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(Mother Jones)   By Jove, Watson, this Internet is good for something after all   (motherjones.com) divider line 13
    More: Interesting, Erik Martin, Douglas A-20 Havoc, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Wichita State University, Sunil Tripathi, Boylston Street, Boston Police, Abraham Shakespeare  
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11410 clicks; posted to Main » on 26 Apr 2013 at 12:37 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-04-26 11:08:14 AM
4 votes:
Yeah, the internet sure is a whiz at solving crimes and finding people...

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2013-04-26 01:22:40 PM
3 votes:

LasersHurt: FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, the internet sure is a whiz at solving crimes and finding people...

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That seems like a foolish thing to post.

I mean I get your point, but what, "wrong once, wrong forever"?


Yeah, the internet has never caused some random persons life to be turned upside down by convicting them of something. Except that one time.
2013-04-26 01:21:40 PM
2 votes:

buckler: AGremlin: Yay.....vigilantism!!!!

No more so than calling Crimeline with a tip or lead. They just try to develop those tips and leads from the ground up, based on available or deduced information.


That's the difference.  "Calling in with a tip or lead" versus reddit's "do the entire thing ourselves, leading to massively incorrect speculation-based conclusions".

from TFA:

This is, at least in theory, already the case at Reddit. The site's rules note that "Witch-hunts and the posting of personal information are forbidden"-something Martin drew attention to in his written apology. But it wasn't followed after the Boston attacks.

Bad press notwithstanding, Redditors are unfazed by their handling of the Boston bombings.


The reddit staff regrets the mistake, but none of the users do.  As long as they eventually get the correct target, reddit's okay with shotgun accusations that also hit innocent bystanders... and in the case of Boston, they didn't even get the correct target.

Leave the crime fighting to the professionals, jackasses.  You are not, in fact, Scooby and Shaggy.
2013-04-26 06:26:31 PM
1 votes:

LasersHurt: UnspokenVoice: LasersHurt: UnspokenVoice: When you're wrong 99% of the time, yeah, I think it is okay to completely discount any opinions in the future. They were wrong, over and over again, and show no remorse for any trouble they caused. Screw 'em. Ignore them in the future as enough is enough.

Show your work, 99%? I'm sure you have data for this.

Also, who is "they"? Is there a specific internet group you're referring to? Are you referring to the entire population of the internet as "they"?

They is the entirety of those who make wild speculations and the number is indeed pulled from my ass (and I figured it was obvious) but probably close enough to the sad real number. The number is probably higher if you count all the mistaken speculations offered online, it is probably closer to the five nines that companies try to achieve for uptime. Either way, the number is drawn straight from my ass to illustrate a point - what percentage would be good enough for you? Any number greater than 0% is unacceptable in my view.

It's good to see that you support wild speculation and accusations that have the power to cause harm though. You're a part of the problem and you admit it. Thank you for your honesty though the world would be a better place without you.

And no, you're free to look, I don't engage in the witch hunts nor make accusations about people committing crimes. I don't even speculate concerning their political or religious views. I wait patiently for the results and admit that I don't know.

A post... FILLED WITH SPECULATION... about how terrible speculation is.

Spectacular.

Plus, specious aspersions!


Speculation with the potential to cause harm is the point. That you can't differentiate is telling. Carry on...
2013-04-26 06:09:59 PM
1 votes:

LasersHurt: UnspokenVoice: When you're wrong 99% of the time, yeah, I think it is okay to completely discount any opinions in the future. They were wrong, over and over again, and show no remorse for any trouble they caused. Screw 'em. Ignore them in the future as enough is enough.

Show your work, 99%? I'm sure you have data for this.

Also, who is "they"? Is there a specific internet group you're referring to? Are you referring to the entire population of the internet as "they"?


They is the entirety of those who make wild speculations and the number is indeed pulled from my ass (and I figured it was obvious) but probably close enough to the sad real number. The number is probably higher if you count all the mistaken speculations offered online, it is probably closer to the five nines that companies try to achieve for uptime. Either way, the number is drawn straight from my ass to illustrate a point - what percentage would be good enough for you? Any number greater than 0% is unacceptable in my view.

It's good to see that you support wild speculation and accusations that have the power to cause harm though. You're a part of the problem and you admit it. Thank you for your honesty though the world would be a better place without you.

And no, you're free to look, I don't engage in the witch hunts nor make accusations about people committing crimes. I don't even speculate concerning their political or religious views. I wait patiently for the results and admit that I don't know.
2013-04-26 04:34:42 PM
1 votes:

BafflerMeal: Basically all of the inherent flaws with a message board that allows up voting, down voting, and reputation scores are present in this.

Crowd sourcing in this fashion defaults to the loudest and toughest accounts, groups prevailing.  Not the most accurate.


So farking much this.  What the self important CHILDREN of reddit (and here too) don't seem to realize is that; everyone says it =/= truth.

Frankly, in an age where the vast majority of reddit can't accurately define the word "evidence", and where those same people don't understand the difference between causation and correlation, I don't really want to rely on them or any similar group to investigate anything.

So long as law enforcement takes these places and the information they bring with a grain of salt, I'm fine.  At any point where reddit or Anon or whoever is taking material to the police which is then being used in court... that's scary.

Also, seriously people, do you know what the demographics are for reddit users?  8/10 high school.  1/10 working professionals under 35.  1/10 random demo.  We are talking about 90% children and IT help desk.  Do you really want these people investigating... anything?
2013-04-26 02:25:51 PM
1 votes:
Thesis: The Internet is good for solving crimes.
Support: A couple anecdotes on how the Internet helped to solve a tiny fraction of the cases.
2013-04-26 01:18:08 PM
1 votes:
Well it did make my penis larger, told me the truth about Obama, and I inherited a large sum of money from a Nigerian prince.
2013-04-26 01:15:20 PM
1 votes:
Internet has been fine helping with carnal needs.
2013-04-26 12:45:14 PM
1 votes:
Basically all of the inherent flaws with a message board that allows up voting, down voting, and reputation scores are present in this.

Crowd sourcing in this fashion defaults to the loudest and toughest accounts, groups prevailing.  Not the most accurate.
2013-04-26 12:45:11 PM
1 votes:
Does subby know about porn?

Cause the internets have porn, too... Which is nice.
2013-04-26 12:30:09 PM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Yeah, the internet sure is a whiz at solving crimes and finding people...

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That seems like a foolish thing to post.

I mean I get your point, but what, "wrong once, wrong forever"?
2013-04-26 11:22:45 AM
1 votes:
If the Internet becomes judge, jury and executioner, the criminal sentences of the future will include unsolicited pizza delivery.
 
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