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2013-04-25 12:27:57 PM

PunGent: what_now: Fibro: what_now: Fibro: what_now: Hey you know I'm going to give this lady a pass. She just found out that her son is not only dead, he was a monster who ruined her other son's life.

Good for you.  Maybe you should marry her?

...are you a five year old?

No, I'm not. You're sympathizing with a crazy biatch who spawned mass murdering children.

I was initially poking fun at your stupidity in a lighthearted manner, but apparently I should have been direct so you understood it.

Yes. Yes I am. Because from everything I've read, these assholes picked this up on their own. This wasn't the family business.  I feel bad for her because I'm a human farking being and I understand how terrible it must be to have overwhelming grief as well as guilt.

Save your sympathy...she named her eldest after a guy who called himself the Sword of Islam and killed 5% of the planet's population in his time...she's just disappointed the loser didn't live up to his namesake.


Yeah, you know who I fng hate? People name Alexander.
 
2013-04-25 12:28:05 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: Ackbarican_Idol: She's wanted on 2012 felony charges of shoplifting and property damage in Massachusetts, according to court officials.

The family lived there before she jumped bail, and they moved the same year to Dagestan, a semiautonomous region of Russia, officials said.

Is there a reason she can't be extradited?


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Well when you steal $1600 dollars you can just disappear.  But when you steal 600 million they will find you unless they think you're already dead.

//would laugh my ass off if they arrested her cut her hand off if she comes back.
///authorities already said they wouldn't...

 
2013-04-25 12:28:47 PM

Cyberluddite: Apparently she spends a lot of time reading Infowars and listening to Glenn Beck.


I was not aware that Glenn Beck thought her sons were framed and the bombing was faked.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:28 PM

Tatsuma: Cyberluddite: Apparently she spends a lot of time reading Infowars and listening to Glenn Beck.

Uh, those two are basically at antipodes. Also Alex Jones hates the shiat out of Glenn Beck, and Glenn Beck constantly ridicules Alex Jones


I like the word antipodes, but come on crazy is just crazy.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:48 PM
I hope the police are there to take her into custody at the airport when she lands, since she never showed up for her court hearing on shoplifting charges.
 
2013-04-25 12:30:39 PM
5 stages of grief:

1. Denial and Isolation
 
2013-04-25 12:31:15 PM

what_now: I feel bad for her because I'm a human farking being and I understand how terrible it must be to have overwhelming grief as well as guilt.


yeah, that's what the Columbine parents and the Tucson Shooter's parents both went through.  each was arguably more -- this is not the word i want to use but it will have to do -- culpable than our girl here, but....yeah.  to what i said above, she learned not even 10 days ago, but barely 7, that her kids were responsible.

the entire world is watching and the bulk of them want to attribute their horrific acts to her.  just not right.  we may find out she was on some level responsible for what they did but....to know that your flesh and blood created that horror has to be just unimaginable.
 
2013-04-25 12:31:17 PM

Ned Stark: What group has both the means and motivation to fake a bombing AND ALSO would be unwilling to just bomb the Marathon themselves and pin it on whoever they were going to pin the fake on?


WRONG. the bombing did happen. The conspiracy really started when the government found out that Zooey Deschanel was behind it. So, Obama had no choice but to set up to patsies. And I'm ok with that. If we have to frame and kill every Chechen in America, it would be worth it to protect our precious Zooey.
 
2013-04-25 12:31:26 PM

what_now: Fibro: what_now: Hey you know I'm going to give this lady a pass. She just found out that her son is not only dead, he was a monster who ruined her other son's life.

Good for you.  Maybe you should marry her?

...are you a five year old?


YOU are the one who is like a 5 year old
 
2013-04-25 12:31:27 PM
Hell, if they can get her to pay back the $1,600 she stole then the "Natick Collection" would double their profits from that year!
 
2013-04-25 12:31:31 PM
From my experience having lived in the Middle East, and also being related to some hardcore Teabaggers, I would say that the level of denial and self-delusion is much, much higher amongst Muslims. I don't know if it's from living in countries where the government is so horribly corrupt, but I think it's more a function of thought processes that are an integral part of Islamic doctrine. My experience has been that highly educated Muslims are just as inclined to subscribe to batshiat crazy conspiracy theories, whereas in America there's a much lower rate of authoritarian paranoia among the highly-educated. Teabaggers can accept cognitive dissonance easier than Muslims can, who have a tendency to fly into a rage of furious denial when presented with unpleasant truths.
 
2013-04-25 12:32:02 PM
Oh c'mon - leave the poor woman alone.
 
2013-04-25 12:32:11 PM
Religion?
 
2013-04-25 12:32:53 PM

neversubmit: I like the word antipodes, but come on crazy is just crazy.


I agree that crazy is just crazy, I was merely pointing out they hold completely different positions that bear very little resemblance.

Glenn Beck is pretty much the Devil to anyone who reads the Infowars drivel.
 
2013-04-25 12:33:59 PM

CygnusDarius: And apparently the parents were listeners of Alex Jones.


One of the kids was, allegedly. Maybe the FBI just found mom's "Fw: FW: fw: Fw: Fw: fw: fw" emails in the kid's inbox.
 
2013-04-25 12:34:15 PM
Well I see now after reading the article that she isn't coming here . Yesterday news reports said she was coming here.
 
2013-04-25 12:34:33 PM

Huggermugger: I would say that the level of denial and self-delusion is much, much higher amongst Muslims. I don't know if it's from living in countries where the government is so horribly corrupt, but I think it's more a function of thought processes that are an integral part of Islamic doctrine. My experience has been that highly educated Muslims are just as inclined to subscribe to batshiat crazy conspiracy theories, whereas in America there's a much lower rate of authoritarian paranoia among the highly-educated.


I think it might more have to do with elements of Islam than even living in these countries.

Last time I checked, less than 50% of Muslims in America believed that Muslims were behind 9/11
 
2013-04-25 12:35:03 PM

ItsJustJake: They got their crazy from Religion.  They got Religion from their parents.

Religion = Preventable Mental Illness.


sensible religion control now!

regulate Islam. the innocent need not fear the state!

why, this country was based on the oppression of minority religious groups!
 
2013-04-25 12:35:38 PM

what_now: Hey you know I'm going to give this lady a pass. She just found out that her son is not only dead, he was a monster who ruined her other son's life.


Yep, that was my reaction. Okay its apparent she didnt have anything to do with the bombing so why are we tormenting this poor woman?
 
2013-04-25 12:35:58 PM

what_now: Hey you know I'm going to give this lady a pass. She just found out that her son is not only dead, he was a monster who ruined her other son's life.


She didn't raise the boys with a work ethic. She raised them to mooch, cheat and steal. She dodged the responsibilities of being a good American citizen by working out of her home, under the table, yet collected welfare benefits.  She was a serial shoplifter of high end items because she was materialistic. Then, when Tamerlan went on with the "god talk" as Uncle Ruslan would say, mom joined in rather than setting him straight.
 
2013-04-25 12:36:21 PM

kbronsito: Ned Stark: What group has both the means and motivation to fake a bombing AND ALSO would be unwilling to just bomb the Marathon themselves and pin it on whoever they were going to pin the fake on?

WRONG. the bombing did happen. The conspiracy really started when the government found out that Zooey Deschanel was behind it. So, Obama had no choice but to set up to patsies. And I'm ok with that. If we have to frame and kill every Chechen in America, it would be worth it to protect our precious Zooey.


You know, any conspiracy theory that includes Zooey Deschanel in pasties is one I'll root for.

Wait, patsies?  Never mind, I like my version better.
 
2013-04-25 12:36:52 PM
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2013-04-25 12:36:53 PM

Tatsuma: Huggermugger: I would say that the level of denial and self-delusion is much, much higher amongst Muslims. I don't know if it's from living in countries where the government is so horribly corrupt, but I think it's more a function of thought processes that are an integral part of Islamic doctrine. My experience has been that highly educated Muslims are just as inclined to subscribe to batshiat crazy conspiracy theories, whereas in America there's a much lower rate of authoritarian paranoia among the highly-educated.

I think it might more have to do with elements of Islam than even living in these countries.

Last time I checked, less than 50% of Muslims in America believed that Muslims were behind 9/11


B-b-b-ut ERIC RUDOLPH!!!!!
 
2013-04-25 12:38:37 PM

Kibbler: So, we're down to hating the mother, now?  After the two of them lived in the states for 10+ years?

We hate and blame and hate the mother?  Who is clearly cracked in two with grief and shame?

Seems legit.



We don't "hate" her.  She's just very vocal and VERY irrational - I wouldn't be surprised if her maiden name was Kardashian.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:03 PM
I love that Putin tries to tie in how the west funded those Russia was fighting and calls them terrorists, yeah putty, we didn't invade Chechnya like Russia did to instigate the fighting.

What a dumb ass.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:31 PM

Loadmaster: Cyberluddite: Apparently she spends a lot of time reading Infowars and listening to Glenn Beck.
I was not aware that Glenn Beck thought her sons were framed and the bombing was faked.


No, he's now moved on to the theory that it was a Saudi conspiracy masterminded by a buddy of Michelle Obama, and that Fartbongo is letting him get away with it.  Or something.

Different theory, same crazy.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:34 PM
I heard this lady speak to the press a few days ago, ended her rant with Alllah Ackbar a few times.

She is not doing Islam any favors and will likely be given advice soon from some Imam to STFU.
 
2013-04-25 12:44:06 PM

what_now: Yeah, you know who I fng hate? People name Alexander.


sharetv.org
 
2013-04-25 12:44:13 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: ...And that's why you never stick your dick in crazy.


Nooooooooooo!  You stick the dick in the crazy as much as you can.  You just wear a condom, and preferably nice protective head gear, and check under the pillows for any forgotten ice picks.
 
2013-04-25 12:45:43 PM

Tatsuma: Cyberluddite: Apparently she spends a lot of time reading Infowars and listening to Glenn Beck.

Uh, those two are basically at antipodes. Also Alex Jones hates the shiat out of Glenn Beck, and Glenn Beck constantly ridicules Alex Jones


But by listening to them both, they get a Fair and Balanced world view.

Diversity!
 
2013-04-25 12:46:43 PM

Huggermugger: From my experience having lived in the Middle East, and also being related to some hardcore Teabaggers, I would say that the level of denial and self-delusion is much, much higher amongst Muslims. I don't know if it's from living in countries where the government is so horribly corrupt, but I think it's more a function of thought processes that are an integral part of Islamic doctrine.


And not to make excuses for her derp, but growing up in the Soviet Union--where systematically lying to the populace and surpressing facts was a central tenet of the government and the Communist Party that controlled the government--certainly can't have inspired her to distrust the government any less.
 
2013-04-25 12:46:49 PM

Bauer: Tatsuma: I think that when the uncle called them losers, he did it because he knew what stock they were from, clearly.

that's some fine racism you displayed there.


That's not even close to being racist.
 
2013-04-25 12:49:20 PM

Egoy3k: Bauer: Tatsuma: I think that when the uncle called them losers, he did it because he knew what stock they were from, clearly.

that's some fine racism you displayed there.

That's not even close to being racist.


This is true.  It's probably more along the lines of  eungenics and not racism.
 
2013-04-25 12:52:08 PM
This is the fundamental problem with the oriental mindset. there is no real concept of honor or shame, only false equivalence of "saving face" that makes them look for any way, any way at all, to avoid responsibility, and concomitantly commit horrid crimes and rationalize them much more easily than any westerner in their right mind could. This womans entire being is irrational and devoted to only finding a way for reality to become twisted in her mind until her children aren't killers and it's America's fault. She probably rationalized her shoplifting the same way, and thinks if she could skip bail and not face trial, she actually didn't do anything bad, because hey, no harm no foul, right?

Its a failing of Eastern culture. Its irreparable and its why we'll never get along with those people. Fundamentally, we believe in good and evil actions, and they only believe in getting away with whatever they can.
 
2013-04-25 12:52:21 PM
She sent her child at age 10 to live with an uncle. Parenting mistake #1 (You are in it for the long haul lady). Comparte that to parenting mistake #2 with the Connecticut Mom who was not checked in to his zip files, amongst other things, and you have a similar situation. Kids need stable parenting for along time.  I am so disgusted with this lady who blames others (our country) for her wild child. Ugh.
 
2013-04-25 12:53:25 PM

Huggermugger: From my experience having lived in the Middle East, and also being related to some hardcore Teabaggers, I would say that the level of denial and self-delusion is much, much higher amongst Muslims. I don't know if it's from living in countries where the government is so horribly corrupt, but I think it's more a function of thought processes that are an integral part of Islamic doctrine. My experience has been that highly educated Muslims are just as inclined to subscribe to batshiat crazy conspiracy theories, whereas in America there's a much lower rate of authoritarian paranoia among the highly-educated. Teabaggers can accept cognitive dissonance easier than Muslims can, who have a tendency to fly into a rage of furious denial when presented with unpleasant truths.


But these people aren't from the Middle East. Their culture is closer to Russian than to Iran. Yes, even when Islam factored in.
 
2013-04-25 12:53:52 PM

what_now: Hey you know I'm going to give this lady a pass. She just found out that her son is not only dead, he was a monster who ruined her other son's life.


True... Denial is a protection scheme.... Casey Anthony and Scott Peterson's parents both 'believed' in their childrens' innocence, even though they knew logically, they were guilty.
 
2013-04-25 12:53:55 PM
It is if you have a irrational fear of soup.
 
2013-04-25 12:54:23 PM

Cyberluddite: Egoy3k: Bauer: Tatsuma: I think that when the uncle called them losers, he did it because he knew what stock they were from, clearly.

that's some fine racism you displayed there.

That's not even close to being racist.

This is true.  It's probably more along the lines of  eungenics and not racism.


I'm guessing the uberjuden was referring to the uncle knowing what a dingbat the mom is, with no reference to the chosen race or eugenics or whatever.
 
2013-04-25 12:54:46 PM

sandi_fish: WTF is wrong with people? Glad it's not just Americans.


I  assure you, it is not.  Arabs for example LOVE conspiracies.  Just troll the possibility of one in front of any cab driver in Cairo.  You'll get an earful.

Honestly, who DOES'NT love a good conspiracy?
 
2013-04-25 12:55:59 PM

legion_of_doo: Cyberluddite: Egoy3k: Bauer: Tatsuma: I think that when the uncle called them losers, he did it because he knew what stock they were from, clearly.

that's some fine racism you displayed there.

That's not even close to being racist.

This is true.  It's probably more along the lines of  eungenics and not racism.

I'm guessing the uberjuden was referring to the uncle knowing what a dingbat the mom is, with no reference to the chosen race or eugenics or whatever.


Stop with your reading comprehension.

/some people see racism everywhere
 
2013-04-25 12:56:42 PM

tarhammer: Nooooooooooo!  You stick the dick in the crazy as much as you can.  You just wear a condom, and preferably nice protective head gear, and check under the pillows for any forgotten ice picks.



(Sigh) it's true.  Crazy is a hell of a lay.
 
2013-04-25 12:59:04 PM

legion_of_doo: Cyberluddite: Egoy3k: Bauer: Tatsuma: I think that when the uncle called them losers, he did it because he knew what stock they were from, clearly.

that's some fine racism you displayed there.

That's not even close to being racist.

This is true.  It's probably more along the lines of  eungenics and not racism.

I'm guessing the uberjuden was referring to the uncle knowing what a dingbat the mom is, with no reference to the chosen race or eugenics or whatever.


That's what I was thinking, too.  I'm assuming here that the uncle is the brother of the dad, not the mom.  And also assuming the mom and dad are the same ethnicity.
 
2013-04-25 12:59:27 PM

ItsJustJake: They got their crazy from Religion.  They got Religion from their parents.

Religion = Preventable Mental Illness.


Yup. You and me can keep ringing this bell, regardless of how many Fark hypocrites want to pretend that it's okay to be a right-winged, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic asshole as long as you call yourself a "Muslim" and not a "Christian."
 
2013-04-25 01:01:14 PM

Cyberluddite: This is true. It's probably more along the lines of eungenics and not racism.


Eugenics? For fark's sake.

legion_of_doo: I'm guessing the uberjuden was referring to the uncle knowing what a dingbat the mom is, with no reference to the chosen race or eugenics or whatever.


Yeah, the uncle knowing that his brother, his wife and his sister were batshiat insane, nothing to do with Eugenics what in the fark.
 
2013-04-25 01:02:05 PM

Tatsuma: Cyberluddite: Apparently she spends a lot of time reading Infowars and listening to Glenn Beck.

Uh, those two are basically at antipodes. Also Alex Jones hates the shiat out of Glenn Beck, and Glenn Beck constantly ridicules Alex Jones


Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant really hated each other too.
 
2013-04-25 01:04:42 PM
I think we can safely say where the Tsarnaev Brothers got their crazy from

Watching CNN?
 
2013-04-25 01:04:52 PM

iheartscotch: Diogenes: Maybe someone can beat some sense into her with one of the victims' severed limbs.

"Does THAT feel staged!?  Does THAT feel staged!?   Does THAT feel staged!?"

I kind of feel for her; she's just lost a son and the other son looks to be heading for life in prison, if not the gallows.

Of course she'd say that they didn't do it; she's their mom! I imagine that the majority of mothers would react similarly in that situation.

/ your number 1 fan will always be your mom


I understand the desire to protect your kids - from outside forces and from themselves. There comes a
time, though, when you have to make them stand on their own two feet, whether they want to or not. My
moment came when I had to tell the judge, a week before Christmas, that my son was just giving him lip
service and nothing he said to my son was being taken seriously and that sending him home from
juvenile detention would just reinforce the idea that he could manipulate everyone around him.

The judge looked at me like I was a heretofore undiscovered species. Then he sent my son back to the
jdc until Christmas Eve, when we were leaving to go visit in-laws.

My son was 13. He tried to snap his brother's neck and tried to stab me in the back of my neck.
 
2013-04-25 01:07:13 PM

kbronsito: Ned Stark: What group has both the means and motivation to fake a bombing AND ALSO would be unwilling to just bomb the Marathon themselves and pin it on whoever they were going to pin the fake on?

WRONG. the bombing did happen. The conspiracy really started when the government found out that Zooey Deschanel was behind it. So, Obama had no choice but to set up to patsies. And I'm ok with that. If we have to frame and kill every Chechen in America, it would be worth it to protect our precious Zooey.


i.qkme.me
 
2013-04-25 01:11:58 PM

that was my nickname in highschool: ...And that's why you never stick your dick in crazy.


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