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2013-04-26 11:17:34 AM
By Mona Charen

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When did Yahoo become World Net Daily?
 
2013-04-26 11:19:41 AM
The definition of a liberal is now anyone who speculates on criminal motives.
 
2013-04-26 11:29:25 AM
Dear Mona:

To date, no one has gone around  beating the shiat out of random white people when some Right Winger bombs a building.  The same, sadly, cannot be said for persons of possible Arab descent.  Put your Klan hood back on and go back to writing for The Blaze.
 
2013-04-26 11:29:47 AM
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2013-04-26 11:38:30 AM
Anencephaly is a serious birth defect in which a baby is born without parts of the brain and skull. It is a type of neural tube defect (NTD). These are birth defects that happen during the first month of pregnancy, usually before a woman knows she is pregnant. As the neural tube forms and closes, it helps form the baby's brain and skull (upper part of the neural tube), spinal cord, and back bones (lower part of the neural tube).
Anencephaly happens if the upper part of the neural tube does not close all the way. This often results in a baby being born without the front part of the brain (forebrain) and the thinking and coordinating part of the brain (cerebrum). The remaining parts of the brain are often not covered by bone or skin.
Almost all babies born with anencephaly will die shortly after birth. CDC estimates that each year, about 1 in every 4,859 babies in the United States will be born with anencephaly.


I thought this was always fatal with extremely rare exceptions living 3 years max? How did this one live so long?
 
2013-04-26 11:40:12 AM
There is a tendency among many on the left to temper their disgust and indignation at political violence (i.e. terror) if the terrorist is from the "correct" group.

Wait, what?

People on the left are not disgusted enough at terrorism if brown people do it therefore *they* are the ones obsessed with race?

[wtfamireading?]

The hatred that Islamism preaches, lauds and inspires is a nuisance, liberals may concede. But the hatred in the heart of "white America" is the greater danger.

Are domestic terrorists a greater danger than foreign ones?

Well, they don't have to book any long flights...
 
2013-04-26 11:45:20 AM
Oh for fark's sake.

We don't sympathize with Muslim extremists.  We don't secretly hope that terrorists turn out to be crazy right wingers.  We simply have this crazy notion that we should allow the investigation to proceed and identify a suspect instead of falsely accusing 17 year old Moroccan track stars of being terrorists or demanding that all Muslims be rounded up and put into camps.  There's a phrase that describes that.  It's called due process.  Republicans used to understand what that meant.
 
2013-04-26 11:51:22 AM

Mentat: We don't secretly hope that terrorists turn out to be crazy right wingers.


I do. But that's because American idiots harass or beat up felafel vendors and Sikhs because of what people who look like them have done.
 
2013-04-26 11:55:31 AM
Nice masturdebation there, Slappy.
 
2013-04-26 11:58:01 AM
Libtards suck.
 
2013-04-26 12:03:07 PM
"We Americans are not confused about the morality of what happened in Birmingham that September morning in 1963, nor during the Jim Crow era in America generally. We do not hesitate to condemn utterly the behavior and the beliefs of the Ku Klux Klan (the perpetrators of this bombing and others) and their white supremacist fellow travelers. We do not worry that reviling white supremacists and their grotesque deeds will somehow taint all white people.

"But when it comes to other groups and other motives for the same kind of terrorism - we lose our moral focus."

Contemplate for a moment the blind stupidity needed to write this.
 
2013-04-26 12:08:04 PM
WTF? People paid money for someone to write this crap?
 
2013-04-26 12:08:37 PM
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This is maybe why we shouldn't leap to conclusions on grounds of nation of origin, or faith.

We, as a nation failed our fellow citizens with the Internment. I had family in those camps. They lost everything, when their neighbors swooped in and stripped their businesses, stripped their property, and all the while that their sons were dying in Europe, discovering that while they sat in camps because of their heritage, that their sons were freeing folks who were set up in similar camps, for their own heritage.

We've tried this approach. It is not about "white" or "brown" or "Arab" or "Muslim" or "Christian."

It is about living up to the ideals of this nation, and not giving up on that, because things are tough. It is about having some tiny shred of faith in our nation, and the ideals that it was founded upon, and actually delivering on it.

I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it, and I even put it in a handy graphic so that it might sink in:

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The path that folks seem bound and determined to take for a little "safety" is flawed. We've done it before. It doesn't go anywhere good. The blanket condemnations for entire peoples and faiths, conflating the actions for a few for the whole, does us no good. Any more than blaming all Christians for firebombing clinics. Any more than blaming all Catholics for the actions of the IRA. It is time we learned from the mistakes of the past, because at this point, we are looking at fulfilling Santayans' aphorism about those who are doomed to repeat them...
 
2013-04-26 12:09:40 PM
FTA: Attorney General Eric Holder, asked whether three attacks on the United States (the underwear bomber, the Times Square bomber and Maj. Nidal Hassan) could be attributed to "Islamic" radicalism, refused to say so. Asked repeatedly whether religious motives played a role, Holder would say only, "there are a variety of reasons why people have taken these actions." Janet Napolitano has been quick to dismiss terror attempts as "one offs."

Later FTA: Beinert and other liberals imagine that the U.S. is a cauldron of teeming racism with the lid barely kept down.

So, am to understand that liberals, by refusing to generalize about all Muslims and by saying that terrorists are the exception rather than the rule, are really saying that all of the U.S. is a cauldron of teeming racism?

I'm a bit confused by this article.
 
2013-04-26 12:13:24 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Mentat: We don't secretly hope that terrorists turn out to be crazy right wingers.

I do. But that's because American idiots harass or beat up felafel vendors and Sikhs because of what people who look like them have done.


I posted this in another thread, but it seems more appropriate here:

The reason people were saying "I hope the bombers weren't Muslim" isn't because we'd prefer it to have been somebody else, it's because we know that if they are Muslim, it will feed a xenophobia which is already all to prevalent in the world today. Which is much worse for us in the long run than the bombs were*.

*Excepting those who were actual victims of the bombs.

Also, if you can't see the difference with seeing why people have no problem condemning racists as a group, versus condemning "Islamists" (whatever that means) as a whole, you're kind of an idiot.
 
2013-04-26 12:19:07 PM

SphericalTime: So, am to understand that liberals, by refusing to generalize about all Muslims and by saying that terrorists are the exception rather than the rule, are really saying that all of the U.S. is a cauldron of teeming racism?


Anyone who doesn't immediately acknowledge that any terror attack must have been done by Arabs (anyone from Egypt to Pakistan, and now apparently as far north as Russia) Muslims is a racist.  Waiting to investigate the attack or to actually try to determine a motive is racist, because everyone knows it was that damn muslim arabs and you must be trying to protect them because you love arab muslims and hate everyone else.  Even entertaining for a split second that that it might have been done by a non-arab or a non-Muslim means you are racist against (white) Americans and are a traitor to your country.

Hope I cleared that up for you.

/Have relatives who think this way.
 
2013-04-26 12:23:52 PM
hubiestubert: Yeah, but that was so long ago, it's not like anyone today can remember what that was like.

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Oh, really?

Well, you got to be in Star Trek, so we're cool, right?

I'm gay and still don't have the right to marry in most states, face it, the US still has some serious bigotry issues

Dammit George, why do you always have to undermine my arguments like that?
 
2013-04-26 12:24:49 PM
Congrats, Pete King, Yahoo! says you're now a liberal!

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2013-04-26 12:26:18 PM

vernonFL: By Mona Charen

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When did Yahoo become World Net Daily?


Have you never read Yahoo comments? They're half a step above Freeperville. Here's a small sample:

"What about the hatred in the heart of black America? Racism is a two way street folks."

"TOTAL effen NONSENSE Islam is NOT just like other religions; no other faith wants to kill you if you write a bok criticizing its beliefs, no other religion riots over cartoons, no other religion wants to kill you if you choose to leave the faith no other religionhas as its tenet the destruction of all who do not believe as they do. "

"They won't hesitate to make public all the bad things about the KKK, but you will never hear the bad things about the Black Panthers. Wonder why? "

"I wonder why they don't have an article titled The Hatred In The Heart Of Black America? Now days I come across more racist blacks than whites & I live in the south, and none of them have ever been slaves, oppressed, etc.................anger & blame seems to be their favorite line. "
 
2013-04-26 12:27:52 PM
Mona Charen will sssssadly find out how much conservatives "love" her kind when they retake power and begin the pogroms.
 
2013-04-26 12:28:02 PM
Once again I'm so glad that conservatives are here to tell me how I think.
 
2013-04-26 12:30:45 PM
This is sort of a tough one--on one hand, we do indeed have liberals that are basically rooting for any terrorist act to not be someone of muslim origin. At least I'd guess there is--I have no evidence to actually back that up--it's only what I can gleam from hearing from people I know, people on Fark, etc.

We obviously don't want the assumption that all terrorists are muslim either--because that's patently false. That idea, I assume, is what many conservatives would like to believe: "OF COURSE HE'S TURRIST HE'S ISLAMISIST!!".

The answer is, as per farking usual, somewhere in between. Conservative media should really stop acting like they have an actual moral high ground here.
 
2013-04-26 12:32:43 PM

nmrsnr: hubiestubert: Yeah, but that was so long ago, it's not like anyone today can remember what that was like.

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Oh, really?

Well, you got to be in Star Trek, so we're cool, right?

I'm gay and still don't have the right to marry in most states, face it, the US still has some serious bigotry issues

Dammit George, why do you always have to undermine my arguments like that?


The Nihonjin are a crafty, clever people...

In fairness, after the war, what was left of my relatives in the US went back to Japan, and the only ties we have left in this country is myself, because my father married a smart native girl when he was stationed in Okinawa. They gave up on this country, because it cost them all their sons, it cost them the businesses, it cost them their homes, and pretty much everything that the didn't carry into the camps, and much of that was lost. It is a sad chapter in our history, and while a lot of folks forgot about it, those of us with Japanese heritage, yeah, it's still a thing. And something we'd rather not see happen again to anyone else.
 
2013-04-26 12:32:53 PM

Mentat: Oh for fark's sake.

We don't sympathize with Muslim extremists.  We don't secretly hope that terrorists turn out to be crazy right wingers.  We simply have this crazy notion that we should allow the investigation to proceed and identify a suspect instead of falsely accusing 17 year old Moroccan track stars of being terrorists or demanding that all Muslims be rounded up and put into camps.  There's a phrase that describes that.  It's called due process.  Republicans used to understand what that meant.


BS there were tons of people wetting their pants at the chance it was the teatards or some Christian extremists boogieman.  Fortunately those morons and bigots are restricted to the likes of FARK and reddit; unfortunately the kill the Muslim people are in office.
 
2013-04-26 12:33:04 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Anencephaly is a serious birth defect in which a baby is born without parts of the brain and skull. It is a type of neural tube defect (NTD). These are birth defects that happen during the first month of pregnancy, usually before a woman knows she is pregnant. As the neural tube forms and closes, it helps form the baby's brain and skull (upper part of the neural tube), spinal cord, and back bones (lower part of the neural tube).
Anencephaly happens if the upper part of the neural tube does not close all the way. This often results in a baby being born without the front part of the brain (forebrain) and the thinking and coordinating part of the brain (cerebrum). The remaining parts of the brain are often not covered by bone or skin.
Almost all babies born with anencephaly will die shortly after birth. CDC estimates that each year, about 1 in every 4,859 babies in the United States will be born with anencephaly.

I thought this was always fatal with extremely rare exceptions living 3 years max? How did this one live so long?


threadjack: HOLY shiat that's a high number! /threadjack
 
2013-04-26 12:34:34 PM
Regarding his own record of setting bombs that kill and dismember innocent people

The Weather Underground didn't kill anyone.
 
2013-04-26 12:35:57 PM
BibliographyCharen, Mona (2005). Do-Gooders: How Liberals Hurt Those They Claim to Help (and the Rest of Us). Sentinel. Charen, Mona (2003). Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First. Regnery Publishing.

She is Jonah Goldberg with a penis...
 
2013-04-26 12:36:11 PM
Just came to watch the liberals do their continued spin on this.

Spend 3 days hoping that it was a right winger so you can FINALLY feel justified in spewing hate only to find that it's yet another Islamic terrorist event then you had to sit around grumbling for a few days until you finally got your talking points together.

Liberals have become the biggest bunch of fakes and all of this dismissive crap you've been trying to come up with would be nothing but rage and more rage if it actually had been the right winger you so wanted it to be. Think about that long and hard... You're so warped that actual terrorism doesn't outrage you nearly as much as politics you disagree with. You're so warped that you actively sit around trying to come up with reasons for your hate. If you were really "liberals", if you really believed in all that good equality, justice, rights, and all that stuff you constantly insist makes you so morally superior to conservatives than the global march of Islam would outrage you a thousand times more than any Republican.

But no, you're so screwed up that your political ideals have become a sort of quasi-religion where truth and facts don't matter, only the "progressive ideals" matter and when they conflict with reality... Just deny reality. You really have become everything you accuse everyone you hate of being.
 
2013-04-26 12:36:22 PM

TimonC346: This is sort of a tough one--on one hand, we do indeed have liberals that are basically rooting for any terrorist act to not be someone of muslim origin. At least I'd guess there is--I have no evidence to actually back that up--it's only what I can gleam from hearing from people I know, people on Fark, etc.


"This idea that makes no sense must be true, at least I'd guess it is, I mean, I have no evidence to back it up, but I imagine it based on what some people say..."

Really?
 
2013-04-26 12:39:08 PM

vernonFL: By Mona Charen

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When did Yahoo become World Net Daily?


That was my initial reaction.  They've been gradually moving this way for a while.  They started publishing Blaze articles a while ago too.  My guess: Marissa Meyer, hoping to bring Yahoo! back to profitability, took a look a Fox's business model, then looked at the average IQ level of  the comments on Yahoo! news articles.

I'm sure it was an easy decision after that.
 
2013-04-26 12:39:26 PM
TFA: Beinert and other liberals imagine that the U.S. is a cauldron of teeming racism with the lid barely kept down.

Wow, I just got stuffing all over my desk the way she was laying into that strawman.
 
2013-04-26 12:39:30 PM
LMFAO!
Look at the racist liberals going nuts trying to defend their racism.
 
2013-04-26 12:40:06 PM

randomjsa: Liberals have become the biggest bunch of fakes and all of this dismissive crap you've been trying to come up with would be nothing but rage and more rage if it actually had been the right winger you so wanted it to be. Think about that long and hard... You're so warped that actual terrorism doesn't outrage you nearly as much as politics you disagree with. You're so warped that you actively sit around trying to come up with reasons for your hate. If you were really "liberals", if you really believed in all that good equality, justice, rights, and all that stuff you constantly insist makes you so morally superior to conservatives than the global march of Islam would outrage you a thousand times more than any Republican.


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man
 
2013-04-26 12:40:42 PM

jehovahs witness protection: LMFAO!
Look at the racist liberals going nuts trying to defend their racism.


Phoning it in, kind of. Busy this morning?
 
2013-04-26 12:41:02 PM

Mentat: Oh for fark's sake.

We don't sympathize with Muslim extremists.  We don't secretly hope that terrorists turn out to be crazy right wingers.  We simply have this crazy notion that we should allow the investigation to proceed and identify a suspect instead of falsely accusing 17 year old Moroccan track stars of being terrorists or demanding that all Muslims be rounded up and put into camps.  There's a phrase that describes that.  It's called due process.  Republicans used to understand what that meant.

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For that other 10%, there's Manzanar. Get in the tents AZN!
 
2013-04-26 12:41:03 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Look at the racist liberals going nuts trying to defend their racism.


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2013-04-26 12:41:43 PM
Conservatives: Damn dirty Arab Muslins!

Liberals: Actually, this type of attack usually turns out to be domestic radicals

Conservatives: YOU MEAN WHITE PEOPLE! WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH COLOR!?
 
2013-04-26 12:42:43 PM
Subby wins trollin headline YTD
 
2013-04-26 12:42:59 PM
I'll admit I thought it was probably a Teatard (tax day, patriot day, etc) but I wasn't rooting for that. Those of us who aren't sociopaths spent the day rooting for the bombing victims to pull through, not for our personal boogeyman to be validated.
 
2013-04-26 12:43:12 PM

AirForceVet: WTF? People paid money for someone to write this crap?


whats more the author may have been paid twice

once for the article
and once for the slant of the article

(who the 2nd is would be the big question  ie  who benefits by the peasants fighting each other)
 
2013-04-26 12:43:16 PM
Um, no.

We just want people to look in the mirror and not dismiss domestic terrorism as "just another isolated incident".

And any obsession might be with regaining the civil rights we lost in the "War on Terror"
 
2013-04-26 12:43:35 PM
So we will now pretend all of the stories about how the media how the hopes the bomber is white and liberal Chris Matthews' speculation on it being a tea party member? Do we need to scrub the Total Fark threads on the bombing?

What about the attempted time square bombing?  Bloomberg and the libs prayed it was a tea party member. It was not. Much to your chagrine.
 
2013-04-26 12:43:51 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "We Americans are not confused about the morality of what happened in Birmingham that September morning in 1963, nor during the Jim Crow era in America generally. We do not hesitate to condemn utterly the behavior and the beliefs of the Ku Klux Klan (the perpetrators of this bombing and others) and their white supremacist fellow travelers. We do not worry that reviling white supremacists and their grotesque deeds will somehow taint all white people.

"But when it comes to other groups and other motives for the same kind of terrorism - we lose our moral focus."

Contemplate for a moment the blind stupidity needed to write this.


I seem to recall William Buckley (the "thinking man's conservative") blaming to the bombing on a Negro looking to make white people look bad.  I'll have to do a little googling to see if I can dig up the quote. . .
 
2013-04-26 12:44:22 PM
Is it opposite day already?

Ok then.......Great post, jehovahs witness protection!!!
 
2013-04-26 12:44:30 PM

randomjsa: Just came to watch the liberals do their continued spin on this.

Spend 3 days hoping that it was a right winger so you can FINALLY feel justified in spewing hate only to find that it's yet another Islamic terrorist event then you had to sit around grumbling for a few days until you finally got your talking points together.

Liberals have become the biggest bunch of fakes and all of this dismissive crap you've been trying to come up with would be nothing but rage and more rage if it actually had been the right winger you so wanted it to be. Think about that long and hard... You're so warped that actual terrorism doesn't outrage you nearly as much as politics you disagree with. You're so warped that you actively sit around trying to come up with reasons for your hate. If you were really "liberals", if you really believed in all that good equality, justice, rights, and all that stuff you constantly insist makes you so morally superior to conservatives than the global march of Islam would outrage you a thousand times more than any Republican.

But no, you're so screwed up that your political ideals have become a sort of quasi-religion where truth and facts don't matter, only the "progressive ideals" matter and when they conflict with reality... Just deny reality. You really have become everything you accuse everyone you hate of being.


Project much?  I'm sure there were a few actively rooting for some right wing nut to be the terrorist, but there were many more on the right  assuming the terrorist was Muslim.  I'm not thrilled that it actually was a Muslim because it's just going to feed into this Islamophobia in this country, and a lot of innocent Muslims are going to feel the brunt of it.  The outrage I felt for this would be the same regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, or what the hell ever.  The outrage I feel over stupid people in office spouting out stupid opinions pales in comparison.
 
2013-04-26 12:44:33 PM

Nemo's Brother: So we will now pretend all of the stories about how the media how the hopes the bomber is white and liberal Chris Matthews' speculation on it being a tea party member? Do we need to scrub the Total Fark threads on the bombing?

What about the attempted time square bombing?  Bloomberg and the libs prayed it was a tea party member. It was not. Much to your chagrine.


Now, here's a guy who doesn't know the difference between "hoping" and "Speculating."
 
2013-04-26 12:45:03 PM

monoski: Subby wins trollin headline YTD


Sadly, accomplished by quoting directly from TFA.
 
2013-04-26 12:45:16 PM

jehovahs witness protection: LMFAO!
Look at the racist liberals going nuts trying to defend their racism.


Don't mind him, friends. He's still a little sssssore from the anal probe.
 
2013-04-26 12:45:35 PM
If you maintain a stance that racism no longer exists, then no racist policy you purposefully implement can be considered racist.
 
2013-04-26 12:47:20 PM
Oh so now we start caring about racial profiling?
 
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