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(FilmDrunk)   People are pissed that Zach Braff (Net Worth $22,000,000) is using Kickstarter to fund his $2 million dollar project. Fark: Less than one day in and he's already raised $1.2 million   (filmdrunk.uproxx.com) divider line 140
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2013-04-25 11:54:48 AM  

Farce-Side: robohobo: Prank Call of Cthulhu: robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

I hope the reward for that level was a bj from whatshername--the cross-eyed chick that stars in it.

People place different values on different things. To me, seeing a 90 minute movie was worth 7500 dollars.

/the wife spends nearly that on clothing every month

If you're interested, I can film 90 min. worth of boring tripe and cliche rom-com/drama lines for half that.  Hell, I'll even make it HD.  Plus my wife will show you her titties.


I'll give you $8 and a candy bar
 
2013-04-25 11:56:49 AM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Another good idea corrupted. Next up the Kardashians .

 Fark Zach and his BS stories. There greater stories waiting to be told than than his recycle shat. We all read Philip Roth and the seventies are over.  ( Yeah I am sick of the same old archetypes.)

// Reminds me reading how Robert Redford received monies from National Endowment for Arts for his Sundance Festival.

( talk about corporate welfare ..paying multi millionaires .)


You're actually arguing in favor of this. The funding for the project comes from the crowd, so none of your other projects are affected or not made because this is. In fact, if you don't go to it, and you stay out of threads like this one, it wouldn't impact you in any way whatsoever.
 
2013-04-25 12:05:02 PM  
What's with the hate with Garden State? Yeah it had a cliche  Manic Pixie Dream Girl, as well as a cliche last minute character change at the airport climax. But it had a great soundtrack (and I normally hate that indie crap) solid directing, and was a pretty heartfelt film on how sometimes we become so numb to life we forget to live it.
 
2013-04-25 12:16:52 PM  

JinxofSpades: I don't begrudge the guy a dime, but how is Zach Braff worth $22 million?  I guess I would have just expected he was worth less.


Here was the star of a TV show that was on a major network for 8 years.  Even though it wasn't a huge hit they still had to pay him. Plus he was also credited as director/producer for a number of episodes. And considering the show went into syndication being the star along with a director/producer probably pays pretty well.
 
2013-04-25 12:18:25 PM  
AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

I really don't understand what happened to that guys career. I mean he left scrubs before the final season because he wanted to go on to bigger and better things. But the only thing he has really done since scrubs is voice overs on commercials for toilet paper.
 
2013-04-25 12:34:29 PM  
If you actually read the synopsis and his reasons for Kickstarter (total creative control) you'd probably get cancer. Christ, it sounds awful.
 
2013-04-25 12:42:50 PM  
I'd like to start a Kickstarter to prevent this thing from being made.  Come to think of it, that would make a pretty good movie.
 
2013-04-25 12:49:24 PM  
I never get this. Why are rich people required/expected to use their own money when they can save their money and get someone else to pay?

Like when a large number of biking (motorcycle) adventurers got annoyed that Ewan and his bud got sponsors for their "Round the World" trip.  For some reason they should spend all their own money when they can get sponsorships.  Stupid.
 
2013-04-25 12:55:05 PM  

mechgreg: AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

I really don't understand what happened to that guys career. I mean he left scrubs before the final season because he wanted to go on to bigger and better things. But the only thing he has really done since scrubs is voice overs on commercials for toilet paper.


His passion is Indie stuff (he always tries to host indie awards) and iirc he didn't want to leave scrubs but nearly everybody else did. John c, bill Lawrence, turkleton, and braff wanted to continue scrubs.
 
2013-04-25 12:55:59 PM  
Anyone see the last kiss? How does one regret Rachel bilson? Wtf?
 
2013-04-25 01:15:05 PM  

RickN99: eiger: Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!

A profit?  I give somebody money for a game, I expect a product, not a profit.

You've never even been to the site, have you?


I have and for an indie game or some such product where one gets something at the end, I think it's a great idea, and I would consider giving money.

However, when major corporations and wealthy individuals start getting in on it, it basically becomes a way for them to get seed capital essentially for free and, to me at least, seems an abuse of the idea behind the site.

And does seem like that is the way the site is going.
 
2013-04-25 01:21:50 PM  
I didn't think The High Cost of Living was so bad.

And Garden State's soundtrack was worth sitting through it.
 
2013-04-25 01:34:14 PM  
Hmmm. I saw that Asian Pornstar Jessica Bangkok escorts, and even saw the website for the agency that pimps her. The price $1200/hr. I wonder if I could get funding from Kickstarter. For $5 I will send you a signed thank you note. For $100 I will send you a picture of me in post coital bliss.
 
2013-04-25 01:34:57 PM  

eiger: However, when major corporations and wealthy individuals start getting in on it, it basically becomes a way for them to get seed capital essentially for free and, to me at least, seems an abuse of the idea behind the site.


It's not abuse, it's a misunderstanding of scope.  It's a common mistake.  Well-meaning people will make a lake "open to all access" or something and not realize that that also means nothing's stopping a company from pumping all the water out of it and selling it in bottles, or dumping toxic waste into it.  No system can rely on goodwill to prevent assholes from ruining everything.  This is precisely why schools offering financial aid require access to financial documents because otherwise the money would go to the greedy instead of the needy.  My wife is an auditor and she routinely sees families pulling $200+k salaries not only requesting but demanding financial aid.  Greed doesn't stop just because you have money, and millionaires don't get rich by being charitable.  WTF do you expect?  Rich people are notoriously cheap; it's how they get rich.  It's not illegal and not even necessarily immoral, but expecting rich people to behave themselves is very unrealistic.  A lot do (they're cheap but not necessarily destructive), but it only takes one douchebag and that's the one you've got to worry about.

The real problem, as far as I can tell, is that high-profile projects can drown out and draw funds away from others that can't thrive on name recognition alone, but this is an everyday problem that goes well beyond Kickstarter.  Just ask any independent restaurant what it's like to compete with franchises.  The alternative is for Kickstarter to impose some form of need-based exclusivity, but the administrative costs and disclosure requirements will kill their business model.
 
2013-04-25 02:57:31 PM  

dragonchild: is that high-profile projects can drown out and draw funds away from others that can't thrive on name recognition alone


Is that really true, though? How many of these contributors to high-profile projects would have contributed to a small project but chose not in favor of the high-profile project?
 
2013-04-25 03:15:51 PM  
First: Garden State was an awesome movie.

Second: Braff gets a pass from everything for being J.D.

Third: He can finance his films anyway he wants...clearly.

Fourth: Go fark yourselves you whiny assclowns.
 
2013-04-25 03:51:27 PM  
HEY RICH MAN! LET ME GIVE YOU SOME MONEY FROM MY MINIMUM WAGE PAYCHECK CUZ YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY OF YOUR OWN FORTUNE ON SOMETHING!
 
2013-04-25 03:53:05 PM  

ongbok: Hmmm. Asian Pornstar Jessica Bangkok  For $100 I will send you a picture of me in post coital bliss.


You might want to rethink that. She is known to hang around Mr. Marcus (or whatever the hell his stage name is).  For $1200 you can get less plastic asians and all at the same time.
 
2013-04-25 04:30:19 PM  
Approves.

kendavenport.typepad.com

"NEVER PUT YOUR OWN MONEY IN THE SHOW"
 
2013-04-25 04:39:36 PM  
Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."
 
2013-04-25 04:42:20 PM  

stoli n coke: Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."

 
2013-04-25 04:49:32 PM  

eiger: Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!


I don't want a profit I want some damn bones miniatures!
 
2013-04-25 05:07:08 PM  
This does not strike me as a bad thing.  Could he fund it himself?  Yes.  Or any number of millionaire hollywood investors could quite easily, more likely.  And it would be another Hollywood production, focus tested and marketed, and changed in order to ensure it was exactly bland enough to make back it's costs and profit on DVD.  While I seriously doubt Zach Braff is going to be the one to break the mold, I have no problem with major artists, millionaires, or anyone else taking their idea to Kickstarter.  If it succeeds in getting funding, people wanted it, and (one hopes) the product they were interested in getting made gets made instead of something else.  I see that as nothing but a good thing.
 
2013-04-25 05:34:27 PM  

UNC_Samurai: So he's worth $22 million - does that mean a significant portion of it is in liquid assets, and can easily be put up as an investment without disrupting his financial planning?


Mostly what I'm thinking, but I'm also thinking that a new movie from Mr. Braff doesn't really interest me, especially this one. At least should he ever make this, it will be indy enough that I won't be annoyed by a marketing blitz, so there is that. No reason to get all "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" (maybe I'm reading too much into the headline and article).
 
2013-04-25 05:36:47 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

I hope the reward for that level was a bj from whatshername--the cross-eyed chick that stars in it.


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
Yes please!
 
2013-04-25 05:47:18 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Not quite Face/Off bad


>:(
 
2013-04-25 05:50:05 PM  

robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.


No you didn't.
 
2013-04-25 06:33:56 PM  
Geez.... A lot of people hating on Kickstarter. I don't get it... It's just a funding vehicle, not religion competing with your own, for fark's sake.

I contributed to the Steve Jackson Kickstarter to make a new edition of OGRE. And what I really wanted was to make Steve Jackson come out with a new version of Car Wars, which he's pledged to do after OGRE if he hit a funding goal. He totally blew past the goal (biggest Kickstarter response for a board game ever!), so after OGRE is done that will be his next project.

And for my meager contribution I got a "I made Steve Jackson work on Car Wars" shirt. So I'm already happy... Now I have the perfect shirt to show off just how much of a nerd I am, I guess.
 
2013-04-25 06:46:50 PM  

secularsage: Why do so many people have to be so cynical and try to suggest that Kickstarter is being used by rich people to fleece everyone else?


Because it is. Where do you think this campaign would be if non celebrity pitched it? They're not giving the project money because they want to see the finished product, they're giving it because OMG ZACH BRAFF!

And he knows this full well, and is taking advantage of it.
 
2013-04-25 07:11:41 PM  

stoli n coke: Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.


Wow, you know us so much better than us.  So well, in fact, that despite the fact that I disagree completely, you said otherwise so I must be wrong about how I think.
 
2013-04-25 07:13:25 PM  

Kaybeck: secularsage: Why do so many people have to be so cynical and try to suggest that Kickstarter is being used by rich people to fleece everyone else?

Because it is. Where do you think this campaign would be if non celebrity pitched it? They're not giving the project money because they want to see the finished product, they're giving it because OMG ZACH BRAFF!

And he knows this full well, and is taking advantage of it.


That makes no sense. We can assume the people giving money are fans of Zach Braff's previous work, so logically they would want to see more stuff with him in it. No one is going to go, "I hate that guy...but he's a celebrity so here's 10 bucks."
 
2013-04-25 08:28:20 PM  

robohobo: Prank Call of Cthulhu: robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

I hope the reward for that level was a bj from whatshername--the cross-eyed chick that stars in it.

People place different values on different things. To me, seeing a 90 minute movie was worth 7500 dollars.

/the wife spends nearly that on clothing every month


enjoy your free month of TotalFark, all that money and you can't throw Drew $50 for the year. Attaboy big spender!!
 
2013-04-25 10:24:46 PM  
I'm okay with this. It's what Kickstarter is intended for. He raises money, and produces the finished product. Generally, you get he product because you already spent the money for it.

Compared to the coont who used her kid's face to fund a camping trip, and who was butt buddies with Warren Buffett, I have trouble working up to apathy on this one.
 
2013-04-26 12:19:06 AM  
It's kinda thick in here. Like Braff or not, he's doing the same thing the "Veronica Mars" project did - using Kickstarter to demonstrate the existence of an audience for the project, which can then be used to persuade a studio to provide additional funding.

Braff putting in $2m of his own money wouldn't accomplish that.
 
2013-04-26 12:52:52 AM  

stoli n coke: Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."


Firefly was completely overrated
 
2013-04-26 02:52:24 AM  

redmid17: stoli n coke: Yet, if Joss Whedon, who made boatloads of money on Avengers and will get at least $10 million more for the sequel, started a Kickstarter for a Firefly movie, I'm sure a lot of people on this site wouldn't have a problem at all.

All the complaints boil down to "Stop liking what I don't like."

Firefly was completely overrated



It was a decent enough show, and the Serenity movie was pretty good. It's just been too long now, and any attempts to revive it either as a show or movie will be underwhelming and be attacked mercilessly by the same people who complained endlessly to bring it back (see Family Guy as an example.)

Sometimes, it's better to just remember how good something was rather than try to keep it going until it becomes unwatchable.
 
2013-04-26 03:26:35 AM  
Thanks WingNutWillie! And yes, I shall be continuing this membership.
 
2013-04-26 08:15:05 AM  

robohobo: Thanks WingNutWillie! And yes, I shall be continuing this membership.


Because Drew Curtis needs it?
 
2013-04-26 09:27:16 AM  

robohobo: Prank Call of Cthulhu: robohobo: Meh. I gave several thousand dollars to the Veronica Mars project.

I hope the reward for that level was a bj from whatshername--the cross-eyed chick that stars in it.

People place different values on different things. To me, seeing a 90 minute movie was worth 7500 dollars.

/the wife spends nearly that on clothing every month


I have stuff to sell you. Wonderful stuff.
 
2013-04-26 04:14:02 PM  

RickN99: CarnySaur: I'd pay *not* to see another Zach Braff movie.

Cool.  Send me ten bucks and when you see a theater showing the movie, don't go in.

Send me another ten bucks and you can also not buy the DVD.  I toss "don't buy the Bluray" for free.


No, Zach.  No.
 
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