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2013-04-26 03:26:14 PM
Also known as the Kardashian Effect.

Some times you don't even have a Chloe what's happening . . .
 
2013-04-26 03:50:43 PM
It is a rather kind method of executing someone. But if I was executing someone for murder, I'd prefer they suffer...
 
2013-04-26 03:54:16 PM
California has the problem in that death sentences are legal, however no one can actually be executed because they've determined that lethal injection is too easy to screw up, and must be performed by a doctor, and they can't find any doctor's willing to execute people.

I wonder if this would be considered humane enough?
 
2013-04-26 03:57:50 PM
Yeah seems like a better suicide chamber idea than for executions. I wouldn't mind going out that way especially if I found out I was gonna die a long suffering death if I didn't.
 
2013-04-26 04:05:39 PM
that was interesting .   just not enough brain horsepower to save your own life?  they are telling him to put his mask on or he will die.  i wonder if he can even hear them say that.

 he seems preoccupied with what he is holding. i guess it is like dealing with a really drunk person, you can talk to them all day long but they won't listen or do what you tell them
 
2013-04-26 04:20:17 PM
I had to do this for Combat Aircrew training in the Navy. We did the writing  / play paddycake exercises
 though. At the end of the chamber ride the paddycake people  were having a slap fight and laughing their asses off .
 
2013-04-26 04:20:50 PM
That was eerie.
 
2013-04-26 04:24:47 PM

ltdanman44: that was interesting .   just not enough brain horsepower to save your own life?  they are telling him to put his mask on or he will die.  i wonder if he can even hear them say that.

 he seems preoccupied with what he is holding. i guess it is like dealing with a really drunk person, you can talk to them all day long but they won't listen or do what you tell them


Your brain doesn't consider language processing, visual processing, or problem solving to be very important when it's expending all its resources trying to keep your heart and lungs and such functioning, even though in this instance they're the things you need most in order not to die.  With alcohol, the alcohol is suppressing such functions, but here, your brain is shutting itself down to conserve what little it has for as long as it can.
 
2013-04-26 04:34:22 PM
that was one of the first truly scary things I've seen in a while.  2 minutes from perfectly fine until essentially non functioning.  Also creepy to watch; motor control must be one of the last things to go because he was spinning that toy end over end right up till the got the mask back on him.
 
2013-04-26 04:43:48 PM
The altitude chamber is a very interesting experience. However, the physiology people rarely let it get to this stage and for good reason. Kinda led to an uneventful chamber ride for me. Well until I got a sinus block on the way down and felt like someone hit me with an icepick to the forehead.
 
2013-04-26 04:44:27 PM
It's really creepy that this a way to "force suicide" if you happen to have an altitude chamber or high-altitude vehicle of some sort.

"I don't know, detective. The dude just wouldn't put his mask back on. I shouted at him but he wouldn't listen."

I wonder how many pilots have gotten away with this?
 
2013-04-26 04:45:08 PM
I have to go though the chamber every 5 years at. There is always some jackass that refuses to recover and ends up like this guy. That defeats the whole purpose of the exercise. Plus that crap eats into my golf time.
 
2013-04-26 04:52:20 PM
This is why you put on your mask first, then try to help anyone near you.
 
2013-04-26 04:54:21 PM
...And people want to live on Mars. Ha!
 
2013-04-26 04:55:22 PM
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...or you die with this simultaneously terrifying and arousing image in your brain.
 
2013-04-26 05:23:29 PM

angry bunny: that was one of the first truly scary things I've seen in a while.  2 minutes from perfectly fine until essentially non functioning.  Also creepy to watch; motor control must be one of the last things to go because he was spinning that toy end over end right up till the got the mask back on him.


Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Though I'm wondering if the toy thing was more a "locked in a loop" situation. He was initially looking for the star-shaped slot, and spinning the toy to find it... but then just kept on spinning without really looking for it (or anything else) anymore. Like, his motor control was in "spin this toy" mode, and without other input from the higher brain to tell it to stop, it just kept on doing it. It never got the resolution it needed (putting the object in the slot), so it stayed in the loop, awaiting that resolution.

Semi-related: My grandmother has Alzheimer's, so her higher brain functions are deteriorating over time. She can still carry on conversations of a sort these days -- she still recognizes friends and family at this point -- but she gets stuck in a mental loop. The way the conversations go, it's easy to see that something comes to her, and her brain codes it as THIS IS IMPORTANT, so she'll mention it or ask a question related to it, but any answer in response, or internal note that she has already said whatever it is that qualified for THIS IS IMPORTANT just doesn't make it to the right part of her brain. Within seconds, she literally forgets having said/asked anything, but the THIS IS IMPORTANT center is still notifying her. So she asks/says it again. And again. And again. She gets stuck in this same type of loop as in the video, where the brain is locked into this concept of "the brain is waiting for the resolution that exits the loop" and has no idea that it's happening.
 
2013-04-26 05:43:12 PM

ZeroCorpse: It's really creepy that this a way to "force suicide" if you happen to have an altitude chamber or high-altitude vehicle of some sort.

"I don't know, detective. The dude just wouldn't put his mask back on. I shouted at him but he wouldn't listen."

I wonder how many pilots have gotten away with this?


Some places/people make suicide machines like this.  Get a Nitrogen or Helium canister, put a bag over your head or a mouth/nose mask piped to gas can.  Turn on, about 12 seconds later your out, and 2 minutes later dead and undetectable via autopsy.


//why no I haven't ever committed murder, why do people keep asking me that :)
 
2013-04-26 06:06:59 PM
BKITU:
Semi-related: My grandmother has Alzheimer's, so her higher brain functions are deteriorating over time. She can still carry on conversations of a sort these days -- she still recognizes friends and family at this point -- but she gets stuck in a mental loop. The way the conversations go, it's easy to see that something comes to her, and her brain codes it as THIS IS IMPORTANT, so she'll mention it or ask a question related to it, but any answer in response, or internal note that she has already said whatever it is that qualified for THIS IS IMPORTANT just doesn't make it to the right part of her brain. Within seconds, she literally forgets having said/asked anything, but the THIS IS IMPORTANT center is still notifying her. So she asks/says it again. And again. And again. She gets stuck in this same type of loop as in the video, where the brain is locked into this concept of "the brain is waiting for the resolution that exits the loop" and has no idea that it's happening.


This brings back memories of my own grandmother and her early signs of Alzheimer's.  We were visiting one summer and she repeatedly told us about a crime that had happened in the area that she had seen on the news.  Over and over and over again.  We were still young and stupid teenagers, and it became a running joke for us.  We'd ask, "How is the crime rate in Minneapolis?" and off she'd go.  We had never experienced Alzheimer's before and really didn't understand.  It's been 30+ years and I still feel guilty about that.
 
2013-04-26 06:31:40 PM
The last trip my grandfather took with his Alzheimer's was to our house. He thought he could walk home, not realizing that his house was 200 miles away.

He was becoming belligerent about it, and my dad nearly had to drug him to keep him relaxed.

When visiting him in the care home afterward, a different man always thought of me as his grandson, and was always so happy to see me. I thought it was neat and kind of funny, not realizing the severity of the disease at my young age.
 
2013-04-26 08:12:06 PM

ShawnDoc: California has the problem in that death sentences are legal, however no one can actually be executed because they've determined that lethal injection is too easy to screw up, and must be performed by a doctor, and they can't find any doctor's willing to execute people.

I wonder if this would be considered humane enough?


Besides that, drug companies want no part of supplying drugs for executions, due to the fact they want to do business globally and most countries they would do business in are anti-death penalty. A drugless, mechanical execution method that can survive an Eighth Amendment challenge may be something death penalty states want to look at, assuming they can't just get over it and accept that life without parole is a terrible enough punishment. The trick is, it's hard to be the first state to try a new execution method, since anything lethal is arguably "cruel" and if you're first to try it you're "unusual", and if it's "cruel and unusual" it's no go.
 
2013-04-26 08:34:50 PM

mark12A: It is a rather kind method of executing someone. But if I was executing someone for murder, I'd prefer they suffer...


I'm quite the opposite, in terms of opinion. This looks like a rather humane method of execution, and I'd much rather see this than the hell of an electrocution, or the torture of a botched lethal injection.
 
2013-04-26 09:22:25 PM

mark12A: It is a rather kind method of executing someone. But if I was executing someone for murder, I'd prefer they suffer...


I don't know.. all those damned questions are sort of a PITA...  TOss in some sound boards of Arnold S. or the Simpsons... "Who is your daddy, and what does he do?" at random to royally fark with them, too.

Kept waiting on him to pass out, though.
 
2013-04-26 09:30:11 PM
 
2013-04-26 10:45:25 PM
I'd like to try this on weed.
 
2013-04-27 12:09:58 AM

Hohlraum: Entire documentary   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj8Lj2CXu9k


thanks, I'm starting it now. fascinating.
 
2013-04-27 12:11:25 AM

hutchkc: Some places/people make suicide machines like this. Get a Nitrogen or Helium canister, put a bag over your head or a mouth/nose mask piped to gas can. Turn on, about 12 seconds later your out, and 2 minutes later dead and undetectable via autopsy.


Unless someone notices the bag over your head.
 
2013-04-27 12:27:51 AM
oh god! killing the bunnies with gas was horrible!
 
2013-04-27 12:49:35 AM
Jesus Christ! professor Robert Blecker is an asshole!
 
2013-04-27 01:37:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg

This is scary when it happens to a pilot
 
2013-04-27 04:52:00 AM
what does "put up the switches" mean
 
2013-04-27 06:40:48 AM

ltdanman44: what does "put up the switches" mean


It's a pilot test.  As in "do this now (put the switches in the up position so we/your passengers don't all die due to your hypoxia) and we should survive"
 
2013-04-27 06:45:17 AM
I had that exact toy when I was a kid.
 
2013-04-27 11:22:40 AM
that's amazing, as soon as the hypoxia set in, he began to act like a Republican Goon.
 
2013-04-27 11:23:46 AM

mark12A: It is a rather kind method of executing someone. But if I was executing someone for murder, I'd prefer they suffer...



then you would be bringing yourself down to their level.  in a way, they succeeded.  i'd be happy to let the f*cker pass out and die.
 
2013-04-27 11:24:16 AM
I was going to make some snarky comment regarding oxygen deprivation and the politics tab but this thread is too damn interesting. And, having dealt [poorly] with someone with mental problems, it's also damn depressing.

One of my relatives had deteriorating mental health. As an example at one point she asked me how to work the deadbolt on the door because she couldn't figure it out. The only thing I could think to say was the obvious. "Take the only thing that will move and turn it the only direction it will go." Later on, when her cancer and organ failure was full-on, the people in the hospital asked her basic questions and she got most fine. She could add, and she knew who the president was. And when they asked her what year it was, she said, "It's 1980. Yes, 1980." It wasn't until that very moment that I knew that something was terribly wrong. All those years I thought she was just a dumbass were actually her being very sick and her brain functions suffering because of it, and I had no idea.

/and nothing I can put in a slashie is going to change that or make me feel any better
 
2013-04-27 11:25:09 AM

LrdPhoenix: ltdanman44: that was interesting .   just not enough brain horsepower to save your own life?  they are telling him to put his mask on or he will die.  i wonder if he can even hear them say that.

 he seems preoccupied with what he is holding. i guess it is like dealing with a really drunk person, you can talk to them all day long but they won't listen or do what you tell them

Your brain doesn't consider language processing, visual processing, or problem solving to be very important when it's expending all its resources trying to keep your heart and lungs and such functioning, even though in this instance they're the things you need most in order not to die.  With alcohol, the alcohol is suppressing such functions, but here, your brain is shutting itself down to conserve what little it has for as long as it can.



he could have had the same result downing about 6-8 vodka tonics on an empty stomach.  ((::
 
2013-04-27 01:34:23 PM
Over the years I've heard quite a few people say the worst way to go would be Drowning.

I disagree.  Anyone with a solid background in swimming can tell you the opposite is true.  The "hurt"  you feel when you're underwater for too long is due to carbon dioxide build-up.  Once you get passed that, you actually feel really really good -- kinda like the guy in the video.  Granted, that's when your brain cells start dying off -- but it's a weird euphoric feeling.

We have some pretty intense (and painful) games of Sharks and Minnows in high school.  With experienced swimmers, the only way to keep them from making it across the pool underwater was to hold them in place until they ran out of air.  Then, theoretically, they'd surface on their own.  Unfortunately, some of us were more stubborn than others.  I got to that point a couple of times -- it felt so good it scared the crap out of me.
 
2013-04-27 02:54:32 PM

Blink: Over the years I've heard quite a few people say the worst way to go would be Drowning.


i would always say by dehydration.  would be brutal.
 
2013-04-27 04:14:08 PM

sn0wblind: Blink: Over the years I've heard quite a few people say the worst way to go would be Drowning.

i would always say by dehydration.  would be brutal.


It IS brutal. I almost went that way. It was the most pain I ever felt in my life. I was at the threshold of begging to be knocked out or euthanized. It was horrible.
 
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