, grease, sugar, and liquid corn for the rest of their lives?

How about civil infrastructure? Did Bush ever do anything f.... oh never mind.
 
2013-04-28 02:27:53 PM
img2.timeinc.net
The head of the GOP minority outreach initiative agrees.
 
2013-04-28 03:05:55 PM

Raharu: raatz01: People never farking learn from their mistakes, they're already rewriting the Bush years. Yes, he did good in Africa. Everything else was an orgy of war, torture, and death. No, he wasn't a good man underneath

Can we get one of these made for Mr.Bush?

[www.socialistviewpoint.org image 500x686]


One could be made for every president from Truman on. But Bush and Carter are probably the least "favorite" amongst ex-presidents, so those two would be hardest to do
 
2013-04-28 03:20:43 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Got one elected president, for starters.



yea, and he's still not over it yet.
 
2013-04-28 03:21:56 PM

Alphax: cman: I never understood why people thought he was racist.

Bush JR was a lot of things (a drunk, a moron, a fake accent guy), but racist wasn't one of them.

Yeah, I don't think it was that he didn't care about black people.  He just didn't care about ANY people.



unless they are his people.  the richies that he grew up with and hang with.
 
2013-04-28 03:37:01 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-28 03:39:47 PM
LMAO - Bush is out of office, so now the liberals Farkers are going to pretend they didn't dance around and proudly proclaim him a racist for the past decade.  You guys realize this is the internet, right?  Everything is cached and we have search engines.

/Ah, hell - go ahead and rewrite history.  At least your current revision is right.
 
2013-04-28 03:41:39 PM

LucklessWonder: Tumunga: thamike: Tumunga: thamike: Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?

You aren't talking to one of the most aware people around.  For example:

[i915.photobucket.com image 850x614]

That's neat. How did you do that?

I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.

By phuqheaded, do you mean I knocked your mo....oh well, nevermind. I know when I'm licked, IF you know what I mean, you cute bastard you.

Reading your posts in this thread, I have to ask you , are you having a stroke? The grammar is a confusing mess.


I can't feel my ass, and my mouth is all go-funny.
 
2013-04-28 03:42:27 PM

thamike: Tumunga:thamike:


I edited the non-related comments in between my post, and your f*ckheaded reply.  With sorcery.

By phuqheaded, do you mean I knocked your mo....oh well, nevermind. I know when I'm licked, IF you know what I mean, you cute bastard you.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 315x315]


Mom?!?
 
2013-04-28 03:46:34 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Tumunga: When a man, labeled a dunce, outsmarts and hands the Libtards their collective asses not once, but twice

I believe it was the Supreme Court that appointed him president the first time.  The second time it was morons in the voting booth that did the trick, combined with a Dem candidate that was about as exciting as wet paint.

Starting not one, but two land wars in Asia is a real clue as to the man's intelligence.  How many trillions did those debacles cost us?


To be fair, the first of those land wars was pretty well justified. I mean, the Taliban was harboring OBL and the other Al Qaeda dudes. Sure, it was handled poorly and Iraq was obviously a clusterfark (putting it lightly), but the war had international support and something like 95% of the population supported it. Or is this where you pretend you and all the other Democrats were always against it?
 
2013-04-28 04:14:47 PM

Ishkur: JH3675: You are no better than Alex Jones and his ilk. They can at least string together some idiotic "facts" and connect them, however tenuously, to their conspiracy. As far as I can tell you just pulled that out of your arsehole, because Bush= Bad.

You want Bush to be praised for helping poor people? How about education -- how many high schools did he build for disadvantaged youth? Did he freeze/lower/waive tuition rates? Did he increase literacy levels, math and science tests, learning programs, access to quality teachers and equipment, courses, classrooms, environment and degrees? How much money did he spend on improving education conditions for the lower classes? No Child Left Behind was a complete failure. All of these things got worse under his administration. And Education is probably the most important thing you can do for poverty. But hey, he gave money to fight AIDS in Africa. You know what also fights AIDS? EDUCATION.

How about food? Did Bush push for healthier food programs for low income people? Did he try and stock their fridges full of real fruits and vegetables? Did he advocate more awareness programs and healthier eating and diets? Or did he just sign another Farm Bill to stuff them full of salt, grease, sugar, and liquid corn for the rest of their lives?

How about civil infrastructure? Did Bush ever do anything f.... oh never mind.


While all of this is true, there is a rather large gap between the questions you asked and an answer like "Obviously he sees the poor as slaves and it was worth the money to provide AIDS medication in order to keep the labor pool full for the evil corporations."  Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

/ As an aside, you would be amazed how many of my fundy friends are going the home school route because they don't agree with, among other things, teaching to the test.  You would most likely not be amazed that none of them have made the connection between that and No Child Left Behind.
// I also never said he should be praised for anything.  Just because someone disagrees with you does not mean that they hold beliefs 180 degrees from your own.
 
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