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2013-04-25 02:07:14 PM
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demonocracy21: This is a partisan issue too?

Republicans want 55 mph and Democrats want 45 mph to stay?


It's a geography issue.  It goes through an influential neighborhood that insisted it be treated as a parkway.  So when it was built, they did a lot of landscaping and put the speed limit at 45 mph, even though it's limited access.  The people that live north and south of that section and actually have to drive on it want it treated as an interstate.  The issue comes before the state legislature every year with no change.

Usually the police patrol it only when the downtown folks complain enough.  Everywhere else in the Twin Cities interstates have a 60 mph limit.
2013-04-25 02:06:05 PM
2 votes:
Laws and sausage.

That said, given that the speed limit is entirely based on NIMBYism and a sympathetic judge, rather than engineering reasons, this is just going to be a bonanza for cops. Tickets with no points for less than 10 over? Removes every incentive to give anyone a break.
2013-04-25 07:54:24 PM
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justtray: I've driven that stretch many times.

This is the equivilent of the fallen over chair from the Eastcoast earthquakes.

Get back to me when you've seen real civil engineering fails.


You mean the 35W bridge a few years back?
2013-04-25 03:36:34 PM
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Good Behavior Day: demonocracy21: This is a partisan issue too?

It's a geography issue.  It goes through an influential neighborhood that insisted it be treated as a parkway.  So when it was built, they did a lot of landscaping and put the speed limit at 45 mph, even though it's limited access.  The people that live north and south of that section and actually have to drive on it want it treated as an interstate.  The issue comes before the state legislature every year with no change.



That sounds a lot like what happened here in Kansas City with US-71, except for the opposite reason.   A freeway upgrade had been planned for decades, but the neighborhoods it ran through were largely poor and black.  They filed a lawsuit citing discrimination and won, so a portion of it had to be built as a manicured parkway with a 45mph speed limit and traffic lights installed at 3 intersections.

The roadway was finished in the last decade, and immediately the three intersections became the region's deadliest with a tremendous amount of crashes.   Several pedestrians have been killed trying to cross here as well.   Pretty much everyone now wants it turned into a full freeway, but because of the court order from 30 years ago the original neighborhood groups will have to file a new lawsuit to make that happen.

Last year US-71 became I-49, but I-49 can't be connected to downtown because of this parkway portion.

http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/road-rage/Content?oid=2177879
2013-04-25 01:31:10 PM
1 votes:
Welcome to West Texas.
You wanna drive fast 'cause it's pretty damn boring.

blog.motorists.org
2013-04-25 01:17:57 PM
1 votes:
Just a couple miles south of here, when you're traveling north, it goes from 70 mph to 55 mph.

45mph is just farking ridiculous for an interstate, not like I've ever actually seen someone go below 45mph on this stretch, but I never understood the logic behind it.
2013-04-25 12:57:04 PM
1 votes:
the speed  limit on the portion of I-35 in Austin should be posted as "Slow Crawl" as you do nothing but barely move on the damn thing.
2013-04-25 12:48:42 PM
1 votes:
It's pretty stupid that that stretch of interstate has such a low speed limit. That said, meh.
 
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