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(Huffington Post) NewsFlash Two natural gas barges explode in the city of Mobile, AL. At least three injured in the blasts. Story developing (link replaced) (w/video coverage)   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 231
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2013-04-25 01:18:13 AM

AttawaYawattA: For some of you, your news aggregator website addiction mixed poorly with the excessive Boston coverage. Now some boobies seem to be overexposed and you are jumping at your own shadows.  Take a week off from the news, you can come back fresh in May.


6,472/10.
 
2013-04-25 01:18:39 AM
Alabooma.
 
2013-04-25 01:25:11 AM

Lawnchair: Intel154: Also, to quibble with the comment about going boom, LPG goes boom.  LNG is -160 C and so missing the heat aspect of the combustion triangle.

Real-world tests being thankfully rare, there's debate on how much a LNG tanker rupture/spark would 'boom' versus (and I think the latter is more likely) not exactly explode, per se, but still go up in a fiery inferno.  The LOX in the Space Shuttle main tank was at -180C and the LH2 was at -250C.  It sure as heck burned pretty quickly.


The smart money says there'd be one hell of a BLEVE.
 
2013-04-25 01:25:51 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: IronTom: Nina Haagen Dazs: IronTom: It could be terrorism, no?

Or an accident? Possibly negligence? Must every bad thing be terrorism? That word is beginning to lose it's punch.

Too many bad things all bunched together, is suspicious.

So is anybody benefiting from all of these coincidental explosions?


The news media? Because if it's a media conspiracy, it is backfiring wonderfully.

/Apophenia as usual
//It's just particularly explosive this time
 
2013-04-25 01:26:47 AM
Live video?
 
2013-04-25 01:30:42 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: It's probably British Petroleum getting rid of some bad inventory. They often have refinery fires and other industrial accidents. Convenient ones.


Albion lightning.
 
2013-04-25 01:49:20 AM

eatin' fetus: Natural Gas seems like a horrible material to build a barge out of.


Yeah, kinda like a zeppelin coated in rocket fuel, huh?

Seriously, I laughed at your comment :D
 
2013-04-25 02:11:50 AM
Clearly, there's only one solution to this: lower taxes on oil and gas corporations, increase their subsidies, deregulate more, and for the love of God finally put in KeystoneXL.
 
2013-04-25 02:18:12 AM
That's an amazing coincidence, I barged into the bathroom a couple times tonight but the explosions were only natural gas.
 
2013-04-25 02:20:16 AM

Wireless Joe: Whatever it is, I credit small government and their refreshing lack of regulation.  We'll probably find out the barges were carrying 1,350 times the natural gas that would normally trigger safety oversight by the US Dept. of Homeland Security.


Because bidnez executives never, ever worry about getting biatch-slapped by their insurance companies and sneer at the possibility of profits.

Idiot.
 
2013-04-25 02:21:59 AM

Ringshadow: I said it before. I'll say it again.

If your industry has the ability to do massive damage to yourself/the surrounding area/civilians, you should be regulated as hard as nuclear power is now.


And the magical power of government will make everything safe, right?
 
2013-04-25 02:24:22 AM

MemeSlave: Did it cut the Taggart Bridge neatly in half?


I think I'll favorite you.
 
2013-04-25 02:26:26 AM

buzzcut73: Wireless Joe: Whatever it is, I credit small government and their refreshing lack of regulation.  We'll probably find out the barges were carrying 1,350 times the natural gas that would normally trigger safety oversight by the US Dept. of Homeland Security.

Oh, I'm sorry...the were already under DHS (Coast Guard) oversight by way of being a vessel that transported HAZMAT.
Really, just being a commercial vessel gets you Coast Guard inspections from time to time. One that hauls gas, even more often.

As far as West, TX goes, DHS oversight would have included: Is the fence high enough? Is the facility locked at night? Do they have adequate security in place? Nothing about proper storage and fire prevention in there.

I'll be interested to see what becomes of both investigations though.


BUT THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO OPERATE, DAMMIT!  So there was not enough regulation.
 
2013-04-25 02:37:40 AM
See? This is why all the freaking out over red states getting all "we don't need no government regulations we're gonna let business do what they want job growth providers derp de derp" is a waste of time. They'll let their private businesses do what they damn well please, and then shiat will start breaking, blowing up, catching on fire, or releasing toxic gas into their states. While tragic for the people of those states, it will eventually lead to the smarter folks packing up and moving somewhere else--- Somewhere where the government actually steps in and stops these sorts of things from happening.

And then we'll have an even greater concentration of intelligent people in the blue states, and dumb people in the red states, and we'll finally be able to sit back and watch the morons deregulate themselves into extinction.

The only bummer of it is that the business owners aren't forced to live IN the businesses they run. It would be just desserts for the owners of these under-regulated businesses to meet their doom as a result of their own greed and corner-cutting profit-maximizing.
 
2013-04-25 02:59:34 AM
 
2013-04-25 03:29:00 AM
Holy cow. Never see my hometown in the news unless the news is bad...
 
2013-04-25 05:36:36 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Suspect described as a druid, or a cleric with the Fire domain, of at least 15th level.


I'm betting it was a hermetic mage, at least past gauntlet, with lots of points in Creo-Ignem.

Probably House Flambeau, but they're so predictable, they're easy to frame, so...one must be open-minded.
 
2013-04-25 05:58:06 AM

neurofunkin: I live on the other side of Mobile Bay and was driving home and saw the initial explosions, at this distance I thought it was some sort of odd fireworks. Very bright even the 6 miles across the bridge.


I read this as you lived across from Michael Bay and saw explosions. The Government needs to regulate that guy.
 
2013-04-25 06:18:56 AM

IronTom: NewportBarGuy: IronTom: It could be terrorism, no?

No.

Why not?


It's terrorism when it's proven that it's terrorism and not a moment sooner. Why? Because we aren't Fox News that's why.
 
2013-04-25 07:12:04 AM
No, no, no. I distinctly remember saying, no major newsworthy explosions until at least the end of the month. Not forever. But till the end of the month. Was that to much to ask?? Another explosion free week?

Apparently so.
 
2013-04-25 07:18:06 AM
ZOMGWTFBBQ!!1!!1!1 Turism.
 
2013-04-25 07:21:08 AM

Alleyoop: Can we get a pipeline and stop hauling the gas around already?


Wrencher: Pipelines blow up too. Couple years ago in WA a couple kids who were lighting fireworks in their neighborhood got blown up because the pipeline was leaking.


Explosions while hauling gas are at least 50-to-1 compared to pipelines.  More predictable areas of concern too.
 
2013-04-25 07:55:08 AM
We need a Republican to apologize to the energy industry. "Would it make you feel better if we gave you another tax subsidy?"
 
2013-04-25 08:25:06 AM
At least it wasn't one of these...

timrileylaw.com
 
2013-04-25 08:27:24 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-25 09:22:33 AM

IronTom: jso2897: IronTom: jso2897: ontariolightning: When you leave things unregulated and pay off inspectors to keep their mouths shut, bad things happen.

Meh - no need to attribute to wickedness what can easily be attributed to stupidity and incompetence.
People can't do anything right, and sooner or later, every task gets handed off to a bonehead who can't be trusted to tie his shoes correctly.

I like that outlook. And it is right 99% of the time, 99%. But sometimes, it's not, and you have to look in the toothy mouth and measure the bite radius to be sure.

Lighten up, Francis. You'll get over it.

um, sure, just saying that there it a lot of unwanted stuff happening lately. Hopefully it is all just coincidental, but it still deserves to be looked in to carefully.


Oh, we can be absolutely sure it will be - the "chattering class" will ensure that every real and imaginary detail of everything that did and din't happen will be stirred like a festering pot of boiling shiat ad nauseum.
Don't f**king worry.
 
2013-04-25 09:49:25 AM
A federal ban on explosions would have prevented this.
 
2013-04-25 11:07:38 AM
If only there had been a good barge with a gun.
 
2013-04-25 05:00:41 PM
Jihadists or GTFO.
 
2013-04-26 02:27:04 AM

IronTom: Mrtraveler01: IronTom: Nina Haagen Dazs: IronTom: It could be terrorism, no?

Or an accident? Possibly negligence? Must every bad thing be terrorism? That word is beginning to lose it's punch.

Too many bad things all bunched together, is suspicious.

Was the explosion at the fertilizer factory in Texas terrorism?

Beat's me, how about the fire in the JFK library?


You're not wrong. Some of these events might possibly be linked in some way. The authorities might think or know something about that, but thinks that there is value in keeping it from the public. If, for instance, they were working to make a case against some person or group and don't want to tip their hand.

To those saying you are wrong, you must admit that there is a more than 0% possibility that some of the events are related. I agree that it is most unlikely and that it was probably a fluke that these things happened within a few weeks of each other. But, that should and will be investigated just in case there is something there. We have, and will again be, surprised.
 
2013-04-26 06:17:25 AM
Oh well. It's done. Will probably be fine.
 
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