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2013-04-25 12:17:43 PM
... and it's their fault if they fail at life.
 
2013-04-25 12:20:07 PM
So go down to your Job centre - I bet you'll see
Iranian students get handouts for free
and drug-crazed punk rockers cavort and caress
In the interview booths in the DHSS...
 
2013-04-25 12:23:48 PM
Inconceivable.

I wonder where they got their unrealistic expectations from.
 
2013-04-25 12:27:38 PM
OMG, like Nuh UH really? UR so much 8er. Icanhasasad# UNFAIR!! FML etc.
 
2013-04-25 12:29:02 PM
STFU, GAFAJ!
 
2013-04-25 12:29:35 PM
Here's the actual report TFA talks about, since apparently they don't have enough tech-savvy young people who told them you should link to these things:  http://www.cipd.co.uk/publicpolicy/policy-reports/mars-venus-jobs-mis m atch.aspx
 
2013-04-25 12:30:14 PM
*I haz inklooded piksure

i36.tinypic.com

Peggy McGee

--------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------

Dear Ms. McGee,

   We have spell check. Can you start tomorrow?


/Shamelessly stolen from FWD; fwd>>>.FWD.RE.FWD email
 
2013-04-25 12:30:25 PM
Its the mail so it must be true.

I'm sure that its not a completely made up article designed to rouse the 30-50 year old rabble about "kids these days" while drawing page views and ad clicks.
 
2013-04-25 12:30:35 PM
This would be more amusing if it wasn't something I actually had to deal with on a daily basis.
 
2013-04-25 12:30:43 PM
I've heard the same thing regarding medical school applicants. Supposedly the newest generation of applicants lacks professionalism and appropriate interpersonal skills.
 
2013-04-25 12:31:06 PM
It's like a fark breeding pool.
/that was mean
//and mostly untrue
///mostly
 
2013-04-25 12:31:22 PM
I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience to bring into a company where they can start at a front-line position and if they show promise/ambition/drive, there are upwardly mobile options. Problem is, I have to go through 50 applications to find 5 that don't have egregious spelling mistakes, are in 6 different fonts or, my favorite, "Bachelors in Sociology from ::insert local university::, salary requirement: 65k+". Of those 5, 3 blow the phone interview because they obviously had someone write it for them. Then I have a choice of 2 to bring in to meet and HOPEFULLY they don't show up in jeans and a Seattle Mariner's jersey.

/Office has 96% of staff under 30, self included
 
2013-04-25 12:31:33 PM

LandOfChocolate: Its the mail so it must be true.

I'm sure that its not a completely made up article designed to rouse the 30-50 year old rabble about "kids these days" while drawing page views and ad clicks.


/thread over
 
2013-04-25 12:31:39 PM
Yeahhhh.... I always kind of wonder what the younger generation is thinking. "Imma gonna interview at a prestigious company, run by boomers, and Imma gonna wear my regular street clothes, lol". And they wonder why the can't get in anywhere but grease trap person at McDonalds.
 
2013-04-25 12:32:06 PM
Meanwhile, I can't even find a job at the gas station around the corner.  Thanks, illiterate teens!

At least the fad of ~~~~AlTeRnAtInG CaPs AnD TiLdEs~~~~ died.
 
2013-04-25 12:32:13 PM
Oh is it time for another Daily Fail "God I hate those lazy filthy scumsucking welfare queens so much, GOD I could just SMASH their FACES in, I HATE them I HATE them I HATE them" thread again?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-04-25 12:33:10 PM

Kibbler: Oh is it time for another Daily Fail "God I hate those lazy filthy scumsucking welfare queens so much, GOD I could just SMASH their FACES in, I HATE them I HATE them I HATE them" thread again?

/DNRTFA


No.
 
2013-04-25 12:33:16 PM

A Shambling Mound: This would be more amusing if it wasn't something I actually had to deal with on a daily basis.


Go on...
 
2013-04-25 12:34:28 PM

Kibbler: Oh is it time for another Daily Fail "God I hate those lazy filthy scumsucking welfare queens so much, GOD I could just SMASH their FACES in, I HATE them I HATE them I HATE them" thread again?

/DNRTFA


It's the requisite "kids these days are illiterate, etc".
 
2013-04-25 12:35:16 PM

MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience to bring into a company where they can start at a front-line position and if they show promise/ambition/drive, there are upwardly mobile options. Problem is, I have to go through 50 applications to find 5 that don't have egregious spelling mistakes, are in 6 different fonts or, my favorite, "Bachelors in Sociology from ::insert local university::, salary requirement: 65k+". Of those 5, 3 blow the phone interview because they obviously had someone write it for them. Then I have a choice of 2 to bring in to meet and HOPEFULLY they don't show up in jeans and a Seattle Mariner's jersey.

/Office has 96% of staff under 30, self included


So you're not having trouble filling jobs, but there are just a lot of stupid people who apply and the signal to noise ratio is high?

blogs.browardpalmbeach.com
 
2013-04-25 12:35:48 PM

pxlboy: Kibbler: Oh is it time for another Daily Fail "God I hate those lazy filthy scumsucking welfare queens so much, GOD I could just SMASH their FACES in, I HATE them I HATE them I HATE them" thread again?

/DNRTFA

It's the requisite "kids these days are illiterate, etc".


OK I stand corrected.  Trigger-happy I guess.
 
2013-04-25 12:36:40 PM
Entire article in four words: GET OFF MY LAWN.
 
2013-04-25 12:37:00 PM
Well, gee, what industries are glamorized all throughout public culture and have reporters consistently drooling over how much the top stars in those fields make?

Never mind that for every Angelina Jolie, there are 5,000 Constance Browns who you've never heard of, and largely work as waitresses.


But on the other side, can you blame the kiddies who dream of working in culture and sports?

Seeing that industry has largely shown itself to be exploitative of workers, in their salaries and work hours.

Seeing that government has shown itself to be more concerned over 'corporate wellbeing' rather than personal wellbeing?

Seeing that our culture largely ignores working up to something? (IE, you only get famous when you do something, and more often the media treats people like they were born perfectly formed-or discovered that way)


In short, try thinking about how you're shiatting on people's motivations before you go around complaining about their ambitions.
 
2013-04-25 12:37:12 PM
speaknstomp.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-25 12:37:48 PM

dv-ous: MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience to bring into a company where they can start at a front-line position and if they show promise/ambition/drive, there are upwardly mobile options. Problem is, I have to go through 50 applications to find 5 that don't have egregious spelling mistakes, are in 6 different fonts or, my favorite, "Bachelors in Sociology from ::insert local university::, salary requirement: 65k+". Of those 5, 3 blow the phone interview because they obviously had someone write it for them. Then I have a choice of 2 to bring in to meet and HOPEFULLY they don't show up in jeans and a Seattle Mariner's jersey.

/Office has 96% of staff under 30, self included

So you're not having trouble filling jobs, but there are just a lot of stupid people who apply and the signal to noise ratio is high?

[blogs.browardpalmbeach.com image 393x360]


The 'signal to noise' ratio is actually creating jobs. Manager's/Director's are having to waste so much time on sifting through the crap, companies are expanding/creating their recruiting departments sooner than normal to be able to weed through the crap.

Basic office jobs aren't hard to fill, skilled medical ones are a pain.
 
2013-04-25 12:39:13 PM
The storey is definately not bias. People have spelling problem's and that's not the worse. They could of listed lot's of other things but their are mabey to many.

/shudder
 
2013-04-25 12:39:15 PM
s10.postimg.org

Seems qualified
 
2013-04-25 12:39:38 PM

MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience


FTFY

Best of luck with that.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:06 PM
Many employers are desperate to recruit, but say they are confronted by candidates who apply for jobs in 'text speak' and cannot even turn up punctually for an interview, according to the report from the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.

What they really meant was, "It happened maybe once or twice that someone used text speak on a resume". Writing the sentence in that way indicates that it's a common and widespread problem. Which it isn't. Thank you, anonymous Daily Fail Reporter.

Many young people do not read or understand the eligibility criteria for the jobs they apply for, employers said.

If they don't understand a job description, it's largely because the company itself isn't doing a proper job explaining it. Companies often have generic job descriptions to give themselves flexibility as to massage the job to match a qualified candidate. Every company I've worked for does this. Companies expect you to walk into the door and ask what exactly the job entails, because the job description tells you fark-all about what you'll be doing on a daily basis.

Many have a 'poor knowledge' of the company that they are applying to work for, and appear to have failed to research their potential future employer.Others are 'unable to answer why they want the job and what they want to do.'

For somebody with no experience in a particular industry, what exactly do you expect? There's no way a kid fresh out of school can tell you what they'll think of the job, or how their career will progress in a field they haven't even entered yet. And why does anyone want a job, really? Because I don't want to be a farking bum, that's why you nitwit.
 
2013-04-25 12:42:07 PM

midigod: MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring

younger people, preferably college grads with little experience

FTFY

Best of luck with that.


It's working out well so far buddy. It's easier to train people with no experience than to untrain people with bad habits. It's allowed us to move to 6 states and double our workforce in 12 months, so I'm sorry we don't fit into your 'doomed for failure' mold.
 
2013-04-25 12:42:08 PM

MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience to bring into a company where they can start at a front-line position and if they show promise/ambition/drive, there are upwardly mobile options. Problem is, I have to go through 50 applications to find 5 that don't have egregious spelling mistakes, are in 6 different fonts or, my favorite, "Bachelors in Sociology from ::insert local university::, salary requirement: 65k+". Of those 5, 3 blow the phone interview because they obviously had someone write it for them. Then I have a choice of 2 to bring in to meet and HOPEFULLY they don't show up in jeans and a Seattle Mariner's jersey.

/Office has 96% of staff under 30, self included


My step-mother runs a company in DC and she has noticed a change over the 25 years she has run the place. New hires come in with fewer skills, and expect more for less work, and she does work with some very bright people.

Nowadays during their 6 month post-hire review about 70% of them list "being on time almost everyday" as a reason that they are valuable employees and deserve a pay bump.

/she offered me a job out of college. I told her even though I would have been a good fit, I didn't want people thinking nepotism was the only reason I was hired.
//then the economy collapsed
///still kicking myself
 
2013-04-25 12:43:04 PM
"Well, the world needs ditch diggers too!"

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-25 12:44:20 PM
I don't care what the fad or trend or how much time passes and how "advanced" our culture gets.
I, nor my company, will never hire you if you come in tattoo'd, pierced multiple times in places other than your ears, if your hair is more than one color, or if it's in a mowhawk or some other outrageous cut...
OR...if you think dressing in 70's style polyester clothing complete with WHITE shoes, WHITE belt is cool and hip. Same thing if you wear skinny suits or farkin sandals to the interview.
You don't get our jobs!!!
 
2013-04-25 12:44:40 PM
What the applicants might look like:

i.telegraph.co.uk

What happened to you Great Britain?
 
2013-04-25 12:44:45 PM
So, 15 and 16 year old kids want jobs in popular culture?  Color me surprised and spank my bottom!
 
2013-04-25 12:46:06 PM
A few years ago I managed a store, and while the resumes were fine, the cover letters were an abomination. I recall a couple of "thnx," and "@." Mind you, I think that reality TV is a bigger influence on young people. The whole easy lifestyle and high drama is pretty common. One girl in an interview referred to her "babydaddy." I ended up hiring an old lady in her 60's solely based on the fact she could formulate a sentence.
 
2013-04-25 12:46:10 PM

radarlove: Meanwhile, I can't even find a job at the gas station around the corner.  Thanks, illiterate teens!

At least the fad of ~~~~AlTeRnAtInG CaPs AnD TiLdEs~~~~ died.


No, now it's all #hastags

#OMG#I#cant#believe#you#didnt#know#that#job#life#wut#lol
 
2013-04-25 12:51:45 PM
Clearly this is all the fault of the young people.  In no way are their parents, the schools, or the media in any way culpable.
 
2013-04-25 12:54:15 PM
Lankester was right, we are going the wrong way.
 
2013-04-25 12:54:46 PM

tortilla burger: Many employers are desperate to recruit, but say they are confronted by candidates who apply for jobs in 'text speak' and cannot even turn up punctually for an interview, according to the report from the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.

What they really meant was, "It happened maybe once or twice that someone used text speak on a resume". Writing the sentence in that way indicates that it's a common and widespread problem. Which it isn't. Thank you, anonymous Daily Fail Reporter.

Many young people do not read or understand the eligibility criteria for the jobs they apply for, employers said.

If they don't understand a job description, it's largely because the company itself isn't doing a proper job explaining it. Companies often have generic job descriptions to give themselves flexibility as to massage the job to match a qualified candidate. Every company I've worked for does this. Companies expect you to walk into the door and ask what exactly the job entails, because the job description tells you fark-all about what you'll be doing on a daily basis.

Many have a 'poor knowledge' of the company that they are applying to work for, and appear to have failed to research their potential future employer.Others are 'unable to answer why they want the job and what they want to do.'

For somebody with no experience in a particular industry, what exactly do you expect? There's no way a kid fresh out of school can tell you what they'll think of the job, or how their career will progress in a field they haven't even entered yet. And why does anyone want a job, really? Because I don't want to be a farking bum, that's why you nitwit.


No, but it doesn't take a genius to Google the name of the company at which they are going in  for an
interview. Maybe learn a little bit about their backstory, get a feel for the tenor of the company, etc...and
actually give some thought as to how their personality and skills can fit into that scope.
 
2013-04-25 12:55:04 PM
Media as in "standing in front of a camera (or, more desirably, sitting at an anchor desk), reading verbatim what was recently posted online by ESPN, Google or Yahoo.  An understanding of the words coming out of their mouth is highly optional."  And a new batch of them are due out after graduation next month.
 
2013-04-25 12:55:56 PM

Phony_Soldier: A Shambling Mound: This would be more amusing if it wasn't something I actually had to deal with on a daily basis.

Go on...


I hire people. Many people who apply for jobs are idiots, as described in the article. Idiots are not amusing.
 
2013-04-25 12:57:17 PM

MichiganFTL: dv-ous: MichiganFTL: I prefer hiring younger people, preferably college grads with little experience to bring into a company where they can start at a front-line position and if they show promise/ambition/drive, there are upwardly mobile options. Problem is, I have to go through 50 applications to find 5 that don't have egregious spelling mistakes, are in 6 different fonts or, my favorite, "Bachelors in Sociology from ::insert local university::, salary requirement: 65k+". Of those 5, 3 blow the phone interview because they obviously had someone write it for them. Then I have a choice of 2 to bring in to meet and HOPEFULLY they don't show up in jeans and a Seattle Mariner's jersey.

/Office has 96% of staff under 30, self included

So you're not having trouble filling jobs, but there are just a lot of stupid people who apply and the signal to noise ratio is high?

[blogs.browardpalmbeach.com image 393x360]

The 'signal to noise' ratio is actually creating jobs. Manager's/Director's are having to waste so much time on sifting through the crap, companies are expanding/creating their recruiting departments sooner than normal to be able to weed through the crap.

Basic office jobs aren't hard to fill, skilled medical ones are a pain.


Waste destroys jobs; it does not create them.
 
2013-04-25 12:58:28 PM
OMG DLOD AT A SBBQ PMC LOL
 
2013-04-25 12:58:28 PM
The beauty of this of course is that if you can speak well, spell, can dress nicely, and not look like a walking hardware store, you will be shoved up to the front of the line when you go to get a job.
 
2013-04-25 01:00:56 PM
I used to do hiring for a company.  I hated it.  Most people, you call, offering a job interview, they're happy and excited.  Some act like it's an honor for me to even speak to them, and want the job interview over the phone.  The interviews were fun, mostly.  Some applications were horrible.  Anyone with text speak on their application were given the five minute and out the door interview.  Anyone who answered their phone during the interview was also shown the door.

Worse applicant ever: She was a felon, and I asked her about her felony.  She explained to me that her husband and been abusing her kids, both physically and sexually, and she had turned a blind eye to it, but when the police finally got involved, her husband sold her out as well and she spent some time in prison for it, but her husband was still in prison and was eagerly awaiting his release.  I asked "He did that to your children, and you ignored it, and are still married to him and can't wait for him to get out?"  I then ended the interview and told her get out.
 
2013-04-25 01:00:57 PM
I find this hard to BeLiEvE.
 
2013-04-25 01:02:39 PM
I just went through this. I tried to hire a data entry person and the most of the replies I got lacked a resume and then the ones I did contact by phone interview spent most of the call telling me what they needed (eg. two weeks off to vacation with the family, different hours than what I was offering etc...) I cancelled the opening.
 
2013-04-25 01:05:52 PM
Did you see the entire column of celebrity gossip on the right side of the page? Christ, there were pics of James van der Beek just pushing a baby stroller.  Hope Sylvester's getting over his dog getting killed.

/Wonder why the kids are vapid.
//OOOOoooh, shiny object!
 
2013-04-25 01:05:56 PM

pxlboy: LandOfChocolate: Its the mail so it must be true.

I'm sure that its not a completely made up article designed to rouse the 30-50 year old rabble about "kids these days" while drawing page views and ad clicks.

/thread over


THIS

Unless you actually read the document that Arkanaut linked to.  Then the Daily Mail is pretty much correct.
 
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