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(FilmDrunk)   People are pissed that Zach Braff (Net Worth $22,000,000) is using Kickstarter to fund his $2 million dollar project. Fark: Less than one day in and he's already raised $1.2 million   (filmdrunk.uproxx.com) divider line 140
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2013-04-25 09:18:16 AM  
I don't get it. Would these same people be pissed off if he got 10 private backers to each kick in $200,000 for the project instead of getting 100,000 public investors to each kick in $20?

I mean... I personally see no reason I would want to invest based on the offered payback, but that's just me. If I'm gonna give a guy worth $22,000,000 some of my money to go do something I expect to a cut of the profit AND my name on an end credit card.

/ I have no idea who Zach Braff is....
 
2013-04-25 09:18:30 AM  
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Using other people's money High Five.
 
2013-04-25 09:24:21 AM  
For all he's done he's only worth $22mil?

Huh
 
2013-04-25 09:24:33 AM  
I don't begrudge the guy a dime, but how is Zach Braff worth $22 million?  I guess I would have just expected he was worth less.
 
2013-04-25 09:26:09 AM  
I'm getting tired of the butthurt around celebrities who have money using Kickstarter to fund projects.

Kickstarter is about democratizing creative ideas. If you want to see the idea go forward, you contribute what you feel it's worth. If you don't want to see it move forward or if you don't trust the party behind it to follow through, you put your wallet away and go on with your day.

The only difference between this system and the old way of producing something and trying to sell it is that it allows the creative person to put the financial risk onto the consumer instead of a publisher. This means that projects that publishers wouldn't touch (but which consumers want) are more likely to move forward if there's public support. And it also gives the creative people better control since they're not trying to appeal to some mythical "target market" but rather, to a specific market of people they can tap for feedback.

Why do so many people have to be so cynical and try to suggest that Kickstarter is being used by rich people to fleece everyone else?  I've backed dozens of Kickstarter projects and found it to be a rewarding experience. More often than not, the people running the campaigns are humbled by the support and work twice as hard because they're directly accountable to their supporters. There have been some bad apple projects, but again -- if you got yourself involved in one of those, it was because you ignored the warning signs and took a bad risk.
 
2013-04-25 09:34:16 AM  

secularsage: And it also gives the creative people better control since they're not trying to appeal to some mythical "target market" but rather, to a specific market of people they can tap for feedback.


I can see the better control argument, but if you think he's making this film for shiats and not thinking about a target market where it will be a hit and earn him money, you're out of your mind.
 
2013-04-25 09:34:49 AM  

CarnySaur: I'd pay *not* to see another Zach Braff movie.


Cool.  Send me ten bucks and when you see a theater showing the movie, don't go in.

Send me another ten bucks and you can also not buy the DVD.  I toss "don't buy the Bluray" for free.
 
2013-04-25 09:37:06 AM  
If you contributed to this, be sure to tell us that the next time you go on your "HOLLYWOOD IS OUT OF IDEAS" bullshiat. See, this makes you part of the problem. And, thanks in advance for making the first motion picture adaptation of an app happen.
 
2013-04-25 09:40:22 AM  

assjuice: Kickstarter is stupid, and so is anyone who contributes.

Clam down, Indiegogo.  We all know your model is so different.
 
2013-04-25 09:40:59 AM  

moothemagiccow: At 10k you get to be an extra.



That's great. It's like he thought "I can't afford to pay extras $50 a day on this tight budget... maybe I can get the extras to pay me!"
 
2013-04-25 09:47:24 AM  

Farce-Side: robohobo: You don't place much value on your wife or her titties.

She's an exhibitionist.  She'd probably show them to you for free.  Why not make some money from it, amirite?


Why don't you have her show us first, then we pay what we feel they are worth.

/EIP just in case
//Am I doing this right?  Never can tell
 
2013-04-25 09:48:19 AM  

CarnySaur: I'd pay *not* to see another Zach Braff movie.


www.dorktower.com
 
2013-04-25 09:48:28 AM  
I assume Amanda Palmer and a gang of suckers who paid for the privilege of Ms. Palmer's presence will be doing the soundtrack?
 
2013-04-25 09:49:55 AM  
I'm rooting for the kickstarter model if it means no studios are meddling with the project. Add to that new ways to distribute films on the net and streaming services that can bypass all that MPAA "have to get it down to a PG-13/R" bullshiat. This can be a really good thing.
 
2013-04-25 09:52:37 AM  
Get a following on Facebook/Youtube/Twitter/etc

Announce a project

Kindly ask your loving followers to donate one or two dollars

Profit

Seems like a good idea to me.
 
2013-04-25 09:55:20 AM  
Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.
 
2013-04-25 10:01:48 AM  

secularsage: I'm getting tired of the butthurt around celebrities who have money using Kickstarter to fund projects.

Kickstarter is about democratizing creative ideas. If you want to see the idea go forward, you contribute what you feel it's worth. If you don't want to see it move forward or if you don't trust the party behind it to follow through, you put your wallet away and go on with your day.

The only difference between this system and the old way of producing something and trying to sell it is that it allows the creative person to put the financial risk onto the consumer instead of a publisher. This means that projects that publishers wouldn't touch (but which consumers want) are more likely to move forward if there's public support. And it also gives the creative people better control since they're not trying to appeal to some mythical "target market" but rather, to a specific market of people they can tap for feedback.

Why do so many people have to be so cynical and try to suggest that Kickstarter is being used by rich people to fleece everyone else?  I've backed dozens of Kickstarter projects and found it to be a rewarding experience. More often than not, the people running the campaigns are humbled by the support and work twice as hard because they're directly accountable to their supporters. There have been some bad apple projects, but again -- if you got yourself involved in one of those, it was because you ignored the warning signs and took a bad risk.


In what way are they accountable to their supporters? They need to ship a product. In this case, he needs to release a finished movie. It doesn't have to be successful. It doesn't have to play in a million theaters worldwide. It doesn't have to come out on video. It doesn't have to make one cent. Each kickstarter donation is just that, a donation. All he needs to deliver is the movie and these weird gifts. How is that motivation to succeed?

I think the argument here is that people don't see how million dollar projects can co-exist with thousand dollar ones. I'm not sure it's going to be that much trouble, but then again, I don't care.
 
2013-04-25 10:02:03 AM  
I can understand Kickstarter for games and music... some electronic gadget but a movie.... I just do not get it.  Games and music can be easily distributed.  I give you money and you give me a beta/album some time down the road... if there is a reasonable chance of delivery, sure.  A movie?  I get a poster or some signed crap, maybe a one time veiwing, no way.
 
2013-04-25 10:08:12 AM  
I want to take my daughter to one last concert.

She will be 17 soon, and leaving the nest.

Can Kickstarter help me?
 
2013-04-25 10:14:45 AM  
Kickstarter sucks and people are idiots for contributing.

btw are there any farkers who need money, you know maybe destitute living homeless, maybe short on insurance coverage? I would love to contribute!
 
2013-04-25 10:14:56 AM  

eiger: Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!


You obviously are not investing in the right Kickstarters. Go check out the games or something else that is willing to give you a product for cheaper then they will sell it, or a product with a exclusive extras. You take those games or other products and sell them on eBay, sometimes for up to three or four times what you paid into the Kickstarter.
 
2013-04-25 10:16:28 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: eiger: Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!

You obviously are not investing in the right Kickstarters. Go check out the games or something else that is willing to give you a product for cheaper then they will sell it, or a product with a exclusive extras. You take those games or other products and sell them on eBay, sometimes for up to three or four times what you paid into the Kickstarter.


Yeah, I always get a copy of the album or a shirt or something back when I donate.
 
2013-04-25 10:19:27 AM  
I'd like to pay off my $30,000 in student debt.
I'd like to beef up my down payment for a house.

Perhaps I'll beg on Kickstarter or some other like minded site.  I can hand write you a poem on a bar napkin for your support.

Too bad I'm not some hack celebrity who can drum up a fist full of cash in a few days.
 
2013-04-25 10:20:05 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.


I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you didn't see more than one episode of the last season of scrubs.

/nttiawwt
 
2013-04-25 10:32:22 AM  

eiger: Kickstarter is great! All of the joys of investing without the annoying possibility of making a profit!


A profit?  I give somebody money for a game, I expect a product, not a profit.

You've never even been to the site, have you?
 
2013-04-25 10:32:36 AM  

redmid17: AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you didn't see more than one episode of the last season of scrubs.

/nttiawwt


I did. It wasn't horrible, per se. I thought when they ended the original run, they did it perfectly. It's actually one of my favorite finales. My problem was that when they brought it back, they really just unraveled a lot of the ends they tied up perfectly. Like how they wrote of characters that wouldn't come back. Or Ted. Stuff like that.
 
2013-04-25 10:33:50 AM  
Meh. At least he's asking. When some billionaire wants a new sports stadium they usually just take the money.
 
2013-04-25 10:34:12 AM  

CPennypacker: I'm farking sick of hearing about kickstarter


And I'm so sick of it hat, instead of ignoring the article and moving on, I'm going to read the thread and comment!  That's how sick I am of hearing about it!
 
2013-04-25 10:35:03 AM  

assjuice: Kickstarter is stupid, and so is anyone who contributes.


Kickstarter was great in the beginning when it was used to fund interesting, micro-budgeted, amateur projects, mostly short films, webseries and comic books that would have never seen the light of day if not for Kickstarter, itself. Now it has become Grand Central for beggars for everything and everything under the sun. It's ridiculous some of the stuff people ask to be crowdfunded or the amount of money being asked.
 
2013-04-25 10:37:52 AM  

UNC_Samurai: So he's worth $22 million - does that mean a significant portion of it is in liquid assets, and can easily be put up as an investment without disrupting his financial planning?


Beat me to it. I can come up with a dozen perfectly valid reasons for why ZB would do this, of which I'm sure several apply.
 
2013-04-25 10:38:32 AM  

mekki: assjuice: Kickstarter is stupid, and so is anyone who contributes.

Kickstarter was great in the beginning when it was used to fund interesting, micro-budgeted, amateur projects, mostly short films, webseries and comic books that would have never seen the light of day if not for Kickstarter, itself. Now it has become Grand Central for beggars for everything and everything under the sun. It's ridiculous some of the stuff people ask to be crowdfunded or the amount of money being asked.


God damn general population ruins everything *flips hair*
 
2013-04-25 10:38:56 AM  

RickN99: CPennypacker: I'm farking sick of hearing about kickstarter

And I'm so sick of it hat, instead of ignoring the article and moving on, I'm going to read the thread and comment!  That's how sick I am of hearing about it!


I'm sick of your shiat too. Snark on that.
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2013-04-25 10:41:49 AM  

JinxofSpades: I don't begrudge the guy a dime, but how is Zach Braff worth $22 million?  I guess I would have just expected he was worth less.


BizarreMan: For all he's done he's only worth $22mil?

Huh


I love that these were back-to-back.
 
2013-04-25 10:42:09 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: redmid17: AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you didn't see more than one episode of the last season of scrubs.

/nttiawwt

I did. It wasn't horrible, per se. I thought when they ended the original run, they did it perfectly. It's actually one of my favorite finales. My problem was that when they brought it back, they really just unraveled a lot of the ends they tied up perfectly. Like how they wrote of characters that wouldn't come back. Or Ted. Stuff like that.


If you watched more than one episode, you'd know he wasn't the star of that season....
 
2013-04-25 10:44:06 AM  
Ok, just read the Kickstarter guidelines.  Apparently I can't ask for money to fund my future housing and student debt.  Instead I will say it's a project to complete bar napkin art.
 
2013-04-25 10:44:25 AM  

Saiga410: I can understand Kickstarter for games and music... some electronic gadget but a movie.... I just do not get it.  Games and music can be easily distributed.  I give you money and you give me a beta/album some time down the road... if there is a reasonable chance of delivery, sure.  A movie?  I get a poster or some signed crap, maybe a one time veiwing, no way.


How is a movie different from a game or music?  You can get an UltraViolet code or a DVD rather easily.
 
2013-04-25 10:44:56 AM  
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2013-04-25 10:51:58 AM  

meanmutton: Saiga410: I can understand Kickstarter for games and music... some electronic gadget but a movie.... I just do not get it.  Games and music can be easily distributed.  I give you money and you give me a beta/album some time down the road... if there is a reasonable chance of delivery, sure.  A movie?  I get a poster or some signed crap, maybe a one time veiwing, no way.

How is a movie different from a game or music?  You can get an UltraViolet code or a DVD rather easily.


If that is offered I could see donating.  I did a quick run through this offerind and I did not see that as a kickback... or at least one at a reasonable donation level (stopped at 150).  I am pretty sure the VM movie was the same way.  I do not have that much experience looking at movie kickstarters to know if that is a usual kickback... if it is I walk back some from my earlier statement.
 
2013-04-25 10:53:42 AM  

WhiskeySticks: I'd like to pay off my $30,000 in student debt.
I'd like to beef up my down payment for a house.

Perhaps I'll beg on Kickstarter or some other like minded site.  I can hand write you a poem on a bar napkin for your support.


The point is people are willing to give him money because they liked his previous work, and helping him produce future work that they might also enjoy is a worthwhile reward for them. I see nothing wrong with this. And If you're an unknown nobody with a bad idea and nothing to offer, no one will help you, which is fair too.
 
2013-04-25 10:56:12 AM  

browntimmy: WhiskeySticks: I'd like to pay off my $30,000 in student debt.
I'd like to beef up my down payment for a house.

Perhaps I'll beg on Kickstarter or some other like minded site.  I can hand write you a poem on a bar napkin for your support.

The point is people are willing to give him money because they liked his previous work, and helping him produce future work that they might also enjoy is a worthwhile reward for them. I see nothing wrong with this. And If you're an unknown nobody with a bad idea and nothing to offer, no one will help you, which is fair too.


Everything and everyone must be hated.
 
2013-04-25 10:58:26 AM  

browntimmy: And If you're an unknown nobody with a bad idea and nothing to offer, no one will help you, which is fair too.


But if you're a known body with a bad idea and nothing to offer, you can get $1.2 million in a day.

Yes, Mister Barnum, you had something to add to the discussion?
 
2013-04-25 11:02:41 AM  

browntimmy: And If you're an unknown nobody with a bad idea and nothing to offer, no one will help you, which is fair too.


Obviously you've never seen my prized works of art entitled "dicks drawn on a bar napkin".  It's an ongoing project.  Spot me $15 for a case of beer and I'll give you first dibs.
 
2013-04-25 11:03:45 AM  
Don't fund a restaurant with your own money.
Don't fund a movie with your own money.

There was a third one, but I forget.

/Broadway musical?  Well anyway.
 
2013-04-25 11:04:11 AM  

EyeballKid: browntimmy: And If you're an unknown nobody with a bad idea and nothing to offer, no one will help you, which is fair too.

But if you're a known body with a bad idea and nothing to offer, you can get $1.2 million in a day.

Yes, Mister Barnum, you had something to add to the discussion?


To his fans it's as a good idea with something to offer. No one is being duped. People that aren't fans of his aren't giving him money.
 
2013-04-25 11:13:26 AM  

Broktun: I want to take my daughter to one last concert.

She will be 17 soon, and leaving the nest.

Can Kickstarter help me?


If you want to see a band that's currently touring, just buy tickets for the closest show.

If you want to see a band that nominally still exists but not actively performing or a performer that doesn't tour, contact their management and find out the rate for a private show.

If your daughter's favorite band is eg, The Rolling Stones, well, they're still touring.  But a private show would be hundreds of thousands of dollars.  But for most non-A-List and non-current-hottest-act, you're probably in the range of $5k to $20k.  Add in transportation, a place to perform, etc, you're out of the range most of us can afford for a party for our teenager.  But you're also not in Bill Gates/Warren Buffet territory.

Get a number from the band, add in your incidentals, set up am account on Kickstarter.  Offer an invite to the party at some level of "investment".  Bob's your uncle.

Now getting your 17-yr old daughter to go to a concert with you, that kickstarter cannot help.
 
2013-04-25 11:17:43 AM  
Only one way I'd possibly consider donating

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2013-04-25 11:21:04 AM  

seniorgato: Don't fund a restaurant with your own money.
Don't fund a movie with your own money.

There was a third one, but I forget.


Don't fund  anything with your own money. That's business 101. Loans, investors, and now crowd-funding.

WhiskeySticks: Instead I will say it's a project to complete bar napkin art.


You can try, but Kickstarter isn't a machine where you put stupid ideas in and money falls out. We only hear about the Kickstarters that actually hit their funding goals, but most don't.

mekki: it was used to fund interesting, micro-budgeted, amateur projects, mostly short films, webseries and comic books that would have never seen the light of day if not for Kickstarter


Because micro-budgeted, amateur projects don't get funded on Kickstarter anymore? This is just silly. Yes, it's the big projects which get news headlines. But I've gotten stuff through Kickstarter that would never have seen the light of day without it.

Just because Rob Thomas and Zach Braff come to Kickstarter doesn't mean random-person-with-an-idea is somehow cut out of it. The people plowing money into those big projects probably weren't going to be plowing money into those tiny projects  anyway.
 
2013-04-25 11:22:40 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: Remember when Zach Braff left Scrubs because he hated how it was "holding him back." So they ended the show. Then he didn't do shiat. Then they brought back some form of aborted Scrubs. Starring him. Cuz he wanted the money/work. Then wrote/directed/starred in a shiatty-ass movie called "Garden State"?  it failed. And he didn't do shiat.

Yeah.

Screw him.


AmendedTFY.
 
2013-04-25 11:25:02 AM  
Braff hasn't made a movie since 2004′s Garden State

...and we were all thankful for that...
 
2013-04-25 11:50:22 AM  
Garden State wasn't bad, but he's older now.  The whiny emo douche angle isn't going to work this time.  Let's see if he has some range.
 
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