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2013-04-26 11:07:19 PM  
A shark on whiskey is mighty risky;
A shark on beer is a beer engineer.
 
2013-04-26 11:07:25 PM  

Shyla: I think a LOT of it has to do with what you think about the particular liquor before you drink it. I know SO many people that say they are a "mean" drunk on tequila. I think so many people hear that, that when they drink it they think being an arsehole is fine, so they are. Then later it's.... see! tequila makes me mean! At one point I could drink tequila like water, and because it was my preference, it was often the main drink at get-togethers. I was around many of those "tequila makes me a mean drunk" people and saw no difference.

I know the first time I had Jagermeister though, I had 3 shots and was gone - carried out of the bar by my boyfriend and came to much later saying "what happened?" and I was a very experienced drunk at that time.

And I don't think Absinthe counts since it has some kind of hallucinogen in it. It's why it was banned for so long.


Back when I was clubbing, well way back then I would order a beer and two shot's of Jager and would dance all night, normally I'm really shy but that was my formula. Oh and a properly made B-52 is good as well but those are hard to come by : /
 
2013-04-26 11:07:29 PM  
They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.
 
2013-04-26 11:08:36 PM  
In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.
 
2013-04-26 11:09:08 PM  
I'm pretty sure drinking energy drinks (or poweraid) with booze helps it absorb faster. I also remember that carbonation helps you absorb it faster. I don't have sources, but as I am drinking right now, I don't need them!
 
2013-04-26 11:09:51 PM  
I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.
 
2013-04-26 11:09:55 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Lt. Cheese Weasel: cj1319: I don't know if it was a different kind of drunk, but the few times I got drunk off of tequila, I usually make much worse decisions than when I drank anything else.

Did you ever wake up in the fountain of your apt complex with just one boot and a pair of tighty whites on and nothing else? Agave is evil.

Got that beat.  Woke up on a Sunday morning on the front lawn of a church, with the bells ringing and people heading inside for services, all looking at me.  All courtesy of lots of saki.


I was awakened one New Years Day by a janitor buffing the floors in a school. No idea how I got in. I turned down a ride home and tried to walk to a friend's house when it was below zero out.
 
2013-04-26 11:13:40 PM  
Boone' Farm.  Liquid panty remover.
 
2013-04-26 11:14:18 PM  
When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.
 
2013-04-26 11:14:58 PM  
Back in my Navy drinking days, Tekillya was the one that made me vomit every time. I don't think because the ethanol was any different, but the Tekillya shots always seemed to come after hours of drinking and just put the icing on the cake. Ughhh...I don't touch that stuff anymore.
 
2013-04-26 11:15:56 PM  

BigLuca: When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.


go on...
 
2013-04-26 11:17:17 PM  

FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.


Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )
 
2013-04-26 11:18:16 PM  

BigLuca: When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.


LOL : )
 
2013-04-26 11:18:55 PM  

sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?


Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.
 
2013-04-26 11:19:18 PM  
I see a lot of people saying tequila is their worst poison. For me it's malt liquor. Yeah tequila gets me extra drunk just like anyone else, but malt liquor makes me do extra stupid stuff too. I lost a good friend because of a malt liquor drunk and I've swore it off ever since.
 
2013-04-26 11:20:00 PM  

JesseL: sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?

Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.


According to the science of homeopathy, the active ingredient is the one you have the least of.
 
2013-04-26 11:21:33 PM  

Yogimus: JesseL: sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?

Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.

According to the science of homeopathy, the active ingredient is the one you have the least of.


Makes it easy to OD.
 
2013-04-26 11:21:41 PM  

wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.


Pretty much that. Loads of people hear stories from friends and older siblings about what they did while drinking what kind of alcohol and it influences them. Personally for me alcohol is a mood amplifier, it doesn't matter what kind of alcohol I'm drinking. If I was having a decent time when I started to drink, by the time I'm drunk I'm having a great time. If I'm kind of down and drinking, I get depressed. And on the very rare occasion I'm angry when I'm drinking I get really angry.

Here and there I seem to go through phases where I like a specific drink and will drink them almost exclusively for a while. White Russians, brandy old fashioneds, rum and coke, vodka and fruit punch energy drinks, irish coffees, whiskey and cokes, grasshoppers, screwdrivers, plain old beer,  etc. The only real inconsistency when I go through those streaks is the occasional shot of Jaeger. I despise pretty much any other shot of straight liquor, although the very rare apple jack, or baby guiness shot isn't unheard of.
 
2013-04-26 11:23:07 PM  
You learn about congeners the first time you drink a batch of homemade wine and feel "weird" drunk.
 
2013-04-26 11:25:00 PM  
I know a few people who are forbidden by their peers to drink whisky.

They get punchy. Real punchy.
 
2013-04-26 11:26:19 PM  
cheap, effective and always in control (just pour it into a more expensive bottle).

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2013-04-26 11:31:16 PM  

Atomic Spunk: They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.


There is science backing that claim up (amount of THC, percentages of various cannibanoids, etc).

I will tell you I spent about ten years smoking without noticing the differences. Then one day, I had a strong sativa. My first panic attack ensued - fun times. Indica strains do not cause this.

Further, indica plants and sativa plants also look totally different. It's not an "ethanol is ethanol" situation.
 
2013-04-26 11:32:55 PM  
Unless you're on an airplane or in South Carolina, your one mixed drink is more like two or three. Beer, OTOH, is kind of hard to over-pour...
 
2013-04-26 11:37:46 PM  
Whiskey's too rough,
Champagne costs too much,
And vodka puts my mouth in gear.
This little refrain will help me explain,
As a matter of fact, I like beer.
(He likes BEER!)

Tom T. Hall
 
2013-04-26 11:38:14 PM  
Al alcohol has the same immediate effect. It's the hangovers that vary.
 
2013-04-26 11:39:16 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: scotch = drink entire bottle
wine = death

That's for me at any rate.


scotch = drink entire bottle
vodka = embarrassment to humanity
.
Back when I would drink the stuff anyway. I stick to beer and whisky or wine now.
 
2013-04-26 11:40:16 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne


Chug 8 ounces of Old Grand Dad while standing on one leg in the middle of a strip club.  I missed five classes the next day, even though I was physically present in all of them.
 
2013-04-26 11:40:30 PM  

poot_rootbeer: A shark on whiskey is mighty risky;
A shark on beer is a beer engineer.


Dr. Worm is that you?
 
2013-04-26 11:41:03 PM  
Sailor Jerry site

Sailor Jerry Rum makes my clothes come off and I dance around. No other alcohol does this.

Ouzo makes my legs from my knees down anesthetized.
 
2013-04-26 11:47:25 PM  
Next up: "Do different kinds of ibuprofen offer different kinds of anti-inflammatory pain relief?" and our exciting exposé, "Diphenhydramine HCl makes people sleepy even when it's in a different colored pill!"
 
2013-04-26 11:49:38 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne

Chug 8 ounces of Old Grand Dad while standing on one leg in the middle of a strip club.  I missed five classes the next day, even though I was physically present in all of them.


Worst hangover I ever had was a night I went to hang out with an old Army buddy when got stationed near where he lived. For some gods be damned reason I thought I was about 10 years younger and could still drink like a fish the way we used to when we were in our early 20s. I didn't the same thing twice that night. I drank screwdrivers, vodka redbulls, rum and coke, whiskey and coke, several styles of beer, shot of Jaeger, shot of tequila, shot of Apfelkorn, and I think a long island ice tea. I was hung over for 2 freaking days after that.
 
2013-04-26 11:51:33 PM  

Stile4aly: [www.imperfectenjoyment.com image 375x300]

Mmm Mmm, biatch!


Came for the Chapelle reference. Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-04-26 11:52:15 PM  
Not much of a drinker so can someone tell me the alcoholic content between a normal bottle/ glass of beer and a similar one that is flat, ie without fizz after it's been opened and untouched for a while.

Is the potency of the alcoholic level dependent on the 'fizz'?
 
2013-04-26 11:52:57 PM  

doglover: FTFA: The idea that gin makes you unhappy

WAT?


Misery and gin, old saying, old song.
 
2013-04-26 11:55:09 PM  

insano: That was a lot of words where 'no' would have sufficed.


farm5.staticflickr.com

This.
 
2013-04-26 11:55:58 PM  
Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

i745.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-26 11:56:36 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.

Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )


Just don't get all philosophical...I can't handle that.
 
2013-04-26 11:57:52 PM  

wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.


I get that you have good intentions, but, in practice, it still does the same thing. It is a drug. The only difference--unless you're drinking different types of alcohol (i.e., methanol, isopropanol, etc., as opposed to different varieties of alcoholic beverages)--is how much you consume, your rate of consumption, how quickly it enters your bloodstream, and how quickly and thoroughly it is metabolized and excreted. It's strange and embarrassing that people sincerely believe otherwise; if you're going to use (or, in this case, abuse) a drug, have the sense to learn the first thing about it.

/if you want to do different stupid things because you have a different aftertaste in your mouth, then go for it, but don't blame the drug
 
2013-04-26 11:58:24 PM  

GungFu: Not much of a drinker


You gotta be trolling.
 
2013-04-27 12:00:40 AM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

[i745.photobucket.com image 501x532]


I knew someone who had a bottle of that around. We mixed it with sprite, I thought it was terrible and didn't drink much. Funny, I wonder how they chose these "selected grains?"
 
2013-04-27 12:03:48 AM  

GungFu: Is the potency of the alcoholic level dependent on the 'fizz'?


Yes. With a higher carbonation the ethanol is catalyzed so that each C2H5OH molecule has double the effectiveness. If you want to get extra-drunk, add a few cigarette butts to the flat beer and the charcoal on the burnt ends will further amplify the effects of the alcohol.
 
2013-04-27 12:04:16 AM  
www.absinthe-review.com
 
2013-04-27 12:05:17 AM  

FunkOut: tinfoil-hat maggie: FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.

Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )

Just don't get all philosophical...I can't handle that.


But my psychobabble is different, honest ; )
 
2013-04-27 12:06:05 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I disagree, because of a drunk phone call I got from some hotel in Spain a few years ago.

My best friend was part of a school trip in 2004 or so (their college had one of those strange J-terms, and the trip was technically for a couple hours' credit), and they had been doing shots of absinthe.  Some freshman who was a real right-wing douchebag had been running his mouth at the bar, and decided it would be a real good idea to say "Fransicco Franco had the right idea."  My friend, who was too drunk to reasonably walk upright, had to grab the little shiat and fireman's carry his ass out of the bar a step ahead of the rapidly-forming angry mob.  Thankfully it was only about 8PM here, but I get this call from what can only be described as the drunk in a traditional Irish novel.  It took me ten minutes to ascertain the words "absinthe", and "Generalissimo Franco"; naturally that just raised more questions.

Bottom line is, liquor may be liquor, but the green fairy is nothing to fark with.


Met a girl at an oktoberfest hall. She was loaded enough to start screaming gark the germans at the top of her lungs.
butchering huns she called em.

I couldnt get outta there fast enough
 
2013-04-27 12:06:50 AM  
If anything makes it different it's sugar levels of mixers (colas or juices) or additives like the energy drink chemicals (taurine or caffeine). When I drink alcohol like vodka, tequila, or whiskey with just water I don't notice a difference. Sugary mixers give me a headache and energy drinks just make me feel bad. Wine kind of is in the sugary category of drinks if it's a sweet wine. Dryer wine doesn't hurt my head like a sweet one will.

Doesn't have anything to do with the alcohol, though. It's all about what's surrounding it.
 
2013-04-27 12:09:55 AM  
I can have a double of bourbon no problem. Two glasses of wine will fark me up.
 
2013-04-27 12:11:18 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: NewportBarGuy: So, I should stop drinking sterno?

Not if you want to survive an attack by an alien virus


Well done sir.

/or be a screaming baby
 
2013-04-27 12:16:50 AM  

UsikFark: Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

[i745.photobucket.com image 501x532]

I knew someone who had a bottle of that around. We mixed it with sprite, I thought it was terrible and didn't drink much. Funny, I wonder how they chose these "selected grains?"


Long time ago my buddy had a bottle of Everclear in his car and said "Here get you a drink". Not wanting to seem like a wuss I turned it up and got two healthy gulps. My throat drew up, could barely breathe. All I could do was whisper "Chaser!" He had none. Was the longest 5 minutes of my life until we reached a vending machine. That shiat will kill you. Don't do it.
 
2013-04-27 12:18:25 AM  
My cousin once brought me a bottle of Staropolzenecky absinthe for the holidays.

Purists, don't hate me but it was exquisite in eggnog and I'm not even kidding.

Real absinthe is amazing.
 
2013-04-27 12:19:45 AM  
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