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2013-04-26 12:48:29 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: bukijin: If there was a way of watching it without subscribing to fox cable or using an apple product then I would be very happy to pay for it.

But frankly GOT has bigger problems than illegal downloads...like how about finishing the books !! The TV series is just distracting the man from his writing. Back to work !

The show is better than the books. Yeah, I said it.



You're right, but I thought the books were mediocre.

As for piracy, I would guess a fair number of people who'd never heard of it otherwise stole the show, watched it, then bought a copy of the book because they don't know what a library is or just lack the whole delayed gratification thing and don't want to wait for the library to order it.
 
2013-04-26 12:49:09 PM

pute kisses like a man: wasn't there a rumor not too long ago that HBO was considering to allow HBO GO to be available to non-HBO subscribers?


Why would I wanna watch Boxing? Or Bill Maher?
 
2013-04-26 12:50:27 PM

Precision Boobery: I also enjoyed this caption:

This is a publicity image released by HBO of Sean Bean portraying Eddard Stark in a scene from the HBO series, "Game of Thrones."

WE DIDN'T PIRATE THIS PICTURE!  PUBLICITY IMAGE!  OFFICIALLY RELEASED!  DON'T HIT ME!


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-26 12:50:41 PM

Precision Boobery: Good.  That should put a stop to this "piracy" thing.  Now we can focus on the real scourge:  inviting your non-HBO-having friends over to your house for a viewing party.  Your friends are criminals.  Thieving, freeloading vultures, the lot of them.


Unless they brought food and drink.

Then and only then can they can enter.
 
2013-04-26 12:51:01 PM

Precision Boobery: Good.  That should put a stop to this "piracy" thing.  Now we can focus on the real scourge:  inviting your non-HBO-having friends over to your house for a viewing party.  Your friends are criminals.  Thieving, freeloading vultures, the lot of them.


My neighbor once left his blinds open, and I accidentally saw an HBO show he was viewing. I had to turn myself in and pay a hefty fine, because I am not a criminal.
 
2013-04-26 12:52:08 PM

ha-ha-guy: Teiritzamna: ha-ha-guy: Now you're just playing the idiot. Most people with an IQ above a radish can read the implied context of "had to pirate due to lack of availability via digital distribution channels, unlike the vast majority of other current shows". If you can't, I feel sorry for you.

Translation: i have decided that i want a thing but i do not like the price point/distribution model that it is offered for.  Thus instead of doing without - which heaven forfend i could not possibly do for some reason -  I shall obtain it without paying.  I shall also indicate that this decision to obtain something that i wanted in an extra legal fashion was somehow someone else's fault.  Because damn it i have a right to watch that show the way i want to - its in the constitution or somethin'.

I'm just the invisible hand of the market and you're a troll, such is life.


So if you were a content provider, you'd be okay with people infringing your copyright?
 
2013-04-26 12:52:12 PM
I didn't know Warner Brothers had its own ambassador.
 
2013-04-26 12:52:30 PM

mcreadyblue: Endive Wombat: justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.

That's the thing that amazes me about TV Networks.  You've got a country full of people jumping up and down with fists full of cash, and yet, the US entertainment industry acts as if they are above needing their money and refuses to adapt with...quite frankly, the new generation that has grown up with the internet and instant gratification when it comes to entertainment.

And heaven forbid HBO allow people without out cable to subscribe.


Actually, HBO is about to launch HBOGo (the online version of the channel) to people without cable TV.
 
2013-04-26 12:53:13 PM

kapaso: bukijin: If there was a way of watching it without subscribing to fox cable or using an apple product then I would be very happy to pay for it.

But frankly GOT has bigger problems than illegal downloads...like how about finishing the books !! The TV series is just distracting the man from his writing. Back to work !

I'm a big fan of the show so I was going to read the series. I wanted to make sure it was worth it so I checked it out a little. I hate to spoil everyone's fun but as the story moves along it becomes clear the author has created a mess with way to many storylines and characters with no sign of any decent conclusion. His books are getting very wordy, without movIng along the story, which is really bad considering The most recent GoT book had a more stories and characters than the bible. I hope he brings in another writer or even a team to help him salvage the work.


THIS.  I trudged through the last book in hopes that he was just bringing it out wide before closing the lose ends with a bang.  I don't know how that's possible at this point.
 
2013-04-26 12:54:24 PM

Weaver95: HBO set game of thrones up so that you are almost forced to pirate the damn thing if you want to see it on time and not buy their entire gotdamn cable channel.


You know what I did?

I just bought the whole damn cable channel. I kept it long enough to watch True Blood and then cancel. I always get Stars for free (Love me some Spartacus) and they discount it a fair amount.

If you dont want to do it that way then you dont want to watch it bad enough. Just wait for the DVDs to come out and stop whining.
 
2013-04-26 12:55:20 PM

NutWrench: I didn't know Warner Brothers had its own ambassador.


The ambassador from HoBOstan.
 
2013-04-26 12:57:16 PM

Endive Wombat: justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.

That's the thing that amazes me about TV Networks.  You've got a country full of people jumping up and down with fists full of cash, and yet, the US entertainment industry acts as if they are above needing their money and refuses to adapt with...quite frankly, the new generation that has grown up with the internet and instant gratification when it comes to entertainment.


Man, it's ain't even only the US.  Other countries do the same thing only even worse, because they assume there's no market for their stuff outside the borders.  Sometimes they purposely region restrict stuff, other times they just use some distribution model that's impossible to get membership in without having accounts in certain banks or something like that, but either way, it's a roadblock, and so people will pirate.  There's also tons of expat-aimed pages about how to get media when living in the "wrong" country for this reason.

Some stuff I manage to to get "legally" with the quotes on, I pay for it, but I have to jump through hoops to find a way to pay and I have to fake my location with a VPN.  If the stuff is available for torrent, torrent is definitely the easier way to go.

Speaking of which... iTunes. Yeah, some of the shows I want, I can get via iTunes. But I can't pay for them with US money or a US credit card, so I have to jump through various hoops to buy iTunes gift cards over the internet (iTunes gift cards are restricted by country).  It's stupid. Basically some middleman on the internet is getting some money from me (they charge overhead, it's how THEY make money) that either iTunes or the show creator could be getting, if only they'd make the stuff available to my locale.  Heck, they could charge me overhead for "foreign" points if they want, but the idea just never occurs.
 
2013-04-26 12:57:42 PM
The problem's not Australians.  It's U.S. citizens with an Aussie VPN.

Not that I'd know about that of course.
 
2013-04-26 12:58:27 PM

People_are_Idiots: pute kisses like a man: wasn't there a rumor not too long ago that HBO was considering to allow HBO GO to be available to non-HBO subscribers?

Why would I wanna watch Boxing? Or Bill Maher?


i don't have HBO Go, or HBO, or TV service.  but, when I set up my Roku, HBO GO was advertised to me.  I clicked on it and it said, watch all the latest shows on demand, including game of thrones.  perhaps that was a liar that people on the inside make to people on the outside, but it certainly ruffled my feathers.
 
2013-04-26 12:59:47 PM

pute kisses like a man: perhaps that was a liar


lie.

hmm, that's not even a spelling or typographical error.  that's a full blown thought error.  confusing actor and act.  yikes.
 
2013-04-26 12:59:51 PM

Brittabot: I refuse to pay close to $25 a month for a movie package just so I can watch one channel one hour a week.


Extremely very much this too.  Digital content sellers (in various countries) would probably sell more if they had a per-show purchase model. Some places do, and it's great.  Print could stand to have a similar model available also - maybe I want to read THIS issue of the New Yorker, but I don't want to subscribe for the whole damn year.
 
2013-04-26 01:00:19 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Igor Jakovsky: there really is no need to dl it with torrents if you can just stream it for free about an hour after the broadcast. Or you could do what i did and call up comcast and biatch about the rates and they may not only lower your rate but give you more channels and hbo for free. i called them and threatened to go to uverse. they knocked $25 a month off my bill gave me their upper tier package with hbo for free. if they are doing things like that they must actually feel threatened by uverse or people cutting off the cable in general. if they had not helped me out i would have done one or the other.

You've got leverage because Comcast has competition in your area. Sadly, not every region has that advantage.


that is a good point because the only competition they would have had before uverse moved in was directtv or dish and both of those suck when it rains and i dont think comcast really cares about those 2 anyway. uverse made a major push in my area and i know more than a few people who switched.

on another note hbogo is pretty freaking awesome if you liked their original series

sopranos
the wire
six feet under
oz
etc etc all complete and on demand.
 
2013-04-26 01:01:41 PM

Weaver95: Since when did this become the unites states of HBO? This isn't something the us government should be overly concerned about.


This is actually a large part of what the Department of State does.  They advocate for US interests.  It is not always this high profile or accessible to the public, but they often are involved in representing us (citizen and citizen employers) to foreign governments.

Things like: "hey China, if you keep market dumping solar panels in an effort to corner the market, we will have to raise import tariffs to keep US manufacturers alive."
 
2013-04-26 01:02:26 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: If you dont want to do it that way then you dont want to watch it bad enough. Just wait for the DVDs to come out and stop whining.


The 90s called. They want your moronically inefficient distribution models back.
 
2013-04-26 01:05:53 PM
The thing with piracy is that it's about people's own moral code and where they feel they are in life.

Students pirate and always pirate. They don't have money, so they just grab it. Adults with money don't pirate, because they feel it's not moral to do so when they have a reasonable amount of income.

The problem with GoT is this: Let's say that I'm a fantasy nut. I love fantasy stuff, and people are telling me to watch GoT. Right, so I take a look at what to do to get the current series from Sky, which includes catching up, and it's as follows:-

£26.50/month. Minimum contract of 12 months. So, that's a total of £318, to see 10 hours of entertainment per year. The equivalent of paying £60 to see a movie.
Or
wait nearly a year after to buy it on DVD. After which, every plot element has been spoilt for you by other people.
Or
Buy a usenet account for 3 months for about £20 and grab the farker in DIVX format, within an hour of an episode finishing.

No-one cares if it's illegal. They do care about if the price is sensible for them. If it's not, they'll just grab it anyway.
 
2013-04-26 01:06:15 PM

Snarfangel: Precision Boobery: Good.  That should put a stop to this "piracy" thing.  Now we can focus on the real scourge:  inviting your non-HBO-having friends over to your house for a viewing party.  Your friends are criminals.  Thieving, freeloading vultures, the lot of them.

My neighbor once left his blinds open, and I accidentally saw an HBO show he was viewing. I had to turn myself in and pay a hefty fine, because I am not a criminal.


I wonder... if everyone did that and just flooded the system... would that make this shiat stop?
 
2013-04-26 01:06:42 PM

Malacon: Igor Jakovsky: there really is no need to dl it with torrents if you can just stream it for free about an hour after the broadcast. Or you could do what i did and call up comcast and biatch about the rates and they may not only lower your rate but give you more channels and hbo for free. i called them and threatened to go to uverse. they knocked $25 a month off my bill gave me their upper tier package with hbo for free. if they are doing things like that they must actually feel threatened by uverse or people cutting off the cable in general. if they had not helped me out i would have done one or the other.

I biatched about my rates a while ago, and they kinda hinted they'd give me HBO but I was trying to bring my bill down, so I told them no. Kind of regret it, honestly. I probably gain anything in cash off by turning down HBO.

A friend just lets me borrow his HBOGO password, so I watch it the next day.


FYI it's available on there as soon as its done airing. I do the same thing.
 
2013-04-26 01:07:18 PM

pute kisses like a man: People_are_Idiots: pute kisses like a man: wasn't there a rumor not too long ago that HBO was considering to allow HBO GO to be available to non-HBO subscribers?

Why would I wanna watch Boxing? Or Bill Maher?

i don't have HBO Go, or HBO, or TV service.  but, when I set up my Roku, HBO GO was advertised to me.  I clicked on it and it said, watch all the latest shows on demand, including game of thrones.  perhaps that was a liar that people on the inside make to people on the outside, but it certainly ruffled my feathers.


xbox live advertises it too but when you click on the icon it says that you have to be an hbo cable subscriber to use it.
 
2013-04-26 01:08:12 PM
After our misadventure in New Zealand, maybe it's time to just accept that the planet gives no farks about our bullshiat content cartel rules.
 
2013-04-26 01:08:35 PM

bukijin: If there was a way of watching it without subscribing to fox cable or using an apple product then I would be very happy to pay for it.

But frankly GOT has bigger problems than illegal downloads...like how about finishing the books !! The TV series is just distracting the man from his writing. Back to work !


Martin has only had 5,000+ pages to try and form a plot and has failed so far.  What's the rush?
 
2013-04-26 01:08:43 PM

Endive Wombat: justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.

That's the thing that amazes me about TV Networks.  You've got a country full of people jumping up and down with fists full of cash, and yet, the US entertainment industry acts as if they are above needing their money and refuses to adapt with...quite frankly, the new generation that has grown up with the internet and instant gratification when it comes to entertainment.


The industry simply refuses to move forward. They have a business model that rakes in plenty of cash and they refuse to change. Screw the consumers, they just want to keep milking their current model forever. It's short-sighted and stupid, but then again these are human beings we're talking about.
 
2013-04-26 01:08:48 PM

impaler: Here's the full comic:

Link


More than a little ironic that Oatmeal was the one complaining about Funnyjunk stealing his stuff and making money off advertising.
s3.amazonaws.com

/"But it's different when  I do it!"
 
2013-04-26 01:08:58 PM

Teiritzamna: ha-ha-guy: Now you're just playing the idiot. Most people with an IQ above a radish can read the implied context of "had to pirate due to lack of availability via digital distribution channels, unlike the vast majority of other current shows". If you can't, I feel sorry for you.

Translation: i have decided that i want a thing but i do not like the price point/distribution model that it is offered for.  Thus instead of doing without - which heaven forfend i could not possibly do for some reason -  I shall obtain it without paying.  I shall also indicate that this decision to obtain something that i wanted in an extra legal fashion was somehow someone else's fault.  Because damn it i have a right to watch that show the way i want to - its in the constitution or somethin'.


I'm glad you understand. Except for the blaming sometime else part. I don't. I download it because I enjoy it and don't want to pay for it (although I am considering buying the blu rays). I really don't give a shiat what other people think about it.

/YMMV
 
2013-04-26 01:10:04 PM

ha-ha-guy: Teiritzamna: ha-ha-guy: Now you're just playing the idiot. Most people with an IQ above a radish can read the implied context of "had to pirate due to lack of availability via digital distribution channels, unlike the vast majority of other current shows". If you can't, I feel sorry for you.

Translation: i have decided that i want a thing but i do not like the price point/distribution model that it is offered for.  Thus instead of doing without - which heaven forfend i could not possibly do for some reason -  I shall obtain it without paying.  I shall also indicate that this decision to obtain something that i wanted in an extra legal fashion was somehow someone else's fault.  Because damn it i have a right to watch that show the way i want to - its in the constitution or somethin'.

I'm just the invisible hand of the market and you're a troll, such is life.


This'd be the old "I disagree with you, therefore you're a troll" argument? It's considered highly persuasive in some circles.
 
2013-04-26 01:10:38 PM

Teiritzamna: ha-ha-guy: Now you're just playing the idiot. Most people with an IQ above a radish can read the implied context of "had to pirate due to lack of availability via digital distribution channels, unlike the vast majority of other current shows". If you can't, I feel sorry for you.

Translation: i have decided that i want a thing but i do not like the price point/distribution model that it is offered for.  Thus instead of doing without - which heaven forfend i could not possibly do for some reason -  I shall obtain it without paying.  I shall also indicate that this decision to obtain something that i wanted in an extra legal fashion was somehow someone else's fault.  Because damn it i have a right to watch that show the way i want to - its in the constitution or somethin'.


I agree that HBO's archaic business model doesn't make it okay to illegally download, but which sounds like an easier solution to this "problem":
1. Change human nature and basic economics
2. HBO offers the same service that everyone else in the industry uses.
 
2013-04-26 01:11:02 PM
Apparently HBO never heard of tivo.

Pssst, HBO, Its like a VCR. You remember those, right? They were used to share content before the internet.

Some people will never pay for content no mater what price point.
 
2013-04-26 01:11:47 PM

Theaetetus: impaler: Here's the full comic:

Link

More than a little ironic that Oatmeal was the one complaining about Funnyjunk stealing his stuff and making money off advertising.
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/"But it's different when  I do it!"


The Oatmeal has a complex distribution model that makes it difficult for fans to buy?

No?

Then how is that ironic?
 
2013-04-26 01:14:01 PM

impaler: The 90s called. They want your moronically inefficient distribution models back.


It's the content provider's call. I'm sure Fark isn't the only people that has told HBO that "hey if you sale your top rated show per episode people may buy it". You think that's an original idea?! No. I guess HBO has figured that there are enough people out there like me (who will just sign up for the service) to off set the people who would only buy it on demand.

I don't think I would buy it per episode anyway. I like watching things on the big screen in the living room and I haven't figured out how to get my tv to run my Itunes content on it. I know I could just get an Apple TV but those are like a hundred bucks. I have a Wifi Samsung Airplay thingy that I use for net flicks and I also have a PS3 but I'll be damn if I can get it to show me all my movies. Ran monitor cable (inside the walls) from my computer to my TV but it's so slow and not in HD! And I have to go to the computer room to pause, fast forward or rewind.

I have tech issues.
 
2013-04-26 01:15:18 PM

impaler: Theaetetus: impaler: Here's the full comic:

Link

More than a little ironic that Oatmeal was the one complaining about Funnyjunk stealing his stuff and making money off advertising.
[s3.amazonaws.com image 420x853]

/"But it's different when  I do it!"

The Oatmeal has a complex distribution model that makes it difficult for fans to buy?

No?

Then how is that ironic?


Because he's complaining about someone making money off of advertising while illegally redistributing his content. Seems pretty apt.
 
2013-04-26 01:15:28 PM

justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.


And if they would stop dressing so slutty they wouldn't get raped.
 
2013-04-26 01:16:48 PM

AgentBang: People's ability to justify taking things because they aren't available the way that they want them is astounding. No one has to pirate anything, they choose to because they can't get it.

B-b-b-but there's a TV SHOW, and I WANT IT and, I can't get it so I guess I have to steal it! It's HBO's fault!

/bracing for wildfire attack


No one HAS to be a douche, you just CHOOSE to.

Seriously, no one is debating what you said.  No one has said that ever.  You're being a giant douche, and no one gives a single flying fark about whatever it is you think your point is.  fark off and fark yourself then choke to death on a big old flaming bowl of your own fark-soaked dick.
 
2013-04-26 01:18:18 PM

Endive Wombat: That's the thing that amazes me about TV Networks.  You've got a country full of people jumping up and down with fists full of cash, and yet, the US entertainment industry acts as if they are above needing their money and refuses to adapt with...quite frankly, the new generation that has grown up with the internet and instant gratification when it comes to entertainment.


What none of these networks have grasped is how people now communicate globally. I'm in the UK. I heard about Archer because of Fark. I see people on here discussing Dr Who and I know a lot of them are torrenting it, because no-one even makes it available.

Now, can I get Archer in the UK? No-one broadcasts it. Right, so I can get it on DVD, yes. Well, only if I'll take S1 and S2. Which I now have. But I've watched S3 and S4 on some Chinese flash sites, because I simply have no legal way to watch them in the UK. £12 for the S2 Blu Ray. No problemo. Ask me £12-15 for S3 or S4 and I'll click the "Buy Now" button. But you don't even give me a way to stuff fivers in your pockets.
 
2013-04-26 01:19:32 PM

Theaetetus: Because he's complaining about someone making money off of advertising while illegally redistributing his content. Seems pretty apt.


So because he complained about a complex distribution model that makes it difficult for him to buy GoT, he can't complain about someone making money off of advertising while illegally redistributing his content? That makes no sense.
 
2013-04-26 01:21:13 PM

Steak_Cake_Sause: Apparently HBO never heard of tivo.

Pssst, HBO, Its like a VCR. You remember those, right? They were used to share content before the internet.

Some people will never pay for content no mater what price point.


You use Tivo to share content with nonpaying subscribers?  How do you do that?
 
2013-04-26 01:21:19 PM
It's just dumb for HBO to keep holding out on allowing subscriptions only to cable subscribers. The cable companies won't let you get HBO without a certain higher tier, and by the end of it all, you're paying over $100 a month for access to HBO.

The actual monthly fee for HBO ranges from $15 to $20 depending on your cable provider (Comcast is the highest, Charter is the lowest). The major cost comes from that requirement for other cable service. If HBO could circumvent that requirement, I'm certain they'd make a crapload of money from people paying $10 or $15 per month for an HBO Go subscription.

Or you can get Navi-X for Boxee, XBMC or Plex (which works on the Roku) and find a user list with Game of Thrones (or whatever you want) and directly stream it without too much concern about the DMCA coming to haunt you. If you don't want to wait for the stream, you can probably find an HBO live stream, and it might even work, and watch it as it airs.

Or, if you're more into downloading, you can pay $8 per month for a decent VPN and then go for the torrents. That's certainly cheaper than $100 per month. There's still risk involved (especially if you have a DNS leak) but until you get that first DMCA notice, it's all gravy. After that, you might be smart to pull back and seek other options.

I'd be fine with paying for HBO Go directly. The same goes for AMC and other cable channels. I just don't want to pay a hundred bucks or more per month for three channels I want, and several dozen I absolutely hate. It's not equitable. It's forcing me to buy something I don't need or want in order to get what I do want.

If restaurants did this, you'd have to buy the lobster dinner in order to order a piece of pie.
 
2013-04-26 01:21:34 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: Seriously, no one is debating what you said. No one has said that ever.


ha-ha-guy: GoT is the first show in awhile I've had to pirate. Almost everything else is up in iTunes, Play, or Amazon within 24 hours of its air date. Eventually I'll go back and buy the show off iTunes or perhaps physical DVDs, but I figure I'll let the digital media sales flag for a bit to voice my displeasure with HBO's model.

sounds like someone did
 
2013-04-26 01:22:55 PM

justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.


You can purchase HBO GO in June without a cable subscription, so I'm not sure what you're carrying on about.
 
2013-04-26 01:25:11 PM

farkeruk: £26.50/month. Minimum contract of 12 months. So, that's a total of £318, to see 10 hours of entertainment per year. The equivalent of paying £60 to see a movie.


Quite.

Though we'd seriously be thinking about buying a Sky Go subscription if it was actually possible to buy a Sky Go subscription (seriously WTF)
 
2013-04-26 01:25:39 PM

grandjedimasterbill: Brittabot: I refuse to pay close to $25 a month for a movie package just so I can watch one channel one hour a week.

That said, I'd be more than willing to pay per episode or per season if I could download the show the same night it plays on television.

Since I can't do that, my only other option is to use less than legal means to get the show.

/Canadian


No. I agree with everything you said, except that part.  I really want to watch Game of Thrones, but I don't, for the reasons you've listed here. But I (and you) am not entitled to watch the show. I am unwilling to purchase the service at the prices they offer, so I do not. Pirating the show only sends the message that the DRM isn't "good enough".


I see what you're saying and I don't neccesarily think anyone is entitled to watch the show, I just love the show and desperately want to see it RIGHTNOW so I download it. It might be wrong of me to do it, but what can I say, I have poor impulse control. Plus I do buy the seasons on bluray when they are released so it's not like HBO is getting nothing from me.

The networks really need to find a way to reach audiences in a better way because there are so many people who would gladly pay to download the show the day of (or at least the next day). They should look at shows that are heavily pirated as an opportunity to make the shows people clearly love available online legally faster and easier so they can get paid and people can get their shows when they want.

Piracy isn't right, and no, people aren't entitled to a TV show, but networks who refuse to get with the times are certainly not helping. If they offered a reasonable alternative, the piracy would likely drop significantly.

/I just want to watch my show goddamnit!
 
2013-04-26 01:26:24 PM

machodonkeywrestler: justtray: Maybe HBO should consider updating their distribution model and stop hiding behind copyright violations?

Novel thought, I know.

You can purchase HBO GO in June without a cable subscription, so I'm not sure what you're carrying on about.


Great. Too bad that they decided not to do this for the first 3 seasons of GOT
 
2013-04-26 01:27:11 PM

farkeruk: What none of these networks have grasped is how people now communicate globally. I'm in the UK. I heard about Archer because of Fark. I see people on here discussing Dr Who and I know a lot of them are torrenting it, because no-one even makes it available.

Now, can I get Archer in the UK? No-one broadcasts it. Right, so I can get it on DVD, yes. Well, only if I'll take S1 and S2. Which I now have. But I've watched S3 and S4 on some Chinese flash sites, because I simply have no legal way to watch them in the UK. £12 for the S2 Blu Ray. No problemo. Ask me £12-15 for S3 or S4 and I'll click the "Buy Now" button. But you don't even give me a way to stuff fivers in your pockets.



My wife and I are huge Terry Pratchett fans. Every time Sir Terry produces a Discworld novel we buy it off the Amazon.UK site so that we can get the English edition. Can you just do the same for content from American? Doesn't Target ship anywhere in the world?


And yes there are differences between the English and the American books. They spell "color" wrong!
 
2013-04-26 01:28:50 PM
They'll learn eventually.  They still think creating a sort of pseudo scarcity model will give them the most money, which is absurd when talking about digital content.  When your supply is basically infinite and the costs of giving the product to people is miniscule you can practically give it away and at the end of the day still recreate the Scrooge McDuck swimming in gold scene of Duck Tails.  Once they realize this we'll have extremely cheap and readily available content without having to wait months for a season's conclusion.

I'm pretty sure Netflix releases entire seasons worth of episodes all in one go and if it's the same with Arrested Development I can see it bringing a lot of good attention to the model.
 
2013-04-26 01:29:49 PM

impaler: Teiritzamna: ha-ha-guy: Now you're just playing the idiot. Most people with an IQ above a radish can read the implied context of "had to pirate due to lack of availability via digital distribution channels, unlike the vast majority of other current shows". If you can't, I feel sorry for you.

Translation: i have decided that i want a thing but i do not like the price point/distribution model that it is offered for.  Thus instead of doing without - which heaven forfend i could not possibly do for some reason -  I shall obtain it without paying.  I shall also indicate that this decision to obtain something that i wanted in an extra legal fashion was somehow someone else's fault.  Because damn it i have a right to watch that show the way i want to - its in the constitution or somethin'.

The RIAA and MPAA aren't going to fark you.


Neither is a fat bald author.
 
2013-04-26 01:30:36 PM

Brittabot: I refuse to pay close to $25 a month for a movie package just so I can watch one channel one hour a week.

That said, I'd be more than willing to pay per episode or per season if I could download the show the same night it plays on television.

Since I can't do that, my only other option is to use less than legal means to get the show.

/Canadian


HA!!! Only $25 a month? Even in Canadian dollars that's a bargain compared to the norm in the States, where we have to subscribe to a digital HD package (upper tier, not just basic cable) before we can add HBO for $15 - $20 per month. And that's not even considering the fact that they charge you a monthly lease on your cable box of about $10, and a fee for HD access that also comes out to around $10.

And then, on top of that, a lot of cable providers try to block HBO Go access, even if you subscribe.

Comcast are bastards. Their pricing is the worst. Their requirements for getting premium channels are the most draconian. Their monthly lease fees are damn near unethical.

Charter is, so far, the best I've dealt with; Better pricing, free equipment, less restrictions and prerequisites.

But no matter who the cable company is, they're screwing Americans hard.
 
2013-04-26 01:30:52 PM

impaler: The RIAA and MPAA aren't going to fark you.


Cute.

The trick is, I don't particularly care if people pirate things, its the ridiculous narrative that pops up on these threads that i find so farking tedious.  The one where people who obtaining things without paying for them cast themselves as the victims.  "oh if only [media company] offered what i wanted on exatcly the terms i wanted!  But they don't, so i was forced to obtain it without paying"  the only thing more delusional is . . . oh wait, here it is:

ha-ha-guy: I'm just the invisible hand of the market


See, the thing he is failing to recognize is that there are two actions happening.  he is not buying the show.  This is in fact part of the market, and sends a signal that there is something about it he does not like.  Being vocal about the fact that HBO's distribution system is not to your liking, and not buying, is how the market is supposed to work.  But note that at no point does "and thus i shall obtain it without paying" send a market helpful message.  Not buying it does, sure, but that second part actually gums up the works.  It sends a mixed signal at best, or - more likely - no direct signal at all.  Thus, our laughing friend has built a narrative where his lack of buying something is the equivalent to getting something without paying for it, and he gets the smug satisfaction of arguing that it is all the big bad stupid media company's fault. 

On the other hand, this guy:

penguinfark: I'm glad you understand. Except for the blaming sometime else part. I don't. I download it because I enjoy it and don't want to pay for it (although I am considering buying the blu rays). I really don't give a shiat what other people think about it.


This guy i am ok with, because he is at least honest enough to say - 'nah, fark it, i just dont wanna pay for it"

so in short: way to go penquinfark for actual honesty!
 
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