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2013-04-26 08:42:48 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Wow, that sure was a fast recovery from a bullet to the neck.

Is that normal, or was there even more media bullshiat out there we'll spend years debunking?


Are we sure it was a bullet, and not, say, a piece of the flashbang the cops chucked in the boat?

Just curious.
 
2013-04-26 08:42:52 AM
Was he was called for Jury duty?

www.investors.com
 
2013-04-26 08:43:01 AM

Great_Milenko: Popcorn Johnny: Let the rape commence!

In before the "prison rape isn't funny" comments.

Or, in before the "prison rape" is largely an urban myth comments?


Well, you certainly aren't going to get in before a bunch of suburban white boys posting from their mommy's basements about what goes on in a place they've never been, based on "statistics" tabulated by sob-sister "inmate's rights" groups.
Yeah, there's rape in prison. There's also plenty of rape outside of prison. It just isn't the everyday event some would have you believe.
But then - people believe what they want to believe, and there's no changing that.
/My contribution to this "discussion" - over. Y'all keep fapping to your fantasy.
 
2013-04-26 08:43:03 AM

WhoopAssWayne: dittybopper: Hey, I went to Fort Devens for dittybopper school, back when the USAISD was there (United States Army Intelligence School, Fort Devens).

Did they succeed or are you just as dumb as ever?


You've got it backwards.  Successful training in military intelligence decreases said intelligence.

/I keed; my sister's MOS at one time was 35G
 
2013-04-26 08:44:38 AM

WhoopAssWayne: dittybopper: Hey, I went to Fort Devens for dittybopper school, back when the USAISD was there (United States Army Intelligence School, Fort Devens).

Did they succeed or are you just as dumb as ever?


Hell, I'm dumb as ever.  But I've learned enough over the years to know that I'm dumb, and to recognize that most people are just as dumb as I, if not more so.  The difference is that I acknowledge it, while most people are confident in the face of their own ignorance.

But I didn't learn that at Fort Devens, which was a school for signals intelligence, or SIGINT.   Mostly, I just learned Morse code, how to operate a KSR "mill" and an R-390 receiver (both of which were long obsolete), and some classified stuff I can't talk about.

But the majority of it was just learning Morse, and getting up to 20 WPM on random code groups, with a 97% accuracy rate.  That's what you needed to pass.  And you wanted to pass, because if you didn't, the Army could put you in whatever specialty they needed you in.  Rarely does that sort of thing work out for the better.
 
2013-04-26 08:44:46 AM
The article deliberately mentions that his heart monitor didn't make a blip when they told him about the death penalty. That's a sly way of calling him heartless. Fine journalism there, Lou.
 
2013-04-26 08:45:28 AM
farkin white guys. so typical, you know?
 
2013-04-26 08:45:49 AM

dyfsunctional: The article deliberately mentions that his heart monitor didn't make a blip when they told him about the death penalty. That's a sly way of calling him heartless. Fine journalism there, Lou.


I assume you make peace with impending death when you're bleeding out in a boat in a driveway.
 
2013-04-26 08:46:26 AM

dittybopper: Hey, I went to Fort Devens for dittybopper school, back when the USAISD was there (United States Army Intelligence School, Fort Devens).

I wonder if he's being held in the barracks I used to live in?

(runs and checks Google Earth).

Nope.  The barracks I was in are right next to the "Fort Devens Museum", which used to be our old mess hall.   The blatantly obvious prison facility is about 1,600 yards due south of there.


Heh, my Dad processed through Devens back in the 50's...he and his squad got housed in barracks that had been condemned as unsafe to hold prisoners from WWII...

Btw, the other thread closed out, I was gonna say, your arrowheads looked pretty good.
A buddy used to know an anthropologist down in RI who knapped arrowheads out of ceramics like old TV magnets, etc...razor sharp.
 
2013-04-26 08:47:18 AM

willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?


People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.
 
2013-04-26 08:48:15 AM
I heard he posted bail.
 
2013-04-26 08:48:40 AM

cheyanne9: Was he was called for Jury duty?

[www.investors.com image 800x562]


Ramirez - lol.
 
2013-04-26 08:51:18 AM
Whoa, how did that California guy get released.
 
2013-04-26 08:52:22 AM

tommyl66: Theaetetus: tuxq: A through-and-through bullet wound is treated the same as blunt force trauma, it's not that serious.

If it hits an organ or major artery, it's obviously more serious, but in this case, it did not.

He stuck a .223 rifle in his mouth and tried to kill himself. Little did he know, that only works if it goes into the brain. .223 isn't exactly the largest bullet (size can compensate for bad aim to some degree)

He then used a disintegrator ray to get rid of the .223 rifle before police could arrive to take him into custody. Investigators are still attempting to determine how he managed to get rid of all traces of the disintegrator ray.

Obviously the disintegrator ray was made from frozen blood, so it melted by the time they got there. Duh.


Most disintegrator rays will overload and self disintegrate if you short the j-channel resistor array with something like 00 steel wool.
 
2013-04-26 08:52:47 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Wow, that sure was a fast recovery from a bullet to the neck.

Is that normal, or was there even more media bullshiat out there we'll spend years debunking?


Also, it occurs to me, if he DID shoot himself in the neck, there's a chance a handgun (not a rifle, of course) could still be IN the boat, if the kid dropped it.

I've got a big-ass screwdriver in the bilge of my 25 footer where I dropped it a couple years ago...you'd have to cut the hull apart to get it out, or put a big magnet on something like a plumber's snake...
 
2013-04-26 08:53:30 AM
Looks as if our bedside Judge has a long interest in international affairs :
http://www.mad.uscourts.gov/bbc/pdf/BOWLERMarianne.pdf


GovernmentofKuwait,KuwaitCity (1997‐firstUSwomanjudgetospeak in
Kuwait
GovernmentofEgypt(2012)‐presentationonenforcementofforeigncourt
ordersincrossborderfinancialinvestigations,presentationsbefore
the Court of Cassation and CairoUniversity Law School
JudicialInstituteoftheUnitedArabEmiratesatSharjah(2011)‐presentation
on copyright and trademark law

Massachusetts Bar Association
Massachusetts Continuing Legal Education
Massachusetts Federal Bar Association
Open World
Practicing LawInstitute,NYC(Understanding IntellectualProperty License)
UnitedStatesDepartmentofJustice,Washington,D.C. ‐ AttorneyGeneral's
Advocacy Institute
Women's Bar Association
U.S. Embassy, Belgrade, Serbia 2012
In addition, numerous law schools, foreign judges, prosecutors, law
enforcement agents and civic organizations
 
2013-04-26 08:55:23 AM
PunGent:
Heh, my Dad processed through Devens back in the 50's...he and his squad got housed in barracks that had been condemned as unsafe to hold prisoners from WWII...

Yeah, I bet those were the old wooden "T" barracks we used to do some training in (and by the looks of it on GE, have been torn down).

Back in the mid-80's, when I was there, they still seemed in decent enough condition to temporarily house soldiers, so long as you did traditional stuff like keep a fire watch.  Not that I'd want to live there for any length of time, but it would have been OK for a week or so.

As for holding prisoners?  No, they wouldn't have been secure enough.

Btw, the other thread closed out, I was gonna say, your arrowheads looked pretty good.
A buddy used to know an anthropologist down in RI who knapped arrowheads out of ceramics like old TV magnets, etc...razor sharp.


When ever my wife breaks one of our Pfaltzgraff dishes (Yorktowne pattern, if you must know), I scavenge up the bigger pieces to knap with.  Best material for that, though, is either obsidian, or glass:  They knap the easiest, and they make the sharpest edge, much more sharp than any steel blade.

If you want to start, practice with the bottoms of beer bottles.  Cheap and available material, attractive color (green or brown), and it knaps easier than flint, chert, or dacite.  Busted up porcelain from old toilets is supposed to be another good source.

/sorry for the thread jack.
 
2013-04-26 08:56:28 AM

jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.


Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.
 
2013-04-26 08:58:13 AM

jso2897: cheyanne9: Was he was called for Jury duty?

[www.investors.com image 800x562]

Ramirez - lol.


You know who else didn't care for Ramirez?

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-04-26 08:58:29 AM

dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.


I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.
 
2013-04-26 08:59:26 AM

PunGent: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Wow, that sure was a fast recovery from a bullet to the neck.

Is that normal, or was there even more media bullshiat out there we'll spend years debunking?

Also, it occurs to me, if he DID shoot himself in the neck, there's a chance a handgun (not a rifle, of course) could still be IN the boat, if the kid dropped it.

I've got a big-ass screwdriver in the bilge of my 25 footer where I dropped it a couple years ago...you'd have to cut the hull apart to get it out, or put a big magnet on something like a plumber's snake...


I'm sure they've either taken that boat apart, or are still in the process of doing so.  If there was a gun there, they would have found it, whether it was in the bilges or not.
 
2013-04-26 09:00:34 AM

Theaetetus: tuxq: Theaetetus: tuxq: A through-and-through bullet wound is treated the same as blunt force trauma, it's not that serious.

If it hits an organ or major artery, it's obviously more serious, but in this case, it did not.

He stuck a .223 rifle in his mouth and tried to kill himself. Little did he know, that only works if it goes into the brain. .223 isn't exactly the largest bullet (size can compensate for bad aim to some degree)

He then used a disintegrator ray to get rid of the .223 rifle before police could arrive to take him into custody. Investigators are still attempting to determine how he managed to get rid of all traces of the disintegrator ray.

So, if you fail so bad that you can't even kill yourself, would you continue carrying the rifle before finding a resting place to rest/die? I wouldn't bother.

If you just tried to kill yourself by shooting a rifle into the back of your throat and you're crawling into a boat to die, you probably aren't taking the time to bury a rifle. So how come it hasn't been found?

/also, where are you getting your info? Believe it or not, your comment in this thread is the first relevant hit on Google for ".223 rifle Tsarnaev".


Google tailors your results to websites you visit the most often.

The kid was walking around for quite some time, they will eventually find the rifle...hopefully. That, or someone has already found it and kept it. It's going to be worth a lot of money one day.
 
2013-04-26 09:02:01 AM

YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.


Ah, but at your root, you're as irrational as the rest of us.

/I just used math puns to call you a toddler.
 
2013-04-26 09:02:05 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Wow, that sure was a fast recovery from a bullet to the neck.


Well, it's not like he took an arrow to the knee. I hear that's the kind of injury that lasts a lifetime.
 
2013-04-26 09:02:43 AM
Good.  Now all the press vehicles next to Beth Israel can GTFO.  Was next to a CNN vehicle at a stoplight this morning.  Hopefully they were GTFO of Boston.  There really was no reason for them to be there.
 
2013-04-26 09:02:44 AM

YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.


Yeah, well I'm the vector point of my experience.
 
2013-04-26 09:05:23 AM

stevarooni: a bowel movement of extended duration is cause for a Newsflash


This is nothing new. The New York Post has been a bowel movement of extended duration since its founding.
 
2013-04-26 09:06:09 AM

YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.


Which is the tangent line to reality.
 
2013-04-26 09:06:12 AM

jso2897: Popcorn Johnny: Let the rape commence!

In before the "prison rape isn't funny" comments.

It is funny, in the sense that 99% of it exists only in your overactive, homoerotic imagination.


Are you saying there's something wrong with homoerotic imaginations?  Check that attitude mister, it's not 1990 any more.
 
2013-04-26 09:08:17 AM

YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.


I'm the sum of stardust.
 
2013-04-26 09:08:18 AM

jso2897: YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.

Yeah, well I'm the vector point of my experience.


Particle Man, Particle Man...
 
2013-04-26 09:08:30 AM
Frizbone
Yes I do. 99.999% of Muslims are in fact terrorists...Nothing is good about that religion.


I think Obama would like to have a word with you over that statement. He's kinda partial to them mooslims.
 
2013-04-26 09:09:00 AM

Point02GPA: YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.

I'm the sum of stardust.


STENDEC
 
2013-04-26 09:09:53 AM

ga362: Frizbone
Yes I do. 99.999% of Muslims are in fact terrorists...Nothing is good about that religion.

I think Obama would like to have a word with you over that statement. He's kinda partial to them mooslims.


What do skinny cows have to do with it?
 
2013-04-26 09:10:41 AM

dittybopper: jso2897: cheyanne9: Was he was called for Jury duty?

[www.investors.com image 800x562]

Ramirez - lol.

You know who else didn't care for Ramirez?

[static.comicvine.com image 320x288]


RAMIREZ!  DISARM ALL THOSE BOMBS AND SEARCH ALL OF WATERTOWN FOR THOSE SUSPECTS!
 
2013-04-26 09:15:30 AM
"...and his heart monitor didn't register a blip when he was told he could be could be facing the death penalty..."

Im not a doctor but I don't think that means anything.
 
2013-04-26 09:15:57 AM

Mentalpatient87: This seems like a rather uneventful thing to write a news article about. Sure, the subject is big news, but who cares that they're moving him to a different place?


We have 8 stories a day on Fark about goddamn cats. I think this is a lot more newsworthy that a lot of the crap that goes across my screen on a daily basis.
 
2013-04-26 09:16:15 AM

dittybopper: Point02GPA: YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.

I'm the sum of stardust.

STENDEC


OMG!!!!! What a reference...U rock big time.
 
2013-04-26 09:27:03 AM
What you see here are human pieces of garbage. Their lives were and are worth less than nothing. They  do not deserve your sympathy. They are not victims, they are villains. One is  already dead, thank God. The other I hope will join him as  soon we can extract every scrap of information that we need.

Your religion or absence thereof does not give you the right to shatter the lives of others.

cbsbos.images.worldnow.com

This little guy had an entire lifetime ahead of him.
assets.nydailynews.com


Rest In Peace Martin Richard, Krystle Campbell, Sean Collier and Lu Lingzi.
 
2013-04-26 09:30:43 AM

meatsack_01: What you see here are human pieces of garbage. Their lives were and are worth less than nothing. They  do not deserve your sympathy. They are not victims, they are villains. One is  already dead, thank God. The other I hope will join him as  soon we can extract every scrap of information that we need.

Your religion or absence thereof does not give you the right to shatter the lives of others.

[cbsbos.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

This little guy had an entire lifetime ahead of him.
[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x730]


Rest In Peace Martin Richard, Krystle Campbell, Sean Collier and Lu Lingzi.


Even the biggest piece of shiat has rights (and these idiots are up there). That's the only way for anybody to have rights.
 
2013-04-26 09:33:37 AM

Point02GPA: dittybopper: Point02GPA: YixilTesiphon: dittybopper: jso2897: willfullyobscure: farkin white guys. so typical, you know?

People are the product of their experiences - a fact that applies to you and me both, pal.

Actually, I'm the sum of my experiences.

I'm the integral over the path of my experiences.

I'm the sum of stardust.

STENDEC

OMG!!!!! What a reference...U rock big time.


Best part:  Because I'm intimately familiar with Morse code, it's not really a mystery to me.  I pretty much know what it means:

BT END AR

If you drop the leading 'dah' off of the common prosign BT (which means "Break Text", a way to separate thoughts), you end up with ST (BT = -.../-  ST = .../- ).  The common prosign AR has the exact same pattern as EC (.-/.-. for AR, ./-.-. for EC), and in fact prosigns are "run together" so you it *COULD* be AR, EC, or RN (but by convention it's AR).  Through in a radio operator who is sending in a bouncing airplane*, combined with less than perfect signals, and you've got a mystery.

Alternatively, the "ST" could have actually been a "V", which has the same pattern (V = ...-).  Radio operators commonly send a V, or multiple ones, when warming up or trying to get attention.

Anyway, my theory is that the operator on StarDust was letting the operator in Santiago know he was signing out because they expected to be on the ground in a few minutes, and a combination of funky conditions, both propagation-wise and some jostling on the plane, led to the op at SCTI to mis-hear what was actually sent.

Had StarDust not gone all CFIT, it wouldn't have made any difference, no one would have ever questioned STENDEC as anything other than normal radio chatter misinterpreted.

*I do this while driving:  When I send Morse while driving on a bumpy road, I make mistakes.  It would be the same in turbulence over mountains
 
2013-04-26 09:33:53 AM

tuxq: He stuck a .223 rifle in his mouth and tried to kill himself. Little did he know, that only works if it goes into the brain. .223 isn't exactly the largest bullet (size can compensate for bad aim to some degree)


You are imagining stuff.  He was unarmed, and the gunshot wounds were inflicted by a third party.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/no_gun_found_with_tsarnaev_in_ bo at_MECHAXxa58dXmgZO8cIgrK
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/boston-bombing-suspect-unar me d_n_3150723.html
 
2013-04-26 09:35:07 AM

dittybopper: Through throw in a radio operator who is sending in a bouncing airplane


FTFM.
 
2013-04-26 09:36:55 AM
he might get a 5 star room with a HDTV and a Xbox. discuss ..
 
2013-04-26 09:37:09 AM

YixilTesiphon: Even the biggest piece of shiat has rights (and these idiots are up there). That's the only way for anybody to have rights.


So very much *THIS*.

The rules apply to everyone.  You may have the best of intentions when carving out limited exceptions, but as we all know, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
 
2013-04-26 09:37:40 AM

meatsack_01: This little guy had an entire lifetime ahead of him.


Not with those teeth. Here's a digital projection indicating that, at that rate, he'd be dead within three years:
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-26 09:37:57 AM

tuxq: So, if you fail so bad that you can't even kill yourself, would you continue carrying the rifle before finding a resting place to rest/die? I wouldn't bother.


No one tries to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the throat and leg.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/0421/Bombing-suspect-throat-injury -p revents-questioning-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-for-now-video

Facts: how do they work?
 
2013-04-26 09:41:11 AM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Think prisoners are a black ops team for true justice.

Tsarnaev will be treated with utmost respect by the system. He'll have visits from a Iman and fellow muslims to pray with and share his jihad journey. In time he'll have ghost writers visiting to tell his story.

Hell he already had a judge come and visit him at bedside.

The way this country perverts everything, next year at the Boston marathon will probably see the  Chechen flag paraded down the route.


You are confusing the fact that US citizens do have rights with some sort of pampering.

Your country is only as good as how well it treats its worse citizens.
 
2013-04-26 09:42:22 AM

maggoo: You are confusing the fact that US citizens do have rights with some sort of pampering.


Not just US citizens. Everybody within the United States is supposed to have those rights of theirs respected.
 
2013-04-26 09:42:40 AM

Theaetetus: If you just tried to kill yourself by shooting a rifle into the back of your throat and you're crawling into a boat to die, you probably aren't taking the time to bury a rifle. So how come it hasn't been found?


Plus, he also received at least a gunshot to a leg.  I wonder how they can spin this into something a fugitive does intentionally, or to commit suicide.
 
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