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WGJ
2013-04-25 09:36:14 PM
7 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
Basically what it boiled down to.
2013-04-25 08:50:49 PM
4 votes:
At least the Boston PD didn't shoot up any asian paper delivery women, amirite?
2013-04-25 11:13:02 PM
3 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: o5iiawah: echomike23: so they didn't have a m4 carbine?

I heard it was a Glock AK-47 with detachable high-capacity 30 bullet clip mags.  Collapsible stocks and barrel shrouds included...

Actually they had multiple 900-round ammo belts, and the bullets were injected with depleted uraniaum and then sprayed with teflon so they would penetrate SWAT vests. And they soaked them in rat poison so they wounds wouldn't coagulate.

/and their unexploded bombs were filled with ebola virus


You've got it all wrong, they were armed with AR-69 Dildo Assault Rifles.

i47.tinypic.com
2013-04-25 10:28:34 PM
3 votes:

max_pooper: MrHappyRotter: Good god, it's like half of Fark is 90% haters, half is 90% retards and the other half is 90% psychos.

And coming up in the third half of the show is the answer to last week's puzzler.


and don't drive like my brother?
2013-04-25 10:07:38 PM
3 votes:
Good god, it's like half of Fark is 90% haters, half is 90% retards and the other half is 90% psychos.
2013-04-25 09:42:48 PM
3 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: o5iiawah: echomike23: so they didn't have a m4 carbine?

I heard it was a Glock AK-47 with detachable high-capacity 30 bullet clip mags.  Collapsible stocks and barrel shrouds included...

Actually they had multiple 900-round ammo belts, and the bullets were injected with depleted uraniaum and then sprayed with teflon so they would penetrate SWAT vests. And they soaked them in rat poison so they wounds wouldn't coagulate.

/and their unexploded bombs were filled with ebola virus


buffetoblog.files.wordpress.com
2013-04-25 08:18:04 PM
3 votes:

Walker: Wow, how many times is this story gonna change? And people wonder why other people believe in conspiracy theories.


It's almost as if this whole thing was a lot more complicated than some episode of CSI that wraps up in an hour.
2013-04-25 09:42:04 PM
2 votes:
Thisbymaster:  All those bullets shot and they didn't even kill him?

He tried to commit suicide with one of the bullets.
2013-04-25 09:34:40 PM
2 votes:
I for one am glad that this will never happen again.
2013-04-25 09:30:34 PM
2 votes:

jaytkay: ZOMG all the exact details were not known immediately in a chaotic situation!!!

UNPOSSIBLE!!!!


Is Boston-ghazi a scandal yet?
2013-04-26 11:02:55 AM
1 votes:
Cops were wearing personnal video devices. We're picking up the first image from the scene.
chicago.seriouseats.com
2013-04-26 12:43:28 AM
1 votes:

TopoGigo: Seriously? Are we even talking about the same thing here? Are you honestly saying that the fact that a terrorism suspect was believed to be hiding somewhere in a multi-block area gives probable cause for police to search multiple houses without warrants? Even Scalia can't believe what an asshole you are.


Let's say the police saw the suspect (an armed and extremely dangerous individual believed to be responsible for several deaths and a great deal of destruction) enter one specific house. Would they need to get a warrant before they could go inside?
2013-04-26 12:28:47 AM
1 votes:

401kman: whidbey: 401kman: whidbey: Because a suspected mass murder wannabe eluding capture isn't probable cause enough to go on a manhunt.

It was more like a military invasion than a manhunt.    Putting that kind of ordinance in close contact with with civilians is more like something for a time of war.  Because the very real problem is that putting troops in with civilians will cause casualties.

In this case the police/fbi response was way overkill for the even the worst case projections of what heat the suspects were packing.

Not seeing it. And I would have to say that after a horrible act of attempted mass murder that took place at the Marathon and the firefight in Watertown, anyone refusing to cooperate in the ensuing manhunt just ends up looking like a total asshole hampering an apprehension process.

Suppose I told you that 97% +/- (say 2%) of the bullets fired/bombs set off were from law enforcement in the apprehension of these suspects in a crowded city neighborhood.   And that your odds from being the victim of some gun crime vs a terrorist attack are 100,000 to 1.  Lets say there is a 75% percent chance that everything I just said was true.

Would you still say that the cops/fbi response had made you any safer?


I would expect this kind of total manhunt knowing incredibly dangerous the suspects were, and definitely after the subsequent events in Watertown.

And the fact is NO ONE'S rights were violated. Going all tinfoil hat emotional doesn't change this.
2013-04-26 12:06:05 AM
1 votes:
www.charlock.org
2013-04-25 11:54:18 PM
1 votes:

TopoGigo: whidbey: Because a suspected mass murder wannabe eluding capture isn't probable cause enough to go on a manhunt.

Not in my f*cking house, it isn't. If you have probable cause---not just reasonable suspicion--to believe the suspect is in my house, then sure, come on in. If you just happen to think he's somewhere in the neighborhood? Go f*ck yourself.


Just referencing the 4th Amendment. And if you don't think probable cause was justified after an attempt at mass murder, then you are sorely mistaken.
2013-04-25 11:44:54 PM
1 votes:

401kman: With all of the guys in full body armor you think that they could have sent ONE guy into find out if the suspect is armed.

ShawnDoc: They were moving in to take a guy who they thought was armed and dangerous in the boat.


See, this is what I don't get. Under normal circumstances, they might have to send in a guy in body armor. But this wasn't normal circumstances... they had a frickin' Terminator:
www.abc.net.au
They had already sent the robotic arm - with a camera on the end, mind you - to pull the tarp open. At that point:
(i) they could use the camera to see if he was armed or wearing a suicide vest;
(ii) they could use the robot arm to poke him inna face multiple times to see if he's conscious;
(iii) they could use the robot arm to grab him by a leg and lift him up in the air and dangle him until he's unconscious;
(iv) they could smack him around with the robot arm, knowing that to get away, he'd have to climb out of the boat and expose himself to the cops.

So, wtf did they open fire at all? Unless taking him alive wasn't a goal, of course.
2013-04-25 11:14:11 PM
1 votes:

remus: I'm sorry, but if you ask me to choose Safety or Liberty, I'll keep my Liberty and take my chances. They should have been getting search warrants.


You are very brave.

If you had been on the scene, this whole tragedy would have been averted.
2013-04-25 10:46:27 PM
1 votes:

Christian Bale: A furious gunfight ensued on Laurel Street in Watertown, where more than 200 rounds were fired, officials said. A transit police officer, Richard H. Donohue, was shot in his right leg and critically wounded during the gunfight.


uh...so what is the headline supposed to mean, subby? That there was no crazy shootout in Watertown?


It looks like it may be turning out to be more of a shoot at.
2013-04-25 10:20:41 PM
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Good god, it's like half of Fark is 90% haters, half is 90% retards and the other half is 90% psychos.


And coming up in the third half of the show is the answer to last week's puzzler.
2013-04-25 10:13:54 PM
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Good god, it's like half of Fark is 90% haters, half is 90% retards and the other half is 90% psychos.


Haters, retards and psychos, oh my!
2013-04-25 10:09:27 PM
1 votes:

flyinglizard: redsquid: TheManofPA: Amos Quito: jaytkay: ZOMG all the exact details were not known immediately in a chaotic situation!!!

UNPOSSIBLE!!!!


When in doubt, make shiat up.

Chances are that MOST people will remember the made up shiat, and pay little mind to the pesky "details" as they trickle out anyway.

Kind of related, wonder how many people remember Richard Jewell as the Olympics bomber.

I was just talking about that the other day and couldn't for the life of me remember the actual bombers name. Yay media!

It was Jack Ruby.


It was Eric Rudolph.

Jack Ruby, Ruby for short, is the guy they made that football movie about.
2013-04-25 09:56:33 PM
1 votes:
I think cops can shoot anyone whether they have a gun or not.   I'm not sure of the rules but LAPD shot a pickup truck full of holes.   40 shots I believe, at two unarmed newspaper women.    It wasn't the color, make or model they were looking for but still.     You can shoot if you think they could possibly have 'weapon', like a newspaper.

A day later they rammed another pickup off the road, again not matching at all the truck in question.   I think they shot a few times and the truck burned.

So this article is kind all over the map in its story line.   But in the end, I think we see that these Boston cops are sluffs.   LA laughs at you.
2013-04-25 09:46:59 PM
1 votes:

IntertubeUser: After capturing the younger brother, my opinion of law enforcement improved a bit.  And now...this.  Cops are generally lying sacks of shiat who are marginally better than the scum they're after, but they are still generally lying sacks of shiat.

Never trust cops to tell the truth.  Ever.



Treat them with respect due vampires.

Never invite them into your home.
Do not engage them in conversation.
Avoid the places they frequent.
2013-04-25 09:38:37 PM
1 votes:

Krieghund: It's almost as if this whole thing was a lot more complicated than some episode of CSI that wraps up in an hour.


If I've learned anything from CSI, it's that they have the most advanced computers in the world, capable of enhancing just about anything.
2013-04-25 09:34:47 PM
1 votes:

o5iiawah: echomike23: so they didn't have a m4 carbine?

I heard it was a Glock AK-47 with detachable high-capacity 30 bullet clip mags.  Collapsible stocks and barrel shrouds included...


Actually they had multiple 900-round ammo belts, and the bullets were injected with depleted uraniaum and then sprayed with teflon so they would penetrate SWAT vests. And they soaked them in rat poison so they wounds wouldn't coagulate.

/and their unexploded bombs were filled with ebola virus
2013-04-25 09:31:13 PM
1 votes:

sheep snorter: Drug money??

Better arrest the pharmaceutical industry executives and see why they hate 'Murica.
Oh wait thats a legal drug that is destroying America with terrorist old ladies going to Target. But she did not have a drivers license so no crime committed.


wat.
2013-04-25 09:30:40 PM
1 votes:

echomike23: so they didn't have a m4 carbine?


I heard it was a Glock AK-47 with detachable high-capacity 30 bullet clip mags.  Collapsible stocks and barrel shrouds included...
2013-04-25 09:29:50 PM
1 votes:

LessO2: It's gonna be hard to find anyone, short of relatives, to be outraged about shooting at these guys, whether they had any guns or not.   There will likely be more people outraged at the fact little brother didn't die.


I'm pretty outraged about the police response to this whole situation. Shutting down a major US city for nearly a week and shooting at unarmed suspects? This isn't Judge Dredd. The police don't get to dole out death to those they think that deserve it. We have courts for a reason in this country.
2013-04-25 09:27:41 PM
1 votes:
ZOMG all the exact details were not known immediately in a chaotic situation!!!

UNPOSSIBLE!!!!
2013-04-25 09:27:28 PM
1 votes:
It's gonna be hard to find anyone, short of relatives, to be outraged about shooting at these guys, whether they had any guns or not.   There will likely be more people outraged at the fact little brother didn't die.
2013-04-25 09:22:40 PM
1 votes:
2013-04-25 08:55:55 PM
1 votes:

Krieghund: Walker: Wow, how many times is this story gonna change? And people wonder why other people believe in conspiracy theories.

It's almost as if this whole thing was a lot more complicated than some episode of CSI that wraps up in an hour.


I'm just glad the media won't pull shiat out of their arse to sensationalize events
 
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