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2013-04-27 11:45:55 AM  
From the picture in the article, Prince Charming likes a big badonkadonk
 
2013-04-27 02:06:10 PM  
Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]
 
2013-04-27 02:47:32 PM  

Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.


I'm starting to get a few nieces and I'm the uncle that takes them to Disney when their parents want to do...whatever. So we see a ton of little girls now running around in these princess outfits that must have cost a fortune but more importantly, could not be comfortable in 90 degree heat. I took them to Norway in EPCOT that has an awesome buffet and RingnessTM beer and the whole place was replaced with a princess outfit purchase station. I don't remember seeing this shiat even 5 years ago.

So I asked the nieces, are you into this sort of thing and they said, "fark no, that princess shiat is farking gay". Not an exact quote but almost as profane and encouraging.
 
2013-04-27 03:03:50 PM  
Oh sweet, more parent-shaming. Another chance for the "good" parents to look down their noses at the "bad" parents.

Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.


They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.
 
2013-04-27 03:13:39 PM  

Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.


I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.
 
2013-04-27 03:22:30 PM  
The girl in blue is looking like "that biatch ain't no princess"
 
2013-04-27 03:24:42 PM  
" mommy, i think cinderella at too many pumpkins "
 
2013-04-27 03:26:22 PM  
Why not a Daenerys' party?.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-27 03:27:04 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: From the picture in the article, Prince Charming likes a big badonkadonk


I read that as "Prince Charming  has a big badonkadonk" and was O_o
 
2013-04-27 03:28:07 PM  

Son of Thunder: Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.

I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.


Actually, they see children as vessels to squeeze all your resources. They also want to keep the ball rolling.
 
2013-04-27 03:30:15 PM  

Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]


I surrendered almost immediately. And I'm glad I did. It's fun! I know all the stories and songs, usually I'm a pony, but sometimes I get to be Prince Charming, and 4 of 5 times a summer I'm sporting sparkly pink toenails. At bath time I read from the storybooks and act out the characters. It won't last forever, so I'm enjoying the heck out of it now. A couple weekends ago I was Ursula. A couple of the neighbor boys came over with blasters and light sabers to do battle. I turned them into toads and fed them (gummi) worms.
 
2013-04-27 03:30:56 PM  
STOP GIVING CHILDREN PURCHASING POWER.
 
2013-04-27 03:32:31 PM  
Disney Lawyers in 3 2 1 .
 
2013-04-27 03:32:48 PM  
nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex
 
2013-04-27 03:33:46 PM  
Cinderella has really let herself go.  Furthermore if my two year old asks for a monkey knife fight birthday party within the next 8 years I will feel like a successful father.
 
2013-04-27 03:33:51 PM  

Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]


Wooden blocks
Legos (mostly)
There are still Tonka and HotWheels things out there that aren't branded
 
2013-04-27 03:34:40 PM  

BlippityBleep: nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex


You forgot your Warhammer 40k minis :p.
 
2013-04-27 03:36:31 PM  

Son of Thunder: Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.

I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.


Their legal obligation is to return maximum value to their owners and investors.  If something worked better than the "Princess" meme, they'd use that (see BRATZ).  These companies exist because they are successful.  Sorry, but you have no control over what your children will become (just like every parent in history).
 
2013-04-27 03:36:44 PM  
Here's what I've noticed about all the little girls I know (through friends, family, whatevs). The daughters of geeks are into superheroes and Star Wars rather than princesses. The daughters of non-geeks are heavily into the Disney princess crap. I realize Star Wars is now owned by Disney so financially it's a wash, but I love that little geek girls aren't falling into the "girls must always wear pink and be princesses" gender stereotype.
 
2013-04-27 03:36:48 PM  

Son of Thunder: Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.

I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.


Having watched my friends turn into helicopter parents intent on philosophizing and controlling every aspect of their child's daily experience, I made a deliberate choice to go the "hands off" route. Basically, unless I have overwhelming reason to believe that something is genuinely harmful to them, then...meh.

Still, won't let my daughter anywhere near that "Princesses" crap, or either of my children near Disney merchandise. They're 2. They have plenty of time to learn how to become good little corporate consumers later in life...I don't need to slather their nursery with commercials.

Meh.

/Team Sesame Street.
 
2013-04-27 03:36:51 PM  
My niece forced me to play Disney Princess Memory (with the little matching cards) and I was bored with the pictures before we even started. I'm just glad they live 600+ miles away so I only have to deal with it once or twice a year... Her game rules are like Calvin Ball and all geared so she wins, which I tried to bring about as quickly as possible, but alas. 45 minutes later...

/I'm more like the evil witch, anyway.
 
2013-04-27 03:39:36 PM  
i don't see what is wrong with girls wanting to play dress up and imagining living in a big castle and all that princessy stuff. they are just kids and it's fun.
i was all about the princess of power, she-ra, when i was a kid.
just watched the opening theme on youtube, AWESOME.
www.childofthe1980s.com
 
2013-04-27 03:40:25 PM  

Notabunny: Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]

I surrendered almost immediately. And I'm glad I did. It's fun! I know all the stories and songs, usually I'm a pony, but sometimes I get to be Prince Charming, and 4 of 5 times a summer I'm sporting sparkly pink toenails. At bath time I read from the storybooks and act out the characters. It won't last forever, so I'm enjoying the heck out of it now. A couple weekends ago I was Ursula. A couple of the neighbor boys came over with blasters and light sabers to do battle. I turned them into toads and fed them (gummi) worms.


That's so cute. :3
 
2013-04-27 03:41:21 PM  

Yogimus: STOP GIVING CHILDREN PURCHASING POWER.


I think it's the parents who push all that princess shiat on their kids, at least at the theme parks. Kids just want to run around and go on rides, they don't want to dress like they're going to their farking wedding.
 
2013-04-27 03:41:27 PM  

OhioKnight: Son of Thunder: Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.

I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.

Their legal obligation is to return maximum value to their owners and investors.  If something worked better than the "Princess" meme, they'd use that (see BRATZ).  These companies exist because they are successful.  Sorry, but you have no control over what your children will become (just like every parent in history).


hmmm point taken
yet should i have less influence or more influence than the people who have an obligation to profit
im thinking more
and them less
 
2013-04-27 03:41:34 PM  

mrswood: i don't see what is wrong with girls wanting to play dress up and imagining living in a big castle and all that princessy stuff. they are just kids and it's fun.
i was all about the princess of power, she-ra, when i was a kid.
just watched the opening theme on youtube, AWESOME.
[www.childofthe1980s.com image 200x168]


Because we're Farkers, and we're jaded?.
 
2013-04-27 03:41:57 PM  

CygnusDarius: BlippityBleep: nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex

You forgot your Warhammer 40k minis :p.


that always sounded like a fun game.  how does calling out people with entitlement issues equate to games?
 
2013-04-27 03:44:19 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Here's what I've noticed about all the little girls I know (through friends, family, whatevs). The daughters of geeks are into superheroes and Star Wars rather than princesses. The daughters of non-geeks are heavily into the Disney princess crap. I realize Star Wars is now owned by Disney so financially it's a wash, but I love that little geek girls aren't falling into the "girls must always wear pink and be princesses" gender stereotype.


I'm a geek and my little girl is very into Superheros and Jesse from Toys Story.  The good news is she is not into pink, the bad news is purple is her color of choice, that is going to be a biatch to cover when she wants a different color bedroom.
 
2013-04-27 03:45:02 PM  
How dare little girls like something different than a forty something nerd like?! You geeks are just as bad as the "princess consumer culture" you seem to hate... Everything has to be about you and about what holds your interests
 
2013-04-27 03:45:36 PM  

Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]


Introduce her to Doctor Who, LEGOS, and video games
 
2013-04-27 03:47:16 PM  

Son of Thunder: Di Atribe: Son of Thunder: So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater. Argh.

They're little kids. They like things for simple reasons. Stop reading so much into it.

I am a psychologist, and therefore contractually obligated to read too much into things.  But this is not about looking down my nose at bad parents.  This is about looking down my nose at the corporate whores who see my children as nothing but resources to be squeezed for all they're worth, regardless of whatever damage they may do in the process by inculcating vain materialism.  See Jean Twenge's book Generation Me.


Incorrect sir, they see your children as little sales people to squeeze you for all your worth, your children are their leverage
 
2013-04-27 03:47:36 PM  

CygnusDarius: Why not a Daenerys' party?.


Now this I could approve of!

Although if I orchestrated such a party, it wouldn't be kid friendly.

/What I wouldn't give to be her sun and stars
 
2013-04-27 03:47:38 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: From the picture in the article, Prince Charming likes a big badonkadonk


This is who the escort service sends over when you ask for a disney princess.
 
2013-04-27 03:48:20 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-27 03:48:50 PM  
I've got 5 boys and 1 girl. She's 9 years old. She enjoys cute dresses and nail polish and sparkly tinted lip gloss, but she's no princess. She can kick mr. teeny's ass at Halo, and prefers rock climbing and go carts and dodge ball to tea parties and barbies. It's a lucky thing for me, because I would have had to dig pretty goddamn deep to endure playing any of that shiat.
 
2013-04-27 03:50:56 PM  

BlippityBleep: CygnusDarius: BlippityBleep: nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex

You forgot your Warhammer 40k minis :p.

that always sounded like a fun game.  how does calling out people with entitlement issues equate to games?


Eh, I'm just kidding. I play Warmachine, so the joke's on me, too :p.
 
2013-04-27 03:53:06 PM  

FrancoFile: Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]

Wooden blocks
Legos (mostly)
There are still Tonka and HotWheels things out there that aren't branded


Did that. Some toys have also had their stickers removed.
 
2013-04-27 03:54:00 PM  
I grew up watching all those terrible, vacuous princesses and I still preferred playing out in the dirt, using my telescope and shooting my bow and arrow.  How your kids turn out depends a lot more on what example you set than what fantasy cartoons they watch.
 
2013-04-27 03:55:17 PM  

Tom_Slick: Mike Chewbacca: Here's what I've noticed about all the little girls I know (through friends, family, whatevs). The daughters of geeks are into superheroes and Star Wars rather than princesses. The daughters of non-geeks are heavily into the Disney princess crap. I realize Star Wars is now owned by Disney so financially it's a wash, but I love that little geek girls aren't falling into the "girls must always wear pink and be princesses" gender stereotype.

I'm a geek and my little girl is very into Superheros and Jesse from Toys Story.  The good news is she is not into pink, the bad news is purple is her color of choice, that is going to be a biatch to cover when she wants a different color bedroom.


You could just say, "No, we can't paint your room purple because it'll make it very difficult to paint over in 10 years."
 
2013-04-27 03:55:21 PM  

Son of Thunder: FrancoFile: Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]

Wooden blocks
Legos (mostly)
There are still Tonka and HotWheels things out there that aren't branded

Did that. Some toys have also had their stickers removed.


If you bought something that had a sticker to begin with, you paid too much.

/You also sound crazy
 
2013-04-27 03:58:28 PM  

BlippityBleep: nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex


A single 30-year-old family member posted this on Facebook yesterday: "So...just had someone tell me that I blame everything that has happened to me on someone else....pretty sure I'm doing better then u were at 30...and I do it on my own...but keep blaming McDonalds because ur fat."

The irony is the "fat" person was right. She DOES blame all her problems on someone else. She never outgrew the princess phase, and she thinks she's God's gift to men. And she's constantly biatching about how she can't find a man who'll treat her right.
 
2013-04-27 03:58:52 PM  

CygnusDarius: BlippityBleep: CygnusDarius: BlippityBleep: nothing wrong with having fun with your kids, but it's freaking amazing how many females never outgrow the princess stage.

/three quarters of the female coworkers i deal with stillhave princess complex

You forgot your Warhammer 40k minis :p.

that always sounded like a fun game.  how does calling out people with entitlement issues equate to games?

Eh, I'm just kidding. I play Warmachine, so the joke's on me, too :p.


ha! actually cool story bro time:

my friends were over getting ready to go out one night and they were giving our buddy shiat for painting a warhammer miniature instead of getting ready to go out and he ended up saying "as soon as i finish gluing these wings on i'm going to kick your ass!"  the whole room erupted with laughter hearing what was probably the funniest non-threatening threat we'd ever heard.  lulz.
 
2013-04-27 04:00:40 PM  

Tom_Slick: Mike Chewbacca: Here's what I've noticed about all the little girls I know (through friends, family, whatevs). The daughters of geeks are into superheroes and Star Wars rather than princesses. The daughters of non-geeks are heavily into the Disney princess crap. I realize Star Wars is now owned by Disney so financially it's a wash, but I love that little geek girls aren't falling into the "girls must always wear pink and be princesses" gender stereotype.

I'm a geek and my little girl is very into Superheros and Jesse from Toys Story.  The good news is she is not into pink, the bad news is purple is her color of choice, that is going to be a biatch to cover when she wants a different color bedroom.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-27 04:01:47 PM  

UltimaCS: Son of Thunder: FrancoFile: Son of Thunder: Mrs. Thunder and I are trying so vary hard to keep our daughters from being swallowed by this Disney-fueled festering whirlpool of malignant weapons-grade narcissism, but DANG is it difficult, especially when so many of the toys are either branded with "Cars" or "Disney Princesses".  So kids have to either be (1) a shallow self-absorbed twit, or (2) Mater.  Argh.

But there is some hope.
My oldest daughter the other day: "I'm Iron Man and I KILL YOU!"
Me: "That's my girl." [beaming]

Wooden blocks
Legos (mostly)
There are still Tonka and HotWheels things out there that aren't branded

Did that. Some toys have also had their stickers removed.

If you bought something that had a sticker to begin with, you paid too much.

/You also sound crazy


Have you ever heard of a psychologist who WASN'T crazy?
 
2013-04-27 04:01:58 PM  

Moonfisher: I grew up watching all those terrible, vacuous princesses and I still preferred playing out in the dirt, using my telescope and shooting my bow and arrow.  How your kids turn out depends a lot more on what example you set than what fantasy cartoons they watch.


but don't you think it's kinda bad to be swaying your kid from their interests to your own,  because it's more interesting to you?  I just see this thread full of that... "no 7 yr old daughter, put down that american girl doll and pick up the last season dvd set of dr. who!"
 
2013-04-27 04:02:06 PM  

cookiefleck: How dare little girls like something different than a forty something nerd like?! You geeks are just as bad as the "princess consumer culture" you seem to hate... Everything has to be about you and about what holds your interests


I don't give a crap about what my children end up liking, it's the selfishness that this princess crap brings that I don't like. And my wife is significantly more opposed to it than I am.
 
2013-04-27 04:04:16 PM  

cookiefleck: How dare little girls like something different than a forty something nerd like?! You geeks are just as bad as the "princess consumer culture" you seem to hate... Everything has to be about you and about what holds your interests


This is what I always think when I see Internet nerds complaining about modern trends.

Face it, WH40K is just as silly as NFL, princess obsessions, and Snooki.

/more entertaining, IMO
//but let's not make it out to be more than it is
 
2013-04-27 04:05:18 PM  
My geek girls enjoy beating the crap out of each other with Nerf melee weapons.  Sometimes as princesses.
 
2013-04-27 04:05:51 PM  

picturescrazy: cookiefleck: How dare little girls like something different than a forty something nerd like?! You geeks are just as bad as the "princess consumer culture" you seem to hate... Everything has to be about you and about what holds your interests

I don't give a crap about what my children end up liking, it's the selfishness that this princess crap brings that I don't like. And my wife is significantly more opposed to it than I am.


but the princess don't teach little girls how to be selfish... The disney ones are horribly selfless and kind. Maybe it's the parents reinforcing the more negative aspects of  the princess behavior?
 
2013-04-27 04:06:51 PM  

mrswood: i was all about the princess of power, she-ra, when i was a kid.



HELL YES.  I had the shield and plastic sword that glows in the dark.  Bent it in half attacking a tree.
 
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