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(Popular Science)   Sixty years ago today, four nerds made one of the greatest scientific discoveries of all time. This is their story. **doink doink**   (popsci.com) divider line 34
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2013-04-26 08:44:59 AM  
Scientific progress goes *boink*
 
2013-04-26 08:46:02 AM  

Gunny Highway: Scientific progress goes *boink*


I had a comment, but I like yours better.
 
2013-04-26 08:55:17 AM  
www.popsci.com

Maurice H. F. Wilkins was also noted for his unsuccessful research in penis enlargement systems.
 
2013-04-26 09:00:55 AM  
+1
 
2013-04-26 09:09:38 AM  
Rosalind Franklin still left out...
 
2013-04-26 09:18:15 AM  
Can anyone post the article.  Pop Sci geo locks stuff.
 
2013-04-26 09:20:00 AM  
At least she was mentioned this time; unlike all the other articles before.
 
2013-04-26 09:24:12 AM  

pag1107: Rosalind Franklin still left out...


undiscoveredcountryproject.com

THERE ARE FOUR NERDS!

/she is mentioned in the article, and she does deserve a share of the Nobel
 
2013-04-26 09:38:33 AM  

Gunny Highway: Scientific progress goes *boink*


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-04-26 09:43:14 AM  

pag1107: Rosalind Franklin still left out...


No, she wasn't.
 
2013-04-26 09:50:51 AM  
glad rolalind franklin finally getting her due.
 
2013-04-26 09:51:39 AM  
There's a pretty good book out about their story.  It takes some concentration to read though because Watson sort of expects the reader to be able to follow his logical inferences and he never, ever explains the same thing twice.
 
2013-04-26 09:53:00 AM  
/CSB

I was in OKC with my high school science teacher and four friends, we were chosen to go to some symposium.  Well, my teacher was fairly hauwwt and always wore low cut shirt to show her cleavage which made a lot of us want to stand back and do science.  She kept talking about some Dr Watson and how lucky we were in getting to go to see him.  None of us really knew growing up in a town in SE Oklahoma with a graduating class of 88 how important this was.  So me and my friend are running around the building where this is going on, seeing if doors are unlocked doing stupid high school stuff when we go thru a few doors up some stairs down some stairs completely lost and open a door and walk right into a room where Dr Watson and a bunch o the other scientist are and u could here a pen drop. Then they just go back to what they are doing and we walk I like we are suppose to be there and start talking to these brilliant men about this stuff.  My teacher comes looking for us and we here she is and invite her back to chill with us and the scientist and she gets their autographs and stuff and then makes us leave.  She was mad at first then just couldn't believe we made that happen for her.  And that's the story of how I met Dr Watson in OKC just as short time before the OKC bombing and why no doors were locked at that time.
 
2013-04-26 09:54:33 AM  

pag1107: Rosalind Franklin still left out...


Actually, there is a bit in there that Watson says that she deserves the Nobel as well.  That is the first time I have seen that.
 
2013-04-26 10:32:32 AM  

pag1107: Rosalind Franklin still left out...


I'm betting they updated it after getting yelled at by the nerd community.

Exhibit 1) the URL: how-three-nerds-discovered-dna-helix-60-years-ago-today
 
2013-04-26 10:33:45 AM  
 
2013-04-26 10:35:32 AM  
Step 1:
Steal your work from a woman
Step 2:
Nobel Prize!
 
2013-04-26 11:01:21 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-26 11:22:21 AM  

Begoggle: Step 1:
Steal your work from a woman
Step 2:
Nobel Prize!


It was that simple?
 
2013-04-26 11:30:35 AM  
cdn0.hark.com
Picture of the happy couple.
 
2013-04-26 01:02:20 PM  
They stole the vast majority of their ideas from Franklin (including the feedback she gave them on why their internal phosphate backbone was incorrect), and scooped her with minimal or negligible credit, depending on how you view it. It's really that simple. I have known several people who knew them more than just in passing. Watson and Crick were farking assholes of the highest order. No one is surprised they stooped to the level they did to get their paper out first. They would have never gotten the paper out without Franklin. Decades later, they throw her a bone and say that she would have shared in the prize. If they barely gave her credit in the paper, they certainly would never have shared a thing with her.
 
2013-04-26 01:03:25 PM  
I was looking to read the rest of the article from the magazine, and as I was scrolling, came across this awesome outboard motor advertisement somewhere around page 180:

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Oh, and also, I always heard it as "Watson and Crick" discovered DNA. I didn't know there was even a THIRD person, much less a fourth.

From what I can tell FTFA, Wilkins and Franklin were English physicists who invented the x-ray photography process that made it possible to analyze the genetic structure of the molecules, while Watson and Crick were an American biologist and English physicist, respectively, who did the mathematical analysis necessary to come up with the double-helix model. They gave the Nobel to everybody but the girl, who died in 1958, five years before the prizes were awarded.
 
2013-04-26 01:08:35 PM  

phyrkrakr: They gave the Nobel to everybody but the girl, who died in 1958, five years before the prizes were awarded.


No such thing as a posthumous Nobel Prize. The basic problem is that they barely acknowledged her existence after they published.
 
2013-04-26 01:09:29 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: They stole the vast majority of their ideas from Franklin (including the feedback she gave them on why their internal phosphate backbone was incorrect), and scooped her with minimal or negligible credit, depending on how you view it. It's really that simple. I have known several people who knew them more than just in passing. Watson and Crick were farking assholes of the highest order. No one is surprised they stooped to the level they did to get their paper out first. They would have never gotten the paper out without Franklin. Decades later, they throw her a bone and say that she would have shared in the prize. If they barely gave her credit in the paper, they certainly would never have shared a thing with her.


History exposed them. Any good article on the subject would point this out.

Damn thieves.  Thanks for all the info everyone.
 
2013-04-26 02:06:51 PM  
drunkenzombie.com
 
2013-04-26 02:40:07 PM  
I remember hearing a story of how they took acid and had a vision on what the structure would look like before they saw the actual structure. One of them did an interview where he clarified this as before they claimed they were all drunk when they came up with it.
But now I guess it is all bull.
 
2013-04-26 03:05:12 PM  

pag1107: Rosalind Franklin still left out...


2nd that......shame shame......
 
2013-04-26 03:19:17 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: The basic problem is that they barely acknowledged her existence after they published.


Gotcha. That's a total dick move.
 
2013-04-26 04:12:39 PM  

emotion_lotion: I remember hearing a story of how they took acid and had a vision on what the structure would look like before they saw the actual structure. One of them did an interview where he clarified this as before they claimed they were all drunk when they came up with it.
But now I guess it is all bull.


Actually, it came to them in the same dream where they discovered the structure of Anthrax Leprosy Mu.

/obscure?
 
2013-04-26 04:12:48 PM  
I don't wanna say it was LSD, but...

// aw, dammit, emotion_lotion beat me to it
 
2013-04-26 05:41:50 PM  

you have pee hands: There's a pretty good book out about their story.  It takes some concentration to read though because Watson sort of expects the reader to be able to follow his logical inferences and he never, ever explains the same thing twice.


Much like JolobinSmokin's post below yours.
 
2013-04-26 08:34:04 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: They stole the vast majority of their ideas from Franklin (including the feedback she gave them on why their internal phosphate backbone was incorrect), and scooped her with minimal or negligible credit, depending on how you view it. It's really that simple. I have known several people who knew them more than just in passing. Watson and Crick were farking assholes of the highest order. No one is surprised they stooped to the level they did to get their paper out first. They would have never gotten the paper out without Franklin. Decades later, they throw her a bone and say that she would have shared in the prize. If they barely gave her credit in the paper, they certainly would never have shared a thing with her.


Did she run crying to Nicola Tesla about it?
 
2013-04-26 08:48:43 PM  

Begoggle: Step 1:
Steal your work from a woman
Step 2:
Nobel Prize!


They stole the experimental work from Dr. Franklin.   However, Watson and Crick really were the ones that did the theoretical analysis to explain the date obtained by Franklin as well as other groups.

So yes, the boys really did work worthy of a Nobel prize.   Of course so did Franklin, but Nobel prize rules can only be given to living people (unless death comes after the announcement and prior to the ceremony).
 
2013-04-26 11:18:40 PM  

Gunny Highway: Begoggle: Step 1:
Steal your work from a woman
Step 2:
Nobel Prize!

It was that simple?


More like:
Step 1: Do ground breaking research
Step 2: Don't die
Step 3: Nobel Prize

She kinda messed up Step 2, so she didn't move on to step 3.
 
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