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(University of Arizona)   This guy makes Westboro Baptist Church protest signs look sane   (wildcat.arizona.edu) divider line 329
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2013-04-25 06:20:51 PM

jackrazz: magicgoo: So you're saying women can no longer look sexy when they go to parties. And, if they go to any party, they must assume they will be raped. So, by your logic, chicks can't go to parties and can never get drunk because it is those actions that make them get raped. No drinking. No dress-up. No high heels. No make-up. Because the NATURAL STATE of a man is uncontrollable rapist. Yeah, good luck with that.

Actually, yes.  We're not so far removed from tribal hunting-gathering as we like to pretend.  There will always be people who seek to assert dominance over over those perceived to be weaker as a show of superiority, and every male, to an extent, has this hard-wired into his DNA.  It's basically the "Alpha Male" and "Beta Male" dynamic.  Some people will do whatever they want, to whomever they want, as long as it increases (or seems to increase) they're own personal power.  This is how human society has worked since the dawn of time.  We do a better job of dressing it up like civilization these days, but don't delude yourself into thinking for one second that there are still plenty of people out there who would happily piss on your corpse if it got them some sort of personal advantage.


I think most Farkers have played C.O.D. at one time or another, thanks.
 
2013-04-25 06:22:39 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Lady Indica: ciberido: One of the interesting things about a society in which rapists are convicted and put in prison and in which we have lots of social scientists who love to study human behavior is we actually have scientific answers to that age-old question.   And the scientific answer is no, dressing in a "slutty" fashion has nothing to do with your chance of being raped.

So now that we have that answer, rape apologists, being the intellectually-honest folks they are, can stop using that justification.

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What sort of rape scenarios did this science study?  Rape may be rape, but it occurs in different contexts.


Exactly - there's "rape" , and "rape rape", and "legitimate rape" - comes in more flavors than Kool-aid, it does.
 
2013-04-25 06:24:52 PM

QueenMamaBee: jackrazz: There IS such a thing as assumption of risk.  This by no means excuses a criminal, but why would you intentionally put yourself into a bad or dangerous situation?  Do you lock your doors at night before you go to bed?  How about locking your car when you walk away from it?  You do these things because it's dangerous not to do them.  Why would you then decide that it's a great idea to get plastered around a bunch of drunk strangers and hope that things will work out in the end?

But if she knows everyone there, she can get plastered. No such thing as acquaintance or date rape, right?



Let's face it.  Women know that getting plastered in public or in a group setting (mixed male/female) are more likely to get raped than those not getting plastered.  Just like I lock my car and walk purposefully through bad neighborhoods, I do not get hammered outside of safe places.  If someone mugs me or steals my car or rapes me, it's not my fault.  I'm still the idiot to failed to take some basics steps to mitigate the potential for loss whether it's to my car, my wallet or my vag.
 
2013-04-25 06:26:41 PM
*ugh* read that with all the words I meant to include in that 2nd sentance and you'll be fine.
 
2013-04-25 06:42:47 PM
KrustyKitten:
getting plastered in public or in a group setting...
lock my car and walk purposefully through bad neighborhoods...


How are these different? Oh, right! The victim knows people in the group setting! Which means that, to be a better analogy, it should be:
getting plastered in public or in a group setting...
lock my car and visit a friend's house...


So, if you visit your friend's house and they mug you or steal your car, are you still an idiot who failed to take basic steps to mitigate it? And if so, what kind of friends do you have?
 
2013-04-25 06:42:58 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Egoy3k: ITG time.

Seriously why hasn't anybody kicked the shiat out of him? I mean with the number of unbalanced people in the world I find it so hard to believe that no father/boyfriend/husband/brother of a rape victim with anger control issues hasn't taken a hefty swing at a guy holding a sign like that.  Hell I'm a level headed guy and I had brief moment of rage when some asshat used the gap in traffic caused by an ambulance to pass me and 5 other cars yesterday.  How has this guy not encountered somebody willing to take a swing?

It's Arizona.  Most people agree with him.




It's Tucson, so maybe not so much. Mesa, yes, but not Tucson.
 
2013-04-25 07:00:33 PM

jso2897: BarkingUnicorn: Lady Indica: ciberido: One of the interesting things about a society in which rapists are convicted and put in prison and in which we have lots of social scientists who love to study human behavior is we actually have scientific answers to that age-old question.   And the scientific answer is no, dressing in a "slutty" fashion has nothing to do with your chance of being raped.

So now that we have that answer, rape apologists, being the intellectually-honest folks they are, can stop using that justification.

[oi40.tinypic.com image 615x637]

What sort of rape scenarios did this science study?  Rape may be rape, but it occurs in different contexts.

Exactly - there's "rape" , and "rape rape", and "legitimate rape" - comes in more flavors than Kool-aid, it does.


"Death is death" would not help keep people alive longer, nor would absolving people of responsibility for staying alive.
 
2013-04-25 07:14:13 PM

brap: styckx: What I always find weird about these campus stories is how well protected anyones rights are regardless of what they're doing or how shocking it is.. It's like "Oh look, that's how it's supposed to work in the real world"..

Yeah you don't see these guys doing this at the Cubbyhole or Meow Mix or even the local biker bar, they'd be spitting up bloody chicklets.


They're also happy to jump on atheists for "not protesting Islam enough", yet, oddly, they never seem to try to get converts in Iran...they're HERE, in what they insist is a "Christian Nation".  Well, then...go where you're needed.

Surely God will protect them  :)
 
2013-04-25 07:26:13 PM

zedster: Because People in power are Stupid: Oh yes, my alma mater replete with angry Mall preachers. (The grass strip between buildings is called "the Mall").

Oh Brother Jed, splits his time between UA in the winter and UW-Madison in the summer.
Lead to my friend always yelling "WHERE IS JESUS WHEN IT'S -10*?" when he passed him.

Once asked him what his shirt was made of, he said "polyester and cotton." I told him he wore a tunic made of two cloth and the bible said I must stone him to death. He flipped the fark out saying that part of the bible didn't apply to him, it was fun


Is he gone from Mizzou, or is it a different Brother Jed?
 
2013-04-25 07:39:47 PM

mayIFark: This is one topic that confuses me: I absolutely believe that it is not the woman's fault regardless of how dresses or acts or drinks or whatever.

Here is my question though, does those increase's one chance or not? In a perfect world it would not, but we live in a real world that is not perfect.

Who's fault it is, is after the fact (and we know for sure who's fault it is, just to emphasis, there is no question there). But that will not change the fact about the trouble that one have to go through.

Basically, if you keep the door open and things get stolen, it is still thief's fault, but you could reduce that chance by locking that door. Because, at the end of the day, you are the one who lost items.

Now, I don't know for sure, if any of those behavior actually increases the chance or not. If it does not, the whole argument is invalid.


Based on your logic, a "victim" of necrophilia deserved it because they were just lying there naked on the table?
 
2013-04-25 07:45:27 PM

Theaetetus: KrustyKitten:
getting plastered in public or in a group setting...
lock my car and walk purposefully through bad neighborhoods...

How are these different? Oh, right! The victim knows people in the group setting! Which means that, to be a better analogy, it should be:
getting plastered in public or in a group setting...
lock my car and visit a friend's house...

So, if you visit your friend's house and they mug you or steal your car, are you still an idiot who failed to take basic steps to mitigate it? And if so, what kind of friends do you have?


I bet those girls getting hammered with "friends" then gang raped by said friends, probalby thought at least some of those people where really their friends - at least when they showed up.

/friends
 
2013-04-25 07:47:44 PM
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2013-04-25 07:50:09 PM

snitramc: mayIFark: This is one topic that confuses me: I absolutely believe that it is not the woman's fault regardless of how dresses or acts or drinks or whatever.

Here is my question though, does those increase's one chance or not? In a perfect world it would not, but we live in a real world that is not perfect.

Who's fault it is, is after the fact (and we know for sure who's fault it is, just to emphasis, there is no question there). But that will not change the fact about the trouble that one have to go through.

Basically, if you keep the door open and things get stolen, it is still thief's fault, but you could reduce that chance by locking that door. Because, at the end of the day, you are the one who lost items.

Now, I don't know for sure, if any of those behavior actually increases the chance or not. If it does not, the whole argument is invalid.

Based on your logic, a "victim" of necrophilia deserved it because they were just lying there naked on the table?


Based on your comment, you just proved that you don't even know how to read. Read my previous comments, I was pretty clear about that. There was never any question about deserving or who's fault it is. The question was all about whether you can do/not do something to reduce your chance of being a victim.

/reading comprehension, its your friend.
 
2013-04-25 07:51:56 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Saxton, a junior studying classics and religious studies, said his sermon was meant to convey that "if you dress like a whore, act like a whore, you're probably going to get raped."

"I think that girls that dress and act like it," Saxton said, "they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they're pretty much asking for it."


I think what they meant was...

Saxton, an asshat, studying classics and religious studies, said his idiocy was meant to convey that "if you hold signs like a douche, act like a douche, you're probably going to get your ass kicked."

"I think that I'm a douche and act like it," Saxton said, "I should realize that I do have partial responsibility, because I believe that I'm pretty much asking for it."


Godammit! I was going to go with "asshole" instead of "douche", and "cockpunched" instead of "ass kicked".
 
2013-04-25 08:11:17 PM
When he's punched in the face by someone who's been raped I'll say, "I think that guys who dress and act like that and carry those signs, they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they're pretty much asking for it."
 
2013-04-25 08:21:11 PM
Saxton, a junior studying classics and religious studies, said his sermon was meant to convey that "if you dress like a whore, act like a whore, you're probably going to get raped."

He might also find that if you act like a dick, speak like a dick, you're probably going to get punched.
 
2013-04-25 08:38:16 PM

scalpod: When he's punched in the face by someone who's been raped I'll say, "I think that guys who dress and act like that and carry those signs, they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they're pretty much asking for it."


Yes. That would be correct.
 
2013-04-25 09:34:51 PM
Hasn't anyone ever heard of "Brother" Jed Smock?

He would yell hilarious things at students when preaching on campus, calling women whores, and fraternity men "homosexual masturbators", etc.  After students began picking mock oranges and throwing them at him, the universities ordered that all the trees be picked before he showed up each year.  He also hated fine arts students, lesbians, Mexicans and Jews.  His follower, and later wife, "Sister Cindy", had a hilarious pamphlet she would hand out claiming that she had been a "Disco Queen" before she had seen the light.

But I will hand it to Jed, he could keep up an outdoor preaching rant-scream for six hours straight.
 
2013-04-25 09:36:17 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Lady Indica: ciberido: One of the interesting things about a society in which rapists are convicted and put in prison and in which we have lots of social scientists who love to study human behavior is we actually have scientific answers to that age-old question.   And the scientific answer is no, dressing in a "slutty" fashion has nothing to do with your chance of being raped.

So now that we have that answer, rape apologists, being the intellectually-honest folks they are, can stop using that justification.

[oi40.tinypic.com image 615x637]

What sort of rape scenarios did this science study?  Rape may be rape, but it occurs in different contexts.


I gave you some links already.  Here's one more.
 
2013-04-25 09:41:53 PM

jso2897: BarkingUnicorn: Lady Indica: ciberido: One of the interesting things about a society in which rapists are convicted and put in prison and in which we have lots of social scientists who love to study human behavior is we actually have scientific answers to that age-old question.   And the scientific answer is no, dressing in a "slutty" fashion has nothing to do with your chance of being raped.

So now that we have that answer, rape apologists, being the intellectually-honest folks they are, can stop using that justification.

[oi40.tinypic.com image 615x637]

What sort of rape scenarios did this science study?  Rape may be rape, but it occurs in different contexts.

Exactly - there's "rape" , and "rape rape", and "legitimate rape" - comes in more flavors than Kool-aid, it does.


Good advice for women with questions about birth control.
 
2013-04-25 11:19:09 PM
Did we find his Fark handle yet?
 
2013-04-25 11:54:30 PM

jackrazz: scalpod: When he's punched in the face by someone who's been raped I'll say, "I think that guys who dress and act like that and carry those signs, they should realize that they do have partial responsibility, because I believe that they're pretty much asking for it."

Yes. That would be correct.


The problem is that no one who has been raped is going to hit that guy - they've already been victimized.  He's going to get hit by someone who already has a propensity for violence in settling their difference of opinion.

So it's entirely likely when he does get his well-deserved stomp-down he'll be a victim of the same kind of person that rapes people.

Maybe it will make him help respect victims more, but I doubt it.
 
2013-04-26 12:03:07 AM
Only a matter of time before this guy is arrested for actual sexual assault, probably of a minor.
 
2013-04-26 03:53:10 AM
Ick. Check his crawl space and don't put him in touch with any primordial evil.
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2013-04-26 04:47:51 AM

ChipNASA: timujin: oldernell: OK by me as long as he is the rapee.

I have to say, were he raped, I wouldn't feel the least bit bad.  I would probably chortle a bit.

I said with his sign.....
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No problem. SOMEBODY should Rape Him. He's just *asking* for it. He's apparently offering. (i.e "Rape" is a verb, you deserve to be able to rape, or have rape or "get your rape on"....ergo......"COME AT ME BRO!!!!"


I, personally, find him to be quite the hotty. I also have a fantasy about taking someone's virginity. Were he to come and protest here in Sweden....? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
 
2013-04-26 05:46:43 AM
Send him on a blind date with this here womyn:

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They'd make such a lovely couple.
 
2013-04-26 10:00:59 AM

magicgoo: Know this: It wasn't some intentional tease


To be fair, sometimes that's exactly what it is. I've known women who openly proclaimed to enjoy doing this to men.

Not saying they deserve rape of course. Just saying that sometimes they know precisely what they are doing and it is very intentional.
 
2013-04-26 01:27:51 PM
If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out.
If you can't keep it under control, cut it off.
 
2013-04-26 08:34:42 PM
No one deserves rape.
No one deserves sympathy for irresponsibility either.
 
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