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(The New Yorker)   After the tragedy in Boston and the new detente with New York, will Yankees fans ever learn to hate the Red Sox again? Probably   (newyorker.com) divider line 122
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2013-04-25 03:04:47 PM

Nana's Vibrator: The hate only really comes out when both teams are good.  So, a little later this year, if the Sox keep it up  and the Yanks get healthy again and stay up there in the standings, the answer is beanball.  And I will watch closely for the first person who tries to fight Youkilis.


If the benches cleared I would expect Youk to go into the stands and choke out anybody who looks like Bobby Valentine. I'd also expect Aceves to drive in from Pawtucket two hours after the brawl started to threaten the bullpen catcher with a cricket bat.

/Not sure which team's bullpen catcher
//The anticipation is killing me though
 
2013-04-25 03:07:07 PM
Sure, I have sympathy for the city.  Why should that translate into any liking of the Red Sox?  Give me a break.

All I need to do to dislike the Red Sox is just watch the Ken Burns Baseball series again and listen to all the fanatical fan BS devoted to the Red Sox on that show.  Bleah, it's a like a frigging religion.
 
2013-04-25 03:09:12 PM

SirEattonHogg: Sure, I have sympathy for the city.  Why should that translate into any liking of the Red Sox?  Give me a break.

All I need to do to dislike the Red Sox is just watch the Ken Burns Baseball series again and listen to all the fanatical fan BS devoted to the Red Sox on that show.  Bleah, it's a like a frigging religion.


Rats all jumped ship last year.  It is back to being a cult.

Nana's Vibrator: What I don't get is how anyone can assert that the Yankees play victim knowing the Mets are in the very same city.


I have a soft spot in my heart for the Mets.
 
2013-04-25 03:09:56 PM
And c'mon, let's get real.  Red Sox versus Yankees is such a bulls--t rivalry.

The real modern day rivalry is the Giants and Dodgers.
 
2013-04-25 03:11:17 PM

Carn: *yawn*
Yankees suck.  Red Sox can suck it too.  Go Orioles.


Nobody cares about the Orioles since Cal retired.

SirEattonHogg: Bleah, it's a like a frigging religion.


like?

/LET'S GO RED SOX!
 
2013-04-25 03:12:16 PM

SirEattonHogg: All I need to do to dislike the Red Sox is just watch the Ken Burns Baseball series again and listen to all the fanatical fan BS devoted to the Red Sox on that show.  Bleah, it's a like a frigging religion.


You'd think nothing bad ever happened to Doris Kearns Goodwin except for the the 1967, 75 and 86 World Series.  Red Sox fan martyrdom syndrome at its finest.
 
2013-04-25 03:12:46 PM
As a life long Texan and a life long Yankees' fan I detest all  AL teams. Take that and suck on it Rangers and BoSox.
 
2013-04-25 03:17:18 PM

SirEattonHogg: And c'mon, let's get real.  Red Sox versus Yankees is such a bulls--t rivalry.

The real modern day rivalry tragedy is the Giants and Dodgers.

 
2013-04-25 03:18:14 PM
Of course we can keep that hate separate from the town, shiat.
 
2013-04-25 03:20:36 PM

Tr0mBoNe: I can hate the team and still be largely indifferent about the city.


I can hate the city and still be largely indifferent about the team.
 
2013-04-25 03:22:03 PM

Super Chronic: It's idiotic to even be asking this stupid question.  What happened in Boston was terrible.  It also had fark-all to do with any Boston sports teams, and in my view you trivialize it by putting those sports teams at the center of the discussion.


Wolf Blitzer Decks Boston Man Who Hasn't Been Healed By Red Sox Baseball
 
2013-04-25 03:23:05 PM

SirEattonHogg: And c'mon, let's get real.  Red Sox versus Yankees is such a bulls--t rivalry.

The real modern day rivalry is the Giants and Dodgers.


Are those the guys that play late at night after everybody has gone to bed? Good for them, giving people with insomnia something to watch.
 
2013-04-25 03:24:43 PM

Gunny Highway: What is it about NY that you dont like? I have never understood it.


I'm sure 95%+ of the time, when someone says "I hate NYC", they really mean "I hate the Yankees/Knicks/Rangers, etc".

If someone honestly hates NYC for the city itself, then it means they're a f*cking moron who probably couldn't be bothered to do even a modicum of research when they visited and just gawked at bright things in Times Square and got bumped into a few times because they stood still for too long. NYC is huge and there's more than one thing to do for anyone's likes.

I don't necessarily want to move there anytime soon either, but I have a blast when I go every time.
 
2013-04-25 03:25:02 PM

SirEattonHogg: And c'mon, let's get real.  Red Sox versus Yankees is such a bulls--t rivalry.

The real modern day rivalry is the Giants and Dodgers.


That is a scary rivalry. When I lived in SF for a few years, I went to a Giants-Dodgers game at AT&T Park. It was my first time at the stadium so I took some time after the game to walk around the outfield concourse, and saw approximately half a dozen straight-up fights happening between opposing fans. It was ridiculous.

Makes Cubs and White Sox/Cardinals fans seem like relative best friends.
 
2013-04-25 03:25:23 PM
The Red Sox?  I'm largely indifferent to them.  Their fans?  Well let's put it this way, their fans chant "Yankees Suck" at games between the Red Sox and the Royals.  They chant "Yankees Suck" at Bruins games. The Yankees are their world.  Sad, really.
 
2013-04-25 03:26:50 PM
If New York started treating Boston with anything but contempt and antipathy, it would ruin a perfectly good, properly defined relationship.

"Oftentimes the two cities are accusing each other of various levels of.... suckitude. But it is in situations like this that we realize it is clearly a sibling rivalry, and that we are your brothers and sisters." - Jon Stewart.

OK, That's enough. Now get back to talking trash.
 
2013-04-25 03:28:58 PM

eggrolls: If New York started treating Boston with anything but contempt and antipathy, it would ruin a perfectly good, properly defined relationship.

"Oftentimes the two cities are accusing each other of various levels of.... suckitude. But it is in situations like this that we realize it is clearly a sibling rivalry, and that we are your brothers and sisters." - Jon Stewart.

OK, That's enough. Now get back to talking trash.


Boston hates New York
New York hate Phili
...Phili hates everyone?
 
2013-04-25 03:29:00 PM
eh, nobody stopped hating the yankees after 9/11 either

say what you will about terrorism, racism, homophobia, etc. they're all more likely to change before sports fandom changes
 
2013-04-25 03:29:15 PM

Killer Cars: Gunny Highway: What is it about NY that you dont like? I have never understood it.

I'm sure 95%+ of the time, when someone says "I hate NYC", they really mean "I hate the Yankees/Knicks/Rangers, etc".

If someone honestly hates NYC for the city itself, then it means they're a f*cking moron who probably couldn't be bothered to do even a modicum of research when they visited and just gawked at bright things in Times Square and got bumped into a few times because they stood still for too long. NYC is huge and there's more than one thing to do for anyone's likes.

I don't necessarily want to move there anytime soon either, but I have a blast when I go every time.


Same. I have friends that live/lived there, and have had an awesome friggin time every time I've gone. I love having all those people around at all times, and stuff going on at all times, and just the big city feel. But I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a POS hole-in-the-wall apartment somewhere. It was bad enough in SF.

The only reason I can think of to hate NYC itself is if you're not a fan of cities in general. Which I can understand, they're not for everyone.
 
2013-04-25 03:29:35 PM

SirEattonHogg: The real modern day rivalry is the Giants and Dodgers.


FWIW, there's been so many stories about Dodgers fans that for the longest time, I just assume Giants fans were absolute saints in comparison. Then, the infamous Cousins/Posey home plate collision happened, and their absolutely infantile overreaction sort of leveled the playing field for me in terms of my perception of both.

/Dodgers fans tend to scare me more still
 
2013-04-25 03:31:23 PM

Car_Ramrod: The only reason I can think of to hate NYC itself is if you're not a fan of cities in general. Which I can understand, they're not for everyone.


Oh, I get that too, but again, most reasonable "I prefer to live in the country" people can appreciate a big city for what it is; enjoy a view plays or concerts over a weekend, then just go home and live their lives without telling all their friends and coworkers how ZOMG ITS SO SCARY AND THE PEOPLE ARE RUDE
 
2013-04-25 03:34:42 PM
Red Sox fans,

Please feel free to fellate us any time you want.

Sincerely,

Yankees fans
 
2013-04-25 03:36:49 PM

Gunny Highway: Nana's Vibrator: What I don't get is how anyone can assert that the Yankees play victim knowing the Mets are in the very same city.

I have a soft spot in my heart for the Mets.


I wouldn't necessarily call it a soft spot from me, but I think they ended up with a bad deal after having all that promise with Wright and Reyes and signing Beltran and Santana, etc...
And the point was that since the Mets ended up with no rings from that core, no one associated with the Yankees could claim themselves a victim of anything.  Unless we're talking about Brosius and the ugly stick.  Zing.
wait that was a little dated...
Unless we're talking the scale in their lockerroom after Sabathia got on it.  Zing.
/Bored
 
2013-04-25 03:44:11 PM

mainstreet62: Red Sox fans,

Please feel free to fellate us any time you want.

Sincerely,

Yankees fans


Dear Yankee fans,

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Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans
 
2013-04-25 03:47:19 PM
It won't take long, but at least it'll be mutual.

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And hot.

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2013-04-25 03:48:16 PM
Gunny Highway:

What is it about NY that you dont like?  I have never understood it.

Boston has all these nicknames for itself, like the Athens of America, the Hub of the Universe, and so on.  Deep down inside where they don't want to admit it Bostonians know there is a real Hub of the Universe and it's a 4 hour drive (if you're lucky) on I-95 to get there.
 
2013-04-25 03:48:29 PM
Took me until about noon on September 11 to start hating the Yanks again, so I won't begrudge any Yankee fans who still hate the sox now.

/even though the rivalry isn't what it was 10 years ago
 
2013-04-25 03:49:13 PM

Publikwerks: Dear Yankee fans,

Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans


Dear Publikwerks:

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2013-04-25 03:50:54 PM

steve_wmn: Gunny Highway:

What is it about NY that you dont like?  I have never understood it.

Boston has all these nicknames for itself, like the Athens of America, the Hub of the Universe, and so on.  Deep down inside where they don't want to admit it Bostonians know there is a real Hub of the Universe and it's a 4 hour drive (if you're lucky) on I-95 to get there.


I have never heard those nicknames and I have lived in New England my entire life and Boston for 3 years now.

And you wouldnt take 95 to get from Boston to NYC.
 
2013-04-25 03:52:38 PM
Knicks fans have been hating on Boston for coming up on a week.  fark 'em. Sweep biatches!
 
2013-04-25 03:53:17 PM
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/Slightly amused
 
2013-04-25 03:53:27 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Publikwerks: Dear Yankee fans,

Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans

Dear Publikwerks:

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Dear Yanks_RSJ,

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$29,000,000

Sincerely,

Publikwerks
 
2013-04-25 03:53:52 PM

Publikwerks: mainstreet62: Red Sox fans,

Please feel free to fellate us any time you want.

Sincerely,

Yankees fans

Dear Yankee fans,

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Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans


Yes, we all know how safe division leads are when Boston is in the lead.

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2013-04-25 03:54:48 PM

Gunny Highway: I have never heard those nicknames and I have lived in New England my entire life and Boston for 3 years now.

And you wouldnt take 95 to get from Boston to NYC.


Absolutely.  The Mass Pike to 84, then 91-S to the Merritt would be the way to go.
 
2013-04-25 03:55:03 PM
Sports hate can be healthy and gives some life to the game, any game really.

But I leave the car tipping / drunk bleacher fighting in front of the kids / daddy gets arrested anger to the douchebags and asshats who can't process in their neanderthal brains that it's a game. Win or lose, you won't get any special treatment for "your" team winning a pennant.
 
2013-04-25 03:55:40 PM

Publikwerks: Yanks_RSJ: Publikwerks: Dear Yankee fans,

Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans

Dear Publikwerks:

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Dear Yanks_RSJ,

[myupperwest.com image 318x414]
$29,000,000

Sincerely,

Publikwerks


Dear Publikwerks,

Yanks are insured.

Sincerely,

Mainstreet62
 
2013-04-25 03:56:13 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: I have never heard those nicknames and I have lived in New England my entire life and Boston for 3 years now.

And you wouldnt take 95 to get from Boston to NYC.

Absolutely.  The Mass Pike to 84, then 91-S to the Merritt would be the way to go.


My route of choice.  Love the Merritt 90% of the time.
 
2013-04-25 03:57:10 PM

Gunny Highway: And you wouldnt take 95 to get from Boston to NYC.


Why not? I never want to miss the pristine views of luxurious Bridgeport, CT.

As a random aside, even though they moved to Brookyln, I can't muster any hate for the Nets. I actually feel pity for a team that is carrying Joe Johnson's contract and has a 7'0 starting center who somehow only gets 5 rebounds a game. Seriously Lopez, at that height you should have at least a gravitational pull that nets you 8 rebounds/game by sheer accident.
 
2013-04-25 03:58:39 PM

mainstreet62: Publikwerks: Yanks_RSJ: Publikwerks: Dear Yankee fans,

Sincerely,

Red Sox Fans

Dear Publikwerks:

[www.azbar.org image 850x791]

Dear Yanks_RSJ,

[myupperwest.com image 318x414]
$29,000,000

Sincerely,

Publikwerks

Dear Publikwerks,

Yanks are insured.

Sincerely,

Mainstreet62


Dear  Mainstreet62,

Good thing, cause the google image search for "Yankee injured" looks like your 2012 starting lineup.

Sincerely,

Publikwerks
 
2013-04-25 04:01:00 PM
Clearly Publikwerks is just trying way too hard.  I see now why I have Killer Cars and Gunny Highway marked as cool Boston people.
 
2013-04-25 04:03:44 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Clearly Publikwerks is just trying way too hard.  I see now why I have Killer Cars and Gunny Highway marked as cool Boston people.


Nahh, just wasting time until quitting time. Which is now.

It's all in fun, and it's times like these(just like after 9/11) that remind us that it is a game, and that no matter how heated the rivalry gets, it's still just a game.
 
2013-04-25 04:04:17 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Clearly Publikwerks is just trying way too hard.  I see now why I have Killer Cars and Gunny Highway marked as cool Boston people.


It doesn't matter how hard they try. Once the number 27 (for now) shows up, all arguments are rendered invalid.

It really is like cats playing with caught mice. Too easy.
 
2013-04-25 04:04:27 PM

Killer Cars: Gunny Highway: And you wouldnt take 95 to get from Boston to NYC.

Why not? I never want to miss the pristine views of luxurious Bridgeport, CT.

As a random aside, even though they moved to Brookyln, I can't muster any hate for the Nets. I actually feel pity for a team that is carrying Joe Johnson's contract and has a 7'0 starting center who somehow only gets 5 rebounds a game. Seriously Lopez, at that height you should have at least a gravitational pull that nets you 8 rebounds/game by sheer accident.


I think a basketball rivalry is good for the city.  I like Brook but you are right.  And Joe Johnson is a terrible contract.

It is good to see both teams playing good ball at the same time though.
 
2013-04-25 04:04:54 PM

Publikwerks: it's still just a game.


Indeed.

Good luck this year. ;-)
 
2013-04-25 04:05:46 PM

Killer Cars: Yanks_RSJ: I won't minimize the hatred between the teams, I want the Red Sox to lose every single day.

Oh, fair enough.

I based my earlier comment from the only time I attended a Yankees game (this was pre-2004 and I just started college); just happened to be in NYC and had nothing better to do than show up for a game between the Yanks and...the Royals or some other f*cking team. My friends and I wore our Sox caps mildly hoping for 9 innings of sh*t talk in the stands, but, outside of a few derogatory cat calls, the fan reaction to us was largely "aww, that's so cute, look! Sox fans!".


There are 2 distinct eras in Red Sox/Yankees rivalry: pre-2004, and the Modern Era. The 2004 ALCS gave the Yankees something the Sox had for 86 years.

BAGGAGE.

2004 also gave a sense of parity to the rivalry. Yankees fans can crow about 27 World Series victories all they want...all a Boston fan has to say is "2004" and the tonal shift in the conversation is staggering...
 
2013-04-25 04:11:16 PM

Maestro1701: There are 2 distinct eras in Red Sox/Yankees rivalry: pre-2004, and the Modern Era. The 2004 ALCS gave the Yankees something the Sox had for 86 years.

BAGGAGE.

2004 also gave a sense of parity to the rivalry. Yankees fans can crow about 27 World Series victories all they want...all a Boston fan has to say is "2004" and the tonal shift in the conversation is staggering...


Yes, a "sense" of parity is the right way to put that.  But the scale is still tipped heavily in our favor, and let's be honest, if the Red Sox ever blew a 3-0 lead there would be 1000 books released within a week to celebrate their misery.

And I genuinely despise the "27 rings" argument.  I'll gladly point out the five celebrations I've enjoyed since my senior year in HS, though.

And we've also got the "18-1" card to play if the discussion turns to the NFL.  Plus the other time NY beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl.  So, you know, we're okay.
 
2013-04-25 04:13:47 PM

Gunny Highway: SirEattonHogg: Sure, I have sympathy for the city.  Why should that translate into any liking of the Red Sox?  Give me a break.

All I need to do to dislike the Red Sox is just watch the Ken Burns Baseball series again and listen to all the fanatical fan BS devoted to the Red Sox on that show.  Bleah, it's a like a frigging religion.

Rats all jumped ship last year.  It is back to being a cult.

Nana's Vibrator: What I don't get is how anyone can assert that the Yankees play victim knowing the Mets are in the very same city.

I have a soft spot in my heart   on my head for the Mets.


FTFY
 
2013-04-25 04:15:23 PM
This is like a preview to the Sports Tab for people who don't normally go there.  Just as much as last week was a preview of the Politics Tab for people who don't go there.  I'm banking on a near-future preview of the Entertainment Tab with boobs.  Lots and lots of boobs.
 
2013-04-25 04:18:28 PM

Maestro1701: Yankees fans can crow about 27 World Series victories all they want...all a Boston fan has to say is "2004" and the tonal shift in the conversation is staggering...


It's amazing so many people think that 2004 is something special. With both teams being evenly matched and every game basically a coin flip, the odds of winning 4 in a row are an "astronomical" 1 in 16. And please don't give me the "it's never been done in history!!!" BS, because statistically speaking, the history of playoffs isn't really that long, small sample size and all that.

Big deal. You beat us once in the playoffs. Congrats. Now try not to chant "Yankees suck!" at every single home game. All it proves is that the Yankees are forever ingrained into your psyche. With good reason.
 
2013-04-25 04:21:07 PM

Misconduc: I've been a life long Yankee fan, I've met the goods, bads of every team - ESPN over plays the rivalry, in hindsight i've only met a handful of jerkoff Red sox fans. The same ones gloat "remember that year we were down 3 games??" or my favorite "We won 6 in a row against you".


Yep, the whole "all their fans are assholes" thing is most often a myth.  Went to a Saints/Eagles game years back down here in NOLA.  Philly fans were all very nice.  And there were a lot of them... they travel well, especially to a destination like NOLA.

Now, if I went to bourbon street after the game, I'm sure there were a handful of drunk Puilly jerks.  But that's not representitive.
 
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