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2013-04-26 02:34:10 PM
5 votes:
The Republican hatred of the working class is absolutely astounding

/they really do want to return to slavery
2013-04-26 01:58:51 PM
5 votes:
So you'd rather have someone come in with strep and infect the entire, or if they are in food service, many many more people, than to have them stay home two days and come in when they are no longer contagious?  is that what I'm seeing?
2013-04-26 03:43:32 PM
4 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Republican hatred of the working class is absolutely astounding

/they really do want to return to slavery



Not quite. I think they want the Confederate model. They may be poor, but they won't be the poorest. The bottom will consist of a visibly-identifiable underclass.
2013-04-26 04:07:39 PM
3 votes:

mrshowrules: Flint Ironstag: I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.

Did they administer the antibiotics?  Because even that would have been free here in Canada.


I hate both of you.

Would either of you be interested in a sham marriage so I can get the hell out of the US?

Anyway, are people starting to understand yet that corporate greed is a huge problem? *crickets*
2013-04-26 03:50:24 PM
3 votes:
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USA, we're number one in screwing the working man.


/and people wonder why there are unions in the US.
2013-04-26 02:52:59 PM
3 votes:
Earned sick pay, no less.
2013-04-26 02:38:18 PM
3 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Republican hatred of the working class is absolutely astounding

/they really do want to return to slavery


What the majority of the people who label themselves as Republicans don't seem to get is that they would be the slaves.
2013-04-26 06:02:51 PM
2 votes:

organizmx: Flint Ironstag: I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.

How does it feel to not be free?


Like not being "free" to be driven into bankruptcy by medical bills? Like being free from having to choose whether or not to call an ambulance for someone because they might just be really drunk and if I call an ambulance they'll get stuck with a $1000 bill?

I'm also free from having to carry ID when driving, free from having to give my name and address to any cop who asks*, free to video cops with my cellphone*, and cops aren't allowed to lie to me during questioning, I feel quite happy actually.

*Unlike many states in the US.
2013-04-26 04:45:29 PM
2 votes:

Needlessly Complicated: Here's how it works here, though: Moneyed interests (big corporations) put money in candidates' coffers who get elected by dumb people* who are dumb because the moneyed interests get the elected politicians to legislate tax breaks and lax regulations for them while decreasing funding for public education (and anything else that would benefit the populace). Candidates continued to be rewarded by these moneyed interests. And so it goes in a vicious cycle. For the record, I am not anti-capitalism. I'm pro-capitalism but not at the expense of the welfare of the general populace.

*These candidates know how to appeal to dumber voters' emotions and base instincts as well, but that's another story for another time.


True but the underlying problem is this:

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2013-04-26 04:18:52 PM
2 votes:
This is why corporate political donations needs to be banned period. private donations only and all must be disclosed fully.
2013-04-26 03:49:30 PM
2 votes:
But won't someone please think of the poor company administrator that will have to deal with a "patchwork of laws" regarding sick leave?

Heaven forbid the poor administrator has to have different sick leave policies for its stores in Tampa and Orlando.

I love how the GOP always gives handouts to business then tries to claim that it's just trying to make the system "efficient."  I guess eliminating regulations is "efficient" in that it makes it easier for companies to not provide paid sick leave.  But I think there's a problem with a political party who thinks the only obligation of the government is to help businesses save money - particularly where it's at the expense of public health.
2013-04-26 02:22:34 PM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: So you'd rather have someone come in with strep and infect the entire, or if they are in food service, many many more people, than to have them stay home two days and come in when they are no longer contagious?  is that what I'm seeing?


Welcome to Florida. They don't believe in Darwinian evolution, they just practice survival of the fittest.
2013-04-26 01:14:16 PM
2 votes:

naughtyrev: Gotta love that respect for democracy there. A couple dozen people voted to block the ability of the people to exercise their right to hold a referendum because another small group of people write the checks.


Yep.  Take Orange County for example.

The people have no say.  But entertainment and hospitality lobbyists can work the commissioners like freaking marionettes while the actual debate was occurring.
2013-04-26 01:09:04 PM
2 votes:
Gotta love that respect for democracy there. A couple dozen people voted to block the ability of the people to exercise their right to hold a referendum because another small group of people write the checks.
2013-04-26 06:30:12 PM
1 votes:
"There is a need for uniform regulation throughout the state," said Simmons. "If you happen to be an employer who has multiple locations, you can imagine if you had to deal with a patchwork of various regulations. In the local government, it would be a disaster."

If only there was some way for the state to pass a law that would affect everyone in the state the same way. Like, by maybe passing a law requiring all companies in FL to provide paid sick leave.
2013-04-26 05:14:00 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: FL Legislature wants you to work while you're sick, and makes sure you have no say in the matter

And of course TFA says nothing of the sort, rather being about a legislator wanting uniformity of regulations regarding sick pay rather than a patchwork where every podunk municipality can have a different set that businesses have to deal with. The horror.


*wink wink*

You have to be one ignorant son of a biatch (or Republican...but I repeat myself) if you think this has anything to do with differences between municipalities for multiple locations.  This is 100% about limiting sick pay for workers.  San Francisco implemented this policy in 2006.  Has it affected businesses in one of the nation's major centers of commerce?
2013-04-26 04:40:49 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: FL Legislature wants you to work while you're sick, and makes sure you have no say in the matter

And of course TFA says nothing of the sort, rather being about a legislator wanting uniformity of regulations regarding sick pay rather than a patchwork where every podunk municipality can have a different set that businesses have to deal with. The horror.


Then how and why was is squashed in Orange County, by Orange County?  It wasn't because they wanted to wait for statewide uniformity.
2013-04-26 04:32:40 PM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: If you get sick, you shouldn't come to work. that would be cruel and unusual, not to mention bad policy. You should simply be fired for cause (getting sick), lose your health insurance, and not receive unemployment benefits. They are lawful, not chaotic, evil


You just reminded me of how I got fired once from a restaurant job for breaking my foot (no, it was not broken on the job).
2013-04-26 04:28:54 PM
1 votes:
Making sure regulations are the same across the state to make things easier on businesses?  OK, sure.
But then turn around and pass a law requiring that they all give sick leave across the state.  You bastards.
2013-04-26 04:28:19 PM
1 votes:
How about everyone boycott all restaurants in Florida because you don't want sick people making your food? Think that would impact businesses in Florida?
2013-04-26 04:27:54 PM
1 votes:
I'm sure Governor Lex Luthor is eager as Hell to sign this P.O.S..
2013-04-26 04:18:37 PM
1 votes:

Third Day Mark: /Ms. Jacobs, this flaming bag of dog shiat is for you, sign here please.


And she's running for reelection.  She deserves  KHITBASH.
2013-04-26 04:17:20 PM
1 votes:
If their beef is really with having statewide consistency, then I'm sure none of these fine legislators would have a problem with putting it on a state ballot.

Check back when it makes the state ballot and see how much these farks change their tune.

Also, if it truly is being rejected because 'boo-hoo local variation,' why was it fought tooth and nail (and illegally) in Orange County as I cited above -- Lobbyists texting county commissioners IN SESSION while debating it
2013-04-26 04:13:39 PM
1 votes:
This is going to make for another great Typhoid Mary episode. Enjoy a kitchen worker's sinuses dripping into your food.
2013-04-26 04:12:53 PM
1 votes:

Needlessly Complicated: mrshowrules: Flint Ironstag: I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.

Did they administer the antibiotics?  Because even that would have been free here in Canada.

I hate both of you.

Would either of you be interested in a sham marriage so I can get the hell out of the US?

Anyway, are people starting to understand yet that corporate greed is a huge problem? *crickets*


Corporate greed isn't the problem.  It is the voters not electing politicians who put checks and balances in place against the corporate greed.  Despite having single-payer, Canada still has a robust private sector economy in health care and health care insurance.
2013-04-26 04:02:56 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Flint Ironstag: I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.

Did they administer the antibiotics?  Because even that would have been free here in Canada.


Prescriptions in the UK are a flat rate of £7.85 per prescription. Kids, the elderly, expectant and new mothers, certain unemployed and other very poor people and people with particular illnesses get prescriptions for free.
2013-04-26 04:01:38 PM
1 votes:

codergirl42: "There is a need for uniform regulation throughout the state," said Simmons. "If you happen to be an employer who has multiple locations, you can imagine if you had to deal with a patchwork of various regulations. In the local government, it would be a disaster."

You mean a patchwork of various regulations like local sales tax? Local sales tax has really turned into a farking disaster for employers with multiple locations...


It's why there is no such thing as a multinational corporation either.

The one I'm sitting in right now is imaginary.
2013-04-26 04:01:03 PM
1 votes:
"If you happen to be an employer who has multiple locations, you can imagine if you had to deal with a patchwork of various regulations. In the local government, it would be a disaster."


Yeah, imagine if there were 50 little fiefdoms who could make up their own regulations.  It would be far better to have one set of laws.
2013-04-26 03:26:30 PM
1 votes:
Fine. I'll just come to work and get everyone else sick.

Let the companies do as they will. So long as the executives are equally exposed to the sneezes and germs, I'm all for this. Otherwise, this is class-based discrimination and segregated working conditions.
2013-04-26 03:24:44 PM
1 votes:

Flint Ironstag: I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.


Did they administer the antibiotics?  Because even that would have been free here in Canada.
2013-04-26 03:05:24 PM
1 votes:
I'm off work sick at the moment, and coughing violently while infectious, and have visited my doctor three times in the last couple of weeks, so I'm really getting a kick etc.

Thankfully I live in the socialist paradise of Great Britain so I get sick pay and the doctor visits cost me nothing. Each course of antibiotics did cost me $12 though.
2013-04-26 02:28:25 PM
1 votes:
So when it's the federal government it should keep it's nose out of local matters, but when it's the state government it should meddle all it wants. That's not the least bit contradictory....
2013-04-26 01:05:26 PM
1 votes:
Haven't opened the article.. but IU am guessing his name is followed by a (R)?
 
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