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(Yahoo)   Karl Rove praise president Bush saying "he got the big things right". Needing to Invade Iraq to secure Saddam's WMD's and keeping the banking system fom total collapse were apparently fiddlin' small details and minor trivia   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2013-04-26 11:14:28 AM  
Yeah, and Romney won the election.

Rove is a living cautionary tale of "fools and their money."
 
2013-04-26 11:27:44 AM  
Subby, the bank thing was a big thing he got right. Sort of.

They could have put in a lot more over-site and the like, but that's socialism apparently.
 
2013-04-26 11:36:14 AM  

impaler: Subby, the bank thing was a big thing he got right. Sort of.

They could have put in a lot more over-site and the like, but that's socialism apparently.


This.  I don't know why the consider investment contracts understood by all parties as socialism.

The capitalist banks in Canada were very grateful for the regulations there during the recession.  Sound rules which prevented them from their own greedy stupid mistakes was fine by them.
 
2013-04-26 11:37:41 AM  
Bush got one thing right: His nickname for Karl Rove is "Turd blossom".
 
2013-04-26 11:45:26 AM  
Obama got more things right in his first 100 days than Dubya got in his two first terms.
 
2013-04-26 11:51:23 AM  
New York City called, they want their towers back.
 
2013-04-26 11:52:38 AM  
2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
2. Theodore Roosevelt (R)
3. Abraham Lincoln (R)
4. George Washington (No party affiliation)
5. Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
6. James Madison (D-R)
7. James Monroe (D-R)
8. Woodrow Wilson (D)
9. Harry S. Truman (D)
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
11. John F. Kennedy (D)
12. James K. Polk (D)
13. Bill Clinton (D)
14. Andrew Jackson (D)
15. Barack Obama (D)
16. Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
17. John Adams (Federalist)
18. Ronald Reagan (R)
19. John Quincy Adams (D-R)
20. Grover Cleveland (D)
21. William McKinley (R)
22. George H.W. Bush (R)
23. Martin Van Buren (D)
24. William Howard Taft (R)
25. Chester A. Arthur (R)
26. Ulysses S. Grant (R)
27. James A. Garfield (R)
28. Gerald R. Ford (R)
29. Calvin Coolidge (R)
30. Richard M. Nixon (R)
31. Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
32. Jimmy Carter (D)
33. Zachary Taylor (Whig)
34. Benjamin Harrison (R)
35. William Henry Harrison (Whig)
36. Herbert Hoover (R)
37. John Tyler (Whig)
38. Millard Fillmore (Whig)
39. George W. Bush (R)
40. Franklin Pierce (D)
41. Warren G. Harding (R)
42. James Buchanan (D)
43. Andrew Johnson (D)

Suck a cock, Dubya.
 
2013-04-26 11:52:38 AM  
loving the left's conniption fit because of the dubya revival... been a rough week for you guys, keep shaking those angry little fists
 
2013-04-26 11:52:41 AM  
Then there were the big palettes of US currency that were sent over to Iraq and promptly disappeared. Those were big, and W didn't personally lose them, so that's a win right there.
 
2013-04-26 11:53:21 AM  

the_dude_abides: loving the left's conniption fit because of the dubya revival... been a rough week for you guys, keep shaking those angry little fists


Morons have short memories.  Trolls have short penises. News at 11.
 
2013-04-26 11:53:50 AM  
Karl Rove

should be in prison.
 
2013-04-26 11:54:30 AM  
The balls on this guy...
 
2013-04-26 11:54:41 AM  
loving the right's ill-conceived and hasty dubya revival...when their two remaining brain cells finally get to rubbing together they might realize they're about 20 years too early to float this particular turd.
 
2013-04-26 11:54:50 AM  
I live in north Jersey.  I get to drive past memorial after memorial put up after Bush "kept us safe".

/Thanks for nothing you piece of s**t.
 
2013-04-26 11:56:28 AM  
Let's make a list of the actual things Bush got right:

1) Helping people in Africa
2) Expanding Medicare (half credit since it was totally unfunded)

So, 1.5 things.
 
2013-04-26 11:57:01 AM  

DamnYankees: Let's make a list of the actual things Bush got right:

1) Helping people in Africa
2) Expanding Medicare (half credit since it was totally unfunded)

So, 1.5 things.


0.5 credit on Africa too.  That bag of shiat wouldn't let health educators talk about rubbers.
 
2013-04-26 11:57:07 AM  
I'm assuming that the "big things" were making sure everyone got paid.
 
2013-04-26 11:57:35 AM  

coeyagi: 2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
2. Theodore Roosevelt (R)
3. Abraham Lincoln (R)
4. George Washington (No party affiliation)
5. Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
6. James Madison (D-R)
7. James Monroe (D-R)
8. Woodrow Wilson (D)
9. Harry S. Truman (D)
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
11. John F. Kennedy (D)
12. James K. Polk (D)
13. Bill Clinton (D)
14. Andrew Jackson (D)
15. Barack Obama (D)
16. Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
17. John Adams (Federalist)
18. Ronald Reagan (R)
19. John Quincy Adams (D-R)
20. Grover Cleveland (D)
21. William McKinley (R)
22. George H.W. Bush (R)
23. Martin Van Buren (D)
24. William Howard Taft (R)
25. Chester A. Arthur (R)
26. Ulysses S. Grant (R)
27. James A. Garfield (R)
28. Gerald R. Ford (R)
29. Calvin Coolidge (R)
30. Richard M. Nixon (R)
31. Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
32. Jimmy Carter (D)
33. Zachary Taylor (Whig)
34. Benjamin Harrison (R)
35. William Henry Harrison (Whig)
36. Herbert Hoover (R)
37. John Tyler (Whig)
38. Millard Fillmore (Whig)
39. George W. Bush (R)
40. Franklin Pierce (D)
41. Warren G. Harding (R)
42. James Buchanan (D)
43. Andrew Johnson (D)

Suck a cock, Dubya.


Herbert Hoover gets a bad rap. His half-assed response to economic collapse wasn't much different than Obama's.
 
2013-04-26 11:58:17 AM  

the_dude_abides: loving the left's conniption fit because of the dubya revival... been a rough week for you guys, keep shaking those angry little fists


Pointing out total BS ≠ Conniption Fit

/not sure why making people angry is the hallmark of Republican success anyway
 
2013-04-26 11:59:23 AM  
I'm sorry, I'm still laughing my ass off that this man's name is on anything that contains a library.

/ Kind of like a Sarah Palin wildlife preserve
// Or an airport named after Reaga...wait.
 
2013-04-26 12:02:35 PM  
GWB got Iraq really wrong. In retrospec, he and his administration may have actually believed their own bullshiat. But that does not excuse their actions.

I'm OK that he bailed out the banks, but he forgot to add conditions to the bailout, particularly annual bonuses using taxpayer money.

I'll defer on other hits and errors for today.
 
2013-04-26 12:03:22 PM  

Wendy's Chili: coeyagi: 2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
2. Theodore Roosevelt (R)
3. Abraham Lincoln (R)
4. George Washington (No party affiliation)
5. Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
6. James Madison (D-R)
7. James Monroe (D-R)
8. Woodrow Wilson (D)
9. Harry S. Truman (D)
10. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
11. John F. Kennedy (D)
12. James K. Polk (D)
13. Bill Clinton (D)
14. Andrew Jackson (D)
15. Barack Obama (D)
16. Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
17. John Adams (Federalist)
18. Ronald Reagan (R)
19. John Quincy Adams (D-R)
20. Grover Cleveland (D)
21. William McKinley (R)
22. George H.W. Bush (R)
23. Martin Van Buren (D)
24. William Howard Taft (R)
25. Chester A. Arthur (R)
26. Ulysses S. Grant (R)
27. James A. Garfield (R)
28. Gerald R. Ford (R)
29. Calvin Coolidge (R)
30. Richard M. Nixon (R)
31. Rutherford B. Hayes (R)
32. Jimmy Carter (D)
33. Zachary Taylor (Whig)
34. Benjamin Harrison (R)
35. William Henry Harrison (Whig)
36. Herbert Hoover (R)
37. John Tyler (Whig)
38. Millard Fillmore (Whig)
39. George W. Bush (R)
40. Franklin Pierce (D)
41. Warren G. Harding (R)
42. James Buchanan (D)
43. Andrew Johnson (D)

Suck a cock, Dubya.

Herbert Hoover gets a bad rap. His half-assed response to economic collapse wasn't much different than Obama's.


You mean not doing a full stimulus because of congress?  Ah, that's right, when sh*t can't get done because of dickhead legislators, let's wish for a dictator!
 
2013-04-26 12:03:23 PM  
Heck of a job.
 
2013-04-26 12:03:31 PM  
Bush got plenty of stuff right.  He increased the federal government's ability to ignore your rights (and with popular support too), he made sure his cronies/taskmasters/handholders got richly rewarded, and he showed everyone he was more of a man than his father.
 
2013-04-26 12:04:56 PM  

coeyagi: Suck a cock, Dubya.


I would have put Dwight higher on that list. And I think it's way too early to put O at 15. His second term isn't even up yet, and frankly I have a LOT of beef with his policies. But still, good list.
 
2013-04-26 12:05:14 PM  
www.iancfriedman.com
 
2013-04-26 12:05:38 PM  
www.pcboe.net


i dunno... those look pretty big to me.
 
2013-04-26 12:06:01 PM  

FlashHarry: [www.pcboe.net image 800x600]


i dunno... those look pretty big to me.


They used to, anyway.
 
2013-04-26 12:09:02 PM  

Wendy's Chili: Herbert Hoover gets a bad rap. His half-assed response to economic collapse wasn't much different than Obama's.


Though, was their response half-assed for different reasons?
 
2013-04-26 12:09:11 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: coeyagi: Suck a cock, Dubya.

I would have put Dwight higher on that list. And I think it's way too early to put O at 15. His second term isn't even up yet, and frankly I have a LOT of beef with his policies. But still, good list.


Yeah, I would leave him off the list until at least his presidency is done.  But Obamacare is his legacy so how that goes, too goes his ranking.
 
2013-04-26 12:09:15 PM  

AirForceVet: GWB got Iraq really wrong. In retrospec, he and his administration may have actually believed their own bullshiat. But that does not excuse their actions.

I'm OK that he bailed out the banks, but he forgot to add conditions to the bailout, particularly annual bonuses using taxpayer money.

I'll defer on other hits and errors for today.


"he' didn't bail out the banks, he was basically a deer in the headlights while Hank Paulson saved America, and even uber-free market guy Hank knew in his heart  that giving them money without attached strings was a bad idea, but he was worried they wouldn;t take it otherwise, and the commerical paper market (which was the point of this whole exercise) HAD to be unfrozen within a week or you would have seen a REAL economic catastrophe.   Paulson's real problem was that he trusted those guys to do the right thing once he pointed out the problems to them.   He figured since he was saving their collective asses, they OWED him.   He failed to realize that all the major banks are nowaday being run by what are effectively high--functioning sociopaths
 
2013-04-26 12:14:19 PM  
Subby, you missed that the library has a special video in the Decision Points display where if you decide not to invade Iraq a video of George W. Bush plays telling you that you made the wrong choice and have endangered the world by allowing a madman to retain power.

Yes, the library gives you the chance to explore the choices Bush made and come to your own conclusions on if they were the best course of action... but if you make different choices than Bush made you are told you have made the wrong decision.
 
2013-04-26 12:15:21 PM  

Magorn: AirForceVet: GWB got Iraq really wrong. In retrospec, he and his administration may have actually believed their own bullshiat. But that does not excuse their actions.

I'm OK that he bailed out the banks, but he forgot to add conditions to the bailout, particularly annual bonuses using taxpayer money.

I'll defer on other hits and errors for today.

"he' didn't bail out the banks, he was basically a deer in the headlights while Hank Paulson saved America, and even uber-free market guy Hank knew in his heart  that giving them money without attached strings was a bad idea, but he was worried they wouldn;t take it otherwise, and the commerical paper market (which was the point of this whole exercise) HAD to be unfrozen within a week or you would have seen a REAL economic catastrophe.   Paulson's real problem was that he trusted those guys to do the right thing once he pointed out the problems to them.   He figured since he was saving their collective asses, they OWED him.   He failed to realize that all the major banks are nowaday being run by what are effectively high--functioning sociopaths


Bush's crime wasn't in bailing out the banks... that was an ugly necessity.  His crime was allowing it to happen.  I guess he was too occupied with "big" things elsewhere...
 
2013-04-26 12:17:25 PM  

the_dude_abides: loving the left's conniption fit because of the dubya revival... been a rough week for you guys, keep shaking those angry little fists


Keep imagining those conniption fits. . . .
 
2013-04-26 12:20:05 PM  

coeyagi: 2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

Suck a cock, Dubya.


9 spots behind Nixon.  Ouch
 
2013-04-26 12:25:09 PM  

Magorn: AirForceVet: GWB got Iraq really wrong. In retrospec, he and his administration may have actually believed their own bullshiat. But that does not excuse their actions.

I'm OK that he bailed out the banks, but he forgot to add conditions to the bailout, particularly annual bonuses using taxpayer money.

I'll defer on other hits and errors for today.

"he' didn't bail out the banks, he was basically a deer in the headlights while Hank Paulson saved America, and even uber-free market guy Hank knew in his heart  that giving them money without attached strings was a bad idea, but he was worried they wouldn;t take it otherwise, and the commerical paper market (which was the point of this whole exercise) HAD to be unfrozen within a week or you would have seen a REAL economic catastrophe.   Paulson's real problem was that he trusted those guys to do the right thing once he pointed out the problems to them.   He figured since he was saving their collective asses, they OWED him.   He failed to realize that all the major banks are nowaday being run by what are effectively high--functioning sociopaths


Lets not give Hank too much credit. He was primarily concerned about profits for his friends on Wall Street. He was passing them insider information as the shiat hit the fan.

How Paulson Gave Hedge Funds Advance Word of Fannie Mae Rescue
 
2013-04-26 12:26:25 PM  
No one has said it yet?  Really, no one?

"fom"

Really subby, "fom total collapse" ?

(I kid, I think 3 of my last 5 greenlits have had typos/grammar mistakes)
 
2013-04-26 12:27:11 PM  

coeyagi: DamnYankees: Let's make a list of the actual things Bush got right:

1) Helping people in Africa
2) Expanding Medicare (half credit since it was totally unfunded)

So, 1.5 things.

0.5 credit on Africa too.  That bag of shiat wouldn't let health educators talk about rubbers.


Not only that, but it let The Family invade Uganda with its rampant homophobia.

The only thing he can possibly take full credit for is the Do Not Call Registry.
 
2013-04-26 12:27:17 PM  
One thing Bush got right is nicknaming Rove "Turdblossom".

I would have chosen "Shiathead", "Dickhead", "Asswipe", "Corksoaker", "Anusface", "RectumoftheUniverse", "LordoftheTaint", "Sphincterboy" or any other poorer choices.

Bush hit it out of the ballpark. I guess it takes one to know one.
 
MFK
2013-04-26 12:27:38 PM  

Grungehamster: Subby, you missed that the library has a special video in the Decision Points display where if you decide not to invade Iraq a video of George W. Bush plays telling you that you made the wrong choice and have endangered the world by allowing a madman to retain power.

Yes, the library gives you the chance to explore the choices Bush made and come to your own conclusions on if they were the best course of action... but if you make different choices than Bush made you are told you have made the wrong decision.


This can't really be true, can it?
 
2013-04-26 12:28:59 PM  

coeyagi: 2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

-List-

Suck a cock, Dubya.


I just think it's funny that he's four places behind the guy who only served 32 days in office.
 
2013-04-26 12:30:20 PM  
He lied to get support for invading a sovereign nation (albeit one ruled by an asshole), tanking our economy, enriching his energy and war profiteering buddies, and killing thousands of American troops and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.  What could he possibly do right that could offset that?

"I know this alcoholic, coke-head, Vietnam War deserter who's failed running several businesses... we should put him in charge of the largest economy and the largest military in history.  That's a good idea, right?" said 50,456,002 voters and 5 Supreme Court justices.
 
2013-04-26 12:31:03 PM  
No amount of time will change the fact that George W. Bush is a horrible person, the worst president, and a spoiled jerk propelled through life via nepotism.

So stop trying to make it happen, GOP.  You ain't gonna make fake history for Dubya like you did for Reagan.
 
2013-04-26 12:32:00 PM  

mrshowrules: 9 spots behind Nixon.  Ouch


i'm guessing he will drop further as time passes.
 
2013-04-26 12:38:10 PM  
The two biggest things to have gotten right would have been

1. prevent the 9-11 attacks
2. prevent OBL's escape from Afghanistan into Pakistan along with most of the other Al Qaeda leadership

Regarding point 1, Bush was warned about imminent large terror attacks. The PDB "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within the US" was clear warning. Bush's response to his briefers was "You've covered your asses."

Regarding point 2, a request was made for more US military forces to be flown into southern Afghanistan to cut-off Al Qaeda's retreat into Pakistan. Bush chose instead to use Pakistani forces--which, btw, supported Al Qaeda with equipment and funding--to seal off the retreat. This allowed Bush to use those US troops for Iraq. And allowed OBL to live in comfort a mile or so away from the Pakistani equivalent of West Point.

So, once again Karl Rove is wrong. Bush got both of the biggest things in his administration wrong.

And the returns from Ohio won't change that, Karl. You fat malodorous felon who outed a CIA agent. You should have been tried and convicted for that one act alone.
 
2013-04-26 12:39:28 PM  

FlashHarry: i'm guessing he will drop further as time passes.


"George W. Bush's approval rating just hit a 7-year high"
 
2013-04-26 12:39:37 PM  

coeyagi: 2010 Sienna College Research Poll of 238 Presidential Historians

[deletia]
38. Millard Fillmore (Whig)
39. George W. Bush (R)
40. Franklin Pierce (D)
41. Warren G. Harding (R)
42. James Buchanan (D)
43. Andrew Johnson (D)

Suck a cock, Dubya.


That was 2010.  Now with the torture report out, anybody want to take bets for overtaking Harding?  Harding had Teapot Dome.  W. had plenty of corruption, plus *2* land wars in Asia, devastating attacks on US soil, financial meltdown (Harding had help with the great depression, W. cranked up the debt while pouring gasoline on the great recession: look up his choice for the SEC)

Beating Buchanan and Jackson (not Johnson) would require truther level allegations proven true.
 
2013-04-26 12:41:30 PM  

MFK: Grungehamster: Subby, you missed that the library has a special video in the Decision Points display where if you decide not to invade Iraq a video of George W. Bush plays telling you that you made the wrong choice and have endangered the world by allowing a madman to retain power.

Yes, the library gives you the chance to explore the choices Bush made and come to your own conclusions on if they were the best course of action... but if you make different choices than Bush made you are told you have made the wrong decision.

This can't really be true, can it?


They mentioned it was not a joke on the Daily Show last night, but I didn't see the news article they cited.

Basically, you can watch videos of "advisers" urging your action on any 1 of 4 emergencies (invading Iraq, the surge, Hurricane Katrina, and the financial crisis) and then requires you to pick which of three options you would have chosen in Bush's shoes. Then a video comes up of Bush explaining what his decision was and why it was the right one.

Apparently there is a similar exhibit in the Reagan library where it dings your answers whenever you pick the one Reagan went with as if you've won something.
 
2013-04-26 12:44:59 PM  

whidbey: Karl Rove

should be in prison.


What does it say about the GOP when it won't repudiate a guy who outed an undercover CIA employee? What does this guy have to do to get the party to reject him? Spike a baby on a pitch fork on the steps of the Capitol?

The GOP holds onto its whores too hard.
 
2013-04-26 12:46:46 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: whidbey: Karl Rove

should be in prison.

What does it say about the GOP when it won't repudiate a guy who outed an undercover CIA employee? What does this guy have to do to get the party to reject him? Spike a baby on a pitch fork on the steps of the Capitol?

The GOP holds onto its whores too hard.


They didn't invite him to their 2012 National Convention so there's that.
 
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