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2013-04-25 11:47:39 PM
fark that biatch.
 
2013-04-26 12:41:23 AM
Flagrant abuse of emergency services?


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2013-04-26 01:22:09 AM
that ride starts at $750 where i live.
 
2013-04-26 01:25:08 AM
Let's hope all future medical care is behind bars.
 
2013-04-26 01:28:03 AM
So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.
 
2013-04-26 01:29:09 AM
When I was an EMT (so just about 10 years ago), this wasn't exactly uncommon.

Though, not to the tune of 100 rides over 7 years. It was mostly old ladies who couldn't swing a ride to the hospital for a doctor's appointment or dialysis.
 
2013-04-26 01:29:55 AM

KrispyKritter: that ride starts at $750 where i live.


Well hers were paid for by medicaid according to TFA. So your tax dollars paid for this shiat.
 
2013-04-26 01:30:13 AM
Good for them for having her arrested.  I dealt with that crap a lot when I did EMS.  There were multiple times they had to call in an ambulance from a distant station for legitimate emergencies in our district because we were tied up transporting some homeless guy with a vague medical complaint who wanted a free ride/wanted to go some place with air conditioning/wanted to get out of the rain, etc.
 
2013-04-26 01:32:07 AM
If she has been doing this for 7 years, she started in her early 40s. No win situation, taxpayer gets screwed either way. They should let her out and make her walk home.
 
2013-04-26 01:32:57 AM

Dr. Nick Riviera: Good for them for having her arrested.  I dealt with that crap a lot when I did EMS.  There were multiple times they had to call in an ambulance from a distant station for legitimate emergencies in our district because we were tied up transporting some homeless guy with a vague medical complaint who wanted a free ride/wanted to go some place with air conditioning/wanted to get out of the rain, etc.


I'm surprised they had her arrested for it. Believe it or not, people actually white knight and encourage this behavior.
 
2013-04-26 01:33:24 AM
It's $75.00 a ride here in Ontario, or at least it was year or so ago.
/yes, in a real ambulance
 
2013-04-26 01:34:20 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


You won't get left at home, but you might have to pay for the ride if it is deemed not medically necessary.  We already do this with Medicare.
 
2013-04-26 01:35:23 AM
Hey! What kind of injury do you think I would have to fake to get a free helicopter ride?
 
2013-04-26 01:36:03 AM

hardinparamedic: I'm surprised they had her arrested for it. Believe it or not, people actually white knight and encourage this behavior.



Huh? What possible justification could there be for outright fraud?
 
2013-04-26 01:42:14 AM
$425 a pop times 100 rides is $40k, not 400k as cited in the article.
 
2013-04-26 01:44:44 AM
Yeah, about 15 years ago, I got knocked out playing football with friends.  They helpfully called an amberlamps and the ride was 1800 dollars. Big bucks for a uninsured college freshman.  I could pay the hospital or the ambulance-mafia, apparently I choose poorly.after a year, they ambulance bastards turned it over to collection and I got the snot sued out of me.
Even now, with nice insurance, if I got injured and an ambulance shows up, I would deck anyone who tries to stuff me in it.  An assault charge and a free ride from the police would be infinitely cheaper.
100 times?
 
2013-04-26 01:46:19 AM
"Wait... that was wrong?  Now I feel horrible.  Faint even...  OMG call 911!  Quickly!... I'm dying..."
 
2013-04-26 01:49:47 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


LOL! I feel like arguing so I'm gonna make something up and get all melodramatic! Derp-a derp-a doo! Obama's gonna implant a microchip in my tongue to sense if I eat bacon more than twice a week so he can deny me a whaaaambulance ride when I have my my-O-cardial in-FARK-shun! Derrrrrr!
 
2013-04-26 01:54:07 AM

davidshi123: $425 a pop times 100 rides is $40k, not 400k as cited in the article.


Either way, take it out of her wallet.
 
2013-04-26 01:58:18 AM
Soon medics saw a disturbing pattern and got suspicious.

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2013-04-26 02:02:06 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


Did you just say "rationing ambulance service"?
I think they are supposed to be "rationed".  There is a fixed amount of the commodity.  Don't use it stupidly.  Rather, use it "rationally".  Or better yet, it should be used "conservatively".
 
2013-04-26 02:02:38 AM
Jesus!  When I was in college, if we couldn't find a cab, we would just order pizza delivery from a nearby pizza place, then wait out front for the delivery driver to walk out and ask him if this was the pizza to [my address]?  Then we would slip him an extra $10 or so and hitch a ride home and get a pizza out of it.

/I thought everyone did this?
 
2013-04-26 02:05:24 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


Maybe you shouldn't be crying wolf
 
2013-04-26 02:05:50 AM
mom?

srsly, she loves the attention. she's prone to "seizures". the funniest was when she pulled that sh*t outside of her preferred-hospital area and the ambulance was going to take her to another hospital that was more "black" than she would've preferred.

she perked right up in the back of the ambulance and the seizure ended.

/and before you jump down my throat and accuse me of being callous and heartless, these are attention-pleas. my brother is a doctor, my cousin (my mom's nephew) is a local fire-fighter/paramedic, and his ex-wife is a main nurse at my mom's preferred hospital. my cousin has responded to her 911 calls more than any other paramedic. he knows her history.
//she has more mental issues than medical issues.
 
2013-04-26 02:06:33 AM
Disapproves...

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2013-04-26 02:06:35 AM

thorthor: Let's hope all future medical care is behind bars.


And cost the taxpayers more money?
 
2013-04-26 02:09:26 AM

WhiskeyBoy: Jesus!  When I was in college, if we couldn't find a cab, we would just order pizza delivery from a nearby pizza place, then wait out front for the delivery driver to walk out and ask him if this was the pizza to [my address]?  Then we would slip him an extra $10 or so and hitch a ride home and get a pizza out of it.

/I thought everyone did this?


I never thought of doing that, but it's genius.
 
2013-04-26 02:11:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


Also it looks like you'll be left in jail instead of left at home, if this article is any indication.
 
2013-04-26 02:12:27 AM

WhiskeyBoy: Jesus!  When I was in college, if we couldn't find a cab, we would just order pizza delivery from a nearby pizza place, then wait out front for the delivery driver to walk out and ask him if this was the pizza to [my address]?  Then we would slip him an extra $10 or so and hitch a ride home and get a pizza out of it.

/I thought everyone did this?


In most college towns, you didn't need a car for anything. Were you chasing after townies... ineffectively?
 
2013-04-26 02:13:09 AM

davidshi123: $425 a pop times 100 rides is $40k, not 400k as cited in the article.


A ride in an ambulance will run your insurance company around $1000; depending on where you live. But, there are other costs that they are probably factoring in. The medics, maintenace, the dispatcher, the dispatching service/center, reallocating assets from other areas for real emergencies.

/ medical stuff always costs the moon
 
2013-04-26 02:13:42 AM
Pretty typical behavior when people don't have to pay for anything.  There are a lot of frequent flyers at the ED's I've worked in... sometimes they come in because they want attention or get bored at home.  One lady came in by ambulance.... for a pregnancy test.  She was made to wait a good long while in the waiting room after it was learned what her reason for coming in really was (she originally said something about chest pain).  Oh, people...
 
2013-04-26 02:14:31 AM
further degrading the fark headline
 
2013-04-26 02:20:59 AM
We had a patient who would go out to the restaurant of her choice (or the bar of her choice) and when she had enough to eat or drink she would then have a pseudoseizure, someoene would call 911, ambulance shows up while she is putting on her act, and she would then get out of paying her bill. Once she was in the rig, any paramedic who didn't recognize her or pseudoseizures would give her a nice ativan buzz on the ride to the hospital where she would promptly refuse treatment.
 
2013-04-26 02:21:34 AM

WhiskeyBoy: Jesus!  When I was in college, if we couldn't find a cab, we would just order pizza delivery from a nearby pizza place, then wait out front for the delivery driver to walk out and ask him if this was the pizza to [my address]?  Then we would slip him an extra $10 or so and hitch a ride home and get a pizza out of it.

/I thought everyone did this?


in a college town, that happens all the time.

late 90's, non-college town, my roommate and I would order pizza, ask to talk to the driver, and then ask the driver stop at a Walgreen's, liquor store, 7-11... to pick us up cigarettes, milk, bread, pop, chips...

now of course we reimbursed him and tipped him well enough to cover that hassle. and this was something that took years of being loyal customers and recognizing and being nice to the delivery guys.

if we were playing poker or having a party, we would invite the delivery guys to come back later after their shift and invite their coworkers.

they'd come back around 2am with a handful of waitresses ready to party.
/I don't think that would happen now.
 
2013-04-26 02:24:16 AM
The public transportation in the Charleston area may be different, but many cities have free bus passes for people on Medicaid or SSDI as well as shuttles that pick up people with disabilities from home.
 
2013-04-26 02:26:55 AM

calbert: mom?

srsly, she loves the attention. she's prone to "seizures". the funniest was when she pulled that sh*t outside of her preferred-hospital area and the ambulance was going to take her to another hospital that was more "black" than she would've preferred.

she perked right up in the back of the ambulance and the seizure ended.

/and before you jump down my throat and accuse me of being callous and heartless, these are attention-pleas. my brother is a doctor, my cousin (my mom's nephew) is a local fire-fighter/paramedic, and his ex-wife is a main nurse at my mom's preferred hospital. my cousin has responded to her 911 calls more than any other paramedic. he knows her history.
//she has more mental issues than medical issues.


Not to tell you your business, but.......You should probably call her more often, and or find someone to look after her permanently.

/ there are many programs out there for whily seniors. Toward the end of her life; my granny would have accidents. She'd get hurt, wake up in a hospital, not know where she was and attempt to head for the hills. She once got out of her hospital bed, dressed, packed and in the elevator; all with a half dollar sized hole in her left leg before the night nurse tracked her down.
 
2013-04-26 02:33:14 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-26 02:34:18 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


If anything, you should be left at home because of posts like this, not because you called.
 
2013-04-26 02:37:16 AM

Walter Paisley: The public transportation in the Charleston area may be different, but many cities have free bus passes for people on Medicaid or SSDI as well as shuttles that pick up people with disabilities from home.


If you can ride the bus to cash your welfare check, you can ride the bus to work.
 
2013-04-26 02:44:33 AM

detritus: Walter Paisley: The public transportation in the Charleston area may be different, but many cities have free bus passes for people on Medicaid or SSDI as well as shuttles that pick up people with disabilities from home.

If you can ride the bus to cash your welfare check, you can ride the bus to work.


So disabled people must walk?
 
2013-04-26 02:58:11 AM

Walter Paisley: detritus: Walter Paisley: The public transportation in the Charleston area may be different, but many cities have free bus passes for people on Medicaid or SSDI as well as shuttles that pick up people with disabilities from home.

If you can ride the bus to cash your welfare check, you can ride the bus to work.

So disabled people must walk?


You missed the Al Capp reference.
 
2013-04-26 03:17:43 AM

Walter Paisley: The public transportation in the Charleston area may be different, but many cities have free bus passes for people on Medicaid or SSDI as well as shuttles that pick up people with disabilities from home.


I'm cool with free public transport for people with disabilities but here the short buses basically run a free taxi service for seniors. It's pretty farked up, but they do control the local government.
 
2013-04-26 03:19:16 AM

Dr. Nick Riviera: I dealt with that crap a lot when I did EMS.


It's scary to think about an EMT who calls himself Dr. Nick Riviera...

/never called 911
 
2013-04-26 03:38:05 AM

Oldiron_79: KrispyKritter: that ride starts at $750 where i live.

Well hers were paid for by medicaid according to TFA. So your tax dollars paid for this shiat.


In other words, it was economic stimulus. All government spending stimulates the economy.

Signed,

Paul Krugman
 
2013-04-26 03:59:30 AM
Wonder how many miles she racked up over the years.

The record for the longest ambulance ride with a patient is 3,269 km (2,031 miles) achieved by Ambulix® Fire & Rescue (DK) with a Mercedes Benz Sprinter 312 Diesel ambulance from Lisbon (PT) to Copenhagen (DK) between 14 October 2004 and 16 Oct 2004.
 
2013-04-26 04:03:13 AM

drgloryboy: We had a patient who would go out to the restaurant of her choice (or the bar of her choice) and when she had enough to eat or drink she would then have a pseudoseizure, someoene would call 911, ambulance shows up while she is putting on her act, and she would then get out of paying her bill. Once she was in the rig, any paramedic who didn't recognize her or pseudoseizures would give her a nice ativan buzz on the ride to the hospital where she would promptly refuse treatment.


CSB:

I had a guy pull this years ago - it was in a Waffle House that just happened to be next to a police station.

We (the ambulance crew) knew the guy was faking - he was lying on the floor, cracking his eyes open just enough so he could see what was going on.

The waitress is describing what happened ("he fell onto the floor and just started shaking") to us and the cops when one officer asked, "Did he pay his bill?"

"No."

"How much was it?"

The waitress found his bill - "$14.50"...that's a LOT of food at a Waffle House, at least it was in the mid 90s.

The officer said, "Hold on," flipped the guy over onto his stomach, pulled his wallet out, found a $20, gave it to the waitress, and said, "Keep the change."

I still had to take the guy to the hospital, but DAMN, that dude was PISSED.  It was awesome!

/CSB
 
2013-04-26 04:04:47 AM
Always knew when the new Medicaid cards were mailed. We would get an increase in calls for the first few weeks for BS medical reasons. two of the best calls was a woman who called 911 to complain of leg pain. We arrive and she comes walking down her driveway with a suitcase. She said she has a procedure scheduled for later on and needed a ride to the hospital. PD was called on that one. The other was a general medical way on the other side of the county. When we got there, the "patient" came walking out dressed up fort a night of clubbing in town. Told her since we were on the southern edge of the county, i had to transport to the local hospital in Eufaula. She argued i that i had to take her to a "horsepital" that she wanted to go to. Non-emergency, receiving ER is my discretion, and we left her standing in her driveway

/10yr Paramedic
 
2013-04-26 04:09:12 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: So when health care is universal and "free", we will be rationing ambulance service based on the judgment of some government bureaucrat? I'm not sure I'd be too happy about getting left at home because I called for an ambulance one too many times.


I have 'free' medical care.

They don't really ration it though.  They just get around to you when they can.  It's incredibly common to wait months to get a simple, routine thing sorted out.  And even though you are still a paying customer (your taxes after all, I mean, assuming you work) you are so far removed from paying that the staff really just doesn't care.  I showed up to my appointment after waiting two months, then waited FOUR HOURS in the waiting room....'Sorry, we're a little backed up today' is all the said.

Since it's 'free' I couldn't do anything.  If I leave, I can't just go somewhere else.  I need to be referred, prioritized by medical need, and assigned a place in a queue.  If I walk out after waiting THREE HOURS, I can't come back tomorrow.  Now, I have to start over again.  It could be another month or two.

And, since it's 'free' I don't even get to schedule a time.  No, they contact me, via post/letter, and tell me when and where it is.  I don't have a car....but I need to go to the hospital on the other side of town?  Too bad.  I can spend 40 minutes on the phone trying to get my location changed, but even that will add another 1-2 weeks as the NEW hospital will need to send out a letter after scheduling me into their queue.

Yay!  Free health care!
 
2013-04-26 04:11:11 AM

bigbabysurfer: drgloryboy: We had a patient who would go out to the restaurant of her choice (or the bar of her choice) and when she had enough to eat or drink she would then have a pseudoseizure, someoene would call 911, ambulance shows up while she is putting on her act, and she would then get out of paying her bill. Once she was in the rig, any paramedic who didn't recognize her or pseudoseizures would give her a nice ativan buzz on the ride to the hospital where she would promptly refuse treatment.

CSB:

I had a guy pull this years ago - it was in a Waffle House that just happened to be next to a police station.

We (the ambulance crew) knew the guy was faking - he was lying on the floor, cracking his eyes open just enough so he could see what was going on.

The waitress is describing what happened ("he fell onto the floor and just started shaking") to us and the cops when one officer asked, "Did he pay his bill?"

"No."

"How much was it?"

The waitress found his bill - "$14.50"...that's a LOT of food at a Waffle House, at least it was in the mid 90s.

The officer said, "Hold on," flipped the guy over onto his stomach, pulled his wallet out, found a $20, gave it to the waitress, and said, "Keep the change."

I still had to take the guy to the hospital, but DAMN, that dude was PISSED.  It was awesome!

/CSB


Have a similar story......
Called to the local strip joint for a seizure. Arrived to find a dancer in the bathroom on the floor doing her best seizure impression. I just watched her for a few minutes, noticed her regular breathing rate and the occasional eye opening to see if we were watching. When she stopped, i checked her pulse,it was in the normal range, and i told her if she pissed herself i might just believe her. She sat up and and flipped me off
 
2013-04-26 04:37:10 AM

Fark_Guy_Rob: They don't really ration it though. They just get around to you when they can. It's incredibly common to wait months to get a simple, routine thing sorted out. And even though you are still a paying customer (your taxes after all, I mean, assuming you work) you are so far removed from paying that the staff really just doesn't care. I showed up to my appointment after waiting two months, then waited FOUR HOURS in the waiting room....'Sorry, we're a little backed up today' is all the said.


Oh you poor dear.
 
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