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(NYPost)   More than 10% of the adults in New York City have diabetes. If only there was some kind of ban on large, sugary drinks   (nypost.com) divider line 163
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2013-04-25 12:09:45 PM
No, subby. That's not 'murican.
 
2013-04-25 12:09:50 PM
Smug must cause diabeetus, too.
 
2013-04-25 12:11:26 PM
Is that 10% per capita or per pound?
 
2013-04-25 12:11:42 PM
If it came from a source with even a smidgen of journalistic integrity I would be scandalized and outraged but as it stands my bullshiate detector is doing backflips.
 
2013-04-25 12:11:51 PM
What would such a ban accomplish, subby?
 
2013-04-25 12:12:02 PM
If only people had to be responsible for their own actions... we don't want that though, then the Democratic party would cease to exist.

Step 1:  Drink lots of soda
Step 2:  Get diabeetus
Step 3:  ???
Step 4:  profit (free health care omgggg jackpot)
 
2013-04-25 12:12:16 PM
We should round up these fatties and force them into camps and force them to exercise while at the same time reducing their calorie intake, Type 2 diabetes has been shown to respond very well to weight loss. Maybe we should call them Freedom through exercise camps.
 
2013-04-25 12:13:10 PM
cdn.theatlanticwire.com
 
2013-04-25 12:14:28 PM
I can't even imagine that if it's true....10% is a fairly significant percentage. I've only ever met one diabeetus person ever, and I live in Scotland (aka The Sick Man of Europe) so I should know.
 
2013-04-25 12:14:47 PM
Of course, to make a difference, we're going to have to ban most other carbohydrates and sugars too.

And go after the folks who told us we needed to eat more of them.

Which will be convenient, since they're pretty much the same people who told us we need to cut back on sugar now.
 
2013-04-25 12:15:26 PM
If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.
 
2013-04-25 12:16:25 PM

FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.


There are plenty of valid, reasonable arguments about the availability of affordable, healthy options for inner-city residents.

This is not one of them.
 
2013-04-25 12:18:25 PM

Slaves2Darkness: We should round up these fatties and force them into camps and force them to exercise while at the same time reducing their calorie intake, Type 2 diabetes has been shown to respond very well to weight loss. Maybe we should call them Freedom through exercise camps.


Übung macht frei?
 
2013-04-25 12:19:20 PM
I love getting a seat on the subway and then a sweaty fat person gets on and I don't give them my seat.
 
2013-04-25 12:19:38 PM
This is news?  According the the American Diabetes Association, 11.3% of the American population 20 yrs and older have diabetes.  Sounds like New York is the norm.
 
2013-04-25 12:20:08 PM

FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.


lol
 
2013-04-25 12:20:15 PM

Slaves2Darkness: We should round up these fatties and force them into camps and force them to exercise while at the same time reducing their calorie intake, Type 2 diabetes has been shown to respond very well to weight loss. Maybe we should call them Freedom through exercise camps.


Your newsletter. I'd like to subscribe.
 
2013-04-25 12:20:43 PM
i.imgur.com

Can you guess what the percentages are in reference to?
 
2013-04-25 12:22:11 PM

FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.


If only that increased "living wage" didn't increase the prices of everything you buy, including healthy food. Also, note that there are no fat middle-class or rich people.
 
2013-04-25 12:22:23 PM
Or... we could pressure our politicians to stand up to the Corn lobby, who thanks to government subsidies for planting corn (because it was going to make us less energy dependent) shove a diabeetus inciting product into just about every processed food sold in the country.

1) Remove subidies
2) See less corn syrup in processed food
3) See price of processed food rise
4) See healthier options now equally affordable
5) See diabeetus rates drop over time

No wait, that would take money from politician pockets and be less visible stunt legislation for "Oh look at me I'm fighting fatties!" politicians.
 
2013-04-25 12:22:52 PM

soup: [i.imgur.com image 497x288]

Can you guess what the percentages are in reference to?


BCS appearances?
 
2013-04-25 12:23:49 PM

Phineas: If only people had to be responsible for their own actions... we don't want that though, then the Democratic party would cease to exist.


Like tea-tards protesting to "Keep government hands off my Medicare"?
 
2013-04-25 12:23:50 PM

Lord_Dubu: fighting fatties


Accidental band name?
 
2013-04-25 12:23:59 PM

GoldSpider: FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.

There are plenty of valid, reasonable arguments about the availability of affordable, healthy options for inner-city residents.

This is not one of them.


The small Walmart community stores would be great for inner-city food deserts, but that would be bad because Walmart.
 
2013-04-25 12:24:24 PM

skullkrusher: FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.

lol


Don't laugh at me! You know I'm serious :)
 
2013-04-25 12:24:25 PM

lohphat: Like tea-tards protesting to "Keep government hands off my Medicare"?


Fix old no new.
 
2013-04-25 12:24:45 PM

magic_patch: I can't even imagine that if it's true....10% is a fairly significant percentage. I've only ever met one diabeetus person ever, and I live in Scotland (aka The Sick Man of Europe) so I should know.


Unless you're making them sew stars on their lapels (hey, there' s an idea for Bloomie!), how would you know? Diabetics don't typically announce their status to every random stranger they meet.
 
2013-04-25 12:25:25 PM

bangmaid: Slaves2Darkness: We should round up these fatties and force them into camps and force them to exercise while at the same time reducing their calorie intake, Type 2 diabetes has been shown to respond very well to weight loss. Maybe we should call them Freedom through exercise camps.

Your newsletter. I'd like to subscribe.


He doesn't have a newsletter, but he wrote an interesting book while he was in prison.
 
2013-04-25 12:25:45 PM

FarkedOver: skullkrusher: FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.

lol

Don't laugh at me! You know I'm serious :)


I know! That's what's so adorbs! Totes farking adorbs. And presh too
 
2013-04-25 12:26:23 PM
soup:
Can you guess what the percentages are in reference to?

Obesity, obviously.

However, another way to describe it is "what happens when you follow the early-1980s government-designed food pyramid, AKA nutritional pseudoscience."

Of course, those obesity percentages are measured with BMI - which is another weight-oriented pseudoscience that the government still uses.

/we're fat in the US - just fat in a different way than most think
//and the best way to not be fat is to ignore the government's old advice
 
2013-04-25 12:26:49 PM

FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.


You mean if they had to buy groceries with their OWN money?
 
2013-04-25 12:26:52 PM

brap: If it came from a source with even a smidgen of journalistic integrity I would be scandalized and outraged but as it stands my bullshiate detector is doing backflips.


i34.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-25 12:27:46 PM
Why does soda exist?
What purpose does it serve?
 
2013-04-25 12:28:18 PM

cirby: soup:
Can you guess what the percentages are in reference to?

Obesity, obviously.

However, another way to describe it is "what happens when you follow the early-1980s government-designed food pyramid, AKA nutritional pseudoscience."


You actually think that our problem is the people too rigorously followed nutritional guidelines? Are you high?
 
2013-04-25 12:28:34 PM

Lord_Dubu: Or... we could pressure our politicians to stand up to the Corn lobby, who thanks to government subsidies for planting corn (because it was going to make us less energy dependent) shove a diabeetus inciting product into just about every processed food sold in the country.

1) Remove subidies
2) See less corn syrup in processed food
3) See price of processed food rise
4) See healthier options now equally affordable
5) See diabeetus rates drop over time

No wait, that would take money from politician pockets and be less visible stunt legislation for "Oh look at me I'm fighting fatties!" politicians.


Yeah because the mayor of NYC has the power to introduce federal legislation. And damn him for trying to do anything at all within his power to try to help.

I agree that only banning certain sized sugary beverages is dumb, though. Maybe a tax on those drinks would be a better alternative, but the soft drink companies fight that tooth and nail.
 
2013-04-25 12:28:38 PM

puppetmaster745: The small Walmart community stores would be great for inner-city food deserts, but that would be bad because Walmart.


That's a much bigger problem than the availability of sugary drinks, but don't try to tell Bloomberg there are problems in his city that can't be solved with the banhammer.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:23 PM

skullkrusher: FarkedOver: skullkrusher: FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.

lol

Don't laugh at me! You know I'm serious :)

I know! That's what's so adorbs! Totes farking adorbs. And presh too


That is only one of the actions I would take it if were Chairman of the People's Republic of the United States.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:52 PM

Do the needful: FarkedOver: If only people were given a living wage and could afford to make healthier decisions.  That would be nice.

You mean if they had to buy groceries with their OWN money?


Isn't South Carolina's governor trying to start a "only used for healthy foods" mandate for their state foodstamp/SNAP recipients? I don't recall where I heard or saw that. May be BS.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:56 PM
The way that a substanital part of the US population is plunging gleefully into morbid obesity and all of the awful diseases obesity carries with it, at a time when the baby boomer generation is nearing retirement, I think it's inevitable that our hospitals, nursing homes, clinics, will become essentially suicide parlors, even if we try to cover it up with euphemisms.  It's either that or we keep 30 million people barely alive at a cost of $30,000 a month per person, and their only reason to remain alive will be to see what kind of bacon double cheeseburger is on the menu for lunch.

It's not going to be a pleasant future.
 
2013-04-25 12:32:56 PM
no one has a gun to your head when you select the 64 oz. UBER-GULP!   Adults should be able to make their own choices, instead of having the gubment tell them what choices to make.
 
2013-04-25 12:34:41 PM

ManateeGag: no one has a gun to your head when you select the 64 oz. UBER-GULP!   Adults should be able to make their own choices, instead of having the gubment tell them what choices to make.


No, but the government has a vested interest in keeping it citizens healthy for a variety of reasons.  But don't let me tell you that, just go ahead and see what the joint chiefs have to say about it.
 
2013-04-25 12:35:23 PM

ManateeGag: no one has a gun to your head when you select the 64 oz. UBER-GULP!   Adults should be able to make their own choices, instead of having the gubment tell them what choices to make.


The problem is the rest of us have to pay for their healthcare costs via higher premiums. They don't feel the impact, we do.
 
2013-04-25 12:35:49 PM
Hows that low fat / high carb diet working for you, tubby?
 
2013-04-25 12:37:07 PM

brap: If it came from a source with even a smidgen of journalistic integrity I would be scandalized and outraged but as it stands my bullshiate detector is doing backflips.


This "I won't believe it because it's in _____" thing is getting old.  FTA:

The figures are grim: The Health Department said the most recent numbers for 2011 showed nearly 650,000 adult New Yorkers said they had the disease - an increase of about 200,000 since 2002.
The 10.5 percent figure was the first time the rate has hit double digits. It was just 4.2 percent from 1993 to 1995, and 9.3 percent in 2010.
"What's most alarming is that more than 200,000 New Yorkers are walking around with this serious disease and don't even know they're at risk for blindness, amputations, or even worse - premature death," said Health Commissioner Dr. Thomas Farley. "We must work to end this crisis."


Do you believe it now?
 
2013-04-25 12:37:14 PM

lohphat: ManateeGag: no one has a gun to your head when you select the 64 oz. UBER-GULP!   Adults should be able to make their own choices, instead of having the gubment tell them what choices to make.

The problem is the rest of us have to pay for their healthcare costs via higher premiums. They don't feel the impact, we do.


so no Big Gulps for the poors, extra large slushies with double the syrup for the rest of us! Woooooooooooo!
 
2013-04-25 12:38:00 PM

lohphat: ManateeGag: no one has a gun to your head when you select the 64 oz. UBER-GULP!   Adults should be able to make their own choices, instead of having the gubment tell them what choices to make.

The problem is the rest of us have to pay for their healthcare costs via higher premiums. They don't feel the impact, we do.


Medical economists are divided on this issue, noting that healthy lifestyles spread costs over more years, but end up costing about the same as unhealthy lifestyles that result in early deaths.
 
2013-04-25 12:38:13 PM

Lord_Dubu: 2) See less corn syrup in processed food


I've started to see more products that make of point of mentioning that they contain no HFCS.  Salad dressings, ketchup, bread.  They usually don't cost much more, if any at all, versus their counterparts.

So, if there is a growing market for people trying to avoid HFCS, let's hope this is reflected in product cost and availability.
 
2013-04-25 12:38:53 PM

lohphat: The problem is the rest of us have to pay for their healthcare costs via higher premiums. They don't feel the impact, we do.


I'd wager that people with diabetes, like smokers, pay a higher insurance premium.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:22 PM

FarkedOver: No, but the government has a vested interest in keeping it citizens healthy for a variety of reasons.


So.... start regulating personal diet and exercise habits?
 
2013-04-25 12:40:48 PM

Loose_Stool: Why does soda exist?
What purpose does it serve?


The tv says to drink it when I am thirsty on a hot day or, you know, just hanging around with my friends and being spontaneous!
 
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