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2013-04-25 02:04:24 PM
50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.
 
2013-04-25 02:30:35 PM
thats bull. they should pay a premium for using canadian resources .
 
2013-04-25 03:15:03 PM
Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.
 
2013-04-25 03:18:50 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.


If you're lucky maybe ALL the sane, intelligent, educated and able people will leave the USA.  Then it will just be people like you.

I'm only half kidding.  Love of ignorance and disdain for intelligence/education is one of the hallmarks of America today, especially the right wing.  It's like you've all seen Idiocracy and thought "a few more handguns and that would be a Utopia!"
 
2013-04-25 03:33:34 PM

sithon: thats bull. they should pay a premium for using canadian resources .


As someone who has an american friend who went to a canadian post secondary school, they do pay a premium

/Even then, it is lower than the cost in the USA
 
2013-04-25 03:45:56 PM

themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.


I disagree.  There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.
 
2013-04-25 03:48:20 PM
Maple Syrup Commodities 101
Advanced Skating Techniques
How to Choose Winnable Wars 201

etc.
 
2013-04-25 03:51:07 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.


Well, we now know were the doctors redirected your lower digestive system. I hope that cranium can handle the extra load.
 
2013-04-25 04:03:35 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.



o_o
 
2013-04-25 04:06:41 PM
I got into Queen's University.  My other acceptances were more appealing.  As I recall, they wanted to you pretty much decide your major on day 1.  I wanted more flexibility.
 
2013-04-25 04:18:51 PM

themindiswatching: Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.


And yet, many job postings for positions like those list a bachelor's as a requirement
 
2013-04-25 04:25:00 PM

Diogenes: I got into Queen's University.  My other acceptances were more appealing.  As I recall, they wanted to you pretty much decide your major on day 1.  I wanted more flexibility.


Also you have to be a preppy. Sweaters tied around your shoulders at all times.

/only a little bit joking
//I turned them down too
 
2013-04-25 04:26:15 PM

Uisce Beatha: themindiswatching: Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.

And yet, many job postings for positions like those list a bachelor's as a requirement


Which is exactly the problem.
 
2013-04-25 04:30:57 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Diogenes: I got into Queen's University.  My other acceptances were more appealing.  As I recall, they wanted to you pretty much decide your major on day 1.  I wanted more flexibility.

Also you have to be a preppy. Sweaters tied around your shoulders at all times.

/only a little bit joking
//I turned them down too


Not a problem.  At least not back then.  Ended up at Colgate.  Never regretted that choice.  It was a toss up between there and Weslyan in CT.  I was wait-listed at Princeton and said fark that.

What still puzzles me is I was rejected by my safety school - University of Vermont.

My top pick was Amherst and that didn't happen.
 
2013-04-25 05:09:54 PM
You mean that pumping endless supplies of free money into a market causes prices to rise?

/Econ-101
 
2013-04-25 05:11:05 PM

brap: themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.

I disagree.  There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.


If we're talking should then a high school education should be enough to make you educated. Thirteen years of school is plenty of time to educate someone.
 
2013-04-25 05:16:51 PM
By Rehema Ellis and Jeff Black, NBC News


But even though the political science major plans to go straight to Capitol Hill when he graduates this spring, he will have a degree from a Canadian college -- McGill University in Montreal.


DERP
 
2013-04-25 05:17:20 PM
My child graduates in one month and has most of her college paid for.
Texas Tomorrow Fund FTW.
 
2013-04-25 05:17:56 PM

sithon: thats bull. they should pay a premium for using canadian resources .


They do, usually around a 100% premium. The numbers ITFA include that premium, American colleges are really just that overpriced.
 
2013-04-25 05:17:59 PM

Maud Dib: My child graduates in one month and has most of her college paid for.
Texas Tomorrow Fund FTW.


From High School, that is...
 
2013-04-25 05:18:04 PM
punkygibbon.co.uk
Getting reading to beat the shiat out of the young Yanks.
 
2013-04-25 05:18:08 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Diogenes: I got into Queen's University.  My other acceptances were more appealing.  As I recall, they wanted to you pretty much decide your major on day 1.  I wanted more flexibility.

Also you have to be a preppy. Sweaters tied around your shoulders at all times.

/only a little bit joking
//I turned them down too


I live in Kingston.  There are no shoulder-sweaters, but the overall douchiness of the city increases threefold during the school year. Garbage is strewn through the streets, cars set on fire, etc.
 
2013-04-25 05:19:03 PM
Teach kids how to learn, then free Internet for everyone. Done.
 
2013-04-25 05:19:19 PM

oldfarthenry: jehovahs witness protection: Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.

Well, we now know were the doctors redirected your lower digestive system. I hope that cranium can handle the extra load.


This would have been funnier if you hadn't misspelled the word "where".
 
2013-04-25 05:19:20 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: jehovahs witness protection: Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.

If you're lucky maybe ALL the sane, intelligent, educated and able people will leave the USA.  Then it will just be people like you.

I'm only half kidding.   Love of ignorance and disdain for intelligence/education is one of the hallmarks of America today, especially the right wing.  It's like you've all seen Idiocracy and thought "a few more handguns and that would be a Utopia!"



I see it as the educated right-wingers manipulating the rest of the right.  The blue collar/social/religious conservatives will ignore the evil ivy tower elitists as long as they give lip-service to anti-abortion etc. Whats the matter with Kansas?

/SRCAR
 
2013-04-25 05:20:32 PM

Diogenes: I got into Queen's University.  My other acceptances were more appealing.  As I recall, they wanted to you pretty much decide your major on day 1.  I wanted more flexibility.


That's Queen's, not every Canadian university is like that.
 
2013-04-25 05:21:48 PM
I think subby was trying to use the line from the movie "Used Cars" Leaving disapointed nobody got it but me
 
2013-04-25 05:21:59 PM

spentshells: But even though the political science major plans to go straight to Capitol Hill when he graduates this spring, he will have a degree from a Canadian college -- McGill University in Montreal.


Those words mean different things in Canadian English, but they mean pretty much the same thing in American English (some of the time, anyway, and even when they have subtly different meanings, those meanings are closer than they are in Canadian).  I've noticed that some Canadians love to pounce on that as if it's a mistake, but it really isn't.
 
2013-04-25 05:23:10 PM

MemeSlave: You mean that pumping endless supplies of free money into a market causes prices to rise?

/Econ-101


Oddly, that's not what they teach in college. Hmmmm.......
 
2013-04-25 05:24:36 PM

Blues_X: jehovahs witness protection: Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.


o_o


Don't mind him, he's just being more obvious about his spite and petty xenophobia today than usual.
 
2013-04-25 05:26:33 PM

brap: themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.

I disagree.  There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.


They can always educate themselves. Public University isn't a necessary condition for education.
 
2013-04-25 05:27:46 PM

themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.


Did you just come out of a coma from the 1950s?  No one does "filing papers" and "answering phones" anymore.
 
2013-04-25 05:28:08 PM
As a graduate of a Canadian college, I'm hard-pressed to believe that college is "cheap" in Canada. Seems to me that tuition in Canada has been on the same skyward trajectory as anywhere else.

/Canadian citizen by birth
//RTFA? Ain't nobody got time for that!
 
2013-04-25 05:29:21 PM
Anything that erodes the artificial importance of a 'well rounded education' is just honky dorey by me. Using extortion to pay the salaries of a bunch of worthless professors who teach worthless nonsense to hapless students somehow annoys me to no end.
 
2013-04-25 05:29:24 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Good riddance.
Hopefully foreigners will skip infesting America too.


You're descended from "foreigners," you farking retard.
 
2013-04-25 05:29:47 PM

Maud Dib: My child graduates in one month and has most of her college paid for.
Texas Tomorrow Fund FTW.


They have college in Texas? Why?
 
2013-04-25 05:31:18 PM
I paid $700 per semester for a B.A.Sc. at (arguably) the best engineering school in Canada.

Of course, I graduated 20 years ago. It probably costs a little more now. But even at the time that seemed really cheap. The tuition at MIT and Stanford would have been greater than an order of magnitude higher (as a foreigner, but still).
 
2013-04-25 05:31:36 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: As a graduate of a Canadian college, I'm hard-pressed to believe that college is "cheap" in Canada. Seems to me that tuition in Canada has been on the same skyward trajectory as anywhere else.

/Canadian citizen by birth
//RTFA? Ain't nobody got time for that!


Yeah hey USA tution is hella expensive.  Even with poorly-qualified USA doofus paying out of province tution, he's still paying way less than OOS tution.

And of course those losers in Quebec don't pay shiat for tuition.
 
2013-04-25 05:31:42 PM
And don't get me started on the rent!
i.huffpost.com
 
2013-04-25 05:32:08 PM
Granted, I would like an explanation why the cost of higher education has outpaced the rate of inflation for the past 30 years, but their comparison is flawed.  They are comparing affordable Canadian schools to private U.S. schools.  The tuition at the Canadian schools is comparable to good U.S. public schools (i.e. Virginia, Texas, Wisconsin), but then there is no story.
 
2013-04-25 05:34:20 PM

themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.


The problem is that very few outfits have people who answer phones and "file papers" anymore.  Even those that do have a fraction of what they used to.

The replacement for the secretary is the admin or exec assistant, and if their bosses are demanding I can assure you that they are not typing f*cking memos and chatting with the other gals in the typing pool.  They are solving whatever problem their execs throw at them.  Being good at it requires initiative, research skills, and resourcefulness and a four year degree is a good indicator of the former two.

I've dealt with dimwitted EAs - you'd rather not have them in your organization at all because they can create more problems than they solve.
 
2013-04-25 05:34:42 PM

gopher321: Maple Syrup Commodities 101
Advanced Skating Techniques
How to Choose Winnable Wars 201

etc.


As a Canadian, I find this post... hilarious.
 
2013-04-25 05:35:16 PM

studs up: MemeSlave: You mean that pumping endless supplies of free money into a market causes prices to rise?

/Econ-101

Oddly, that's not what they teach in college. Hmmmm.......


That's right.  They teach us that if  the financial aid students start doing poorly in first and second year classes, the instructors will start giving out extra credit assignments and test questions to keep the free cup cake line rolling in the college or university.
 
2013-04-25 05:35:51 PM
Almost no college majors actually prepare you for what you will end up doing. Womyn's Studies, really?

We have dumbed down the admissions requirements way, way too low as well. Have a pulse, or be a minority and you get in. Everyone gets As in HS now because A is now 65 or better.

As for Texas bashing, where do you think all the jobs are now? Texas. Because they are not asses about taxes and they have all the high tech big companies setting up shop. But heh, feel good in Pigsknuckle, Vermont with your head shop.
 
2013-04-25 05:36:36 PM
I haven't been in school for almost a decade but from what I remember it cost me close to $5000/year but international students (including US) paid around $20,000/year.
I lived at home so my costs only included course tuition.
 
2013-04-25 05:36:59 PM

brap: themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.

I disagree.  There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.


I can think of thousands and thousands of little, green, paper reasons. College is not for learning, it's for profit. You're lucky if you use anything you learn after college.
 
2013-04-25 05:41:12 PM

hitlersbrain: brap: themindiswatching: 50% of people in college probably should be in the trades or some sort of vocational school instead. Filing papers and answering phones shouldn't need a bachelor's degree.

I disagree.  There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.

I can think of thousands and thousands of little, green, paper reasons. College is not for learning, it's for profit. You're lucky if you use anything you learn after college.


If you pay attention and try to learn as much as you can, you will use the education every day of your life even if you dont work in your field. Facts arent the only thing learned in school.
 
2013-04-25 05:41:28 PM

Maud Dib: Maud Dib: My child graduates in one month and has most of her college paid for.
Texas Tomorrow Fund FTW.

From High School, that is...


That the one that was so popular they had to discontinue it?

/oldest Nephew got in... but none of the others
 
2013-04-25 05:41:32 PM

brap: There is no reason why everyone should not be educated, even if you want to spend the rest of your life doing menial labor or office work.


As long as you are paying for it yourself, that is. I don't care how you waste your money as long as you are only wasting your money.
 
2013-04-25 05:44:59 PM

ElStreak: Maud Dib: My child graduates in one month and has most of her college paid for.
Texas Tomorrow Fund FTW.

They have college in Texas? Why?


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