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(FilmDrunk)   People are pissed that Zach Braff (Net Worth $22,000,000) is using Kickstarter to fund his $2 million dollar project. Fark: Less than one day in and he's already raised $1.2 million   (filmdrunk.uproxx.com) divider line 22
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4917 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 25 Apr 2013 at 6:47 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-04-25 07:26:20 AM  
3 votes:
So? Kickstarter is just a new variation on the same hustles nearly every independent filmmaker does to raise money. How is this any different than Paul Thomas Anderson or Spike Lee hitting up investors, even though they are both wealthy?

It wasn't just going to be some co-op for nerds to raise money to get films made from cancelled TV shows.
2013-04-25 09:26:09 AM  
2 votes:
I'm getting tired of the butthurt around celebrities who have money using Kickstarter to fund projects.

Kickstarter is about democratizing creative ideas. If you want to see the idea go forward, you contribute what you feel it's worth. If you don't want to see it move forward or if you don't trust the party behind it to follow through, you put your wallet away and go on with your day.

The only difference between this system and the old way of producing something and trying to sell it is that it allows the creative person to put the financial risk onto the consumer instead of a publisher. This means that projects that publishers wouldn't touch (but which consumers want) are more likely to move forward if there's public support. And it also gives the creative people better control since they're not trying to appeal to some mythical "target market" but rather, to a specific market of people they can tap for feedback.

Why do so many people have to be so cynical and try to suggest that Kickstarter is being used by rich people to fleece everyone else?  I've backed dozens of Kickstarter projects and found it to be a rewarding experience. More often than not, the people running the campaigns are humbled by the support and work twice as hard because they're directly accountable to their supporters. There have been some bad apple projects, but again -- if you got yourself involved in one of those, it was because you ignored the warning signs and took a bad risk.
2013-04-25 08:14:34 AM  
2 votes:
... and now you know why he is worth $22,000,000.
2013-04-25 07:27:45 AM  
2 votes:
Rule #1 in Hollywood - Never use your own money.
2013-04-25 07:07:19 AM  
2 votes:
Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!
2013-04-26 02:52:24 AM  
1 votes:

redmid17: stoli n coke: Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."

Firefly was completely overrated



It was a decent enough show, and the Serenity movie was pretty good. It's just been too long now, and any attempts to revive it either as a show or movie will be underwhelming and be attacked mercilessly by the same people who complained endlessly to bring it back (see Family Guy as an example.)

Sometimes, it's better to just remember how good something was rather than try to keep it going until it becomes unwatchable.
2013-04-25 04:39:36 PM  
1 votes:
Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."
2013-04-25 01:34:57 PM  
1 votes:

eiger: However, when major corporations and wealthy individuals start getting in on it, it basically becomes a way for them to get seed capital essentially for free and, to me at least, seems an abuse of the idea behind the site.


It's not abuse, it's a misunderstanding of scope.  It's a common mistake.  Well-meaning people will make a lake "open to all access" or something and not realize that that also means nothing's stopping a company from pumping all the water out of it and selling it in bottles, or dumping toxic waste into it.  No system can rely on goodwill to prevent assholes from ruining everything.  This is precisely why schools offering financial aid require access to financial documents because otherwise the money would go to the greedy instead of the needy.  My wife is an auditor and she routinely sees families pulling $200+k salaries not only requesting but demanding financial aid.  Greed doesn't stop just because you have money, and millionaires don't get rich by being charitable.  WTF do you expect?  Rich people are notoriously cheap; it's how they get rich.  It's not illegal and not even necessarily immoral, but expecting rich people to behave themselves is very unrealistic.  A lot do (they're cheap but not necessarily destructive), but it only takes one douchebag and that's the one you've got to worry about.

The real problem, as far as I can tell, is that high-profile projects can drown out and draw funds away from others that can't thrive on name recognition alone, but this is an everyday problem that goes well beyond Kickstarter.  Just ask any independent restaurant what it's like to compete with franchises.  The alternative is for Kickstarter to impose some form of need-based exclusivity, but the administrative costs and disclosure requirements will kill their business model.
2013-04-25 12:18:25 PM  
1 votes:
AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

I really don't understand what happened to that guys career. I mean he left scrubs before the final season because he wanted to go on to bigger and better things. But the only thing he has really done since scrubs is voice overs on commercials for toilet paper.
2013-04-25 11:25:02 AM  
1 votes:
Braff hasn't made a movie since 2004′s Garden State

...and we were all thankful for that...
2013-04-25 11:13:26 AM  
1 votes:

Broktun: I want to take my daughter to one last concert.

She will be 17 soon, and leaving the nest.

Can Kickstarter help me?


If you want to see a band that's currently touring, just buy tickets for the closest show.

If you want to see a band that nominally still exists but not actively performing or a performer that doesn't tour, contact their management and find out the rate for a private show.

If your daughter's favorite band is eg, The Rolling Stones, well, they're still touring.  But a private show would be hundreds of thousands of dollars.  But for most non-A-List and non-current-hottest-act, you're probably in the range of $5k to $20k.  Add in transportation, a place to perform, etc, you're out of the range most of us can afford for a party for our teenager.  But you're also not in Bill Gates/Warren Buffet territory.

Get a number from the band, add in your incidentals, set up am account on Kickstarter.  Offer an invite to the party at some level of "investment".  Bob's your uncle.

Now getting your 17-yr old daughter to go to a concert with you, that kickstarter cannot help.
2013-04-25 10:35:03 AM  
1 votes:

assjuice: Kickstarter is stupid, and so is anyone who contributes.


Kickstarter was great in the beginning when it was used to fund interesting, micro-budgeted, amateur projects, mostly short films, webseries and comic books that would have never seen the light of day if not for Kickstarter, itself. Now it has become Grand Central for beggars for everything and everything under the sun. It's ridiculous some of the stuff people ask to be crowdfunded or the amount of money being asked.
2013-04-25 10:19:27 AM  
1 votes:
I'd like to pay off my $30,000 in student debt.
I'd like to beef up my down payment for a house.

Perhaps I'll beg on Kickstarter or some other like minded site.  I can hand write you a poem on a bar napkin for your support.

Too bad I'm not some hack celebrity who can drum up a fist full of cash in a few days.
2013-04-25 10:14:45 AM  
1 votes:
Kickstarter sucks and people are idiots for contributing.

btw are there any farkers who need money, you know maybe destitute living homeless, maybe short on insurance coverage? I would love to contribute!
2013-04-25 09:55:20 AM  
1 votes:
Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.
2013-04-25 07:42:56 AM  
1 votes:
How much do I have to donate for him to convince Sarah Chalke to do a nude scene?  I'm in for that.
2013-04-25 07:38:07 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: Prank Call of Cthulhu: robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

I hope the reward for that level was a bj from whatshername--the cross-eyed chick that stars in it.

People place different values on different things. To me, seeing a 90 minute movie was worth 7500 dollars.

/the wife spends nearly that on clothing every month


While I'm sure it's nice having the means and all... that seems like a very vapid existence. It's your money though, do what you will.
2013-04-25 07:11:37 AM  
1 votes:
So he's worth $22 million - does that mean a significant portion of it is in liquid assets, and can easily be put up as an investment without disrupting his financial planning?
2013-04-25 07:09:07 AM  
1 votes:
Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

Would finance half a Wonderfalls revival, were it to happen.

/good money for good causes
//vote with your wallet
2013-04-25 06:54:14 AM  
1 votes:

Why use your own money in a risky venture when you can use someone else's? And as a bonus there's practically no legal obligations either. Kickstarter is the greatest thing ever for the 1%.


/it's pretty cool for the 99% as well.

//Kickstarter is not a store!

2013-04-25 06:53:30 AM  
1 votes:
Kickstarter is stupid, and so is anyone who contributes.
2013-04-25 06:51:42 AM  
1 votes:
I'd pay *not* to see another Zach Braff movie.
 
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