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(Slate)   Protip: If you're going to commit disability fraud, don't upload videos of yourself half-naked, wrapped in foil, and doing the robot to Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride"   (slate.com) divider line 69
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2013-04-25 07:20:05 PM  
This far into the thread and nobody mentioned the This American Life episode about disability? For shame! It's an excellent episode about how the system can be used and abused.
 
2013-04-25 07:38:20 PM  

kiwimoogle84: antidisestablishmentarianism: sn68f: It also seems like it's a lot easier to get disability if you say you're depressed rather than getting it for actually being disabled. The system sucks.

I know at least 2 people who have done this.

I was able to take a leave of absence from work for solely this reason once a few years back. Granted I had just suffered something horrible and tragic, so it was legit, but I'm thankful it was an option at the time.

I don't get people who are on antidepressants when there's nothing wrong with their life though. Dated a guy like that. He said the medication make him function normally and he couldn't get up otherwise. I'm going, huh? His life was just fine, nothing had happened to warrant needing meds. *shrug*


Psst. Depression can be just as much a physiological disorder as anything else--it doesn't require something to have "happened". This myth probably caused more problems in my life than the depression itself, and led to my not being diagnosed properly for ten years. I'd go to doctors with awful debilitating depression and get referred to psychologists and therapists who spent hours dissecting my life and childhood "But everything seems to be fine! Why are you so unhappy?" I finally hospitalized myself and was able to convince a doctor by letting him see that sure enough, I got depressed for no reason at all, every two weeks. It happens.
 
2013-04-25 07:48:10 PM  
Ignore stubby, con artists. We like it when you're too stupid to cover up your bullshiat. Makes things easier.
 
2013-04-25 07:58:58 PM  

MrEricSir: This far into the thread and nobody mentioned the This American Life episode about disability? For shame! It's an excellent episode about how the system can be used and abused.


You're right! I just listened to it a few days ago and it was a real eye opener! Glad to see someone link to it.
 
2013-04-25 09:12:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: kiwimoogle84: antidisestablishmentarianism: sn68f: It also seems like it's a lot easier to get disability if you say you're depressed rather than getting it for actually being disabled. The system sucks.

I know at least 2 people who have done this.

I was able to take a leave of absence from work for solely this reason once a few years back. Granted I had just suffered something horrible and tragic, so it was legit, but I'm thankful it was an option at the time.

I don't get people who are on antidepressants when there's nothing wrong with their life though. Dated a guy like that. He said the medication make him function normally and he couldn't get up otherwise. I'm going, huh? His life was just fine, nothing had happened to warrant needing meds. *shrug*

Psst. Depression can be just as much a physiological disorder as anything else--it doesn't require something to have "happened". This myth probably caused more problems in my life than the depression itself, and led to my not being diagnosed properly for ten years. I'd go to doctors with awful debilitating depression and get referred to psychologists and therapists who spent hours dissecting my life and childhood "But everything seems to be fine! Why are you so unhappy?" I finally hospitalized myself and was able to convince a doctor by letting him see that sure enough, I got depressed for no reason at all, every two weeks. It happens.


Well, I'm aware that it happens, I guess I just personally don't understand it. Said ex had everything he wanted and a great life. I personally couldn't empathize with it because I had my own issues to work through and his life seemed like a dream world to me.

I guess that is the indicator though, if nothing has happened to actively cause depression but you still have it, it's an actual chemical imbalance. I just know people who use that as an excuse, a la "I'm not fat, I just have a thyroid problem." Some people actually do, it's true. But for a lot of people I think if they're unhappy with things in their life the best place to start is making changes for themselves.

This is of course coming from the chick whose life could be a major soap opera, there's been so many bizarre tragedies and awful circumstances. I'm horribly jaded, and I admit it freely. So don't take offense, I just look at some people and wonder what the hell they could possibly be depressed about.
 
2013-04-25 09:23:08 PM  

karmaceutical: tea bagger-like dancing detected.


That dude's your mom?
 
2013-04-25 09:25:23 PM  

sn68f: kiwimoogle84: sn68f:

My mom OD'd on ER-Morphine in Feb, triggering a stroke and multiple organ failure. I do honestly think she didn't know that's what it was, nor that she was allergic to it (the dangers of self medicating and sharing your meds with others). While in ICU the lung doctor asked me about her previous medical conditions/history. I said she had fibromyalgia. He proceeded to lecture me on how it wasn't a "real" disorder, that it was some made up crap to make women feel better, and the only thing it's treated with is antidepressants.  I asked him if he was a neurologist and he said no, and I said then stfu.  Asshole.  Mom's back home and taking care of herself. Still waiting on medicaid to come through, because Medicare does not cover all the medical bills. She is 66 and living off $620 SS/mo. First medicaid app and SSI were denied. Apparently $620 is too much. Her out of pocket just for meds is now $241/mo. The whole reason she wasn't on meds before is she couldn't afford them. I paid for the first month, her sister covered April. No idea what we are going to do for May.


Needymeds.org

if it's not there one day then try the next. Look for both generic and name brand. get ready for paperwork. Good luck and god bless.

/this, from an agnostic.
 
JVD
2013-04-25 09:34:38 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Was it this guy?
[i232.photobucket.com image 300x199]
Sure, blame the guy in the chair.


That show has many valuable lessons!
 
2013-04-25 09:57:29 PM  

JustinCase: sn68f: kiwimoogle84: sn68f:

My mom OD'd on ER-Morphine in Feb, triggering a stroke and multiple organ failure. I do honestly think she didn't know that's what it was, nor that she was allergic to it (the dangers of self medicating and sharing your meds with others). While in ICU the lung doctor asked me about her previous medical conditions/history. I said she had fibromyalgia. He proceeded to lecture me on how it wasn't a "real" disorder, that it was some made up crap to make women feel better, and the only thing it's treated with is antidepressants.  I asked him if he was a neurologist and he said no, and I said then stfu.  Asshole.  Mom's back home and taking care of herself. Still waiting on medicaid to come through, because Medicare does not cover all the medical bills. She is 66 and living off $620 SS/mo. First medicaid app and SSI were denied. Apparently $620 is too much. Her out of pocket just for meds is now $241/mo. The whole reason she wasn't on meds before is she couldn't afford them. I paid for the first month, her sister covered April. No idea what we are going to do for May.

Needymeds.org

if it's not there one day then try the next. Look for both generic and name brand. get ready for paperwork. Good luck and god bless.

/this, from an agnostic.


thanks, I'll check into it. I got an application for another program, too. She came out of the hospital with 13 different medications. Some are cheap, some are not. Taking care of me and my bf and my mom, ya it's depressing. Not debilitating though. I've taken zoloft before (at the end of my Iraq tour) and it worked wonders for me. This time around it's not working so I figure I must not be as chemically imbalanced as I was before. They make me overly jittery or numb, whereas before I was quite happy. I wasn't in chronic pain before either, so maybe that is affecting it.

I would take the video evidence of this guy as proof he is mentally incapable of holding a job. It doesn't matter what his physical limitations are, he's a fruitcake.

kiwi...best of luck to ya, I hope things get better. It seemed like it was easier for me to hold things together when I had my kids to take care of. They're grown now and pretty much on their own. They stayed in ND when I moved to Texas. I think they're the ones that are mental!
 
2013-04-25 09:57:51 PM  
half naked, wrapped in foil, doing the robot to Steppenwolf's Magic Carpet Ride"

Everybody knows you should be doing that to Gary Numan's "Are Friends Electric?"
 
2013-04-25 10:41:18 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Profedius: These people get up to 2000.00 a month plus

WRONG!


Cash assistance, housings, food, medical and so on can easily add up to $2000 a month in tax free income. I know because that is what my ex-wife used to get. Factor in taxes for that money and your looking at an effective monthly income of over $2500.
 
2013-04-26 12:23:07 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Just exactly why does "don't upload videos of yourself half naked, wrapped in foil, doing the robot to Steppenwolf's Magic Carpet Ride" require a qualifier?


Because 'Murrica.
 
2013-04-26 04:40:42 AM  
There's an episode of COPS where this guy keeps mentioning every two seconds to the police questioning him (for breaking into a house by climbing through the window) "I'm permanently disabled! I'm on SSDI because I'm permanently disabled! I've got a bad back and I'm almost paralyzed!" All the while pacing around and then explaining that his ex or someone lives in that house and he'd lost his key and that's why he had to climb in via the window that was quite some distance off of the ground. Which made his task doubly difficult, since he's almost paralyzed and all.
 
2013-04-26 07:57:10 AM  
"...disability benefits for nearly 18 years because he said he was badly impaired by depression, anxiety, asthma, obesity and sore muscles that he was unable to leave his house"

'Murica!
 
2013-04-26 09:53:52 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Profedius: These people get up to 2000.00 a month plus

WRONG!


No I am not one of the duties of my office is to investigate disablity fraud. Granted 2000.00 is at the extreem end, but there are those that do get that much.
 
2013-04-26 10:44:04 AM  

Profedius: TV's Vinnie: Profedius: These people get up to 2000.00 a month plus

WRONG!

No I am not one of the duties of my office is to investigate disablity fraud. Granted 2000.00 is at the extreem end, but there are those that do get that much.


No, you're wrong and you doubled-down on your lie. A relative had to go on disability and he only got the maximum, which was around $1500. If he was getting more, it likely came from other sources, like Railroad workers comp.
 
2013-04-26 12:27:48 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Was it this guy?
[i232.photobucket.com image 300x199]
Sure, blame the guy in the chair.


Came for Ray.
 
2013-04-26 04:03:04 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Profedius: TV's Vinnie: Profedius: These people get up to 2000.00 a month plus

WRONG!

No I am not one of the duties of my office is to investigate disablity fraud. Granted 2000.00 is at the extreem end, but there are those that do get that much.

No, you're wrong and you doubled-down on your lie. A relative had to go on disability and he only got the maximum, which was around $1500. If he was getting more, it likely came from other sources, like Railroad workers comp.


No I think we are just not on the same page when I said up to $2000.00 I was speaking of the highest government benefit my office has discovered an individual to be receiving who was committing disability fraud. I do not know the breakdown as to how much came from what program, but it doesn't really matter since the source is the same.
 
2013-04-26 04:46:56 PM  

Profedius: TV's Vinnie: Profedius: TV's Vinnie: Profedius: These people get up to 2000.00 a month plus

WRONG!

No I am not one of the duties of my office is to investigate disablity fraud. Granted 2000.00 is at the extreem end, but there are those that do get that much.

No, you're wrong and you doubled-down on your lie. A relative had to go on disability and he only got the maximum, which was around $1500. If he was getting more, it likely came from other sources, like Railroad workers comp.

No I think we are just not on the same page when I said up to $2000.00 I was speaking of the highest government benefit my office has discovered an individual to be receiving who was committing disability fraud. I do not know the breakdown as to how much came from what program, but it doesn't really matter since the source is the same.


Well, I cannot see how even in the most farked up of circumstances how a guy can be making more than the legal amount. Even if some worker was asleep at the keyboard, the system itself would never shovel out $2K per month at one guy.


Even if you were on Social Security AND SSI (both run by the SSA but still two separate programs), the amount would have been slit so that the individual can only get a TOTAL maximum amount  between them.

You $2K story just doesn't hold up. You'll need more than "cuz I said so!" to back up your claim.
 
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