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2013-04-27 08:32:20 AM  
Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse
 
2013-04-27 09:01:21 AM  
I work there and know it very well.  It has the highest violent crime rate in the state.  It's also a dumping ground for all of the County's problems.  Therefore, it's really not fair to label it based on problems that were foisted upon it.

Welcome to Newburgh, Murder Capital of New York
 
2013-04-27 09:11:55 AM  
Newburgh is a shiathole.

} lived in Beacon
 
2013-04-27 09:29:49 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Newburgh is a shiathole.

} lived in Beacon


Had a college roommate from Beacon. He used to tell me about Newburgh being a shiathole.
 
2013-04-27 11:12:08 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


Having both attended RPI and dated two girls from Newburgh...Troy is more gray and depressing but RPI is top-drawer if you're a certain type of hyperintelligent single-minded geek who doesn't mind not getting laid for four years. Newburgh is far nastier. It's Detroit^Camden. And unlike formerly hideous Newark, there's no Cory Booker on the horizon in Newburgh. In Newburgh, there are Democratic candidates for office who actually think it's a good thing if they get the Cynthia McKinney endorsement.
 
2013-04-27 12:23:00 PM  
Newburgh-Beacon is nice to drive over the river and through.

/would stop at Fishkill beforehand for lunch
 
2013-04-27 12:24:32 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: I work there and know it very well.  It has the highest violent crime rate in the state.  It's also a dumping ground for all of the County's problems.  Therefore, it's really not fair to label it based on problems that were foisted upon it.

Welcome to Newburgh, Murder Capital of New York


With the State Pen by the road near I-84. Convenient.
 
2013-04-27 12:25:07 PM  
Bullshiat. A Manhattan judge has some nerve saying that when Staten Island is right there next to Manhattan. And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo, Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.
 
2013-04-27 12:28:22 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Newburgh-Beacon is nice to drive over the river and through.

/would stop at Fishkill beforehand for lunch


I always liked driving down 9D to Cold Spring.
 
2013-04-27 12:29:12 PM  
That shrimp.
 
2013-04-27 12:33:14 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


Psh Troy is nothing compared to Schenectady.
 
2013-04-27 12:35:37 PM  
Albany, for all the nasty government stuff that goes on there.
 
2013-04-27 12:37:46 PM  

skinink: Bullshiat. A Manhattan judge has some nerve saying that when Staten Island is right there next to Manhattan. And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo, Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.


Go to Newburgh. Because not even close.
 
2013-04-27 12:38:32 PM  
Alex,I'll take Newark..
 
2013-04-27 12:39:18 PM  
Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.
 
2013-04-27 12:40:45 PM  
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2013-04-27 12:41:50 PM  
The place is so dangerous that some people live in castles!
 
2013-04-27 12:41:53 PM  

Cuchulane: Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.


That's the Town of Newburgh - the City of Newburgh is the shiathole right next door
 
2013-04-27 12:44:38 PM  
Newburgh ain't got nothin' on Camden.

/From Jersey
 
2013-04-27 12:44:49 PM  
Yeah, yeah, Bannerman's Castle is further downstream.  Do not care.
 
2013-04-27 12:49:27 PM  
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2013-04-27 12:49:35 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


No way. Troy is way nicer than Newburgh. That's not saying much, but c'mon. Even Schenectady is better than Kingston, and Kingston is better than Newburgh.

//Grew up in Kingston. The biggest celebration the town has is when we re-enact the time the British burned it down.
 
2013-04-27 12:51:02 PM  

RexTalionis: Newburgh ain't got nothin' on Camden.

/From Jersey


Camden is just terrifying and is actively getting worse. I'm out there for work once a month.
 
2013-04-27 12:53:17 PM  
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Amateurs
 
2013-04-27 12:54:07 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Cuchulane: Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.

That's the Town of Newburgh - the City of Newburgh is the shiathole right next door


There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?
 
2013-04-27 12:56:06 PM  
He isn't lying. You wouldn't expect towns nestled on the banks of the scenic Hudson river to be worse than Harlem in the 70s, but here we are.
 
2013-04-27 01:00:22 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: OtherLittleGuy: Newburgh-Beacon is nice to drive over the river and through.

/would stop at Fishkill beforehand for lunch

I always liked driving down 9D to Cold Spring.


Cold Spring is a fantastic little place. Head north from there and pass Bannerman Castle and make your way up 9/9D to the hudson valley rail trail bridge, stop at the CIA for lunch, and visit the FDR and Vanderbilt houses. Makes for a nice long spring sunday
 
2013-04-27 01:02:30 PM  
 Newburgh-Beacon: the only toll on I-84 in New York...and only if you're headed eastbound.

/Driven through the area many times
//Mostly to head up to Massachusetts
 
2013-04-27 01:04:00 PM  
Bloomburgh?
 
2013-04-27 01:06:52 PM  
I think  their Town Motto is: "Hey, at least we're not Hoboken!"
 
2013-04-27 01:08:05 PM  

Cuchulane: Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.


Why do you drive so fast?
 
2013-04-27 01:11:00 PM  

Cuchulane: HighlanderRPI: Cuchulane: Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.

That's the Town of Newburgh - the City of Newburgh is the shiathole right next door

There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?


Now you know the reason why postal workers snap.
 
2013-04-27 01:12:20 PM  
Driving from Vermont to Pensyltucky, I hop on the thruway and takr my ticket in Albany, drive to newburgh to get on 84, pay my price, exit, to 84, and ther's a farking stop sign.
From 87v to 84 a farking stop sign.

shiathole is a nice way of describing it.
They have a shiatty srtipclub, a shiatty knife store, and some shiatty places to eat.
 
2013-04-27 01:12:36 PM  

MacDole: HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse

Psh Troy is nothing compared to Schenectady.


Grew up in Rotterdam (parents still live there), lived in Troy for two years. When my dad told a co-worker where in Troy my apartment was she asked him WTF he was doing letting me live there (9th st). Troy is generally a shiathole.
 
2013-04-27 01:20:16 PM  

Amos Quito: Bloomburgh?


Otisburg.
 
2013-04-27 01:24:56 PM  

namegoeshere: skinink: Bullshiat. A Manhattan judge has some nerve saying that when Staten Island is right there next to Manhattan. And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo, Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.

Go to Newburgh. Because not even close.


I haven't been to Newburgh (and only to Troy a couple of times), but Fark off, skinink. Dansville is the only one of those that's kind of 'meh'. Geneseo is a solid college town, Corning is surprisingly nice for the region, especially since the glass company is doing well, and Rochester can be pretty awesome as long as you avoid certain neighborhoods.
 
2013-04-27 01:48:54 PM  

Cuchulane: There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?


That area has a lot of that. The Town of Kingston is next to the City of Kingston (and shares a zip-code). Ulster County contains within it a Town of Ulster.
 
2013-04-27 01:52:02 PM  
City of Newburgh reporting. two weeks ago i watched my friend get shot twice in broad daylight, resulting in him losing a kidney. they didn't even bother to mention it in the paper.
 
2013-04-27 01:52:05 PM  
Curtis Sliwa calls Newburgh "Camden on the Hudson."
 
2013-04-27 02:15:02 PM  
Binghamton appreciates the distraction, Newburgh. Seriously, keep up the good work.
 
2013-04-27 02:16:45 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Newburgh is a shiathole.

} lived in Beacon


Tragically, I did too....
 
2013-04-27 02:21:52 PM  
I'm pretty sure Brooklyn, Bronx and Nassau can also make a running for most pathetic in the State
 
2013-04-27 02:22:52 PM  
If you don't mind gusts of lead, Newburgh has some nice mansions begging for renovation near the river. I had a client who placed their office right in downtown Newburgh. There always seemed to be a new bullet hole in one of the windows whenever I ventured up there.
 
2013-04-27 02:28:48 PM  

Cuchulane: There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?


As I understand it, counties, for the most part, have their own legislatures, then are subdivided into towns, which are subdivided into villages, and services are shared between the towns and villages, with the villages organized under a statewide law that establishes a uniform charter for all of them. In a few cases, smaller places are also designated as hamlets, which I believe receive most of their services from the town, but also have some autonomy. Separately from that, some towns, by request, can designate themselves as cities, consolidate the villages and hamlets into one entity, and receive their own unique charter to provide almost all of their own services. Often, part of the original town was left out (typically a more rural area), meaning that the City is either neighbored by a Town of the same name or, in at least one case, completely surrounded by it.

To outsiders, it may seem like the state is crushed under the weight of a medieval bureaucracy, but it's a system that has really worked well since William the Conqueror first imposed it on us.

/ Just got no-fault divorce like, last year or something.
 
2013-04-27 02:30:31 PM  

Teetotaler: I'm pretty sure Brooklyn, Bronx and Nassau can also make a running for most pathetic in the State


Not even close. Newburgh was one of the few places on earth where I was afraid to go in the daytime. I never had that feeling in all my years in the Bronx. Newburgh is totally Detroit on the Hudson.
 
2013-04-27 02:32:22 PM  

special20: Cuchulane: Newburgh is an important waypoint for me to set my GPS to so that I can go 84 to 87 to bypass 95 through NYC when heading south. That's the extent of my knowledge of Newburgh. It has a permanent place in my GPS saved locations.

Why do you drive so fast?


I can't drive 55.
 
2013-04-27 02:37:29 PM  

Teetotaler: I'm pretty sure Brooklyn, Bronx and Nassau can also make a running for most pathetic in the State


When, 30 years ago? All three are in the middle of gentrification.

/Although poor hipsters are pretty pathetic.
 
2013-04-27 02:46:39 PM  

freewill: Cuchulane: There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?

As I understand it, counties, for the most part, have their own legislatures, then are subdivided into towns, which are subdivided into villages, and services are shared between the towns and villages, with the villages organized under a statewide law that establishes a uniform charter for all of them. In a few cases, smaller places are also designated as hamlets, which I believe receive most of their services from the town, but also have some autonomy. Separately from that, some towns, by request, can designate themselves as cities, consolidate the villages and hamlets into one entity, and receive their own unique charter to provide almost all of their own services. Often, part of the original town was left out (typically a more rural area), meaning that the City is either neighbored by a Town of the same name or, in at least one case, completely surrounded by it.

To outsiders, it may seem like the state is crushed under the weight of a medieval bureaucracy, but it's a system that has really worked well since William the Conqueror first imposed it on us.

/ Just got no-fault divorce like, last year or something.


As I was reading that excellent summation, I could only think of one of my favorite Monty Python bits...


The Background to History
 
2013-04-27 02:47:41 PM  

LemSkroob: He isn't lying. You wouldn't expect towns nestled on the banks of the scenic Hudson river to be worse than Harlem in the 70s, but here we are.


So is that what nyc did with all its problems?
move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?
 
2013-04-27 02:51:44 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?


Not sure if it was a concerted effort, but yes.  Some Newburghers even refer to it as "The 6th Borough."
 
2013-04-27 02:58:14 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: teenage mutant ninja rapist: move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?

Not sure if it was a concerted effort, but yes.  Some Newburghers even refer to it as "The 6th Borough."


I would wafer it was. From what Ive seen in places like toronto and calgary. You never really clean up problem areas
they just get shuffled down the street or out of town.

was a particular corner in calgary called crack macs.
had a subway station and a macs convenience store.
hobos crazy people and addicts everywhere. It was scary at lunch time. Come night time you ran a serious risk of a crackhead stabbing.

couple years ago they tore the subway station out and moved it a few blocks down the street. In place of all the degenerates is a garbage can and a tree. Walk to the new station and you find where they all went.

so ya my impression is you never really fix a problem
you just give it to someone else
 
2013-04-27 02:58:23 PM  
I lived in Newburgh, it wasn't horrible. I did stay out of the worst parts of it, though. It could be worse; you could live in Poughkeepsie.
 
2013-04-27 03:02:13 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: It could be worse; you could live in Poughkeepsie.


Poughkeepsie is only #2 in violent crime.  Newburgh is #1.
 
2013-04-27 03:04:28 PM  

foxyshadis: Teetotaler: I'm pretty sure Brooklyn, Bronx and Nassau can also make a running for most pathetic in the State

When, 30 years ago? All three are in the middle of gentrification.

/Although poor hipsters are pretty pathetic.


You can't tell whether a true hipster is poor or not.
 
2013-04-27 03:06:22 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: LemSkroob: He isn't lying. You wouldn't expect towns nestled on the banks of the scenic Hudson river to be worse than Harlem in the 70s, but here we are.

So is that what nyc did with all its problems?
move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?


Yes. Thank you $1200/month 1 bedroom apartments.
 
2013-04-27 03:07:00 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


My father worked in Troy when I was a kid, and I went to college near Newburgh (New Paltz) but I have not been to either place in at least 30 years so any Troy-Newburgh comparison I could make would not be valid, I am sure they were both much better places in my day
 
2013-04-27 03:19:59 PM  
Sir Cumference the Flatulent:

Not even close. Newburgh was one of the few places on earth where I was afraid to go in the daytime. I never had that feeling in all my years in the Bronx. Newburgh is totally Detroit on the Hudson.

What are the other places you are afraid of going to?  If you don't mind me asking.
 
2013-04-27 03:21:09 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: TheHighlandHowler: teenage mutant ninja rapist: move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?

Not sure if it was a concerted effort, but yes.  Some Newburghers even refer to it as "The 6th Borough."

I would wafer it was. From what Ive seen in places like toronto and calgary. You never really clean up problem areas
they just get shuffled down the street or out of town.

was a particular corner in calgary called crack macs.
had a subway station and a macs convenience store.
hobos crazy people and addicts everywhere. It was scary at lunch time. Come night time you ran a serious risk of a crackhead stabbing.

couple years ago they tore the subway station out and moved it a few blocks down the street. In place of all the degenerates is a garbage can and a tree. Walk to the new station and you find where they all went.

so ya my impression is you never really fix a problem
you just give it to someone else


Yah.  Canadia.  Tough guy town.
 
2013-04-27 03:22:04 PM  
"Pathetic:  having the capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity."

Why take things negatively?
 
2013-04-27 03:23:28 PM  

freewill: Binghamton appreciates the distraction, Newburgh. Seriously, keep up the good work.


Having lived in both places for periods of about 10 years in the last 20, I have to say Binghamton gives Newburgh a good run for it's money, but Newburgh wins the race to the bottom.  Binghamton gets all sorts of crap for being a welfare magnet by design.  It is one of the INS's preferred resettling areas for certain ethnic groups seeking political asylum.  They also send their county Dept. of Social Services people out of state to promote Binghamton as a welfare services utopia.  They have a whole "It's Better in Binghamton" PR campaign that they bring down to social services expos in Charlotte, Atlanta, and others.  It is all part of a genius plan to boost the local population to elevate them to a more desirable category for qualifying for federal grants.  So, Binghamton does feel like a massive perpetually raining ghetto of unemployables.  But in terms of the actual physical danger factor, Newburgh wins.  I've walked down Front Street (Bing) at 1AM far too many times unscathed and that is supposedly one of the most dangerous places.  I was mugged in broad daylight on Gidney Ave. (Newburgh) just a block from the High School.  And Gidney Ave. is a nice street full of doctors' offices.  Seriously, Newburgh is that crazy nexus where upstate Meth makers, pot farmers and downstate dealers interact.  The local small-time dealers like to get cocky when the big NYC dealers come into town and then the guns come out.
 
2013-04-27 03:24:48 PM  

Fecacacophany: freewill: Binghamton appreciates the distraction, Newburgh. Seriously, keep up the good work.

Having lived in both places for periods of about 10 years in the last 20, I have to say Binghamton gives Newburgh a good run for it's money, but Newburgh wins the race to the bottom.  Binghamton gets all sorts of crap for being a welfare magnet by design.  It is one of the INS's preferred resettling areas for certain ethnic groups seeking political asylum.  They also send their county Dept. of Social Services people out of state to promote Binghamton as a welfare services utopia.  They have a whole "It's Better in Binghamton" PR campaign that they bring down to social services expos in Charlotte, Atlanta, and others.  It is all part of a genius plan to boost the local population to elevate them to a more desirable category for qualifying for federal grants.  So, Binghamton does feel like a massive perpetually raining ghetto of unemployables.  But in terms of the actual physical danger factor, Newburgh wins.  I've walked down Front Street (Bing) at 1AM far too many times unscathed and that is supposedly one of the most dangerous places.  I was mugged in broad daylight on Gidney Ave. (Newburgh) just a block from the High School.  And Gidney Ave. is a nice street full of doctors' offices.  Seriously, Newburgh is that crazy nexus where upstate Meth makers, pot farmers and downstate dealers interact.  The local small-time dealers like to get cocky when the big NYC dealers come into town and then the guns come out.


Herr Morgenstern: I lived in Newburgh, it wasn't horrible. I did stay out of the worst parts of it, though. It could be worse; you could live in Poughkeepsie.


I miss Underpass Man.
 
2013-04-27 03:24:52 PM  

MNguy: Sir Cumference the Flatulent:

Not even close. Newburgh was one of the few places on earth where I was afraid to go in the daytime. I never had that feeling in all my years in the Bronx. Newburgh is totally Detroit on the Hudson.

What are the other places you are afraid of going to?  If you don't mind me asking.


In the daytime? There were some areas of Manila where I really didn't think I should tread.
 
2013-04-27 03:27:05 PM  
Meh.
 
2013-04-27 03:27:18 PM  

MNguy: teenage mutant ninja rapist: TheHighlandHowler: teenage mutant ninja rapist: move em out of the city and into the smaller towns and citys in the state?

Not sure if it was a concerted effort, but yes.  Some Newburghers even refer to it as "The 6th Borough."

I would wafer it was. From what Ive seen in places like toronto and calgary. You never really clean up problem areas
they just get shuffled down the street or out of town.

was a particular corner in calgary called crack macs.
had a subway station and a macs convenience store.
hobos crazy people and addicts everywhere. It was scary at lunch time. Come night time you ran a serious risk of a crackhead stabbing.

couple years ago they tore the subway station out and moved it a few blocks down the street. In place of all the degenerates is a garbage can and a tree. Walk to the new station and you find where they all went.

so ya my impression is you never really fix a problem
you just give it to someone else

Yah.  Canadia.  Tough guy town.


You would be surprised. Not much in the way of gangs.
but lots of hobos and mental patients with nowhere to go.
Go on youtube and check out some videos of vancouvers lower eastside.

if you like waiting for a subway with people shooting up and smoking rocks thats your business.
most people find it unsettling to say the least
 
2013-04-27 03:39:54 PM  
skinink:And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo [sic], Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.

HA!  As someone who has lived in NYC for five years, is a current resident of Rochester, and has traveled NYS extensively, I beg to disagree.  A friend of mine grew up in Newburgh and moved to Chicago of all places because "it's safer than back home."  Quality of life in Geneseo is relatively high, and the college isn't that bad (it is one of the best performing public universities).  Dansville is quite nice; I have friends who own vacation property there.  Rochester is actually pretty neat and has a lot to offer.  If you're specifically talking about areas like Marketview Heights, Beechwood, Avenue D, Mayor's Heights, etc, I suggest you explore these areas by foot or bicycle like I do.  I've never had a problem, in fact, people are generally pretty nice to me.
 
2013-04-27 04:04:51 PM  

Fecacacophany: Fecacacophany: freewill: Binghamton appreciates the distraction, Newburgh. Seriously, keep up the good work.

Having lived in both places for periods of about 10 years in the last 20, I have to say Binghamton gives Newburgh a good run for it's money, but Newburgh wins the race to the bottom.  Binghamton gets all sorts of crap for being a welfare magnet by design.  It is one of the INS's preferred resettling areas for certain ethnic groups seeking political asylum.  They also send their county Dept. of Social Services people out of state to promote Binghamton as a welfare services utopia.  They have a whole "It's Better in Binghamton" PR campaign that they bring down to social services expos in Charlotte, Atlanta, and others.  It is all part of a genius plan to boost the local population to elevate them to a more desirable category for qualifying for federal grants.  So, Binghamton does feel like a massive perpetually raining ghetto of unemployables.  But in terms of the actual physical danger factor, Newburgh wins.  I've walked down Front Street (Bing) at 1AM far too many times unscathed and that is supposedly one of the most dangerous places.  I was mugged in broad daylight on Gidney Ave. (Newburgh) just a block from the High School.  And Gidney Ave. is a nice street full of doctors' offices.  Seriously, Newburgh is that crazy nexus where upstate Meth makers, pot farmers and downstate dealers interact.  The local small-time dealers like to get cocky when the big NYC dealers come into town and then the guns come out.

Herr Morgenstern: I lived in Newburgh, it wasn't horrible. I did stay out of the worst parts of it, though. It could be worse; you could live in Poughkeepsie.

I miss Underpass Man.


i had a tradition of giving him packs of Newports on holidays.
 
2013-04-27 04:17:47 PM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


...and what's the matter with Troy?
 
2013-04-27 04:29:02 PM  
i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-27 04:35:07 PM  

slimfast: [i39.tinypic.com image 640x480]


Their first place was Rock Tavern (not City of Newburgh) and the giant new headquarters is in the TOWN of Newburgh (not the city).
 
2013-04-27 04:36:15 PM  
 
2013-04-27 04:43:14 PM  

slimfast: "Saving Newburgh" trailer...


Old, but shows the petty bickering that is part of the problem.  In fact, the movie's tagline was (IIRC) "A movie about fighting for change, or maybe just fighting."
 
2013-04-27 04:53:27 PM  
At one point I used to live right outside Newburgh and I wholeheartedly concur that it was a dump back then and pretty sure it hasn't gotten any better.
To this day when I see the word Newburgh I immediately think of crime, disease, crack, and whores.
 
2013-04-27 05:13:05 PM  
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2013-04-27 05:18:46 PM  

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2013-04-27 05:40:38 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Teetotaler: I'm pretty sure Brooklyn, Bronx and Nassau can also make a running for most pathetic in the State

Not even close. Newburgh was one of the few places on earth where I was afraid to go in the daytime. I never had that feeling in all my years in the Bronx. Newburgh is totally Detroit on the Hudson.


^^^ This.  I haven't been to Nassau much, so I can't say though.  But the only two places I have been into that made me feel frightened in the day were Newburgh and parts of Yonkers.

I did get chased by a dog in the south Bronx one time.  But I think that was a fluke
 
2013-04-27 07:33:55 PM  

t3knomanser: Cuchulane: There's a town of Newburgh next to a City of Newburgh?

That area has a lot of that. The Town of Kingston is next to the City of Kingston (and shares a zip-code). Ulster County contains within it a Town of Ulster.


You forgot:

Highland...Highland Falls....Highland Mills

Town of Wallkill...village of Wallkill - and the easy way to remember which is which, is to remember everybody in the Town of Wallkill says they live in Middletown.

///has lived in Middletown all my life, and everyday everyone here thanks God for Newburgh, as it makes Middletown look like Paris.
 
2013-04-27 07:42:27 PM  

skinink: Bullshiat. A Manhattan judge has some nerve saying that when Staten Island is right there next to Manhattan. And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo, Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.


Sister went to SUNY Geneseo, she's lived in Rochester over 30 years now -  - trust me, as a life long Middletown residemt, Newburgh is the WORST...

///for a long time in the 60s/70s/80s, the Middletown tradition was to lose your cherry to a Newburgh whore...
 
2013-04-27 07:56:21 PM  
as a midwesterner, is this place worst than Harlem? surely it can't be worst than East St. Louis or North St. Louis city. Some parts are like scenes straight out of Robocop.
 
2013-04-27 08:01:12 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: as a midwesterner, is this place worst than Harlem? surely it can't be worst than East St. Louis or North St. Louis city. Some parts are like scenes straight out of Robocop.


it's a shiathole. i live on the south side near the river, which is considered the (slightly)better side normally, but still guns going off all night. when someone refers to their town/city as a 'shiathole' i laugh, inside. it is that bad. it's a free for all.
 
2013-04-27 08:24:22 PM  
i'd like to defend Newburgh though, for a minute. it's a great place to live if you don't care for laws yourself. you can go out at night and shoot guns, drink beer on the street, smoke weed *anywhere*. if you're the murderin' type, the chances of ever being caught are pretty slim if no one sees you. i don't believe anyone has ever called the police to complain about gunshots, let alone loud music.

Come to Newburgh, the best place on the Hudson to not give a fark.
 
2013-04-27 08:27:44 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Newburgh-Beacon is nice to drive over the river and through.

/would stop at Fishkill beforehand for lunch


That is because Fishkill is awesome.
 
2013-04-27 09:00:48 PM  

zeppo: Highland...Highland Falls....Highland Mills


Highland Falls is in the town of Highlands. The town of Highland without the S is out in Sullivan County and has nothing to do with the hamlet of Highland which is in the town of...Lloyd.
 
2013-04-27 09:32:01 PM  

vudukungfu: Driving from Vermont to Pensyltucky, I hop on the thruway and takr my ticket in Albany, drive to newburgh to get on 84, pay my price, exit, to 84, and ther's a farking stop sign.
From 87v to 84 a farking stop sign.

shiathole is a nice way of describing it.
They have a shiatty srtipclub, a shiatty knife store, and some shiatty places to eat.


The 84/87 interchange was rebuilt a couple years ago and is more like an actual exit now. If all you want to do is get from one interstate to the other, no more stop signs or signals.

Il Cena'colo is a DAMN good restaurant in Newburgh.

How come nobody's brough up Utica?
 
2013-04-27 09:37:37 PM  

Gulper Eel: zeppo: Highland...Highland Falls....Highland Mills

Highland Falls is in the town of Highlands. The town of Highland without the S is out in Sullivan County and has nothing to do with the hamlet of Highland which is in the town of...Lloyd.


Highland is the village/hamlet at the west end of the Mid Hudson Bridge
Highland Falls is the village that is right next to the USMA at West Point
Highland MILLS is a village in the town of Monroe that is just north of the Woodbury Commons mega outlet center.
 
2013-04-27 09:48:18 PM  
Holy crap, I just drove through downtown Newburgh for the very first time today, and I'd have to totally agree with the judge.

Seriously, I was just in East New York, Brooklyn last week, and Newburgh is way more rundown and depressing than that.

Nice views of the Hudson, though.
 
2013-04-27 09:57:57 PM  

sociodemographic: skinink:And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo [sic], Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.

HA!  As someone who has lived in NYC for five years, is a current resident of Rochester, and has traveled NYS extensively, I beg to disagree.  A friend of mine grew up in Newburgh and moved to Chicago of all places because "it's safer than back home."  Quality of life in Geneseo is relatively high, and the college isn't that bad (it is one of the best performing public universities).  Dansville is quite nice; I have friends who own vacation property there.  Rochester is actually pretty neat and has a lot to offer.  If you're specifically talking about areas like Marketview Heights, Beechwood, Avenue D, Mayor's Heights, etc, I suggest you explore these areas by foot or bicycle like I do.  I've never had a problem, in fact, people are generally pretty nice to me.


I enjoyed the Old Dinosaur BBQ in Rochester. And they have that cool waterfall right near downtown.
 
2013-04-27 10:58:28 PM  
Live in the Rochester suburbs, the area has a lot to offer for being a small city. The city has areas that have the same problems all cities do but there are some great neighborhoods. The summer has some sort of festival every weekend and there is a top notch Jazz Festival every June.
 
2013-04-27 11:06:56 PM  

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: sociodemographic: skinink:And furthermore, though I've never been to Newburgh, I have been to Rochester as well as Genneseo [sic], Dansville and Corning NY. I bet those places could give Newburgh a challenge as the worst place in NY State.

HA!  As someone who has lived in NYC for five years, is a current resident of Rochester, and has traveled NYS extensively, I beg to disagree.  A friend of mine grew up in Newburgh and moved to Chicago of all places because "it's safer than back home."  Quality of life in Geneseo is relatively high, and the college isn't that bad (it is one of the best performing public universities).  Dansville is quite nice; I have friends who own vacation property there.  Rochester is actually pretty neat and has a lot to offer.  If you're specifically talking about areas like Marketview Heights, Beechwood, Avenue D, Mayor's Heights, etc, I suggest you explore these areas by foot or bicycle like I do.  I've never had a problem, in fact, people are generally pretty nice to me.

I enjoyed the Old Dinosaur BBQ in Rochester. And they have that cool waterfall right near downtown.


Rochester is a pretty cool city - lots of great places to eat, a music scene that is disproportionate to its size,  lots of things to do in general. But yeah - TONS of good places to eat, I mean, you can even have a great meal at the supermarket (Wegman's, of course).
 
2013-04-27 11:19:42 PM  

praymantis: Live in the Rochester suburbs, the area has a lot to offer for being a small city. The city has areas that have the same problems all cities do but there are some great neighborhoods. The summer has some sort of festival every weekend and there is a top notch Jazz Festival every June.


Mantis, my sister has lived in what is lovingly called Swillburg for over 30 years. She works for the Landmark Society, and runs a nice thing called Ghost Walk a couple of weekends in October - you should check it out!

And when was your last garbage plate? :P
 
2013-04-27 11:19:58 PM  
Next time you are in Rochester check this place out


http://www.geneseebeer.com/brew-house

It is on St.Paul Blvd next to the Genesee Brewery it over looks high falls great place for a brew and dinner.
 
2013-04-27 11:24:49 PM  

zeppo: praymantis: Live in the Rochester suburbs, the area has a lot to offer for being a small city. The city has areas that have the same problems all cities do but there are some great neighborhoods. The summer has some sort of festival every weekend and there is a top notch Jazz Festival every June.

Mantis, my sister has lived in what is lovingly called Swillburg for over 30 years. She works for the Landmark Society, and runs a nice thing called Ghost Walk a couple of weekends in October - you should check it out!

And when was your last garbage plate? :P


my last garbage plate was about a month ago! The swillburg neighborhood is a very cool eclectic area, I have heard of the ghost walk but have never been. There is a great restaurant right on the border of Swillburg and the Southwedge neighborhoods called Rooney's check it out next time you are in town.
 
2013-04-28 12:36:47 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: I lived in Newburgh, it wasn't horrible. I did stay out of the worst parts of it, though. It could be worse; you could live in Poughkeepsie.


===============

Pick your feet in Poughkeepsie?
 
2013-04-28 01:21:21 AM  
Newburgh does suck, and I go to and through there frequently for work. It's like the Poughkeepsie of Orange county.
 
2013-04-28 04:23:00 AM  

HighlanderRPI: Having been to Troy, NY and Newburgh, NY - I strongly disagree.

Troy is worse


Having Lived in Schenectady I can tell you you, and the judge are wrong
 
2013-04-28 09:05:36 AM  
I think  their Town Motto is: "Hey, at least we're not Hoboken!"
Know how I know they haven't been here recently?
 
2013-04-28 10:22:54 PM  

praymantis: zeppo: praymantis:


Lived in the Southwedge for several years. Rochester and the surrounding towns are filled with great people.
 
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