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(Yahoo)   The good news: The F-35 program is showing increases in efficiency and there are new foreign buyers showing interest. The bad news: The software the plane needs to operate may not be ready by 2017, when full-scale production should be underway   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 20
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2013-04-25 08:40:59 AM
3 votes:
I see no solution but to end all entitlement programs and immediately transfer all the money to the F-35 program. We're already almost $400 billion in, so it's clear that the program is too big to fail and we must be prepared to ensure its success no matter what the cost. Furthemore, if decreased orders are the reason that its production may be slowing, we should enact programs to increase interest and incentivize buyers. For example, we might offer the wealthiest 1% of Americans a new tax credit that they could use to offset their recent tax increase -- one of the largest tax increases in modern history, I might add -- where if they agree to buy 1 or 2 F35s for their own, personal use, they can claim the amount spent as a special "Air Patriot" deduction. And before any gun-grabbing liberals start flailing their hands and crying about whether citizens have the "right" to own an F35 or two, let me just say that the constitution is a living document, people. It evolves with time. If the Founders had been fighting a British army with RADAR-guided missiles, they would have almost certainly considered an F35 squadron to be part of any "well regulated militia." Let's not pretend that we're still fighting with muskets, mkay?
2013-04-25 10:47:53 AM
2 votes:
www.airforce-technology.com

Who needs anything else?
2013-04-25 10:16:11 AM
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Boeing Co's F-15 Silent Eagle and the Eurofighter Typhoon, built by EADS, Finmeccanica SpA and BAE Systems Plc, are also competing for the contract

The F-15 Silent Eagle should be the plane we're buying instead of the F-35.  It has better payload, better range, better performance, a much lower unit cost, and is built on an airframe that has never been downed in air-to-air combat.


and is about as stealthy as a flying barn
2013-04-25 02:46:25 PM
1 votes:
If you haven't seen the movie 'Deal of the Century', find it. I'll bet most of the people in this thread have seen it though.

//Just a little touch up!!
2013-04-25 12:24:26 PM
1 votes:
The F-35 will be a resounding success...for the people who set up the deals and collect the juicy commissions.

Your role, citizen, is to Keep America Safe by subsidizing these deals.  Remember the Heroes.  Denounce the Tourists.
2013-04-25 11:36:19 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: MythDragon: [www.airforce-technology.com image 620x371]

Who needs anything else?

That thing is more like a flying tank than a fighter plane, but they are very cool.


It's a gun with wings.

img36.imageshack.us
2013-04-25 11:30:06 AM
1 votes:

Enemabag Jones: michiganftl,
The M-16 always worked fine (ok, maybe a few small additions, like a forward assist helped), it was just some stupid army guys who saw 'outer space parts' and believed that it never had to be cleaned. Once they issued cleaning kits (pretty quickly, because, ya know, it's not cheap to train a grunt and then have him die) they worked fine.

I don't claim to have the 1000 yard stare here, but when the enemy leaves weapons by dead soldiers that is a strong indication they are junk, or at least were.

I swear I heard a source state that part of the problem was stick powder vs ball power, but don't swear by it.


It was a combination of factors. Switching powder for cheaper ammo, only to have the cheaper powder increase fouling. Some idiot thought the M16 was "self cleaning" (the gas tube is, but the rifle itself needs cleaning), so they didn't issue cleaning kits. In a humid jungle environment the things gunked up nice and fast. They also tried to cheap out and do without a chrome lined bore; the extra lubricity given by a chromed bore makes a good cleaning less necessary, and if you aren't cleaning it at all while it's shooting dirtier ammo, it sure won't help things.

The stories about troops being killed with cleaning rods down the barrel of a nonfunctional rifle were apocryphal; I'm not aware of any confirmed cases of that (not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying it seems to be something of an urban legend- a bunch of guys whose buddies saw it, but nobody who was actually there). The powers that be certainly botched the introduction of the rifle but once they figured out what was going on it was sorted out quickly.
2013-04-25 11:16:15 AM
1 votes:

pkellmey: A stealthy, networked, drone fighter fleet would put most manned fighters to shame. Plus, in total, it would be a less expensive project and not put pilots at risk.


Those only work against nations without an air force for electronic counter measures.

For dealing with the nations that are lining up to buy these:
dl.dropboxusercontent.com

Depending on drones for our air defense may prove to have a few shortcomings.
2013-04-25 11:01:55 AM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Boeing Co's F-15 Silent Eagle and the Eurofighter Typhoon, built by EADS, Finmeccanica SpA and BAE Systems Plc, are also competing for the contract
The F-15 Silent Eagle should be the plane we're buying instead of the F-35.  It has better payload, better range, better performance, a much lower unit cost, and is built on an airframe that has never been downed in air-to-air combat.



A single F35 is supposed to be able to down a wing of F-15's without them even knowing what hit them.  They beat the snot out of F-15s in combat exercises.

Public Savant: The F-35 is just like the Nazis Tiger tanks - awesome but too complex and expensive.


Maybe... although the nazi tank divisions were never really defeated by other tanks.  The vast majority were lost due to a lack of air superiority, and a lack of fuel.  Neither of which is a problem for the United States.  Granted, we have had problems with a lack of oxygen....

/rimshot
2013-04-25 10:50:25 AM
1 votes:

MythDragon: [www.airforce-technology.com image 620x371]

Who needs anything else?


The A-10 is very useful, but ugly as shiat, hence the Warthog moniker.

THIS, however, is pure awesomeness:

static.ddmcdn.com
2013-04-25 10:40:37 AM
1 votes:

miss diminutive: Can't we just go back to the golden days when gentlemen in fabulous mustaches graced the skies in multiple-wing wicker baskets and threw bricks at one another?


Actually, if you want to do that sort of thing, you can, for about the price of a decent car:

www.airdromeaeroplanes.com

Though, please, don't grow a mustache.
2013-04-25 10:38:17 AM
1 votes:
Nurglitch:
"Do not ask me to approach the battle meekly, to creep through the shadows, or to quietly slip on my foes in the dark. Let my enemies cower at my advance and tremble at the sight of me."

That's nice but it sounds like a good way to get your ass shot.
2013-04-25 10:22:12 AM
1 votes:
www.geeknewscentral.com

Hi! looks like you are trying to shoot down an SU-27. Would you like help? Yes No
2013-04-25 10:21:22 AM
1 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: UNC_Samurai: Part of me thinks that having a standardized cross-service fighter is a little too similar to the standardization of equipment that was attempted under the McNamara DoD.

But then again, the M-16 eventually worked, and we're still using variants of it to this day.  So maybe in time the F-35 will have been worth it.

The M-16 took dozens of years for it to work properly. It also

caused thousands of lives because it didn't work properly for the longest time.
We can't have that type of a problem with a 5th Gen jet fighter. The risk is just too great!


*****EAM*****
STATUS: URGENT
SENDER: CINC-CENTCOM
RE: M-16 STANDARD INFANTRY

***MESSAGE FOLLOWS****

It has come to the attention of CINC/CENTCOM that the M-16 has been confused by many enlisted men as a marital or reproductive aid.  Many of these men are now expectant fathers because of their misunderstanding and misuse of the M-16, and many female personnel have found themselves operationally exhausted following said misuse.  All line officers are advised to re-instruct enlisted personnel on the proper use of the M-16, and strongly advise against its misuse.  A re-training manual (479 pages plus 2 sets of safety addenda, entitled "The M-16: Not Built for Love") will be forthcoming.

****END EAM****
2013-04-25 10:18:09 AM
1 votes:

doglover: Why do we need a new jet fighter?

With existing tech, we can just make a kind of phalanx of guided missiles. Maybe one misses. For the price of an F-35, we can just launch 100.


Because then the Air Force wouldn't have a reason to exist. They wouldn't like that.
2013-04-25 10:07:24 AM
1 votes:
Can't we just go back to the golden days when gentlemen in fabulous mustaches graced the skies in multiple-wing wicker baskets and threw bricks at one another?
2013-04-25 10:03:45 AM
1 votes:
nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com

Canadian national spokesman for Lockheed Martin
2013-04-25 09:07:54 AM
1 votes:

doglover: Why do we need a new jet fighter?

With existing tech, we can just make a kind of phalanx of guided missiles. Maybe one misses. For the price of an F-35, we can just launch 100.


That has been the argument since about 1945, but it still hasn't caught on, for good reason.
2013-04-25 08:46:12 AM
1 votes:
It's not that the software won't be completed until 2017, it's that it just won't be ready to run until 2017.  They're using Java.
2013-04-25 08:39:15 AM
1 votes:
This is a common problem with high-tech projects.  Nothing unique.
 
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