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2013-04-28 12:11:08 AM

BarkingUnicorn: A patriarchal society places higher value on heterosexuality in men than it places on heterosexuality in women because women are less important than men.


0/10, didn't get any bites... but I LOL'd.

t3knomanser:
....
Height is a wonderful attribute, as it follows a standard distribution. It's the classic bell curve. If you plot all humanity on a bell curve for height, you're going to get a peak at around 5'4". 95% of human beings are between 3'4" and 6'2". ....


tl;dr

Nutshell: Average height for American women, 5'4"-5'5", American men, 5'10". Different in other countries, but men are always taller than women by a few inches.

So what does that mean, other than that men are superior/dominant? Nothing really, except for women's height fetish, which puts certain guys who are 5'8" at a definite disadvantage.

/biatches
 
2013-04-28 12:11:31 AM
On a lark, some friends and I walked into a porn shop. The group was about even, male/female. This was way back in college, and we had the "experimenting" guy with us, along with the dude who would eventually pop his cherry that weekend. Myself and most of the others started cruising the normal videos: teen, mature, boobies, etc. took most of us a second to notice "Dave" and his soon to be bf were transfixed by the display behind the counter: 3 guys, all muscled up, going at it. Dave's mouth was open, complete slack jaw. "Tim" was rapt, breathing heavily, and glancing at Dave periodically, as if to judge his reaction. One of the girls went over and started watching too. Myself and the other guys, being hetero, took one look at what was on the screen and called it a day. That was the first and last time I will ever look at gay porn. That image is burned into my brain for all time. MANY kittens died that night, I can tell you.
say what you will, I believe the gay population find hetero sex just as revolting as we heteros find gay porn revolting, that being the same sex as the person(s) watching. This has been backed up by several friends saying just that when asked the question.
 
2013-04-28 12:12:31 AM

Fano: Coco LaFemme: BTW, can someone explain to me what this crap is about how all heterosexual women are secretly interested in getting it on with another woman.  I'm a heterosexual woman, and I have never  in my life thought about having sex with another woman.  I don't get that shiat.  Not the two women having sex bit, the other part.  A few weeks ago my boyfriend and I were at a dinner party some mutual friends were throwing and the female half of that couple is bisexual and she asked me if I ever experimented with women in college, and I just gave her a funny look and said, "Fark no, I'm straight."  She seemed honestly perplexed by my answer.  She was like, "I thought all girls experiment in college.  Didn't you have a few drinks and make out with a roommate?"  After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

What? Pretty much any time a straight male says they don't like or are not interested in in gay sex, that is ipso facto proof they are secretly gay. For some reason this is treated as an argument winner, when really it deserves the answer the Joker got from the Batman in Dark Knight.


You must mean Joel Schumacher's Batman And Robin. Because, y'know, nipple suits.
 
2013-04-28 12:12:57 AM

R.A.Danny: You can't have a friend without trying to compete with him? This is what you think of all the other guys in your immediate area? You may benefit from some couchwork.


I think the premise of my response was 'in a Patriarchy' ... I don't know that we live in a patriarchy.
 
2013-04-28 12:13:28 AM

R.A.Danny: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: R.A.Danny: Dahnkster: All sex is acceptable except with children and non-consensual farm animals.
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Does peanut butter = consent?

I'm asking for a friend.

Well, okay, I'll be your friend.

Where on my body would you like the peanut butter?

I got a nut allergy.


LOL. Well-played.

Coco LaFemme
BTW, can someone explain to me what this crap is about how all heterosexual women are secretly interested in getting it on with another woman. I'm a heterosexual woman, and I have never in my life thought about having sex with another woman.

This is consistent with my experience: that heterosexual women find lesbianism repulsive. Furthermore, they tend to enjoy gay male porn.

I think it's for the same reason hetero men enjoy lesbian porn: in both cases you can mentally assume the role of either or both of the partners on screen without seeing genitalia that you're not interested in. Homosexual porn: it works for everyone!

I agree with rynthetyn, too. Studio execs are totally leaving money on the table here for stupid and sexist reasons. Now, if chicks could get better softcore porn than freaking Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey, the world might end up a better place.
 
2013-04-28 12:14:29 AM

rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

So let me get this straight : You turned down someone who was even mildly interested in sexing you up and they insulted you ? That sounds par for the course for humanity.


I didn't say she was interested in sexing me up.  My gaydar only works on men, but she's not to my knowledge actually hit on me.  I'd be flattered, but I'd have to pass.  No, she was legitimately asking me if I'd ever experimented in college with women because she thought everyone did, and I told her I didn't.....which she thought was weird.
 
2013-04-28 12:18:48 AM

Coco LaFemme: rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

So let me get this straight : You turned down someone who was even mildly interested in sexing you up and they insulted you ? That sounds par for the course for humanity.

I didn't say she was interested in sexing me up.  My gaydar only works on men, but she's not to my knowledge actually hit on me.  I'd be flattered, but I'd have to pass.  No, she was legitimately asking me if I'd ever experimented in college with women because she thought everyone did, and I told her I didn't.....which she thought was weird.


Sounds like she was a little defensive, or your response was genuinely counter to her experiences.

I think the fact that you don't drink might be entangled somehow... Perhaps people who are equally straight 'experiment' while drinking in college?
 
2013-04-28 12:20:41 AM

rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

So let me get this straight : You turned down someone who was even mildly interested in sexing you up and they insulted you ? That sounds par for the course for humanity.

I didn't say she was interested in sexing me up.  My gaydar only works on men, but she's not to my knowledge actually hit on me.  I'd be flattered, but I'd have to pass.  No, she was legitimately asking me if I'd ever experimented in college with women because she thought everyone did, and I told her I didn't.....which she thought was weird.

Sounds like she was a little defensive, or your response was genuinely counter to her experiences.

I think the fact that you don't drink might be entangled somehow... Perhaps people who are equally straight 'experiment' while drinking in college?




People that don't drink are hiding something.
 
2013-04-28 12:21:52 AM

Trance354: On a lark, some friends and I walked into a porn shop. The group was about even, male/female. This was way back in college, and we had the "experimenting" guy with us, along with the dude who would eventually pop his cherry that weekend. Myself and most of the others started cruising the normal videos: teen, mature, boobies, etc. took most of us a second to notice "Dave" and his soon to be bf were transfixed by the display behind the counter: 3 guys, all muscled up, going at it. Dave's mouth was open, complete slack jaw. "Tim" was rapt, breathing heavily, and glancing at Dave periodically, as if to judge his reaction. One of the girls went over and started watching too. Myself and the other guys, being hetero, took one look at what was on the screen and called it a day. That was the first and last time I will ever look at gay porn. That image is burned into my brain for all time. MANY kittens died that night, I can tell you.
say what you will, I believe the gay population find hetero sex just as revolting as we heteros find gay porn revolting, that being the same sex as the person(s) watching. This has been backed up by several friends saying just that when asked the question.


"It is, for many people, a phase."
 
2013-04-28 12:22:19 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: R.A.Danny: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: R.A.Danny: Dahnkster: All sex is acceptable except with children and non-consensual farm animals.
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Does peanut butter = consent?

I'm asking for a friend.

Well, okay, I'll be your friend.

Where on my body would you like the peanut butter?

I got a nut allergy.

LOL. Well-played.

Coco LaFemme
BTW, can someone explain to me what this crap is about how all heterosexual women are secretly interested in getting it on with another woman. I'm a heterosexual woman, and I have never in my life thought about having sex with another woman.

This is consistent with my experience: that heterosexual women find lesbianism repulsive. Furthermore, they tend to enjoy gay male porn.

I think it's for the same reason hetero men enjoy lesbian porn: in both cases you can mentally assume the role of either or both of the partners on screen without seeing genitalia that you're not interested in. Homosexual porn: it works for everyone!

I agree with rynthetyn, too. Studio execs are totally leaving money on the table here for stupid and sexist reasons. Now, if chicks could get better softcore porn than freaking Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey, the world might end up a better place.


I don't find lesbianism repulsive.  It's not for me, but that doesn't mean it's filthy or something.  I mean, let's break it down here, what happens in lesbian porn?  Oral sex, fingering, making out, touching....all stuff I like my boyfriend to do.  Maybe some heterosexual women find the idea of two women having sex repulsive, but they're just doing stuff with each other you want your man to do to you/with you, so finding it repulsive seems a bit hypocritical to me.
 
2013-04-28 12:22:43 AM
I've lived in Provincetown, Ma which is like gay disneyland for over 40 years on and off, family came from there.   I don't care if it's man on man or girl on girl but lesbians in porn are not the norm in real life.  Most of them would look like they'd be more likely to chop down a tree with an axe than what you see in porn.  Most lesbians have more male traits, like how they act, and most male homosexuals are more effeminate than you would expect a man to act.   I don't care what they do with each other, and my 11 yr. old daughter is ok with it since she spends a lot of time there.   Basically I look at being gay as a genetic mistake that I ignore .    I will say that lesbians in p-town are more aggressive towards straight people than they were in the past.   Like yelling derogetary things at me for no reason just passing them on my way through town unprovoked.
 
2013-04-28 12:24:07 AM

Coco LaFemme: Well, I take that as a badge of honor.  Ordinarily I wouldn't be on Fark right now, but the boyfriend is out of town visiting family and well, I'm bored.


Call up a girlfriend. Have a pillow fight.
 
2013-04-28 12:26:06 AM
   I have a male cousin who is gay...He was born that way. Period...It is difficult to hear some folks say no one can be born that way,when you've actually watched a kid from birth grow to manhood and never ever change...I just want anyone who might give me an opinion,understand where I'm at on that...
  With that being said...Can one be born bi-sexual??  or is that primarily a choice?
 
2013-04-28 12:26:09 AM

rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

So let me get this straight : You turned down someone who was even mildly interested in sexing you up and they insulted you ? That sounds par for the course for humanity.

I didn't say she was interested in sexing me up.  My gaydar only works on men, but she's not to my knowledge actually hit on me.  I'd be flattered, but I'd have to pass.  No, she was legitimately asking me if I'd ever experimented in college with women because she thought everyone did, and I told her I didn't.....which she thought was weird.

Sounds like she was a little defensive, or your response was genuinely counter to her experiences.


I'd say the latter, not the former.  I didn't mean to make her sound like a biatch or something, she's not, she just seemed honestly perplexed.  Which is cool; I love confusing people.


StoPPeRmobile: rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: rubi_con_man: Coco LaFemme: After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?

So let me get this straight : You turned down someone who was even mildly interested in sexing you up and they insulted you ? That sounds par for the course for humanity.

I didn't say she was interested in sexing me up.  My gaydar only works on men, but she's not to my knowledge actually hit on me.  I'd be flattered, but I'd have to pass.  No, she was legitimately asking me if I'd ever experimented in college with women because she thought everyone did, and I told her I didn't.....which she thought was weird.

Sounds like she was a little defensive, or your response was genuinely counter to her experiences.

I think the fact that you don't drink might be entangled somehow... Perhaps people who are equally straight 'experiment' while drinking in college?

People that don't drink are hiding something.


Maybe they just have the experience of dealing with alcoholic family members, and thus even the idea of drinking is repugnant to them.  You know, something like that.  Doesn't always have to be mysterious.
 
2013-04-28 12:28:00 AM

Notabunny: Trance354: On a lark, some friends and I walked into a porn shop. The group was about even, male/female. This was way back in college, and we had the "experimenting" guy with us, along with the dude who would eventually pop his cherry that weekend. Myself and most of the others started cruising the normal videos: teen, mature, boobies, etc. took most of us a second to notice "Dave" and his soon to be bf were transfixed by the display behind the counter: 3 guys, all muscled up, going at it. Dave's mouth was open, complete slack jaw. "Tim" was rapt, breathing heavily, and glancing at Dave periodically, as if to judge his reaction. One of the girls went over and started watching too. Myself and the other guys, being hetero, took one look at what was on the screen and called it a day. That was the first and last time I will ever look at gay porn. That image is burned into my brain for all time. MANY kittens died that night, I can tell you.
say what you will, I believe the gay population find hetero sex just as revolting as we heteros find gay porn revolting, that being the same sex as the person(s) watching. This has been backed up by several friends saying just that when asked the question.

"It is, for many people, a phase."


GHAA! (NSFW - language) Sorry.
 
2013-04-28 12:33:36 AM

laid back w/bud light: I've lived in Provincetown, Ma which is like gay disneyland for over 40 years on and off, family came from there.   I don't care if it's man on man or girl on girl but lesbians in porn are not the norm in real life.  Most of them would look like they'd be more likely to chop down a tree with an axe than what you see in porn.  Most lesbians have more male traits, like how they act, and most male homosexuals are more effeminate than you would expect a man to act.   I don't care what they do with each other, and my 11 yr. old daughter is ok with it since she spends a lot of time there.   Basically I look at being gay as a genetic mistake that I ignore .    I will say that lesbians in p-town are more aggressive towards straight people than they were in the past.   Like yelling derogetary things at me for no reason just passing them on my way through town unprovoked.


Yet, strangely, I don't feel sorry for you.
 
2013-04-28 12:41:21 AM
Depends subby, are we talking real lesbians or "lesbians" here.

"Lesbians" are about as genuine as "I can't believe it's not butter" and watching two lumberjacks wrestle around naked to emo music is a cruel and unusual regardless of what gender they patron in the bathrooms.
 
2013-04-28 12:42:25 AM
Coco LaFemme
I don't find lesbianism repulsive. It's not for me, but that doesn't mean it's filthy or something.

Sorry, imprecise language on my part, but I think we're on the same page.

For what it's worth, the worst thing about male-on-male stuff is the anal. I don't like male-on-female anal for exactly the same reasons I don't like male-on-male anal.

On the other hand, blowjobs are awesome and a girlfriend once stimulated my prostate with a vibrator to my perineum. It was awesome! So, like you, I feel like it would be hypocritical to say I hate it or even that I don't "get it".

Still, when presented with a choice, I choose lesbian or hetero porn over gay porn. If I am in a situation where gay porn is being displayed, sometimes I'll watch (eh, why not?) but more often than not I'll actively go find something else to do. That's what I meant by "repulsive", though that's way too strong of a word.
 
2013-04-28 12:44:57 AM

Notabunny: Notabunny: Trance354: On a lark, some friends and I walked into a porn shop. The group was about even, male/female. This was way back in college, and we had the "experimenting" guy with us, along with the dude who would eventually pop his cherry that weekend. Myself and most of the others started cruising the normal videos: teen, mature, boobies, etc. took most of us a second to notice "Dave" and his soon to be bf were transfixed by the display behind the counter: 3 guys, all muscled up, going at it. Dave's mouth was open, complete slack jaw. "Tim" was rapt, breathing heavily, and glancing at Dave periodically, as if to judge his reaction. One of the girls went over and started watching too. Myself and the other guys, being hetero, took one look at what was on the screen and called it a day. That was the first and last time I will ever look at gay porn. That image is burned into my brain for all time. MANY kittens died that night, I can tell you.
say what you will, I believe the gay population find hetero sex just as revolting as we heteros find gay porn revolting, that being the same sex as the person(s) watching. This has been backed up by several friends saying just that when asked the question.

"It is, for many people, a phase."

GHAA! (NSFW - language) Sorry.


People aren't going to complain about the NSFW language, it's more likely that you're going to get the "GHAAA DAN SAVAGE IS BIPHOBIC!!!!" response. Never mind that it's actually true that while there are unquestionably bi people, pretty much every gay person tried to convince themselves they were bi at one point in their life.
 
2013-04-28 12:47:57 AM

Coco LaFemme: BTW, can someone explain to me what this crap is about how all heterosexual women are secretly interested in getting it on with another woman.  I'm a heterosexual woman, and I have never  in my life thought about having sex with another woman.  I don't get that shiat.  Not the two women having sex bit, the other part.  A few weeks ago my boyfriend and I were at a dinner party some mutual friends were throwing and the female half of that couple is bisexual and she asked me if I ever experimented with women in college, and I just gave her a funny look and said, "Fark no, I'm straight."  She seemed honestly perplexed by my answer.  She was like, "I thought all girls experiment in college.  Didn't you have a few drinks and make out with a roommate?"  After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?


Cause its never been the "in thing" to feed guys shots at a party till you convince them to make out.

however most women ive gotten to know over the years admit to doing it atleast once or twice.

so either guys dont do it at all. Or they do without an audience and never speak of it.

she figures your weird cause Im sure her and all her girlfriends had a kick or two at that can.

less about being bi sexual and more about putting on a show
 
2013-04-28 12:49:02 AM
Doesn't EVERYBODY love titties though?
 
2013-04-28 12:49:50 AM

GreenSun: "High-profile lesbian athletes have come out while still playing their sports, but not a single gay male athlete in major U.S. professional sports has done the same."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2012/10/20/orlando-cruz- ga y-boxer-wins-first-fight-since-out/1646375/


I thought boxing's a major US sport? Maybe the writer just didn't do her research properly.


Boxing is somewhere between lacrosse and spelling bees in terms of popularity
 
2013-04-28 12:50:05 AM
Maybe I'm the only straight guy in the world who feels this way, but I find lesbian porn kinda boring. I want to see women stimulating a peener in some way, and imagine that it's mine. Stimulating a vag with other appendages is something I'm happy to do for a partner, but for her sake; it doesn't do anything for me, and I'm not particularly interested in watching someone -- guy or girl -- do it. NTTAWWT.

But I say this in the relative anonymity of a Fark thread. IRL, "oh yeah, I love it when biatches be boffing!" 'Cuz, you know, I'm not ghey or nothin'.
 
2013-04-28 12:55:36 AM
Man, some of us women like porn, but getting good free porn for us is not easy.  I don't want to see two chicks getting it on.  I don't get turned on by women giving blowjobs.  Hell, I have to REALLY like a man to give him a BJ, that's why it's called a JOB.  I'm tired of all the sex up the butt.  It's not sexy, just sleazy.  Two guys on one chick is now just gross for me.  It was sexy for a while, but not anymore.  I don't want to see some goofy romance story either.  I think more women need to direct these videos.
 
2013-04-28 12:57:16 AM
Lets see two women lezzing out is just a guy away from being every strait guys fantasy.

A couple of gay guys doing it is just a big headed banjo boy away from being every strait guys worst nightmare.
 
2013-04-28 12:58:56 AM

gerbilpox: Maybe I'm the only straight guy in the world who feels this way, but I find lesbian porn kinda boring. I want to see women stimulating a peener in some way, and imagine that it's mine. Stimulating a vag with other appendages is something I'm happy to do for a partner, but for her sake; it doesn't do anything for me, and I'm not particularly interested in watching someone -- guy or girl -- do it. NTTAWWT.

But I say this in the relative anonymity of a Fark thread. IRL, "oh yeah, I love it when biatches be boffing!" 'Cuz, you know, I'm not ghey or nothin'.


I'm in the same boat, seems like a whole lotta foreplay and no real action. It's nice to watch but I stick to straight porn for the most part.
 
2013-04-28 12:58:59 AM

Caffandtranqs: Man, some of us women like porn, but getting good free porn for us is not easy.  I don't want to see two chicks getting it on.  I don't get turned on by women giving blowjobs.  Hell, I have to REALLY like a man to give him a BJ, that's why it's called a JOB.  I'm tired of all the sex up the butt.  It's not sexy, just sleazy.  Two guys on one chick is now just gross for me.  It was sexy for a while, but not anymore.  I don't want to see some goofy romance story either.  I think more women need to direct these videos.


Oddly enough many guys are just the opposite. They can get all the romantic lovemaking they need, they wanna watch the wrong items going in the wrong holes, spitting, gaping, screaming, and ruined makeup. Stuff they would never really want to do with someone they cared for, more like stunt sex. Probably how Sasha Grey got to be so popular.
 
2013-04-28 01:00:02 AM

God-is-a-Taco: In pop culture, lesbians have only sexuality and gay men have everything but sexuality. There's the "lesbian episode", but also the flamboyantly gay guy there from the start that's a humorous eunuch.

As to the article, no one is surprised when female athletes come out as gay. That's like a male interior decorator or figure skater coming out as gay.


I think it's more than that--in our culture, women are safe and harmless, even when expressing sexuality. Maybe especially then. But men are taken as threats, and therefore trigger the 'I must hurt anything different' urge. If we saw it the other way around, we'd see the trends flip too.
 
2013-04-28 01:00:49 AM
Krieghund
Put the beer down.  Your bio pic makes you look like Artie Lange before he quit drinking.  Nice gutt fatso.  You ever had dikes yell at you for no reason, or gay men tell you they want something from you, NO.  So take your stupid quote back to wherever you come from.
 
2013-04-28 01:01:04 AM
I forgot to mention my biggest grievance with porn.  There is/are always some ugly motherfarkers doing the women.  Do the directors go out and look for any ugly bastid off the street to do these things?
 
2013-04-28 01:02:07 AM

AcesFull:    I have a male cousin who is gay...He was born that way. Period...It is difficult to hear some folks say no one can be born that way,when you've actually watched a kid from birth grow to manhood and never ever change...I just want anyone who might give me an opinion,understand where I'm at on that...
  With that being said...Can one be born bi-sexual??  or is that primarily a choice?


The human brain works on the principle of thresholds. I think bisexuality is an extension of that.

There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.

Or you have women who have a traumatic falling out with a man and get into a temporary romance with a woman before going back to men. The impulse for a safe sexual relationship exceeded the threshold of orientation.

On the same principle from the opposite direction, I had a lesbian manager once who went through a nasty breakup with her partner and got into a temporary relationship with my male coworker.

To some degree it's a choice, and I believe some people may be born with lower thresholds than others, and I believe that situation and environment show that orientation is neither rigid nor binary. But this is barstool sociology, so take it for what you will :)
 
2013-04-28 01:02:54 AM

AcesFull:    I have a male cousin who is gay...He was born that way. Period...It is difficult to hear some folks say no one can be born that way,when you've actually watched a kid from birth grow to manhood and never ever change...I just want anyone who might give me an opinion,understand where I'm at on that...
  With that being said...Can one be born bi-sexual??  or is that primarily a choice?


In my case it was a choice. Brought on by having un restricted internet access during puberty and having delt with for the most part bitachy deceitful gold digging selfish
did I mention deceitful? women.

I passed along my genetic material. Ive got a son and I hope he manges to avoid the kinds of women Ive dated.

first hooked up with a guy at a rave when I was 19.
out of all my sexual partners about 1/4 have been male.
dont date guys. Never have anyways.
never once caught myself turning my head in awe of a guy.
but cant help but notice a hot girl.

so ya in my case anyways. Total choice
 
2013-04-28 01:04:55 AM
fapz
 
2013-04-28 01:08:14 AM

rynthetyn: TuteTibiImperes: rynthetyn: On a less than serious note, go read all of the batshiat insane fangirly comments on the picture that John Barrowman instagrammed today of him and Nathan Fillion and get back to me about society.

The reality is that when people talk about "society", what they really mean is, "what straight males think." Women aren't even part of the discussion.

You have a point.  As long as the vast majority of executive positions in media outlets are held by white heterosexual males, the output of those outlets is going to be normalized to a degree to the views of most white heterosexual males.

When some Yaoi fans enter positions of power, maybe we'll see a push to normalize that type of behavior, but for now pop culture is predominantly determined, whether consciously or not, by the perceptions, perversions, and prejudices of a group of predominantly straight white guys.

You'd think that network heads and studio execs would look at the numbers and realize that even though the LGBTQ contingent isn't that large of a demographic, straight females are eating that shiat up. A huge portion of the Glee audience is watching for Kurt and Blaine, and then you've got your shippers working overtime watching Supernatural, tumblr practically broke when The Doctor kissed Rory (even though it wasn't remotely a romantic thing), and well, the USA Network's bread and butter is the bromance. You'd think with all that they'd get the hint.


All that, AND the slashfic fandoms that have sprung up around practically every show and movie - even bands. Pretty much exclusively straight females write and read it, though I have seen some male readers, which is fabulous, in more than one way :D
 
2013-04-28 01:08:44 AM

Fano: Duh. Everyone knows lesbians aren't threatening because all the hot ones are one good deep dicking from a real man to go straight.


That would be more funny if corrective rape didn't actually happen.
 
2013-04-28 01:09:31 AM

rynthetyn: Notabunny: Notabunny: Trance354: On a lark, some friends and I walked into a porn shop. The group was about even, male/female. This was way back in college, and we had the "experimenting" guy with us, along with the dude who would eventually pop his cherry that weekend. Myself and most of the others started cruising the normal videos: teen, mature, boobies, etc. took most of us a second to notice "Dave" and his soon to be bf were transfixed by the display behind the counter: 3 guys, all muscled up, going at it. Dave's mouth was open, complete slack jaw. "Tim" was rapt, breathing heavily, and glancing at Dave periodically, as if to judge his reaction. One of the girls went over and started watching too. Myself and the other guys, being hetero, took one look at what was on the screen and called it a day. That was the first and last time I will ever look at gay porn. That image is burned into my brain for all time. MANY kittens died that night, I can tell you.
say what you will, I believe the gay population find hetero sex just as revolting as we heteros find gay porn revolting, that being the same sex as the person(s) watching. This has been backed up by several friends saying just that when asked the question.

"It is, for many people, a phase."

GHAA! (NSFW - language) Sorry.

People aren't going to complain about the NSFW language, it's more likely that you're going to get the "GHAAA DAN SAVAGE IS BIPHOBIC!!!!" response. Never mind that it's actually true that while there are unquestionably bi people, pretty much every gay person tried to convince themselves they were bi at one point in their life.


GHAA! YOU ARE CORRECT! I was just hoping to placate the mods who might wonder if my previous post would offend a sponsor. Drew is cool. But sometimes it takes a while for reality and money to catch up to each other.
 
2013-04-28 01:09:36 AM

rubi_con_man: BarkingUnicorn: A patriarchal society places higher value on heterosexuality in men than it places on heterosexuality in women because women are less  more important than men.

In a patriarchy, Women are objects. Objects having relationships with objects is irrelevant.

As long as most women give in, the rest can be raped into productive re-productivity if necessary, and most women dabble, so as long as we can believe that they'll all eventually pick a penis when they want a baby (and therefore the 'best' penis, which is really the ultimate gauge of competition)

Men are either competition, superiors or inferiors (winners, losers or competing) . A real gay relationship implies that one or both of the men have given up the competition process that is at the center or hetero value, therefore giving up an important part of manliness.


What's sad is this kind of stuff is actually taught in some college classes.
 
2013-04-28 01:10:09 AM
There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.

Oops, dropped a thought here: after graduation, the boys in homosexual relationships severed their ties and picked up heterosexual relationships.

Anyway, here's a wiki article on it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situa tional_sexual_behavior
 
2013-04-28 01:13:40 AM

Coco LaFemme: BTW, can someone explain to me what this crap is about how all heterosexual women are secretly interested in getting it on with another woman.  I'm a heterosexual woman, and I have never  in my life thought about having sex with another woman.  I don't get that shiat.  Not the two women having sex bit, the other part.  A few weeks ago my boyfriend and I were at a dinner party some mutual friends were throwing and the female half of that couple is bisexual and she asked me if I ever experimented with women in college, and I just gave her a funny look and said, "Fark no, I'm straight."  She seemed honestly perplexed by my answer.  She was like, "I thought all girls experiment in college.  Didn't you have a few drinks and make out with a roommate?"  After I told her I don't drink and had no interest in women in anyway that would require them to remove their panties in my presence, she said I was weird.

Am I weird?  I don't think I'm weird.  Do bisexual/gay men think it's weird when straight guys say they have no interest in experimenting with men?  I think not.  So why is it only women that get called weird for that?


No, you're not weird. I'm exactly the same way. Women do not interest me in the slightest, drunk or high or not. I'm straight. That means I like teh cawk. I have never and will never get with a woman - she does not have what I'm interested in. I don't even like she-males, even though there is a "tootsie-roll" there. Not attracted to boobs, don't like them, don't want to touch them, don't want to look at them. If I ever did feel the urge to, I have some on my own chest to touch or look at.

And no, getting me drunk will not change my mind or my orientation.

/nice pecs and a lean six pack, that little ridge over the hipbones
//oh yeah, now you're talking
 
2013-04-28 01:14:25 AM

White_Scarf_Syndrome: bobtheallmighty: People will stop being "gay in your face" at about the same time straight people stop being "straight" in your face.

Really? I have not seen a "straight" bumper sticker.  Yet.  Like I said. Who effing cares. No matter how much I like to talk about it, no one gives a shiat what I do in the bedroom.  I suppose there is a silent majority and there is a very loud bunch of advocates, just like anything else.


Really?  You've never seen a "baby on board" sign on a car, or those little stick figure symbols on the windscreen depicting a man, a woman, and their children?  You've never seen a wedding ring in your life?  You've never heard a man refer to "my wife" or a woman refer to "my husband"?  You've never seen a man and a woman kiss, or even just hold hands, in public?  You've never seen someone put a picture of their spouse on their desk at work?

Are you lying or are you just a complete idiot?
 
2013-04-28 01:14:33 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.

Oops, dropped a thought here: after graduation, the boys in homosexual relationships severed their ties and picked up heterosexual relationships.

Anyway, here's a wiki article on it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situa tional_sexual_behavior


Oh you mean like prison.
tends to happen in female boarding schools and prisons to.

male or female. Sex eventually becomes a need. Not quite like food or water. But close.

Thats why I think prostitution should be legal and acceptable.
hell it would make it easier for women to date because they wouldnt encounter the over sexed aint been laid in 3 years kinda guy. And guys can avoid the whole Im gonna wait till youve spent X amount of dollars before I sleep with you kinda chick.

people need sex or they get weird
 
2013-04-28 01:14:37 AM

R.A.Danny: Caffandtranqs: Man, some of us women like porn, but getting good free porn for us is not easy.  I don't want to see two chicks getting it on.  I don't get turned on by women giving blowjobs.  Hell, I have to REALLY like a man to give him a BJ, that's why it's called a JOB.  I'm tired of all the sex up the butt.  It's not sexy, just sleazy.  Two guys on one chick is now just gross for me.  It was sexy for a while, but not anymore.  I don't want to see some goofy romance story either.  I think more women need to direct these videos.

Oddly enough many guys are just the opposite. They can get all the romantic lovemaking they need, they wanna watch the wrong items going in the wrong holes, spitting, gaping, screaming, and ruined makeup. Stuff they would never really want to do with someone they cared for, more like stunt sex. Probably how Sasha Grey got to be so popular.


Oh, I know.  The popularity of all that stuff speaks for what the male audience wants to see.  I don't know who Sasha Grey is, but it is also important for me to have the woman be good looking as well.  When the chicks have fake boobs that look like they have rivets or kind of boxlike when they are laying down is ugly to me.  Yes, I'm quite aware that you men don't necessarily want what you see in film.  It has never been assumed by any of my boyfriends to do any of those things.
 
2013-04-28 01:14:47 AM
I love watching people expressing affection, I like so see women expressing carnal lust without the motivation of a man's desire, that being said the vast majority of porn just doesn't deliver. "Lesbian" porn just seems like that bi for show thing that's been happening lately. Or maybe I need to find a better class of porn.
 
2013-04-28 01:15:38 AM

silvervial: /nice pecs and a lean six pack, that little ridge over the hipbones


I keep reading "Beer gut and receding hairline"
 
2013-04-28 01:17:56 AM
I am a carpet munchin' lesbian trapped in a man's body.
 
2013-04-28 01:23:50 AM

silvervial: rynthetyn: TuteTibiImperes: rynthetyn: On a less than serious note, go read all of the batshiat insane fangirly comments on the picture that John Barrowman instagrammed today of him and Nathan Fillion and get back to me about society.

The reality is that when people talk about "society", what they really mean is, "what straight males think." Women aren't even part of the discussion.

You have a point.  As long as the vast majority of executive positions in media outlets are held by white heterosexual males, the output of those outlets is going to be normalized to a degree to the views of most white heterosexual males.

When some Yaoi fans enter positions of power, maybe we'll see a push to normalize that type of behavior, but for now pop culture is predominantly determined, whether consciously or not, by the perceptions, perversions, and prejudices of a group of predominantly straight white guys.

You'd think that network heads and studio execs would look at the numbers and realize that even though the LGBTQ contingent isn't that large of a demographic, straight females are eating that shiat up. A huge portion of the Glee audience is watching for Kurt and Blaine, and then you've got your shippers working overtime watching Supernatural, tumblr practically broke when The Doctor kissed Rory (even though it wasn't remotely a romantic thing), and well, the USA Network's bread and butter is the bromance. You'd think with all that they'd get the hint.

All that, AND the slashfic fandoms that have sprung up around practically every show and movie - even bands. Pretty much exclusively straight females write and read it, though I have seen some male readers, which is fabulous, in more than one way :D


True. After all, the granddaddy of all slashfic, and the one that gave slash it's name was Kirk/Spock, and that was entirely the invention of straight women. Also, I'm pretty sure that Tumblr and Twitter would both break from all of the squeeing if various members of 1 Direction came out and announced that they dating each other.
 
2013-04-28 01:26:12 AM
The snarky headline would work more if real life lesbians actually looked like the ones in porn.
 
2013-04-28 01:27:11 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The human brain works on the principle of thresholds. I think bisexuality is an extension of that.

There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.


Prison too, I imagine.

I think it's ridiculous B.S. when a "top" in man-sex claims he's not gay, whereas the "bottom" is. OK, so maybe you do the same things you'd do to a woman, rather than be the penetratee -- but if you willingly have sex with another man, you are not straight. NTTAWWT, just sayin'.

However, I could imagine that in, say, a Turkish prison, where you have nothing else to put it in, that might be an exception.

media.screened.com

Or, you know, if Scraps got frisky.
 
2013-04-28 01:29:56 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.

Oops, dropped a thought here: after graduation, the boys in homosexual relationships severed their ties and picked up heterosexual relationships.

Anyway, here's a wiki article on it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situa tional_sexual_behavior

Oh you mean like prison.
tends to happen in female boarding schools and prisons to.

male or female. Sex eventually becomes a need. Not quite like food or water. But close.

Thats why I think prostitution should be legal and acceptable.
hell it would make it easier for women to date because they wouldnt encounter the over sexed aint been laid in 3 years kinda guy. And guys can avoid the whole Im gonna wait till youve spent X amount of dollars before I sleep with you kinda chick.

people need sex or they get weird


Uh... you ARE aware of how prostitution works, right? ;)
 
2013-04-28 01:33:19 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: teenage mutant ninja rapist: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: There's a phenomenon of "situational homosexuality". For example, all-male boarding schools. The preference might be for females, but given the lack of them, the boys developed homosexual relationships. The impulse for sexuality exceeded the threshold of orientation.

Oops, dropped a thought here: after graduation, the boys in homosexual relationships severed their ties and picked up heterosexual relationships.

Anyway, here's a wiki article on it:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situa tional_sexual_behavior

Oh you mean like prison.
tends to happen in female boarding schools and prisons to.

male or female. Sex eventually becomes a need. Not quite like food or water. But close.

Thats why I think prostitution should be legal and acceptable.
hell it would make it easier for women to date because they wouldnt encounter the over sexed aint been laid in 3 years kinda guy. And guys can avoid the whole Im gonna wait till youve spent X amount of dollars before I sleep with you kinda chick.

people need sex or they get weird

Uh... you ARE aware of how prostitution works, right? ;)


Lol. Ok I worded it wrong.

Prostitutes dont pull that crap for weeks and months.

seconds and minutes is fine for prostitutes.

I ment them hose bags that expect months of expensive resturantes and exciting dates at your expense before theyre gonna touch you.
 
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