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2013-04-26 08:16:40 PM
Good for him. That bastard deserves it.
 
2013-04-26 08:18:57 PM

Treygreen13: Good for him. That bastard deserves it.


Just sitting behind Favre was enough to earn it. The SB win is gravy.
 
2013-04-26 08:19:37 PM
Given his skills and age, this makes sense for everyone involved. Good for him.
 
2013-04-26 08:25:00 PM

Treygreen13: Good for him. That bastard deserves it.


This.

SilentStrider: Just sitting behind Favre was enough to earn it. The SB win is gravy.


That.

the biggest redneck here: Given his skills and age, this makes sense for everyone involved. Good for him.


The other; he earned that paycheck and then some.
 
2013-04-26 08:31:45 PM
So, we're done here?
 
2013-04-26 08:34:34 PM
The best QB in the league will get paid the most? WTF is wrong with you, NFL? I miss when JaMarcus Russell and Sam Bradford were the highest-paid players in the league.
 
2013-04-26 08:39:24 PM
I don't know if this was a good signing by the Football Packers of Green Bay, Wisconsin. I follow the respected NFL analyst and world-renowned theoretical physicist Valyncia Jennings, and she's had some critical things to say about this guy in the past.
 
2013-04-26 08:44:52 PM
You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?
 
2013-04-26 08:57:45 PM
Honestly?  This was a real risky decision by the Packers.  Having a SB win is nice, but let's face it.  Aside from the miracle run, he's untested. And he's had injury problems in the past.  I don't know if he can make it consistently on the NFL level for the length of the contract.

You know who I'm thinking?  Tarvaris Jackson.  That dude has upsides.
 
2013-04-26 09:08:51 PM

js34603: You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?


This is what trolling on the sports tab should embody.
 
2013-04-26 09:14:07 PM

UNC_Samurai: js34603: You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?

This is what trolling on the sports tab should embody.


I think the Ravens already trolled the sports tab. They've forced every team with a halfway decent qb to have to open their wallet. Should put some teams in cap trouble in no time.
 
2013-04-26 09:23:24 PM

INeedAName: UNC_Samurai: js34603: You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?

This is what trolling on the sports tab should embody.

I think the Ravens already trolled the sports tab. They've forced every team with a halfway decent qb to have to open their wallet. Should put some teams in cap trouble in no time.


Flacco's contract was also in line with reality. He's durable, young, has an awesome playoff record, and is a SB winner. Pay the man, and pay him WELL.
 
2013-04-26 10:12:49 PM
Subbys headline doesn't make sense. Anyways, good for Rodgers. I'll be wearing my #12 for at least the next 5 years
 
2013-04-26 10:19:16 PM
At some point QBs will be paid too much and start affecting others' starting salaries...just look at the mass exodus with the Ravens this year.  How high will too high be?  30 mil?  Yikes.
 
2013-04-26 10:22:17 PM

PainInTheASP: Honestly?  This was a real risky decision by the Packers.  Having a SB win is nice, but let's face it.  Aside from the miracle run, he's untested. And he's had injury problems in the past.  I don't know if he can make it consistently on the NFL level for the length of the contract.

You know who I'm thinking?  Tarvaris Jackson.  That dude has upsides.


You actually had me going until the last line. NICE jorb!
 
2013-04-26 10:54:41 PM
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2013-04-26 11:42:31 PM

Cheesehead_Dave: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 700x467]


Yeah, they aren't too kind to union members up there recently. Maybe he could run for governor or something, help lessen the intolerance toward Green Bay quarterbacks or something.
 
2013-04-26 11:51:22 PM
Who's Mr. Hubbard?
 
2013-04-27 12:09:34 AM
I would love it if rodgers gave half of his $40 million for the first year of the contract to Gov Walker, so he would quit politics, forever
 
2013-04-27 01:23:49 AM
Rodgers joins some elite company in the $100 million QB club:

goallinestand.com

www.beyondthebets.com

www.lifewithdogs.tv
 
2013-04-27 01:33:27 AM
Good extensions for Rodgers and Clay, good draft so far getting a big guy and a strong RB.

I am happy.
 
2013-04-27 03:54:11 AM

Killer Cars: I don't know if this was a good signing by the Football Packers of Green Bay, Wisconsin. I follow the respected NFL analyst and world-renowned theoretical physicist Valyncia Jennings, and she's had some critical things to say about this guy in the past.


Oh, you!
 
2013-04-27 04:00:38 AM

Fade2black: At some point QBs will be paid too much and start affecting others' starting salaries...just look at the mass exodus with the Ravens this year.  How high will too high be?  30 mil?  Yikes.


Ed Reed will be retired by the time the salary cap meat is taken off of the Ravens bone.
 
2013-04-27 05:04:48 AM
Wait?  Where is all of the "he's gonna kill the team with his big contract" talk that Flacco got?
 
2013-04-27 05:15:56 AM

degenerate-afro: Wait?  Where is all of the "he's gonna kill the team with his big contract" talk that Flacco got?


A lot of people underrate Flacco, but the fact is Aaron Rodgers is probably as good, right now, as any QB has been in the history of ever.
 
2013-04-27 06:13:23 AM

degenerate-afro: Wait?  Where is all of the "he's gonna kill the team with his big contract" talk that Flacco got?


Eh. The salary cap has been expanding for a long time. They have the space for it now, and it won't be as big of a percentage of the cap later on the deal (and, remember, it's not all guaranteed. So if he starts sucking, you can get off the hook for a lot of it). Ultimately, though, I think Rodgers is just more important to his team. Trent Dilfer won a super bowl with the Ravens. Their identity is their defense and their running game. Obviously Flacco is better than Dilfer. He's probably the best QB to ever put on a Ravens jersey. But it's not hard to think that they'd still be competitive without him, as they were even when they were running guys like Elvis Grbac, nearly 40 Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, and Anthony Wright at QB.

On the other hand, I don't think anyone thinks that the Packers would be anything above .500 with a league average QB. If you plug someone in there like... let's say Alex Smith... I don't think you have anywhere near the same results. Outside of perhaps Peyton Manning, it's hard to think of a QB who is as much the focal point of his team (Brady has a great run game, and Matt Cassel pretty much showed that NE wouldn't be horrible without him).
 
2013-04-27 08:06:02 AM

Fade2black: At some point QBs will be paid too much and start affecting others' starting salaries...just look at the mass exodus with the Ravens this year.  How high will too high be?  30 mil?  Yikes.


Flacco's contract has less than nothing to do with the 'exodus' from the Ravens. His cap # this year is only 6.8m, which is 1.2m LESS THAN LAST YEAR!
His cap hit as a franchised QB would have been about 18m.

The players that left the Ravens are gone for a lot of different reasons, but Joe's contract isn't one.

Ellerbe - overpaid by MIA, a 13 game starter with injury issues.
Kruger - WAY overpaid by CLE, a guy that had a great half a year after Suggs came back. Nearly considered a bust 2 years ago. Dumervil is better and being paid less than Kruger.
Lewis - retired
Birk - Retired
Reed - paid more by HOU, his production drop and injury issues didn't warrant that contract in my mind.
Pollard - a guy who's been cut from a number of teams, who wore out his welcome here off the field after reportedly screaming at other players and picking fights when they lost.
Williams - Cary was decent but not great, and had temper issues. He got paid by PHI and we didn't need him - he was our #2/3 guy until Webb got hurt.
Boldin - aging (but still very good) receiver who didn't want a lower salary under any circumstance. Not worth a long term contract that wasn't a pay cut, so he was traded for cap space. He had the second highest cap hit on the team - more than Joe's deal.
 
2013-04-27 09:09:02 AM

the biggest redneck here: INeedAName: UNC_Samurai: js34603: You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?

This is what trolling on the sports tab should embody.

I think the Ravens already trolled the sports tab. They've forced every team with a halfway decent qb to have to open their wallet. Should put some teams in cap trouble in no time.

Flacco's contract was also in line with reality. He's durable, young, has an awesome playoff record, and is a SB winner. Pay the man, and pay him WELL.


That's all well and good, but is he "elite"?  It takes more than a consistently strong playoff record and a superbowl win to be "elite".  He really needs to step up his game if he wants to be "elite".
 
2013-04-27 09:38:09 AM

lacydog: Trent Dilfer won a super bowl with the Ravens. Their identity is their defense and their running game. Obviously Flacco is better than Dilfer. He's probably the best QB to ever put on a Ravens jersey. But it's not hard to think that they'd still be competitive without him, as they were even when they were running guys like Elvis Grbac, nearly 40 Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, and Anthony Wright at QB.


The identity of the Ravens will be completely different this season.  It would certainly be presumptuous to presume that the defense will continue to carry the team the same way it was carried when Ray Lewis was in his prime.  Also the Packers had a higher ranked defense than the Ravens last year.

Greenbay 8th
Baltimore 19th

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef2012
 
2013-04-27 10:42:58 AM
This is an omen, he's going to get a major injury in the first half of the next season.
 
2013-04-27 10:44:13 AM
A little more perspective on the actual numbers in the Rodgers contract

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/27/crazy-as-it-sounds-r od gers-took-less/
 
2013-04-27 11:21:28 AM

born_yesterday: That's all well and good, but is he "elite"? It takes more than a consistently strong playoff record and a superbowl win to be "elite". He really needs to step up his game if he wants to be "elite".


If Eli is considered elite (he shouldn't be), then Flacco definitely should be, based on regular season win percentage alone.
 
2013-04-27 12:02:36 PM

born_yesterday: the biggest redneck here: INeedAName: UNC_Samurai: js34603: You have to ask: should he really be paid like Joe Flacco?

This is what trolling on the sports tab should embody.

I think the Ravens already trolled the sports tab. They've forced every team with a halfway decent qb to have to open their wallet. Should put some teams in cap trouble in no time.

Flacco's contract was also in line with reality. He's durable, young, has an awesome playoff record, and is a SB winner. Pay the man, and pay him WELL.

That's all well and good, but is he "elite"?  It takes more than a consistently strong playoff record and a superbowl win to be "elite".  He really needs to step up his game if he wants to be "elite".


I know right, I'd rather have Marino.

/No, I wouldn't.
//I'll take wins over numbers any day, and so would all of sports. But when it comes to Flacco, people seem to ignore that reality.
 
2013-04-27 12:02:47 PM

mjbok: born_yesterday: That's all well and good, but is he "elite"? It takes more than a consistently strong playoff record and a superbowl win to be "elite". He really needs to step up his game if he wants to be "elite".

If Eli is considered elite (he shouldn't be), then Flacco definitely should be, based on regular season win percentage alone.


I was being facetious, because of how many people deride Flacco, but as a Ravens fan, I've seen Flacco throw some really, really shiatty passes.  I mean one-hoppers into the dirt on quick out routes to an open receiver.  But he's proving to be able to throw one hell of a bomb, hitting covered receivers with the perfect arc.

Heh, and Eli owes much of his "elite" status to an inexplicably sticky helmet.  But he beat the Patriots, so he's got that going for him, which is nice.

/Haters gonna hate
 
2013-04-27 12:40:49 PM
Eagles grab Matt Barkley with 1st pick of 4th round. (Traded their 4th and one of their multiple 7ths to Jacksonville.)

Interesting. Obviously, Kelly would have seen a lot of Barkley on film (and in person) over the past few years, so Chip must feel comfortable with it. We'll see.
 
2013-04-27 01:46:21 PM

degenerate-afro: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef2012


I like how the entire NFCW is in the top 7

/sobs
 
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