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(Digital Spy)   Is the TARDIS finally going to take care of the Clara mystery? Will Suranne Jones show up again for a sexy party? Is the ghost of Adric wandering the corridors? It's Doctor Who: 'Journey to the Center of the TARDIS', 8 pm on BBC America   (digitalspy.com) divider line 159
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2013-04-27 11:20:29 AM
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2013-04-27 12:04:39 PM
I had a plot-related comment, but Arthur Jumbles' image made me forget everything but how I want to go buy Armor All and a chamois.
 
2013-04-27 02:07:59 PM

Arthur Jumbles: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1065]


What? what tv show or movie did she wear that in?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

She looks like a thin version of a larrrge woman I dated a few times.
 
2013-04-27 04:39:39 PM
i48.photobucket.com No, because the TARDIS's consciousness only inhabited the body if Idris....Idris was not a physical manifestation...
 
2013-04-27 07:21:22 PM

Arthur Jumbles: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1065]


You've derailed the thread before it got started.  Will they show the swimming pool?

/Never get on a spaceship with a mad man.
 
2013-04-27 07:35:46 PM
Good episode, but I didn't really care for the ending. Not a fan of reset buttons.

I am really looking forward to next week's episode based on the preview.
 
2013-04-27 07:42:19 PM

NeoCortex42: Good episode, but I didn't really care for the ending. Not a fan of reset buttons.

I am really looking forward to next week's episode based on the preview.


Yeah, the reset button bit was kind of a problem. I mean, I had a feeling that when we found out time was leaking that the episode was going to hit the reset button at the end, but I didn't think literally.
 
2013-04-27 07:42:58 PM

Nefarious: You've derailed the thread before it got started.  Will they show the swimming pool?


yes!

otherwise the episode sucked.

This season's been pretty disappointing so far.

/next week's has promise
 
2013-04-27 07:45:34 PM
It's pretty funny that Dr. Who is so over-the-top in trying to be socially conscious, but each companion seems to get hotter than the last.  Not likely to see a Rebel Wilson picking up the mantle, are we?

/not that I am complaining, believe you me
 
2013-04-27 07:46:44 PM
I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.
 
2013-04-27 07:49:10 PM

over_and_done: I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.


Are they still chopping it up?  It's bad enough that the inserted commercials kill the pacing.
 
2013-04-27 07:51:54 PM

over_and_done: I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.


I always grab the torrent of the BBC airing shortly after it airs.
 
2013-04-27 08:07:10 PM
Will a Doctor Who fan ever have consensual sex?
 
2013-04-27 08:10:48 PM
I'm over Dr Who while Matt Smith is still around. I'll wait for a good actor.
 
2013-04-27 08:15:39 PM
I liked the episode. I think it could have been done better as a two parter though. There is just so much going on in the TARDIS and they really could have fleshed it out more, especially since we probably won't have a TARDIS centric episode again any time soon. There could have been a bigger tie in with the Time War and the Doctor's name and how it relates to the upcoming Fields of Trenzalore and the first question. It also left the salvager story line a bit weak. They had to rush through the emotional part and a minute later they were basically killed and the Doctor and Clara didn't seem to care.

Getting to see the Eye of Harmony was cool and you find out why it is called that. A star exploding while also collapsing into a black hole but balanced out to provide almost limitless power. The continued personification of the TARDIS was good too and man has the TARDIS been taking a beating since the 11th Doctor got it.

The mystery of Clara is also getting a bit more intriguing. The entire season has been about the Doctor trying to subtly find clues about Clara and now he finally confronts her and it's still a big mystery. There are no hints as to how she has died twice, no clues, no anything. She is perfectly ordinary. The fact she was hooked up to the Great Intelligence for a little bit is the only weird thing about her.
 
2013-04-27 08:16:36 PM

NeoCortex42: over_and_done: I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.

Are they still chopping it up?  It's bad enough that the inserted commercials kill the pacing.


The initial airing is the full version, the subsequent ones are chopped up crap.
 
2013-04-27 08:34:36 PM
I liked this episode. It's possibly the best one of the new season, and next week's looks damn good too. It also appears that they used a considerable amount of this season's budget here.

The way The Doctor has been portrayed recently, I almost feel like Moffat recently had a meeting with Andrew Cartmel in which they discussed the old "Masterplan" that never got to happen. I just rewatched Series 5, and the difference in Matt Smith's Doctor is pretty huge. Before, it was all childish glee at everything, and now he seems guarded and suspicious of everything. It's like he's getting to do all the things Sylvester McCoy never got to do.
 
2013-04-27 08:49:16 PM
So I'm watching on like a 2-3 week On Demand lag (last watched the Russian sub episode) and I'm not really sure what to think. There were a few good Pond and Rory episodes to wrap up their storyline, but then as soon as Clara came around, we're back to what amounts to filler episodes. They're still enjoyable, yeah, but I'm not getting the sense that there's some overarching story here.

We know how Clara dies, and it's intriguing to me that she was so interesting to the Doctor that he met up with her in an earlier form (and in the process created the person he went back to recruit) but there's an obvious question here. Dalek Clara should have remembered the Doctor, no? Is there more to this season?
 
2013-04-27 08:54:30 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So I'm watching on like a 2-3 week On Demand lag (last watched the Russian sub episode) and I'm not really sure what to think. There were a few good Pond and Rory episodes to wrap up their storyline, but then as soon as Clara came around, we're back to what amounts to filler episodes. They're still enjoyable, yeah, but I'm not getting the sense that there's some overarching story here.

We know how Clara dies, and it's intriguing to me that she was so interesting to the Doctor that he met up with her in an earlier form (and in the process created the person he went back to recruit) but there's an obvious question here. Dalek Clara should have remembered the Doctor, no? Is there more to this season?


It's not yet clear what the deal with Clara is. We have seen her in three separate time periods so far. In each one, she seems to be a different person, but still 'Clara'. That's the big plot for this half-season.
 
2013-04-27 09:00:01 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Dalek Clara should have remembered the Doctor, no? Is there more to this season?


Each Clara is a separate entity, so no. And you should probably be keeping up to date courtesy of the internet like everyone else.
 
2013-04-27 09:05:25 PM

Arthur Jumbles: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1065]


NSFW, but I'm sure people have seen it
 
2013-04-27 09:10:31 PM
BravadoGT: Not likely to see a Rebel Wilson picking up the mantle, are we?

Doctor who involves lots of running, so no.
 
2013-04-27 09:10:49 PM

NeoCortex42: Good episode, but I didn't really care for the ending. Not a fan of reset buttons.

I am really looking forward to next week's episode based on the preview.


Yeah, this was pretty much what I HATE - a huge plot revelation, then wipe it all out with a reset button.  Come on, let's just get on with it.
 
2013-04-27 09:16:26 PM
Why is this on the entertainment tab tardmitter? GEEK tab!

Listen or I else I'll sacrifice one of my Tardis lamps to the Geekgoddess to ensure you won't get laid for the next 10 years and all shoes you shop for will be fugly plus the Ellen show will be cancelled. (This should cover whether you are a man, woman or gay man or gay woman....or any combo of the above.)
 
2013-04-27 09:24:53 PM

over_and_done: I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.


There's this wonderful new invention called a torrent, you may have heard of it.
 
2013-04-27 09:29:15 PM

diaphoresis: I'm over Dr Who while Matt Smith is still around. I'll wait for a good actor.


99% sure you've never seen a single classic Who episode since those are the only people who don't like 11.  Also because you spelled it Dr.  Also because you seem like a dick.
 
2013-04-27 09:48:21 PM
The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.
 
2013-04-27 09:49:51 PM
Arthur Jumbles:
2.bp.blogspot.com

I bet she must be basting in her own juices in that trashbag. Probably has a litre of sweat percolating inside and it stunk like a gym sock after she had it removed too.
 
2013-04-27 09:53:02 PM

Jaws_Victim: The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.


'The black guy dies' isn't exactly a new or unique trope when it comes to sci-fi/horror stories.
 
2013-04-27 09:53:32 PM

Tax Boy: Nefarious: You've derailed the thread before it got started.  Will they show the swimming pool?

yes!

otherwise the episode sucked.


I always thought that the swimming pool room was jettisoned along with the Zero Room when Nyssa & Tegan cast off 1/4 of the TARDIS to escape The Big Bang.
 
2013-04-27 10:04:41 PM

NeoCortex42: Jaws_Victim: The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.

'The black guy dies' isn't exactly a new or unique trope when it comes to sci-fi/horror stories.


I didn't say it was new. It's annoying and racist.
 
2013-04-27 10:08:19 PM

Jaws_Victim: NeoCortex42: Jaws_Victim: The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.

'The black guy dies' isn't exactly a new or unique trope when it comes to sci-fi/horror stories.

I didn't say it was new. It's annoying and racist.


Well, 5% of the UK is black.  So 5% of the deaths on Doctor Who should be black.  Clearly we need to do some research to determine if Doctor Who is, in fact, racist.
 
2013-04-27 10:12:31 PM

Jaws_Victim: NeoCortex42: Jaws_Victim: The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.

'The black guy dies' isn't exactly a new or unique trope when it comes to sci-fi/horror stories.

I didn't say it was new. It's annoying and racist.


Um, they're all brothers. Not "brothers," but literally brothers. If one's black, the other two would have to be black for that subplot to actually work. What do you have against small business owners of African descent in space? Are you with the BNP?
 
2013-04-27 10:18:22 PM
Just watched it.  I spent most of the episode on the edge of my seat.  I really enjoyed this one.  Got an 'Alien' vibe off the episode (Salvage ship, android crew member, killer alien in the darkness hunting the crew one by one).  Really great to see more of the TARDIS.  The Geometrical Stabilizer had been mentioned in the audio play 'The Haunting of Thomas Brewster'.  Not an expert on the classic series so I don't know if it had been mentioned before.  Also not the first time it had been suggested that the TARDIS interior was fluid enough to shift the interior.  But if I recall, that was the explanation #4 gave to Leela about how he had the wooden console room as well as the white classic console room.  Seeing the Eye of Harmony was a great bit, though I was under the impression that it was already a black hole, not a slowly collapsing star.  Though in the audio play Zagreus, it was revealed that Rassilon pulled a star, detonated it and then froze it in time, at the point of destruction and kept it in his foundry.  Orbiting that star was a planet that Rassilon feared might evolve a race that would rival the Time Lords, which is why he destroyed that star before they could even evolve.

There were also parts that reminded me of Star Trek.  That guy's eyes reminded me of Geordi's eyes in Star Treks 8, 9 and 10.  Getting lost in the ship and walking around in circles while walking a straight line was in the Voyager episode 'Twisted'.  And the reveal that the android wasn't really an android but a brother who's memory was wiped was similar to Worf's brother Kern, who's memory was wiped on purpose and was told that he was someone else.  Even the exploding engine reminded me of the Star Trek TNG episode 'Timescape' where the Enterprise was suspended in very slow moving time and there was a warp core breech in progress (and Picard drew a happy face in it).

The reset was a bit of a pisser ending.  However, it did answer the question of how that grenade like device made it into the console room, and it was hinted at the possibility that the ending wasn't a total reset.  The dirt bag brother did start to show a bit of decency, so it does make one wonder just how much wasn't reset. For all we know, Clara still knows the Doctor's name.
 
2013-04-27 10:19:54 PM
The answer was yes.
 
2013-04-27 10:26:51 PM
Great Janitor:

The reset was a bit of a pisser ending.  However, it did answer the question of how that grenade like device made it into the console room, and it was hinted at the possibility that the ending wasn't a total reset.  The dirt bag brother did start to show a bit of decency, so it does make one wonder just how much wasn't reset. For all we know, Clara still knows the Doctor's name. I'm inclined to think that it's not a total reset, but who knows just how much Clara still remembers, and even if she doesn't remember it now, that doesn't mean she won't remember in the future. The show has already established that when a reset button gets hit, the people closest to it still remember--Martha's family still remembered the Master's shenanigans.
 
2013-04-27 10:35:34 PM
In the first two incarnations of Clara, she was gutsy and pretty fearless. Since she started traveling with The Doctor, she hasn't done much beyond arguing with the TARDIS and acting more screamy and girly than a proper companion should.
 
2013-04-27 10:37:33 PM

Jocundry: Clearly we need to do some research to determine if Doctor Who is, in fact, racist.


I submit into evidence "Tomb of the Cybermen". Sure, it was the 60s, but  daaaaaaamn.

NeoCortex42: Not a fan of reset buttons.


But what about the lampshade? They put one  hell of a lampshade over that reset button.
 
2013-04-27 10:42:54 PM

notyomama: In the first two incarnations of Clara, she was gutsy and pretty fearless. Since she started traveling with The Doctor, she hasn't done much beyond arguing with the TARDIS and acting more screamy and girly than a proper companion should.


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Dalek Clara and Victorian Clara had personality too. Contemporary Clara was clever in her debut episode, but has since been as dull as wallpaper.

I don't blame the actress. The scripts this 1/2 season have seriously lacked punch so far. And I'm none too keen on what looks like it might be a backstory-revealing finale. The Doctor has gotten along fine for 50 years with a sketchy backstory. The survivor-of-the-Time-War thing was a nice additional piece for the new series. But as a fan since '79, I can say with conviction that I don't want to know the Doctor's name or his history in some big reveal, and it's looking like that's where Moffat is heading.
 
2013-04-27 10:43:00 PM

Great Janitor: .  Even the exploding engine reminded me of the Star Trek TNG episode 'Timescape' where the Enterprise was suspended in very slow moving time and there was a warp core breech in progress (and Picard drew a happy face in it).


That was the first thing I thought of when they went into the heart of the TARDIS.

over_and_done: I have GOT to find some way of getting the current season's episodes without the crappy BBC America re-edits and chopping up.


Torrents, or find yourself a British proxy and watch the show on-line on the regular BBC.
 
2013-04-27 10:45:04 PM

Jaws_Victim: The first thing I thought was "Oh look, 3 black men. I wonder when they all die." And then they all died. This is something I've noticed since the Tennant days, black characters are almost always killed off. It's been unsettling and it still is. The only three examples I can bother to remember right now are the midnight entity with the hostess giving her life, the man who got turned into a dalek in the first clara episode, this one. Um, one of the first episodes where that tree woman who was black killed herself to save the doctor...There are more but I can't remember them all.

Also, once I saw the victorian setting for the next episode preview I remember thinking "I wonder where the lesbian lizard and her wife are." Then they showed up in the preview. Not surprised.


Which goes to prove once again that your average overly race sensitive asshole will find racism anywhere.

/No love for Mickey and Martha eh?
//Or Rosita in "The Next Doctor?"
 
2013-04-27 10:45:29 PM
Say did this episode explain why the TARDIS exploded back in Season 5?

/that would be neat/
 
2013-04-27 10:46:03 PM

100 Watt Walrus: But as a fan since '79, I can say with conviction that I don't want to know the Doctor's name or his history in some big reveal


The Doctor's name is "The Doctor", and his history is that he was a fairly normal Timelord, until one day, when a TARDIS stole him and they went off to have adventures.

Anything contradicting this is preemptively wrong.
 
2013-04-27 10:46:38 PM

t3knomanser: Jocundry: Clearly we need to do some research to determine if Doctor Who is, in fact, racist.

I submit into evidence "Tomb of the Cybermen". Sure, it was the 60s, but  daaaaaaamn.


If I've seen that one, it's been 20 years and I was probably about 10 years old.  Was it full of black redshirts?
 
2013-04-27 11:00:19 PM
I would suggest Expatshield.com for those having problems with BBCA.  As for the episode, I enjoyed it and am looking forward to finding out more of the Clara mystery.  Also, next week - Return of the Potato One!
 
2013-04-27 11:06:28 PM

notyomama: In the first two incarnations of Clara, she was gutsy and pretty fearless. Since she started traveling with The Doctor, she hasn't done much beyond arguing with the TARDIS and acting more screamy and girly than a proper companion should.


My theory is that the Dalek Clara and the Victorian Clara were experienced adventuring Claras.  This Clara has the spirit, but not the experience.  I'm sure that next season Clara will be more like the other two Claras.
 
2013-04-27 11:08:48 PM

TV's Vinnie: Arthur Jumbles:
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1065]

I bet she must be basting in her own juices in that trashbag. Probably has a litre of sweat percolating inside and it stunk like a gym sock after she had it removed too.

 
2013-04-27 11:10:26 PM

Public Call Box: Say did this episode explain why the TARDIS exploded back in Season 5?

/that would be neat/


I wondered that myself, especially with the time crack that The Doctor had to reach through.
 
2013-04-27 11:10:40 PM

Jocundry: t3knomanser: Jocundry: Clearly we need to do some research to determine if Doctor Who is, in fact, racist.

I submit into evidence "Tomb of the Cybermen". Sure, it was the 60s, but  daaaaaaamn.

If I've seen that one, it's been 20 years and I was probably about 10 years old.  Was it full of black redshirts?


That sounds about right, as far as seeing it 20 years ago. It was rediscovered in 1992, and there was a big to do about it being discovered.

And no, no black redshirts, just monosyllabic black man as hired muscle.
 
2013-04-27 11:18:50 PM

Great Janitor: notyomama: In the first two incarnations of Clara, she was gutsy and pretty fearless. Since she started traveling with The Doctor, she hasn't done much beyond arguing with the TARDIS and acting more screamy and girly than a proper companion should.

My theory is that the Dalek Clara and the Victorian Clara were experienced adventuring Claras.  This Clara has the spirit, but not the experience.  I'm sure that next season Clara will be more like the other two Claras.


Yeah, this is Clara prime, so to speak. The others had things like the tech skill that she picked up in the first episode with the 'real' Clara- so presumably, she gets exploded across time and space after she's acquired those skills that we eventually see. Basically, we've seen the finished product, and now we're watching it form, and in the process of unraveling things, the Doctor and Clara are probably going to cause it.

There's been enough consistency with the current Clara's discomfort and hesitancy that makes me pretty confident in saying that Moffat has her development pretty well plotted out.
 
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