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2013-04-26 06:35:37 PM  
fta But fundamentally, alcohol is alcohol whichever way you slice it.

So the point is that you're already a fist-pumping frat boy when you drink Jägermeister?
 
2013-04-26 07:00:07 PM  
I have done the dumbest things of my life while/after drinking vodka with Red Bull. It's being drunk, but in turbo mode.

Liquid stupid.
 
2013-04-26 07:44:03 PM  
That was a lot of words where 'no' would have sufficed.
 
2013-04-26 08:00:24 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I have done the dumbest things of my life while/after drinking vodka with Red Bull. It's being drunk, but in turbo mode.

Liquid stupid.


The caffeine keeps you awake enough to be stupid, usually you'd pass out preventing the stupid.
 
2013-04-26 08:05:53 PM  
FTFA: The idea that gin makes you unhappy

WAT?
 
2013-04-26 08:11:10 PM  
No just different kinds of sick.
 
2013-04-26 08:28:07 PM  
Yeah, when someone says that tequila does one thing and the same volume of vodka does another, it's probably because they remember specific times that they had certain drinks and behaved differently based on other circumstances. Booze is booze.
 
2013-04-26 08:39:38 PM  
There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne
 
2013-04-26 08:54:40 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne


Well hangovers are a different story. Wine and anything with sugar gives me a splitting headache. Straight vodka for me.
 
2013-04-26 09:05:05 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, when someone says that tequila does one thing and the same volume of vodka does another, it's probably because they remember specific times that they had certain drinks and behaved differently based on other circumstances. Booze is booze.


Tequila makes me throw up in the back yard of my college apartment then pass out while still outside. It also makes me continue puking and eventually causes my eye to be cemented shut due to...you know what? I'm just going to stop now. Suffice it to say I abstained from tequila for almost 20 years.

Mods, if that's TMI feel free to delete.
 
2013-04-26 09:05:20 PM  
I disagree, because of a drunk phone call I got from some hotel in Spain a few years ago.

My best friend was part of a school trip in 2004 or so (their college had one of those strange J-terms, and the trip was technically for a couple hours' credit), and they had been doing shots of absinthe.  Some freshman who was a real right-wing douchebag had been running his mouth at the bar, and decided it would be a real good idea to say "Fransicco Franco had the right idea."  My friend, who was too drunk to reasonably walk upright, had to grab the little shiat and fireman's carry his ass out of the bar a step ahead of the rapidly-forming angry mob.  Thankfully it was only about 8PM here, but I get this call from what can only be described as the drunk in a traditional Irish novel.  It took me ten minutes to ascertain the words "absinthe", and "Generalissimo Franco"; naturally that just raised more questions.

Bottom line is, liquor may be liquor, but the green fairy is nothing to fark with.
 
2013-04-26 09:05:37 PM  
I find that gin farks me up more than bourbon...because it's clear and easy to swallow straight.

Rum gives me a warm buzz because I usually just mix it with so much fruit juice that I go into a diabetic coma.
 
2013-04-26 09:32:10 PM  
I don't even need to click the link. And since it's io9 I'll probably be smarter for it.

My own extensive testing has gone beyond what any lab could conduct barring a 20 year study. The conclusion is: most definitely yes

You are ingesting much more than just alcohol and I think all of these other variables plays into how your body reacts to the beverage.
 
2013-04-26 09:50:22 PM  
So, I should stop drinking sterno?
 
2013-04-26 09:50:27 PM  

Mugato: Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne

Well hangovers are a different story. Wine and anything with sugar gives me a splitting headache. Straight vodka for me.


Same with dark beer for me although not as bad as it used to be
 
2013-04-26 09:51:59 PM  
Stupid science, don't go and take the magic out of being drunk.  If I get emotionally or psychologically drunker because of a specific beverage, don't tell me the specific beverage isn't why.   Drunk is good, however you do it.
 
2013-04-26 10:01:02 PM  

NewportBarGuy: So, I should stop drinking sterno?


Not if you want to survive an attack by an alien virus
 
2013-04-26 10:10:30 PM  
bacardi 151 is liquid evil
 
2013-04-26 10:23:09 PM  
gin makes them sad. Why is that?

Because it tastes like drinking Pine-Sol.
 
2013-04-26 10:31:47 PM  

syrynxx: gin makes them sad. Why is that?

Because it tastes like drinking Pine-Sol.


Well, bad gin does.
 
2013-04-26 10:35:36 PM  
I made mead a few times. It makes you tell stories, dance around, and next morning you have no memories or hangover.
 
2013-04-26 10:36:55 PM  
Well wine does make me all happy until I pass out. I think that's the sugar. Hard liqueur hits me quicker but that's only because I can drink it faster than beer.
 
2013-04-26 10:40:05 PM  
No question.  Tequila, I'm 8' ft tall and invisible and take all my clothing off.  Whiskey, I'm cool over here, don't hurt me I'm just chillin'.  Vodka: ' Show me your tits you biatch.'
 
2013-04-26 10:42:13 PM  
Gin is definite panty pealer.  One thing to note is that the temperature of the alcohol can make a big difference in how it hits you.  Chilling a white wine to a very cold level takes away the alcohol taste, so sorority girls drink a bunch before it warms in their stomachs and hits them hard. So I'm told.
 
2013-04-26 10:43:45 PM  
I don't know if it was a different kind of drunk, but the few times I got drunk off of tequila, I usually make much worse decisions than when I drank anything else.
 
2013-04-26 10:44:03 PM  
Yes, liquor gets me embarrassingly wasted.
 
2013-04-26 10:44:32 PM  
scotch = drink entire bottle
wine = death

That's for me at any rate.
 
2013-04-26 10:44:35 PM  
Some kinds will get you girl drink drunk.
 
2013-04-26 10:46:42 PM  

cj1319: I don't know if it was a different kind of drunk, but the few times I got drunk off of tequila, I usually make much worse decisions than when I drank anything else.


Did you ever wake up in the fountain of your apt complex with just one boot and a pair of tighty whites on and nothing else? Agave is evil.
 
2013-04-26 10:48:24 PM  

SpikeStrip: bacardi 151 is liquid evil


Yes. Yes it is. Funny how it doesn't taste so strong after you put a decent primer on.
 
2013-04-26 10:50:18 PM  

UNC_Samurai: I disagree, because of a drunk phone call I got from some hotel in Spain a few years ago.

My best friend was part of a school trip in 2004 or so (their college had one of those strange J-terms, and the trip was technically for a couple hours' credit), and they had been doing shots of absinthe.  Some freshman who was a real right-wing douchebag had been running his mouth at the bar, and decided it would be a real good idea to say "Fransicco Franco had the right idea."  My friend, who was too drunk to reasonably walk upright, had to grab the little shiat and fireman's carry his ass out of the bar a step ahead of the rapidly-forming angry mob.  Thankfully it was only about 8PM here, but I get this call from what can only be described as the drunk in a traditional Irish novel.  It took me ten minutes to ascertain the words "absinthe", and "Generalissimo Franco"; naturally that just raised more questions.

Bottom line is, liquor may be liquor, but the green fairy is nothing to fark with.


This.

/killed a 5th last Saturday night and ended up in the dungeon of a castle.

//completely true.
 
2013-04-26 10:50:47 PM  

jaylectricity: I find that gin farks me up more than bourbon...because it's clear and easy to swallow straight.

Rum gives me a warm buzz because I usually just mix it with so much fruit juice that I go into a diabetic coma.


Clear liquors are easier to drink straight than darker ones for you?

Odd. Or maybe I'm odd.
 
2013-04-26 10:50:55 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Mugato: Yeah, when someone says that tequila does one thing and the same volume of vodka does another, it's probably because they remember specific times that they had certain drinks and behaved differently based on other circumstances. Booze is booze.

Tequila makes me throw up in the back yard of my college apartment then pass out while still outside. It also makes me continue puking and eventually causes my eye to be cemented shut due to...you know what? I'm just going to stop now. Suffice it to say I abstained from tequila for almost 20 years.

Mods, if that's TMI feel free to delete.


My 21st involved many tequila poppers, there is a 3 day vacuum memory wise, apparently most of the crowd was keeping up, 'cause none of them have any details either...
 
2013-04-26 10:50:56 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Some kinds will get you girl drink drunk.


I still use the "no 'splanations necessary" line to this day.
 
2013-04-26 10:51:44 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: cj1319: I don't know if it was a different kind of drunk, but the few times I got drunk off of tequila, I usually make much worse decisions than when I drank anything else.

Did you ever wake up in the fountain of your apt complex with just one boot and a pair of tighty whites on and nothing else? Agave is evil.


Got that beat.  Woke up on a Sunday morning on the front lawn of a church, with the bells ringing and people heading inside for services, all looking at me.  All courtesy of lots of saki.
 
2013-04-26 10:52:09 PM  
Fortified wine is the shiat if you want to go completely off the rails.  "Great White" aka Shark Piss, a fortified white wine out of Nova Scotia, will twist your cap back.  An elixir of strange powers, it enables those who imbibe to speak in tongues, smell various colors and shrug off harm as though an angel rests on their shoulder.  It's red wine equivalent in my neck of the woods is "Kellys" - which carries a similar effect with the the major difference being that it induces pyromania.
 
2013-04-26 10:52:24 PM  
Coffee makes you poop.
 
2013-04-26 10:53:46 PM  
I'm not saying it's the tokillya that makes you do stupid things but it's not called tokillya for nothing

The smoothest, most mellow drunk I've ever had is apple pie moonshine.  31 proof aged 7 days and served in a quart jar.  You're ok until you try to stand upfalldown
 
2013-04-26 10:57:55 PM  
there's a reason why I no longer drink tequila or whiskey anymore

down to rum, gin, and beer for me
 
2013-04-26 10:58:17 PM  
I learned this fall that I'm allergic to gin, as a result of my stupid cedar allergy. Which I'm ok with as I rarely drank it anyway.

/love tequila
//straight, warm, no salt no lime
///Corralejo Reposado
 
2013-04-26 10:58:27 PM  
I have mostly heard that tequila will unleash the beast and make you sick, any other genre is mixed expectations. I think that most all drinkers are building their expectations 10% on logic and 90% on expectations and "what happened those few times."

There was a unscientific page somewhere "showing" that Night Train makes you sleepy and Mad Dog does not, then they had to build a little dike around the NT victim...
 
2013-04-26 10:58:37 PM  
I think a LOT of it has to do with what you think about the particular liquor before you drink it. I know SO many people that say they are a "mean" drunk on tequila. I think so many people hear that, that when they drink it they think being an arsehole is fine, so they are. Then later it's.... see! tequila makes me mean! At one point I could drink tequila like water, and because it was my preference, it was often the main drink at get-togethers. I was around many of those "tequila makes me a mean drunk" people and saw no difference.

I know the first time I had Jagermeister though, I had 3 shots and was gone - carried out of the bar by my boyfriend and came to much later saying "what happened?" and I was a very experienced drunk at that time.

And I don't think Absinthe counts since it has some kind of hallucinogen in it. It's why it was banned for so long.
 
2013-04-26 10:59:15 PM  
www.imperfectenjoyment.com

Mmm Mmm, biatch!
 
2013-04-26 10:59:52 PM  
Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?
 
2013-04-26 11:02:28 PM  

Revek: No just different kinds of sick.


That's what I was thinking.  I can't take a beer pitcher hangover anymore these days but can drunk as fark on midshelf (the triple+-distilled kind like Svedka, Skyy, etc.) vodak and be fine, most of the time, the next day.
 
2013-04-26 11:02:40 PM  

rattchett: Fortified wine is the shiat if you want to go completely off the rails.  "Great White" aka Shark Piss, a fortified white wine out of Nova Scotia, will twist your cap back.  An elixir of strange powers, it enables those who imbibe to speak in tongues, smell various colors and shrug off harm as though an angel rests on their shoulder.  It's red wine equivalent in my neck of the woods is "Kellys" - which carries a similar effect with the the major difference being that it induces pyromania.


LoL, I had a friend whose grand mom made muscadine wine, for extra kick she added Jack Daniels. Well, those old ladies knew how to make some Jesus juice, well it'd leave ya praying for mercy.
 
2013-04-26 11:03:02 PM  

sno man: booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?


Why should it?
 
2013-04-26 11:04:08 PM  
Hmmm, gin. That's the tonic.
 
2013-04-26 11:07:11 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: NewportBarGuy: So, I should stop drinking sterno?

Not if you want to survive an attack by an alien virus


Hyperventilating is probably better for your liver.
 
2013-04-26 11:07:14 PM  
Tequila once made me kill a man in Juarez.
 
2013-04-26 11:07:19 PM  
A shark on whiskey is mighty risky;
A shark on beer is a beer engineer.
 
2013-04-26 11:07:25 PM  

Shyla: I think a LOT of it has to do with what you think about the particular liquor before you drink it. I know SO many people that say they are a "mean" drunk on tequila. I think so many people hear that, that when they drink it they think being an arsehole is fine, so they are. Then later it's.... see! tequila makes me mean! At one point I could drink tequila like water, and because it was my preference, it was often the main drink at get-togethers. I was around many of those "tequila makes me a mean drunk" people and saw no difference.

I know the first time I had Jagermeister though, I had 3 shots and was gone - carried out of the bar by my boyfriend and came to much later saying "what happened?" and I was a very experienced drunk at that time.

And I don't think Absinthe counts since it has some kind of hallucinogen in it. It's why it was banned for so long.


Back when I was clubbing, well way back then I would order a beer and two shot's of Jager and would dance all night, normally I'm really shy but that was my formula. Oh and a properly made B-52 is good as well but those are hard to come by : /
 
2013-04-26 11:07:29 PM  
They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.
 
2013-04-26 11:08:36 PM  
In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.
 
2013-04-26 11:09:08 PM  
I'm pretty sure drinking energy drinks (or poweraid) with booze helps it absorb faster. I also remember that carbonation helps you absorb it faster. I don't have sources, but as I am drinking right now, I don't need them!
 
2013-04-26 11:09:51 PM  
I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.
 
2013-04-26 11:09:55 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Lt. Cheese Weasel: cj1319: I don't know if it was a different kind of drunk, but the few times I got drunk off of tequila, I usually make much worse decisions than when I drank anything else.

Did you ever wake up in the fountain of your apt complex with just one boot and a pair of tighty whites on and nothing else? Agave is evil.

Got that beat.  Woke up on a Sunday morning on the front lawn of a church, with the bells ringing and people heading inside for services, all looking at me.  All courtesy of lots of saki.


I was awakened one New Years Day by a janitor buffing the floors in a school. No idea how I got in. I turned down a ride home and tried to walk to a friend's house when it was below zero out.
 
2013-04-26 11:13:40 PM  
Boone' Farm.  Liquid panty remover.
 
2013-04-26 11:14:18 PM  
When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.
 
2013-04-26 11:14:58 PM  
Back in my Navy drinking days, Tekillya was the one that made me vomit every time. I don't think because the ethanol was any different, but the Tekillya shots always seemed to come after hours of drinking and just put the icing on the cake. Ughhh...I don't touch that stuff anymore.
 
2013-04-26 11:15:56 PM  

BigLuca: When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.


go on...
 
2013-04-26 11:17:17 PM  

FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.


Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )
 
2013-04-26 11:18:16 PM  

BigLuca: When I drink tequila I turn into a wild party girl and rub my tits in the face of everyone I meet.  Which is a problem since I'm a guy.


LOL : )
 
2013-04-26 11:18:55 PM  

sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?


Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.
 
2013-04-26 11:19:18 PM  
I see a lot of people saying tequila is their worst poison. For me it's malt liquor. Yeah tequila gets me extra drunk just like anyone else, but malt liquor makes me do extra stupid stuff too. I lost a good friend because of a malt liquor drunk and I've swore it off ever since.
 
2013-04-26 11:20:00 PM  

JesseL: sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?

Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.


According to the science of homeopathy, the active ingredient is the one you have the least of.
 
2013-04-26 11:21:33 PM  

Yogimus: JesseL: sno man: Science "all alcohol is alcohol" guy... bite me... booze is typically about 40% alcohol... but the 60% has no effect at all? the mix beyond that has no influence?

Most of that 60% is water. The most psychoactive stuff remaining is probably caffeine and sugar. If you removed all the alcohol, caffeine, and sugar from a given beverage just how much do you think a normal dose of the remaining stuff would really affect your behavior or perceptions?

I've seen people ripped as hell on O'Douls, so put me firmly in the camp that pins most of the effects on preconceived expectations.

According to the science of homeopathy, the active ingredient is the one you have the least of.


Makes it easy to OD.
 
2013-04-26 11:21:41 PM  

wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.


Pretty much that. Loads of people hear stories from friends and older siblings about what they did while drinking what kind of alcohol and it influences them. Personally for me alcohol is a mood amplifier, it doesn't matter what kind of alcohol I'm drinking. If I was having a decent time when I started to drink, by the time I'm drunk I'm having a great time. If I'm kind of down and drinking, I get depressed. And on the very rare occasion I'm angry when I'm drinking I get really angry.

Here and there I seem to go through phases where I like a specific drink and will drink them almost exclusively for a while. White Russians, brandy old fashioneds, rum and coke, vodka and fruit punch energy drinks, irish coffees, whiskey and cokes, grasshoppers, screwdrivers, plain old beer,  etc. The only real inconsistency when I go through those streaks is the occasional shot of Jaeger. I despise pretty much any other shot of straight liquor, although the very rare apple jack, or baby guiness shot isn't unheard of.
 
2013-04-26 11:23:07 PM  
You learn about congeners the first time you drink a batch of homemade wine and feel "weird" drunk.
 
2013-04-26 11:25:00 PM  
I know a few people who are forbidden by their peers to drink whisky.

They get punchy. Real punchy.
 
2013-04-26 11:26:19 PM  
cheap, effective and always in control (just pour it into a more expensive bottle).

i780.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-26 11:31:16 PM  

Atomic Spunk: They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.


There is science backing that claim up (amount of THC, percentages of various cannibanoids, etc).

I will tell you I spent about ten years smoking without noticing the differences. Then one day, I had a strong sativa. My first panic attack ensued - fun times. Indica strains do not cause this.

Further, indica plants and sativa plants also look totally different. It's not an "ethanol is ethanol" situation.
 
2013-04-26 11:32:55 PM  
Unless you're on an airplane or in South Carolina, your one mixed drink is more like two or three. Beer, OTOH, is kind of hard to over-pour...
 
2013-04-26 11:37:46 PM  
Whiskey's too rough,
Champagne costs too much,
And vodka puts my mouth in gear.
This little refrain will help me explain,
As a matter of fact, I like beer.
(He likes BEER!)

Tom T. Hall
 
2013-04-26 11:38:14 PM  
Al alcohol has the same immediate effect. It's the hangovers that vary.
 
2013-04-26 11:39:16 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: scotch = drink entire bottle
wine = death

That's for me at any rate.


scotch = drink entire bottle
vodka = embarrassment to humanity
.
Back when I would drink the stuff anyway. I stick to beer and whisky or wine now.
 
2013-04-26 11:40:16 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne


Chug 8 ounces of Old Grand Dad while standing on one leg in the middle of a strip club.  I missed five classes the next day, even though I was physically present in all of them.
 
2013-04-26 11:40:30 PM  

poot_rootbeer: A shark on whiskey is mighty risky;
A shark on beer is a beer engineer.


Dr. Worm is that you?
 
2013-04-26 11:41:03 PM  
Sailor Jerry site

Sailor Jerry Rum makes my clothes come off and I dance around. No other alcohol does this.

Ouzo makes my legs from my knees down anesthetized.
 
2013-04-26 11:47:25 PM  
Next up: "Do different kinds of ibuprofen offer different kinds of anti-inflammatory pain relief?" and our exciting exposé, "Diphenhydramine HCl makes people sleepy even when it's in a different colored pill!"
 
2013-04-26 11:49:38 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Peter von Nostrand: There is no hangover quite like a champagne hangover. Absolute worst I have ever felt was from drinking too much champagne

Chug 8 ounces of Old Grand Dad while standing on one leg in the middle of a strip club.  I missed five classes the next day, even though I was physically present in all of them.


Worst hangover I ever had was a night I went to hang out with an old Army buddy when got stationed near where he lived. For some gods be damned reason I thought I was about 10 years younger and could still drink like a fish the way we used to when we were in our early 20s. I didn't the same thing twice that night. I drank screwdrivers, vodka redbulls, rum and coke, whiskey and coke, several styles of beer, shot of Jaeger, shot of tequila, shot of Apfelkorn, and I think a long island ice tea. I was hung over for 2 freaking days after that.
 
2013-04-26 11:51:33 PM  

Stile4aly: [www.imperfectenjoyment.com image 375x300]

Mmm Mmm, biatch!


Came for the Chapelle reference. Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-04-26 11:52:15 PM  
Not much of a drinker so can someone tell me the alcoholic content between a normal bottle/ glass of beer and a similar one that is flat, ie without fizz after it's been opened and untouched for a while.

Is the potency of the alcoholic level dependent on the 'fizz'?
 
2013-04-26 11:52:57 PM  

doglover: FTFA: The idea that gin makes you unhappy

WAT?


Misery and gin, old saying, old song.
 
2013-04-26 11:55:09 PM  

insano: That was a lot of words where 'no' would have sufficed.


farm5.staticflickr.com

This.
 
2013-04-26 11:55:58 PM  
Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

i745.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-26 11:56:36 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.

Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )


Just don't get all philosophical...I can't handle that.
 
2013-04-26 11:57:52 PM  

wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.


I get that you have good intentions, but, in practice, it still does the same thing. It is a drug. The only difference--unless you're drinking different types of alcohol (i.e., methanol, isopropanol, etc., as opposed to different varieties of alcoholic beverages)--is how much you consume, your rate of consumption, how quickly it enters your bloodstream, and how quickly and thoroughly it is metabolized and excreted. It's strange and embarrassing that people sincerely believe otherwise; if you're going to use (or, in this case, abuse) a drug, have the sense to learn the first thing about it.

/if you want to do different stupid things because you have a different aftertaste in your mouth, then go for it, but don't blame the drug
 
2013-04-26 11:58:24 PM  

GungFu: Not much of a drinker


You gotta be trolling.
 
2013-04-27 12:00:40 AM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

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I knew someone who had a bottle of that around. We mixed it with sprite, I thought it was terrible and didn't drink much. Funny, I wonder how they chose these "selected grains?"
 
2013-04-27 12:03:48 AM  

GungFu: Is the potency of the alcoholic level dependent on the 'fizz'?


Yes. With a higher carbonation the ethanol is catalyzed so that each C2H5OH molecule has double the effectiveness. If you want to get extra-drunk, add a few cigarette butts to the flat beer and the charcoal on the burnt ends will further amplify the effects of the alcohol.
 
2013-04-27 12:04:16 AM  
www.absinthe-review.com
 
2013-04-27 12:05:17 AM  

FunkOut: tinfoil-hat maggie: FunkOut: I dunno, there's something about wine that makes some people never shut the fark up.

Sorry, I didn't realize we met : )

Just don't get all philosophical...I can't handle that.


But my psychobabble is different, honest ; )
 
2013-04-27 12:06:05 AM  

UNC_Samurai: I disagree, because of a drunk phone call I got from some hotel in Spain a few years ago.

My best friend was part of a school trip in 2004 or so (their college had one of those strange J-terms, and the trip was technically for a couple hours' credit), and they had been doing shots of absinthe.  Some freshman who was a real right-wing douchebag had been running his mouth at the bar, and decided it would be a real good idea to say "Fransicco Franco had the right idea."  My friend, who was too drunk to reasonably walk upright, had to grab the little shiat and fireman's carry his ass out of the bar a step ahead of the rapidly-forming angry mob.  Thankfully it was only about 8PM here, but I get this call from what can only be described as the drunk in a traditional Irish novel.  It took me ten minutes to ascertain the words "absinthe", and "Generalissimo Franco"; naturally that just raised more questions.

Bottom line is, liquor may be liquor, but the green fairy is nothing to fark with.


Met a girl at an oktoberfest hall. She was loaded enough to start screaming gark the germans at the top of her lungs.
butchering huns she called em.

I couldnt get outta there fast enough
 
2013-04-27 12:06:50 AM  
If anything makes it different it's sugar levels of mixers (colas or juices) or additives like the energy drink chemicals (taurine or caffeine). When I drink alcohol like vodka, tequila, or whiskey with just water I don't notice a difference. Sugary mixers give me a headache and energy drinks just make me feel bad. Wine kind of is in the sugary category of drinks if it's a sweet wine. Dryer wine doesn't hurt my head like a sweet one will.

Doesn't have anything to do with the alcohol, though. It's all about what's surrounding it.
 
2013-04-27 12:09:55 AM  
I can have a double of bourbon no problem. Two glasses of wine will fark me up.
 
2013-04-27 12:11:18 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: NewportBarGuy: So, I should stop drinking sterno?

Not if you want to survive an attack by an alien virus


Well done sir.

/or be a screaming baby
 
2013-04-27 12:16:50 AM  

UsikFark: Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

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I knew someone who had a bottle of that around. We mixed it with sprite, I thought it was terrible and didn't drink much. Funny, I wonder how they chose these "selected grains?"


Long time ago my buddy had a bottle of Everclear in his car and said "Here get you a drink". Not wanting to seem like a wuss I turned it up and got two healthy gulps. My throat drew up, could barely breathe. All I could do was whisper "Chaser!" He had none. Was the longest 5 minutes of my life until we reached a vending machine. That shiat will kill you. Don't do it.
 
2013-04-27 12:18:25 AM  
My cousin once brought me a bottle of Staropolzenecky absinthe for the holidays.

Purists, don't hate me but it was exquisite in eggnog and I'm not even kidding.

Real absinthe is amazing.
 
2013-04-27 12:19:45 AM  
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2013-04-27 12:21:07 AM  
If it's clear, never fear.
If it's brown, turn it down.
 
2013-04-27 12:24:23 AM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.


fark yeah. We used to drink the crap out of that stuff. Buy one of those coffee can things of powdered Lipton Ice Tea with the sugar and lemon already mixed in. Make up a batch of that stuff.

Then pour one ounce of Everclear, one ounce of that liquid lemon juice you buy in the little bottle that looks like a lemon, and about 10 ounces of the Tea.

farking awesome. Many years ago when i started making the things, some sorority bimbo asked me what the drink was named. I said simply, "Fred."

We have been drinking Freds for years.
 
2013-04-27 12:24:48 AM  
not even once people, trust me on this
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2013-04-27 12:25:01 AM  
Maybe it's all cerebral, but tequila makes me warm and energetic, vodka and gin just make me sick, rum makes me a bit more daring, and whiskey makes me myself but happy and talkative. I notice distinct differences between the different types. It's true that I generally use different mixers for each, that may be the culprit. Maybe the fact that I usually mix whiskey and rum with caffeine, vodka and gin with juice, and tequila with just lime and salt is all the difference, but I seem to notice the difference even when I'm just taking any of them straight.
 
2013-04-27 12:26:55 AM  

NobleHam: Maybe it's all cerebral, but tequila makes me warm and energetic, vodka and gin just make me sick, rum makes me a bit more daring, and whiskey makes me myself but happy and talkative. I notice distinct differences between the different types. It's true that I generally use different mixers for each, that may be the culprit. Maybe the fact that I usually mix whiskey and rum with caffeine, vodka and gin with juice, and tequila with just lime and salt is all the difference, but I seem to notice the difference even when I'm just taking any of them straight.


Does the mood determine the drink, or the drink determine the mood?
 
2013-04-27 12:32:14 AM  

syrynxx: gin makes them sad. Why is that?

Because it tastes like drinking Pine-Sol.


I was gonna say. It makes me sad because it tastes like shiat.
 
2013-04-27 12:34:16 AM  

Omahawg: not even once people, trust me on this
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I've never tried that brand but I have a special hate for Bartons.
 
2013-04-27 12:34:57 AM  

Omahawg: not even once people, trust me on this
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I'm curious what their blended whiskey tastes like. I assume it's just the vodka mixed with whisky and/or whiskey flavor.
 
2013-04-27 12:35:20 AM  
Tequila gives me a two day hangover, vodka makes me smoke cigarettes, and I just can't gauge myself when it comes to beer. They definitely hit me differently. I'll stick with my rye and Coke.
 
2013-04-27 12:37:48 AM  

equusdc: Unless you're on an airplane or in South Carolina, your one mixed drink is more like two or three. Beer, OTOH, is kind of hard to over-pour...


We got rid of that years ago.
 
2013-04-27 12:43:36 AM  
Wine makes me sleepy.
 
2013-04-27 12:44:22 AM  

EvilEgg: ecmoRandomNumbers: I have done the dumbest things of my life while/after drinking vodka with Red Bull. It's being drunk, but in turbo mode.

Liquid stupid.

The caffeine keeps you awake enough to be stupid, usually you'd pass out preventing the stupid.


It is isometric intoxication - the alcohol brings you down, the caffeine (and whatever else) bring you up.

/ Spider Robinson explained it better
// with Irish coffee
/// bless me
 
2013-04-27 12:53:57 AM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

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And you won't let women contaminate your bodily fluids.  If you mix it with rainwater.
 
2013-04-27 12:55:00 AM  
If we have to sit here on Fark and discuss it, once again, none of you are getting laid. We all know Tequila and Vodak makes everyone nuts.
 
2013-04-27 12:59:53 AM  
Tequilla and Jägermeister defineitely have a different kind of drunk than the other alcohols. I dont care for either of those 2.

The rest are basically the same assuming you are comparing similar proof
 
2013-04-27 01:01:00 AM  

Cyno01: Wine makes me sleepy.


how you do oh you're a dude nevermind
 
2013-04-27 01:09:04 AM  

Atomic Spunk: They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.


Hash gives me the giggles!
 
2013-04-27 01:11:35 AM  
Whiskey's too rough,
champagne costs too much,
vodka puts my mouth in gear.
This little refrain,
should help me explain,
as a matter of fact i like beer.
 
2013-04-27 01:12:55 AM  

whatshisname: NobleHam: Maybe it's all cerebral, but tequila makes me warm and energetic, vodka and gin just make me sick, rum makes me a bit more daring, and whiskey makes me myself but happy and talkative. I notice distinct differences between the different types. It's true that I generally use different mixers for each, that may be the culprit. Maybe the fact that I usually mix whiskey and rum with caffeine, vodka and gin with juice, and tequila with just lime and salt is all the difference, but I seem to notice the difference even when I'm just taking any of them straight.

Does the mood determine the drink, or the drink determine the mood?


I dunno. There's not much difference in mood between when I drink tequila and when I drink whiskey. I drink whiskey all the time, I drink tequila when I would have been drinking whiskey but for whatever reason the occasion calls for tequila (e.g. Cinco de Mayo). Maybe it's the fact that I drink tequila mainly on "special occasions" that makes me more energetic.

But I do know that for whatever reason, I can drink a lot more whiskey than anything else before I pass out in a drunken stupor, and I maintain my perspicacity better with whiskey too. I attribute it to genetics. I have 8 generations of whiskey swilling Southern blood, my grandma used to drink straight Jack Daniels constantly, and even if it's just a placebo effect, I handle whiskey better than most drinks.
 
2013-04-27 01:16:21 AM  
As a youngster I overindulged occasionally, and watched many a friend do so as well. While I may agree there are a large number of people who bring preconceived ideas that color their experience according to what they drink and the particular reason and/or environment that brought about their drunken state, I would have to say that it isn't true for everyone.

I watched - for lack of a better description - a functioning drunk, get completely trashed (staggering, falling down drunk by the end of the night) on less than 15 beers through the course of an entire evening (eg dinner, club, a few hours shooting pool); and yet I watched him several times consume an entire bottle of Johnny Walker while watching a football game in a quarter of the time and eating less while doing it - and for all appearances was cold sober the entire evening. (Bourbon had little effect on him either but he felt like ass the next morning).

Another functioning drunk in the Navy (used to be an oxymoron, not so much anymore), good Irish lad, tended to drink heavily after a month or so separated from the wife and kids. Always a happy, sloppy drunk - except tequila. His 'why I don't drink tequila story': after consuming too much he walked out of a bar and climbed into/err 'borrowed' a police vehicle that had pulled up to resolve some dispute; (at least he parked it on the other side of the island and walked away before he got caught).

One night a shipmate got him sloppy drunk then switched him to tequila w/o his knowledge, (we were drinking kamikaze pitchers that night).  Maybe a dozen drinks later, he switched from sloppy drunk to: 'Feck you! /insert drunken roundhouse swing and headbutt'... had to physically carry him out of the bar.

Serious - it was a Sybil moment - it was like he was a completely different person. And it had nothing to do with the amount he'd drank that night - Normally he'd have consumed for hours at the the same rate, hell it wasn't even midnight yet.

/It's been a few decades so it might have changed, but if you go to Greece and feel the urge to pound several little waxed-sealed bottles of ouzo...  Don't. Don't even think about it. Consume them slowly, and with great respect, or you will either have a come to God moment, wake up in a padded room, or... not wake up.
//And quit on two bottles of Mezcal, do not drink a third...
 
2013-04-27 01:24:44 AM  

Omahawg: not even once people, trust me on this
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When the recycle value for the bottle is in larger font than the alcohol by volume, that's all the warning I need.
 
2013-04-27 01:40:39 AM  
my buddy swears up and down that I'm dumb for not thinking tequila drunk and wine drunk are 2 completly different animals.
 
2013-04-27 01:41:50 AM  

Shyla: And I don't think Absinthe counts since it has some kind of hallucinogen in it. It's why it was banned for so long.


Incredibly tiny amounts that would have no effect whatsoever until you're already way past dancing naked on the bar. Absinthe was the victim of hysteria over incidents that were probably just due to the alcohol- it's a good bit stronger than your typical liquor, and if somebody drinks a similar volume to what they would drink in Whiskey...

Yeah. Absinthe is just ethanol, made in a similar manner to gin, just with different stuff thrown in. You don't fark around with it because its (checks bottle on shelf), well, the bottle I have is only 110 proof. But some will go up to 160 or so.

The mood crap is just an extention of what mood you were in when you started drinking. When you're angry, you choose whiskey, and the ethanol lowers your inhibitions, which makes you more angry. When you're feeling like slutting it up, you choose tequila, which lowers your inhibitions, and you wind up farking every guy in Cancun, so you associate Whiskey with angry and Tequila with drinking way too much and farking everything. Oh, and you wanna know why you have such a hangover with tequila? The salt you drink it with. Hangovers are mostly about dehydration. This stuff isn't magic, just say no to bro science.
 
2013-04-27 01:42:35 AM  

CowardlyLion: wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.

I get that you have good intentions, but, in practice, it still does the same thing. It is a drug. The only difference--unless you're drinking different types of alcohol (i.e., methanol, isopropanol, etc., as opposed to different varieties of alcoholic beverages)--is how much you consume, your rate of consumption, how quickly it enters your bloodstream, and how quickly and thoroughly it is metabolized and excreted. It's strange and embarrassing that people sincerely believe otherwise; if you're going to use (or, in this case, abuse) a drug, have the sense to learn the first thing about it.

/if you want to do different stupid things because you have a different aftertaste in your mouth, then go for it, but don't blame the drug


You don't read so well. The association is internal but very often real. An individual can manufacture a very real association with Tequila. The psychopharmacological aspect that matters most is probably smell but these things go beyond primary sensory associations and into behavior patterns. This even works with wine varietals. It is possible to form associations with a style of Riesling that that provokes very visceral responses. Smells tap into primitive and strong pathways in our brains but but they are not innate responses, they are more like imprinted responses.  So what Tequila does for me it may not do for others but it actually does it for me. You can unlearn these associations.

Another common association comes from very bad experiences with particular booze. If you made yourself _two day hangover_ sick with gin, you may find you have developed a very visceral, very real aversion to gin.
 
2013-04-27 01:53:19 AM  

wademh: CowardlyLion: wademh: In practice it does different things but the difference is sourced from you, not from the booze.
My associations with tequila affect my mode and the booze then extends that. Further, there's social drinking (just plain mixing with all sorts of people), celebration drinking (amping up good feelings), feisty drinking (looking to do some damage, most likely to yourself), escape drinking and bored drinking.

If you tend to  drink different things in those different modes of drinking, you will reinforce your own patterns of reaction.

I get that you have good intentions, but, in practice, it still does the same thing. It is a drug. The only difference--unless you're drinking different types of alcohol (i.e., methanol, isopropanol, etc., as opposed to different varieties of alcoholic beverages)--is how much you consume, your rate of consumption, how quickly it enters your bloodstream, and how quickly and thoroughly it is metabolized and excreted. It's strange and embarrassing that people sincerely believe otherwise; if you're going to use (or, in this case, abuse) a drug, have the sense to learn the first thing about it.

/if you want to do different stupid things because you have a different aftertaste in your mouth, then go for it, but don't blame the drug

You don't read so well. The association is internal but very often real. An individual can manufacture a very real association with Tequila. The psychopharmacological aspect that matters most is probably smell but these things go beyond primary sensory associations and into behavior patterns. This even works with wine varietals. It is possible to form associations with a style of Riesling that that provokes very visceral responses. Smells tap into primitive and strong pathways in our brains but but they are not innate responses, they are more like imprinted responses.  So what Tequila does for me it may not do for others but it actually does it for me. You can unlearn these associations.

Anothe ...


Yes, but it's not inherent to the liquor, which is a common, and utterly moronic, claim. You can absolutely develop an association on a personal level, but it's your own mind, not the booze.

Tired_of_the_BS:
I watched - for lack of a better description - a functioning drunk, get completely trashed (staggering, falling down drunk by the end of the night) on less than 15 beers through the course of an entire evening (eg dinner, club, a few hours shooting pool); and yet I watched him several times consume an entire bottle of Johnny Walker while watching a football game in a quarter of the time and eating less while doing it - and for all appearances was cold sober the entire evening. (Bourbon had little effect on him either but he felt like ass the next morning).


Sugars and carbs. Happens to me on occasion- if I'm already sleep deprived, drinking a single glass of beer or wine can knock me right out, but I can go on deep into the evening if I go straight to the cocktails.
 
2013-04-27 01:55:33 AM  
Can't speak for anybody else, but i've noticed that i get the best buzz from drinking strong malty beers (belgian trappist, etc.) - just warm, fuzzy, and pleasant.  Wine isn't bad, but by comparison there is less warmth and more dizziness.  I enjoy the flavor of both options equally well.  The various mixed drinks generally just make me dizzy without the warm feeling, regardless of strength or sugar content.  I prefer not to drink stronger liquors straight, they all give me a heartburn-y kind of feeling in the stomach even in small amounts.

I'm not sure whether it's placebo, or,  whether the differing chemical profiles of different drinks mix with the alcohol to alter the feeling I get...  but when I started drinking, I noticed the difference immediately despite the fact that I wasn't expecting it; alcohol is alcohol, after all.  These patterns in perception have been consistent over many years.

As for hangovers, I can't speak to that since I've never had one.  I always remember to drink a bunch of water after drinking but before sleeping to keep myself hydrated.  Moderation also helps as well, I'm sure.
 
2013-04-27 02:32:40 AM  
TANNINS are little devil molecules.. whether coffee, wine, scotch, many people get vicious effects from it, like amplifying hangovers (indeed, being a poopy drunk or a happy one, for those sensitive to it, largely comes down to sensitivities to adulterants like this. They have diff. effects, it's just not the alchohol, how hard was that to say?
 
2013-04-27 02:41:57 AM  

cptjeff: Shyla: And I don't think Absinthe counts since it has some kind of hallucinogen in it. It's why it was banned for so long.

Incredibly tiny amounts that would have no effect whatsoever until you're already way past dancing naked on the bar. Absinthe was the victim of hysteria over incidents that were probably just due to the alcohol- it's a good bit stronger than your typical liquor, and if somebody drinks a similar volume to what they would drink in Whiskey...

Yeah. Absinthe is just ethanol, made in a similar manner to gin, just with different stuff thrown in. You don't fark around with it because its (checks bottle on shelf), well, the bottle I have is only 110 proof. But some will go up to 160 or so.

The mood crap is just an extention of what mood you were in when you started drinking. When you're angry, you choose whiskey, and the ethanol lowers your inhibitions, which makes you more angry. When you're feeling like slutting it up, you choose tequila, which lowers your inhibitions, and you wind up farking every guy in Cancun, so you associate Whiskey with angry and Tequila with drinking way too much and farking everything. Oh, and you wanna know why you have such a hangover with tequila? The salt you drink it with. Hangovers are mostly about dehydration. This stuff isn't magic, just say no to bro science.


I don't drink tequila with salt. And I never get/got hangovers. I had always heard that hangovers were caused by dehydration, so I was always good about drinking water when drinking.
 
2013-04-27 02:45:55 AM  

Omahawg: not even once people, trust me on this
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In that same vein... this as well.
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Only time I've ever felt my stomach curdle after a shot.
 
2013-04-27 02:55:49 AM  

Shyla: I don't drink tequila with salt. And I never get/got hangovers. I had always heard that hangovers were caused by dehydration, so I was always good about drinking water when drinking.


The last paragraph was targeted to a general audience, not you personally. And getting some water in is really helpful, as is sipping rather than downing shots and generally drinking in moderation.

I have had a hangover all of once, and it took quite a bit to get there. Wasn't that fun, but it wasn't that bad, either.
 
2013-04-27 04:06:12 AM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

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Heh. An exchange student made me an honorary Irishman with that stuff.  Half Everclear, half Hawaiian Punch. The ritual involved the two of us parading arm in arm, naked, down the yellow line of the town's main street while singing "My Wild Irish Rose."  I was given the name  "Finnegan"  because it rhymed with "drunk again."

Woke up on an unfamiliar couch with  a Great Dane licking my face and a cop's business card sticking out of my wallet with "call me" scrawled on it.

Cop said, "I know you don't remember anything, so I want to make sure you know what not to do ever again..."

Melbourne, Florida, was a pretty cool little college town back then.
 
2013-04-27 05:10:44 AM  
Quite interesting, even though I drink very little. Whatever alcohol I have has the same effect - just makes me stupefied and sleepy. And it takes a small amount to do that. Even less since I lost over 25% of my body weight.
 
2013-04-27 05:11:46 AM  
Every time I've gotten in trouble in my adult life, tequila was involved.
 
2013-04-27 05:39:01 AM  
people still use training wheels with tequila?

wait. nevermind. I don't drink that anymore.
 
2013-04-27 05:56:07 AM  

Omahawg: people still use training wheels with tequila?

wait. nevermind. I don't drink that anymore.


No no no no, I don't drink it no more, I'm tire of waking up on the floor.
No thank you please it only makes me sneeze ...

Looking at an empty liter of Jack I bought yesterday.
 
2013-04-27 06:15:45 AM  

Treygreen13: syrynxx: gin makes them sad. Why is that?

Because it tastes like drinking Pine-Sol.

Well, bad gin does.


exactly.... good Gin tastes like fine unleaded.
 
2013-04-27 06:20:13 AM  
I just love how a paragraph before this "common explanation for the differential effects of booze is that it's all in your head" they were talking about the possibility that the additional chemicals in liquor/beer/whatever are to blame for behavioral issues then come up with that sentence... talk about cognitive dissonance.

Alcohol is Alcohol.
Additional chemicals are Additional chemicals

Alcohol will affect everyone the same, additional chemicals will affect different people differently.
This is not rocket science. If my statement was untrue, then every single person who ever took bath salts would be a face eating monster, but since that is not the case, then my statement must be correct.
 
2013-04-27 06:45:26 AM  
It was entertaining that there was basically no real science here. "Maybe, because of the other chemicals, but maybe it's all in your head." Saying science words has nothing to do with the actual scientific method, which apparently no one's applied yet, so "We don't know" is the conclusion.
 
2013-04-27 07:09:34 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: I just love how a paragraph before this "common explanation for the differential effects of booze is that it's all in your head" they were talking about the possibility that the additional chemicals in liquor/beer/whatever are to blame for behavioral issues then come up with that sentence... talk about cognitive dissonance.

Alcohol is Alcohol.
Additional chemicals are Additional chemicals

Alcohol will affect everyone the same, additional chemicals will affect different people differently.
This is not rocket science. If my statement was untrue, then every single person who ever took bath salts would be a face eating monster, but since that is not the case, then my statement must be correct.



The only additional chemicals that have any real physiological effect is sugar and caffeine (unless you are sensitive to additives). Alcohol lowers inhibitions and sense but is a mild depressant so that blunts the effects.If you add enough caffeine (like in energy drinks) it will override the depressive effects of alcohol and act as a stimulant. A stimulated person with little or no inhibitions will do more stupid shiat than someone as drunk but isn't stimulated.

The rest is down to how much alcohol is absorbed, how quickly (so the same amount taken as a straight spirit will have a different effect than a dilute liquid) and the mood of the person. Its conformational bias. If you are in the P.A.R.T.Y. frame of mind it doesn't matter what you drink, it will have the same effects (as long as the drinks are the same strength and dilution).
 
2013-04-27 07:33:43 AM  

Norfolking Chance: HindiDiscoMonster: I just love how a paragraph before this "common explanation for the differential effects of booze is that it's all in your head" they were talking about the possibility that the additional chemicals in liquor/beer/whatever are to blame for behavioral issues then come up with that sentence... talk about cognitive dissonance.

Alcohol is Alcohol.
Additional chemicals are Additional chemicals

Alcohol will affect everyone the same, additional chemicals will affect different people differently.
This is not rocket science. If my statement was untrue, then every single person who ever took bath salts would be a face eating monster, but since that is not the case, then my statement must be correct.


The only additional chemicals that have any real physiological effect is sugar and caffeine (unless you are sensitive to additives). Alcohol lowers inhibitions and sense but is a mild depressant so that blunts the effects.If you add enough caffeine (like in energy drinks) it will override the depressive effects of alcohol and act as a stimulant. A stimulated person with little or no inhibitions will do more stupid shiat than someone as drunk but isn't stimulated.

The rest is down to how much alcohol is absorbed, how quickly (so the same amount taken as a straight spirit will have a different effect than a dilute liquid) and the mood of the person. Its conformational bias. If you are in the P.A.R.T.Y. frame of mind it doesn't matter what you drink, it will have the same effects (as long as the drinks are the same strength and dilution).


well of course... no chemicals could possibly alter body chemistry other than alcohol or caffeine... and I am sure you are right that no alteration of body chemistry would affect no psychology just as much.

/sorry, have to call bullshiat... for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
 
2013-04-27 07:36:19 AM  
In the end...this fluff article proves nothing.
 
2013-04-27 09:18:16 AM  
I had a brandy hangover once; never again.

It was the first time I'd had a hangover -

a) after drinking so little
b) while still awake
c) during a haircut

Since then I've never been drunk on brandy and dislike getting my hair cut.

Good quality vodak is the way to go, something like Finlandia or Absolut. Once they start giving me the sweating, hallucinating, shaky hangovers that cheap spirits do it's time to call it a day.
 
2013-04-27 09:37:18 AM  
I drink a whiskey deink
I drink a vodka drink
And when I have to pee
I use the kitchen sink
 
2013-04-27 09:58:54 AM  

wademh: You don't read so well. The association is internal but very often real. An individual can manufacture a very real association with Tequila. The psychopharmacological aspect that matters most is probably smell but these things go beyond primary sensory associations and into behavior patterns. This even works with wine varietals. It is possible to form associations with a style of Riesling that that provokes very visceral responses. Smells tap into primitive and strong pathways in our brains but but they are not innate responses, they are more like imprinted responses. So what Tequila does for me it may not do for others but it actually does it for me. You can unlearn these associations.


You can tell yourself that, but, no matter how much you want that to be the case, that is not how drugs work. If you choose to act differently when consuming different varieties of alcoholic beverage, that's your choice, not an effect of ethanol. If you go one step further and classically condition yourself to do X when you smell Y beverage, then... congratulations, I guess? Still has nothing to do with the ethanol.

Another common association comes from very bad experiences with particular booze. If you made yourself _two day hangover_ sick with gin, you may find you have developed a very visceral, very real aversion to gin.

That's called conditioned taste aversion. It's a very simple, very powerful form of classical conditioning (which presumably serves as an evolutionary defense mechanism)--if you consume something (especially something novel) and, in close-ish proximity to consuming that thing, become violently ill, you will strongly avoid it. Again, nothing to do with pharmacology or ethanol.
 
2013-04-27 10:52:14 AM  

MrJesus: Atomic Spunk: They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.

There is science backing that claim up (amount of THC, percentages of various cannibanoids, etc).

I will tell you I spent about ten years smoking without noticing the differences. Then one day, I had a strong sativa. My first panic attack ensued - fun times. Indica strains do not cause this.

Further, indica plants and sativa plants also look totally different. It's not an "ethanol is ethanol" situation.


I don't know if all that was floating around at the time was sativa, but it was like someone flipped a switch and smoking pot starting giving me panic attacks. I had smoked for years up to that point. Maybe it was my age (24), or maybe one bad experience caused me to have the wrong mindset for smoking pot, but whatever the case it made me quit.
 
2013-04-27 10:56:50 AM  

whatshisname: GungFu: Is the potency of the alcoholic level dependent on the 'fizz'?

Yes. With a higher carbonation the ethanol is catalyzed so that each C2H5OH molecule has double the effectiveness. If you want to get extra-drunk, add a few cigarette butts to the flat beer and the charcoal on the burnt ends will further amplify the effects of the alcohol.


If that's the case, would liquor that's aged in charred barrels have the same effect?
 
2013-04-27 11:03:48 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Omahawg: not even once people, trust me on this
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I've never tried that brand but I have a special hate for Bartons.


www.currentground.com

I don't know who Mr. Boston was, but I hope the sumbiatch is burning in hell.
 
2013-04-27 11:56:33 AM  
After many years of intense research on the subject I can say that they do, but the amount of alcohol has more effect than the type.
 
2013-04-27 12:29:20 PM  
TFA is male bovine feces.
 
2013-04-27 01:23:08 PM  
I have upon occasion had Gin Devils dance in my head the next morning.
 
2013-04-27 01:56:23 PM  

Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.


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That's my brand, seriously.
Straight shots with fruit punch flavored Gatorade chasers ... I wish I was kidding.
(It's only the 151 proof kind though, so I'm in the kiddie pool.)

Yes, I am aware that I am a Philistine.
 
2013-04-27 02:40:48 PM  

CoysOdie: Atomic Spunk: They say that with weed as well. Sativa is supposed to give you a different kind of high than an indica. I've been a weed smoker for over 30 years, but I can't really tell the difference between the two strains.

Hash gives me the giggles!


Hash makes me straight up see and think in cartoons.
 
2013-04-27 07:16:30 PM  

MorePeasPlease: Kenny B: Wanna get drunk? Here you go.

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That's my brand, seriously.
Straight shots with fruit punch flavored Gatorade chasers ... I wish I was kidding.
(It's only the 151 proof kind though, so I'm in the kiddie pool.)

Yes, I am aware that I am a Philistine.


190 proof everclear will take hair off a wooden leg.  it's also what I use to make my apple pie.  All it takes is a little skill and patience to turn rotgut into something special.
 
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