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(Breitbart.com)   That Mother Jones article saying more right-wingers have killed Americans than Islamists? Yeah, it's about as accurate as you'd expect from that bunch   (breitbart.com) divider line 326
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2013-04-26 09:10:50 AM
I don't know why you guys worry so much about this stuff when there are so many better things you could be doing like checking out porn, doing drugs, drinking liquor and passing out in the hot sun.  Stuff like that.
 
2013-04-26 09:10:52 AM

lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....


Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?
 
2013-04-26 09:10:52 AM

jake_lex: HotWingConspiracy: sammyk: Brietbart might as well become a fact checking organization. All others have turned biased within a short time

wat

The right-wing derpsphere is annoyed that the "lamestream press", before we had actual suspects in the Boston bombings, said a few times that it could very well be domestic terrorism or right wing groups, not Muslim terrorists.  To them, the fair and balanced way to cover this would have been to say when first reporting the explosions, "Some raghead did this."


It was diaperheads on facebook, but your point remains.
 
2013-04-26 09:12:32 AM

Rapmaster2000: I don't know why you guys worry so much about this stuff when there are so many better things you could be doing like checking out porn, doing drugs, drinking liquor and passing out in the hot sun.  Stuff like that.


I'm confident someone posting here is doing all of those things right now.
 
2013-04-26 09:12:41 AM
Breitbart's attempt to take down the Mother Jones position amounts to splitting hairs. In the end, Breitbart's article strengthens Mother Jones'.
 
2013-04-26 09:13:42 AM

HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?


Plus we get to ignore all the mason jars of acid thrown in womens faces and all the honor rapings and killings....because thats not terrorism.....its just an expression of culture that we should be tolerant of.

Would you like to join my drum circle?
 
2013-04-26 09:14:38 AM
Really?  The whole article comes down to

"Those weren't terrorists!  They were white so they were patriots!"  ?
 
2013-04-26 09:14:57 AM

Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?

Plus we get to ignore all the mason jars of acid thrown in womens faces and all the honor rapings and killings....because thats not terrorism.....its just an expression of culture that we should be tolerant of.


Yeah, huge numbers of that going on in the US. And yeah, it's not terrorism.

Would you like to join my drum circle?

No, you're kind of a dick.
 
2013-04-26 09:15:02 AM

cubic_spleen: Comparing Mother Jones to Breitbart? Really? A slightly left-of-center publication (MJ) vs reactionary batshiat-insane Repubilcan propaganda rag? Talk about comparing apples and screwdrivers...



6/10.  Not bad.
 
2013-04-26 09:15:07 AM
done in one
 
2013-04-26 09:15:14 AM

Close2TheEdge: This is true. But Tatsuma does make a fair point. The government has uncovered a few genuine terrorist plots before they could be carried out. Now, it's arguable as to how advanced those plots were or how well organized they were, but the fact is that law enforcement detected them and stopped them.

If there is anything to "fear", it's more of these single individuals carrying out mass attacks like Boston. Those are suspects who are very difficult to detect without the US becoming a police state, and that is simply not going to happen. But at some point, are these "terrorists" or simply maniacs with access to better tools of mass death (e.g. homemade bombs, semi-automatic weapons, etc.)


Yeah the only Islamic attacks that have actually worked since 9/11 have been acts from lone wolves.

Now, lone wolves can be extremely dangerous, the failed Time Square bombing, if it had worked, would have caused possibly hundreds of death. At least hundreds of casualties. It was a massive bomb, but he farked something up with the detonation mechanism. However, when it comes to larger plots, whether from Islamists or left-wingers or right-wingers, the FBI is on the farking ball. And we should all be pretty happy about that
 
2013-04-26 09:15:30 AM
Two things:

1. I thought the Right is were against "fact-checking", like it had a liberal bias, or something.

2. Fact-checking by Brietbart?
 
2013-04-26 09:15:50 AM
<csb> Growing up, two of my friends were twins who absolutely, positively hated each other.  Everything the other person did was wrong and perverse.  For the rest of the group, it was so exhausting that we eventually stopped hanging out with either one of them.</csb>

This story is relevant to this scenario.

/Trying to disprove Mother Jones by using Brietbart is like trying to disprove biblical Creationism by citing Hindu texts.
 
2013-04-26 09:17:02 AM
They are both wrong.

/Vote Kodos.
 
2013-04-26 09:17:40 AM

edmo: Our country is riddled with crime: rapists, murderers, thieves --  almost all Christians.

But let just one non-Christian set off a bomb...


The difference is that they don't rape, murder, and steal in the name of Christianity.
 
2013-04-26 09:17:48 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?

Plus we get to ignore all the mason jars of acid thrown in womens faces and all the honor rapings and killings....because thats not terrorism.....its just an expression of culture that we should be tolerant of.

Yeah, huge numbers of that going on in the US. And yeah, it's not terrorism.

Would you like to join my drum circle?

No, you're kind of a dick.


Aw come on.

I mellow out after a 45 minute jam on  Ob-La-Di.
 
2013-04-26 09:18:26 AM

Mikey1969: Two things:

1. I thought the Right is were against "fact-checking", like it had a liberal bias, or something.

2. Fact-checking by Brietbart?


Fact Checkers are da devil!
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2013-04-26 09:19:00 AM
Well, dumbmitter, considering that Islamists are, by definition, ultra-conservative to begin with, what difference does it make?
 
2013-04-26 09:19:32 AM

lantawa: there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.


Nah, there are at least a dozen.
 
2013-04-26 09:20:55 AM

bloobeary: SilentStrider: And with such a credible source such as Breitbart telling us this, you know it has to be true.

Every irony meter on the planet just exploded.

Sounded like popcorn.


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2013-04-26 09:21:15 AM

Tatsuma: mrlewish: Breitbart uses the Beltway sniper as a counterweight in statistics. That's like using some random car accidents.  Those killings were not religious in nature.  They were an extended plot to kill his wife.

Except that there was absolutely no proof to support that, and the judge explicitly told the prosecution to drop that line of reasoning and not bring it up during the trial. According to his own writings, it was in the name of jihad.


"While imprisoned, Malvo wrote a number of erratic diatribes about what he termed "jihad" against the United States.[26] "I have been accused on my mission. Allah knows I'm gonna suffer now", he wrote.[26] Because his rants and drawings featured not only such figures as Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, but also characters from the film series The Matrix, these musings were dismissed as immaterial.[26] Some investigators reportedly said they had all but eliminated terrorist ties or political ideologies as a motive."

Well if you include The Matrix as part of Islam you would be right.
 
2013-04-26 09:21:38 AM

SilentStrider: And with such a credible source such as Breitbart telling us this, you know it has to be true.


I will not soil my cursor by clicking on a Breitbart link.
 
2013-04-26 09:21:43 AM

Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: Giltric: HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?

Plus we get to ignore all the mason jars of acid thrown in womens faces and all the honor rapings and killings....because thats not terrorism.....its just an expression of culture that we should be tolerant of.

Yeah, huge numbers of that going on in the US. And yeah, it's not terrorism.

Would you like to join my drum circle?

No, you're kind of a dick.

Aw come on.

I mellow out after a 45 minute jam on  Ob-La-Di.


Wait when you said acid, did you mean LSD?
 
2013-04-26 09:22:12 AM
Facism is left wing?

The problem with the Crazy right is they make up false definitions of words to contort to their thoughts.  It's how Obama is a communist, even though by the definition of communism he cannot possibly be that.

The "extreme right" by it's very definition includes neo nazis, fascists and anarchists, by the very fact that they call for their individual being superior to notions of state.  The definition of "extreme right" happens to include nationalists, supremacists, religious theocracy...all the views that perceive their particular group has the "correct" or innately superior views.

These are not definitions from the lame stream media....the political spectrum definitions have been used since the French Revolution.
 
2013-04-26 09:23:04 AM

HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?


No assistance during the exam. Now get back to work...
 
2013-04-26 09:23:27 AM
Old Mother Jones and her crew
Took away from me and you
I hope she goes far away
She better go far away
 
2013-04-26 09:25:07 AM
When will all the religions and all the people of the world realize that there is no war but class war.
 
2013-04-26 09:25:22 AM
Na ah! YOUR terrorists are worse than MY terrorist. Check the stats!


/You all sound like Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith.
//Can't we just agree their all bad?
 
2013-04-26 09:25:24 AM
when your organization's name is literally a synonym for deceptive editing... you have no room to talk about accuracy.
 
2013-04-26 09:25:57 AM
Ironically ....Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is also "extreme right wing" by definition...it's just that the dominant group in America's right wing happens to be Christian fundamentalists instead of Islamic fundamentalists....but they are both right wing, in that they feel their religious views superseded the collective will of the rest.
 
2013-04-26 09:25:58 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: cubic_spleen: Comparing Mother Jones to Breitbart? Really? A slightly left-of-center publication (MJ) vs reactionary batshiat-insane Repubilcan propaganda rag? Talk about comparing apples and screwdrivers...


6/10.  Not bad.


It's not trolling, ace.  Just because you don't share a perspective that is consistent with reality means the problem is yours, bucko.
 
2013-04-26 09:26:52 AM

lantawa: HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?

No assistance during the exam. Now get back to work...


Already have my answer, honky ass right wingers are the bigger threat. Not that your per-capita reasoning is valid.
 
2013-04-26 09:27:07 AM

Mikey1969: Two things:

1. I thought the Right is were against "fact-checking", like it had a liberal bias, or something.

2. Fact-checking by Brietbart?


Facts that Breitbart disagrees with are Libfacts™, and therefore not facts at all.
 
2013-04-26 09:27:31 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Na ah! YOUR terrorists are worse than MY terrorist. Check the stats!


/You all sound like Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith.
//Can't we just agree their all bad?


Yes we can...
 
2013-04-26 09:27:32 AM

SilentStrider: And with such a credible source such as Breitbart telling us this, you know it has to be true.


Show how it isn't true. Your post has zero substance.
 
2013-04-26 09:28:47 AM

MacWizard: lantawa: there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.

Nah, there are at least a dozen.

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2013-04-26 09:29:03 AM

HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: HotWingConspiracy: lantawa: There are approximately 32 million "right-wingers" in the U.S.  there are approximately 2.6 Muslims in the U.S.  Calculate the ratios of terrorist acts to total suspect populations, and see what conclusions you can draw.  Begin now. Your work will be graded....

Do we get to define terrorism, or do we have to rely on our government that doesn't consider people like Jim David Adkisson terrorists because they used a gun? How far back can we look?

No assistance during the exam. Now get back to work...

Already have my answer, honky ass right wingers are the bigger threat. Not that your per-capita reasoning is valid.


Who you calling honkies, Negro!.....
 
2013-04-26 09:29:32 AM
Interactive Google Map of Right Wing Violence in America

But no I'm sure The American Front votes democrat /s
 
2013-04-26 09:32:42 AM

neversubmit: Interactive Google Map of Right Wing Violence in America

But no I'm sure The American Front votes democrat /s



They have multiple map points for the same crime....why would they do that?
 
2013-04-26 09:33:33 AM
Considering radical Islamism is a  sub-set of right-wing extremism, and as such still right-wing, this is nothing but an attempt to create a false juxtaposition.

Though, I do love the part where the Dead Asshole writer tries to claim white nationalism and Christian identity theology isn't right-wing.
 
2013-04-26 09:36:19 AM

neversubmit: Interactive Google Map of Right Wing Violence in America

But no I'm sure The American Front votes democrat /s


Got a less shiatty version of this map?
 
2013-04-26 09:36:28 AM
"People who do bad things are not right wing".  That is literally their argument.

Ok, we'll bombing people isn't Islam either, you stupid farks.
 
2013-04-26 09:37:50 AM
Simply reference an opposingly-biased source for the debunking of a particle story and presto, those who really wanted to believe it was actually true can do so again without having to worry about pesky little details such as reality.

Props to subby for the textbook trolling, got bites right from the start.
 
2013-04-26 09:38:06 AM
Just a thought and probably falls into the "welcome to Fark" category but constitutionally it does not really matter what race or religion the offender is and both arguments are irrelevant hate-baiting BS.
 
2013-04-26 09:39:17 AM
FTFA: "Jim David Adkisson... The motivation is at best split politically."

It's nice to see that the Breitbart empire is continuing to carry on his legacy of shameless lying and willful ignorance. This quote alone demonstrates the  utter worthlessness of the article.

Yes, I snipped out the middle portion, where they provide their uniquely stupid "explanation" of why they reach that conclusion, but it's pretty much "He hated Liberals, He thought they should be killed; BUT POTATO therefore both sides are bad"
 
2013-04-26 09:39:50 AM
Is there anything on Breitbart.com that isn't a textbook example of confirmation bias?
 
2013-04-26 09:40:18 AM

edmo: Our country is riddled with crime: rapists, murderers, thieves --  almost all Christians.

But let just one non-Christian set off a bomb...


Timothy McVeigh? Eric Rudolph? Ted Kaczynski?

And, not a bomber, but also Anders Breivik?

They all used Christianity as justification for their actions.  Having this US vs THEM mentality is part of what prevents us from solving the problem of crazies wanting to go out and kill a bunch of people
 
2013-04-26 09:41:39 AM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: FTFA: "Jim David Adkisson... The motivation is at best split politically."

It's nice to see that the Breitbart empire is continuing to carry on his legacy of shameless lying and willful ignorance. This quote alone demonstrates the  utter worthlessness of the article.

Yes, I snipped out the middle portion, where they provide their uniquely stupid "explanation" of why they reach that conclusion, but it's pretty much "He hated Liberals, He thought they should be killed; BUT POTATO therefore both sides are bad"


The dude wrote a farking manifesto laying out his case for murdering liberals inside of churches.

But again, gun, so not a terrorist.
 
2013-04-26 09:41:56 AM

edmo: Our country is riddled with crime: rapists, murderers, thieves --  almost all Christians.

But let just one non-Christian set off a bomb...


The middle east is filled with rapists, murderers and thieves.  We don't call every murder and rape an act of terror in those countries either.  Just because a right-winger who listens to Alex Jones kills someone doesn't make them a terrorist.  When they set off a bomb at a public event they are considered a terrorist.  How many of those are on that list?  I'll give you a hint, don't divide by it.
 
2013-04-26 09:44:43 AM

AirGee: edmo: Our country is riddled with crime: rapists, murderers, thieves --  almost all Christians.

But let just one non-Christian set off a bomb...

Timothy McVeigh? Eric Rudolph? Ted Kaczynski?

And, not a bomber, but also Anders Breivik?

They all used Christianity as justification for their actions.  Having this US vs THEM mentality is part of what prevents us from solving the problem of crazies wanting to go out and kill a bunch of people



He hated right wingers and said the left wasn't far enough left.......are you sure he carried out the bombings in the name of christianity?
 
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