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(WESH Orlando)   "I knew it was wrong, but I didn't think it would be a big deal," says the mother who left her 8 year old son alone with a gun in the house   (wesh.com) divider line 101
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2013-04-24 09:27:12 PM  
And, in other examples on how not to be a "responsible gun owner".
 
2013-04-24 09:35:04 PM  
Yeah, it never is a big deal until it is. Just like driving drunk.
 
2013-04-24 09:35:57 PM  
People have been leaving their kids alone with guns in the house for a long time. 8 is a little young to stay home alone, but otherwise I don't see the problem. My son is 10 and I have no issue leaving him home alone for short periods, even with guns in the house. He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!
 
2013-04-24 09:37:05 PM  
Great, another thread for the polarized sides of the gun debate not convince each other.  The lady wasn't responsible and shouldn't have a gun, that's all there is to it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-24 09:42:58 PM  
Well, it's Melbourne, so no big deal.
 
2013-04-24 09:44:54 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.


Something tells me you didn't read the article, did you?

Adolf Oliver Nipples: When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!


When the internet and modern media put the fact hat kids were dying horrifically and preventably in legions every year in our faces.

parkthebus: Great, another thread for the polarized sides of the gun debate not convince each other.  The lady wasn't responsible and shouldn't have a gun, that's all there is to it.


The first part I think any rational person would agree with you on. The second part is going to stir up a lot of controversy. There's a large and vocal group in this country who think that ex-criminals and the mentally ill (and I'm not talking about "I got depressed and wanted to kill myself 5 years ago" kind of ill, rather the "I hear voices from Rygel 6 telling me to do X") have an absolute right to own firearms.

There's also a large group of FARK Constitutional Scholars who think the second amendment is not subject to reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety and welfare.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-24 09:46:56 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: People have been leaving their kids alone with guns in the house for a long time. 8 is a little young to stay home alone, but otherwise I don't see the problem. My son is 10 and I have no issue leaving him home alone for short periods, even with guns in the house. He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!


Well, a bunch of them end up killing people, but; hey, no problem right?
 
2013-04-24 09:48:23 PM  

vpb: Well, a bunch of them end up killing people, but; hey, no problem right?


You have to understand the mentality people like that come from when they say stuff like that: It's just a statistic until it happens to someone in their life. Then it's an outrage.
 
2013-04-24 09:54:04 PM  
hardinparamedic:Something tells me you didn't read the article, did you?

I did read the article. The child didn't even know where the gun was if we're judging by what was printed. Knowledge of a gun's existence does not mean that it wasn't put somewhere inaccessible or that the child led the police to it. They asked a question, he responded, and that's all we have to go on.

The first part I think any rational person would agree with you on. The second part is going to stir up a lot of controversy. There's a large and vocal group in this country who think that ex-criminals and the mentally ill (and I'm not talking about "I got depressed and wanted to kill myself 5 years ago" kind of ill, rather the "I hear voices from Rygel 6 telling me to do X") have an absolute right to own firearms.

Bull. Cite?

There's also a large group of FARK Constitutional Scholars who think the second amendment is not subject to reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety and welfare.

Large? Not hardly. There's a small group of 2nd Amendment "absolutists" that go off the rails. There have ALWAYS been regulations, there are regulations now, the Supreme Court approved regulation, and even after all that you still claim that regulation is opposed when guns are perhaps the most regulated thing commonly owned in the United States. Since most people don't break laws the regulations are fairly transparent, but they exist. Thousands of them. So many, in fact, that someone like me with a solid grasp on what the gun laws are hasn't even scratched the surface.

Opposing "reasonable restriction". You're nuts.
 
2013-04-24 09:59:31 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bull. Cite?


Welcome to Circular Logic.

1) Our Mental Health System is Broken
2) We need a database to identify "mentally ill lunatics" and keep them from buying guns.
3) Databases can be used for confiscation! Second Amendment right to bear arms!
4) Databases are unconstitutional, we will not support them! Anyone who votes for them is unamerican!
5) Someone should do something about those mentally ill people!

The changes that HAVE been proposed are so ridiculously easy to loophole through it's like they don't even exist.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-04-24 09:59:38 PM  

hardinparamedic: vpb: Well, a bunch of them end up killing people, but; hey, no problem right?

You have to understand the mentality people like that come from when they say stuff like that: It's just a statistic until it happens to someone in their life. Then it's an outrage.


Oh I do, I was a dumb-ass myself when I was younger.  That doesn't mean that I have to agree with it now though.
 
2013-04-24 10:01:37 PM  

vpb: Oh I do, I was a dumb-ass myself when I was younger.  That doesn't mean that I have to agree with it now though.


Indeed. And anyone who says they were not one when they were younger is a horrible liar.
 
2013-04-24 10:04:22 PM  
hardinparamedic:

The first part I think any rational person would agree with you on. The second part is going to stir up a lot of controversy. There's a large and vocal group in this country who think that ex-criminals and the mentally ill (and I'm not talking about "I got depressed and wanted to kill myself 5 years ago" kind of ill, rather the "I hear voices from Rygel 6 telling me to do X") have an absolute right to own firearms.

My personal thought on this was that the whole debate (on Fark, and in politics) was off the mark to begin with.  The polarized sides just took extremes and railed away on each other.  What should have been done was to break bread in the middle. To have gun people (who legitimately fear the restriction of their rights by people who don't know anything about gun culture) find a common understanding with people who fear guns and want to restrict them so as to reduce violence.  Anything short of that, is just another battle in the culture war fought over by partisans.
 
2013-04-24 10:10:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Bull. Cite?

Welcome to Circular Logic.

1) Our Mental Health System is Broken
2) We need a database to identify "mentally ill lunatics" and keep them from buying guns.
3) Databases can be used for confiscation! Second Amendment right to bear arms!
4) Databases are unconstitutional, we will not support them! Anyone who votes for them is unamerican!
5) Someone should do something about those mentally ill people!

The changes that HAVE been proposed are so ridiculously easy to loophole through it's like they don't even exist.


My point-by-point response:

1) Our mental health system IS broken.
2) You know who opposes that database? The mentally ill. They claim it will stigmatize them.
3) A database of mentally ill disqualifications for the purposes of instant checks is NOT a database of gun owners.
4) Now you're just making shiat up. There are databases about everything, including guns, even in places where they're not supposed to exist.
5) Yes, we SHOULD do something about mentally ill people. Like, maybe, get them help?

There are two components to mass shootings: a mentally ill person and an inanimate object subject to the whims of its user. Fix the mental health system and the benefits are myriad. Ban a gun, and guess what? Take off the bayonet lug to avoid the dread bayonet charge and you've accomplished nothing.
 
2013-04-24 10:14:15 PM  

hardinparamedic: There's also a large group of FARK Constitutional Scholars who think the second amendment is not subject to reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety and welfare.


We're outnumbered by the Constitutional Scholars who think that there is no such thing as an unreasonable restriction on the 2nd Amendment.
 
2013-04-24 10:15:53 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: My point-by-point response:


I understand what you're saying here, but I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying those things are true, but pointing out the order of mentality demonstrated by that article. But, I want to point something out:

1) Yes, you're absolutely right. However, this is not what's being addressed. It's doublespeak when you listen to their words, and look at their actions.
2) Also the 50,000 members and the Manufacturers which back the NRA. They claim it is one step away from Obama personally marching in to confiscate their guns.
3) You're thinking rationally. That's not what people who don't want ANY form of expanded background checks see.
4) No, I'm not. This is actually an argument being made by people who are against background checks being expanded.
5) I agree with you fully, totally, and completely. Maybe something along the lines of a Semi-single payer system (think the Swiss and Japan)? Or even, god forbid, a single payer system with the ability to purchase golden-standard care insurance separately for those that can afford it? Nah, that'd be Socialist Communism or something.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: There are two components to mass shootings: a mentally ill person and an inanimate object subject to the whims of its user. Fix the mental health system and the benefits are myriad. Ban a gun, and guess what? Take off the bayonet lug to avoid the dread bayonet charge and you've accomplished nothing.


You're right. However, I'm not arguing about banning guns. I'm pointing out that the amount of double speak on the issue out there is insane at the moment. Say one thing, do another.
 
2013-04-24 10:45:51 PM  
The officer also asked if the boy knew of any weapons in the home.
"My mom has a pistol in case someone breaks in. She hasn't used it though," the officer recalled the boy saying in the affidavit.


No mention of the officer actually seeing said weapon although she was charged with failure to secure a firearm.

Details, details, details... we don't got 'em
 
2013-04-24 10:49:48 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: People have been leaving their kids alone with guns in the house for a long time. 8 is a little young to stay home alone, but otherwise I don't see the problem. My son is 10 and I have no issue leaving him home alone for short periods, even with guns in the house. He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!


ditto
 
2013-04-24 11:13:38 PM  

vpb: Well, it's Melbourne, so no big deal.


Lol, used to know it well, no surprise there.
 
2013-04-24 11:24:13 PM  
My sister and I grew up in a house with a father who was from rural Kansas. When he grew up, everyone kept a loaded firearm by the bed in a holster. And we grew up that way too. And I was occasionally alone in the house with a loaded 357 Magnum in the house in a holster by my parents bed. I'd never do that with my own kids, but that's not unheard of in the Great Plains states. Not unheard of at all.
 
2013-04-24 11:55:04 PM  

hardinparamedic: When the internet and modern media put the fact hat kids were dying horrifically and preventably in legions every year in our faces.


If you're using "legion" in the traditional Roman sense, you're off by at least an order of magnitude. Making up stuff doesn't help anybody.
 
2013-04-25 12:19:55 AM  

Somacandra: My sister and I grew up in a house with a father who was from rural Kansas. When he grew up, everyone kept a loaded firearm by the bed in a holster. And we grew up that way too. And I was occasionally alone in the house with a loaded 357 Magnum in the house in a holster by my parents bed. I'd never do that with my own kids, but that's not unheard of in the Great Plains states. Not unheard of at all.


I'm from rural Kansas. we always had guns in the house, but never loaded. They were kept in an unlocked gun cabinet in the front room. But the one thing that was drilled into us from the start was "you do NOT touch these guns", and I never did.
 
2013-04-25 12:27:09 AM  

Fubini: If you're using "legion" in the traditional Roman sense, you're off by at least an order of magnitude. Making up stuff doesn't help anybody.


Making stuff up, you say?

Historically, it's never been a better time to be a child. Because the overwhelming likelihood is you won't die of preventable disease or trauma before reaching adulthood. Having a large family is viewed as a choice today, as little as 60 years ago it was a necessity because there was a good chance one or more would die.
 
2013-04-25 12:40:18 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!


I hate to break this to you... Just because your mother did something, doesn't automatically make it right.
 
2013-04-25 12:43:06 AM  
 
2013-04-25 12:44:12 AM  

Somacandra: My sister and I grew up in a house with a father who was from rural Kansas. When he grew up, everyone kept a loaded firearm by the bed in a holster. And we grew up that way too. And I was occasionally alone in the house with a loaded 357 Magnum in the house in a holster by my parents bed. I'd never do that with my own kids, but that's not unheard of in the Great Plains states. Not unheard of at all.


I'm not a gun nut so I don't know if it applies in your individual case because I'm seeing both rifles and revolvers on a wikipedia search of 357 magnum, but I would think different types of guns would have very different eases of use by very small children, I was thinking length in particular here and thinking without any knowledge about types of guns that would have been popular in the past versus today.  I'll just end there and let someone who really knows something pick up on it if they wish.
 
2013-04-25 01:07:56 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: I hate to break this to you... Just because your mother did something, doesn't automatically make it right.


There is truth in this.

I remember riding in the back of the pick up truck all the time as a kid. 60mph down a hilly two lane road. at the time it was a blast, now I think "what in the hell were my parents thinking??".
 
2013-04-25 01:21:15 AM  

12349876: I'm not a gun nut so I don't know if it applies in your individual case because I'm seeing both rifles and revolvers on a wikipedia search of 357 magnum, but I would think different types of guns would have very different eases of use by very small children


Ah, perhaps I wasn't clear. This was a revolver. My father does not believe in automatics--they jam too often for him. I shot it a few times at our shooting range, but usually using 38 special ammo since it didn't kick as much. Never had to use to outside that context, thankfully

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log_jammin: I'm from rural Kansas. we always had guns in the house, but never loaded...But the one thing that was drilled into us from the start was "you do NOT touch these guns", and I never did.


Yeah, you were smart. My father made it quite explicit that I would get my ass kicked up and down if I ever touched it. Gotta confess I wasn't as smart as you . I took it out of the holster a few times when no one else was around. Never did anything stupid with it other than check the chambers. I remember my Mom challenging him on keeping it loaded, but he was firm. The whole point was to have it ready to kill an intruder violating the house at a moment's notice. Once there was a bit of a misunderstanding when I came home late at night without announcing myself but it didn't get too threatening. After that I always made a lot of noise coming into the house as I got older precisely to avoid any further misunderstandings. Like I said, it seems creepy now looking back on it, but it was just the way I learned to grow up. I was somewhat of latchkey kid for a bit of time here and there but not really too much until I was a teenager. Not when I was 8, like TFA.
 
2013-04-25 01:29:41 AM  

Somacandra: Gotta confess I wasn't as smart as you .


neither was my half brother. His step dad did keep his guns loaded, and my half brother decided to show the gun to his friend. His friend is now a vegetable in a wheelchair.

Looking back, I think my dad telling me about what happened with my half brother may have made "smart" when it came to guns. I don't know.

sad for the kid in the article and sad for my half brothers friend.
 
2013-04-25 02:07:05 AM  

log_jammin: Somacandra: My sister and I grew up in a house with a father who was from rural Kansas. When he grew up, everyone kept a loaded firearm by the bed in a holster. And we grew up that way too. And I was occasionally alone in the house with a loaded 357 Magnum in the house in a holster by my parents bed. I'd never do that with my own kids, but that's not unheard of in the Great Plains states. Not unheard of at all.

I'm from rural Kansas. we always had guns in the house, but never loaded. They were kept in an unlocked gun cabinet in the front room. But the one thing that was drilled into us from the start was "you do NOT touch these guns", and I never did.


Growing up i and most of my friends had the same deal. Neither the presence nor the absence of guns in the home was considered remarkable. Invitations to go shooting or hunting were common but I don't recall being invited to just look at someone's guns. The culture around guns has changed and not for the better. In too many homes they're just very dangerous paperweights.
 
2013-04-25 02:13:25 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: In too many homes they're just very dangerous paperweights.


I agree with that 100%.
 
2013-04-25 03:37:02 AM  
So the entire problem was the kid being left home alone when he was 8.  So why the obsession over the gun by both the reporter and the police?  Just to be dicks?
 
2013-04-25 03:40:55 AM  

gingerjet: So the entire problem was the kid being left home alone when he was 8.  So why the obsession over the gun by both the reporter and the police?  Just to be dicks?


Liberals and authoritative arseholes tend to not like private gun ownership, so yes, just to be dicks.
 
2013-04-25 03:41:14 AM  

hardinparamedic: When the internet and modern media put the fact hat kids were dying horrifically and preventably in legions every year in our faces.


This. I hate all the facebook posts I see like "share if you rode a bike without a helmet when you were a kid and turned out fine. whargarbble helicopter parents."

Yeah, the kids that didn't wear helmets and didn't turn out fine can't repost because they're dead. It's selection bias at it's worst. I'm sure lots of people were alone with guns in the house when they were kids. When I was a kid, I found a loaded revolver in my grandparent's house. And I'm still alive, but lots of kids aren't.
 
2013-04-25 03:43:14 AM  
When I saw the headline I thought for sure the kid had killed himself. Glad that's not the case.

TFA doesn't say if the gun was loaded. I'm guessing since the mother was charged with "failure to secure a firearm" it was, and it was sitting somewhere Junior could get to it.
 
2013-04-25 03:45:18 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: When I saw the headline I thought for sure the kid had killed himself. Glad that's not the case.


guess I should actually read the article.
 
2013-04-25 04:00:20 AM  

hardinparamedic: Adolf Oliver Nipples: He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

Something tells me you didn't read the article, did you?

Adolf Oliver Nipples: When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!

When the internet and modern media put the fact hat kids were dying horrifically and preventably in legions every year in our faces.

parkthebus: Great, another thread for the polarized sides of the gun debate not convince each other.  The lady wasn't responsible and shouldn't have a gun, that's all there is to it.

The first part I think any rational person would agree with you on. The second part is going to stir up a lot of controversy. There's a large and vocal group in this country who think that ex-criminals and the mentally ill (and I'm not talking about "I got depressed and wanted to kill myself 5 years ago" kind of ill, rather the "I hear voices from Rygel 6 telling me to do X") have an absolute right to own firearms.

There's also a large group of FARK Constitutional Scholars who think the second amendment is not subject to reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety and welfare.




Your right. Only rich people should be able to be protected by firearms. Who the fark are we to even question that?
 
2013-04-25 04:02:16 AM  
Hmmm..... grew up with guns in every closet in the house.... somehow survived.  Of course the ammo was all locked up in the garage.  When I was 10 I would take a .22, ride my 'ten speed' along a busy US highway to the outskirts of town, and set up targets at the city 'dump' and shoot through a box.

This was in the 70s when all kids were more or less 'free range.'

Looking back today, I am more worried about how I survived the bike ride--- road had no paved shoulder.

All this said, I own no guns today--- brother had a gambling problem and pawned them all off :(  But what do I need a gun for?  I don't hunt, and I don't plan on shooting anyone.
 
2013-04-25 04:05:09 AM  

randomjsa: gingerjet: So the entire problem was the kid being left home alone when he was 8.  So why the obsession over the gun by both the reporter and the police?  Just to be dicks?

Liberals and authoritative arseholes tend to not like private gun ownership, so yes, just to be dicks.


Yeah,
that's
it.
 
2013-04-25 04:06:19 AM  
Funny.  I started being left home alone when I was 8.  Not overnight or anything, but for up to 12 hours or so at a time.  There were guns in the apartment.  They were stashed out of sight, but I knew where to find them and they weren't locked up.  Same with the ammo.  By there I'd also being going to the range with Dad for a couple of years, so I knew not to fark around with them.  And we lived off the base, in a foreign country.

Kid was an idiot.  Mom was an idiot.
 
2013-04-25 04:09:39 AM  

parkthebus: Great, another thread for the polarized sides of the gun debate not convince each other.  The lady wasn't responsible and shouldn't have a gun child, that's all there is to it.


There, I fixed that for you. Leaving your child home alone when they are big enough to take care of themselves for a few hours is no big deal. Leaving them home alone and not answering your phone is a rather different matter. It essentially sounds like this lady was just leaving the kid there and hoping for the best instead of telling him who to contact if he couldn't get her on the phone. Taking the gun out of the picture completely there are dozens or hundreds of scenarios where the kid could have been in danger, injured, or killed.
 
2013-04-25 04:09:55 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: People have been leaving their kids alone with guns in the house for a long time. 8 is a little young to stay home alone, but otherwise I don't see the problem. My son is 10 and I have no issue leaving him home alone for short periods, even with guns in the house. He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!


It's got nothing to do with the gun. The child is eight. Eight is too young to be home alone over a weekend, even if there is no gun within a nuclear mile of the house. Yeah, I got left alone all day too when I was 9. But not all weekend. It says right in the article the kid was scared--8-year olds get scared, and I bet your 10-year old would get scared too, if you were gone all weekend. It's just too young yet. And as to what the mother actually did wrong, it's right in the headline.
  "I knew it was wrong, but I didn't think it would be a big deal," Martell told officers, according to the affidavit.

She didn't think.
 
fdr
2013-04-25 04:11:09 AM  

Fark It: hardinparamedic: There's also a large group of FARK Constitutional Scholars who think the second amendment is not subject to reasonable restrictions in the interest of public safety and welfare.

We're outnumbered by the Constitutional Scholars who think that there is no such thing as an unreasonable restriction on the 2nd Amendment.


Not at all.
 
2013-04-25 04:12:37 AM  

filter: Hmmm..... grew up with guns in every closet in the house.... somehow survived.  Of course the ammo was all locked up in the garage.  When I was 10 I would take a .22, ride my 'ten speed' along a busy US highway to the outskirts of town, and set up targets at the city 'dump' and shoot through a box.

This was in the 70s when all kids were more or less 'free range.'

Looking back today, I am more worried about how I survived the bike ride--- road had no paved shoulder.

All this said, I own no guns today--- brother had a gambling problem and pawned them all off :(  But what do I need a gun for?  I don't hunt, and I don't plan on shooting anyone.


Zombies?
 
2013-04-25 04:22:00 AM  
I had riles and shotguns and bought one for each of my boys when they turned 12, with the understanding that they were not to touch them unless I was with them.  One day I came home early (usually worked 12 hour days) but this day cam home after 10.  I pulled into the yard and my son was just walking out the door with his shotgun.  He saw me, walked back in and then proceeded to deny he did anything.  I then went to the store, bought trigger locks and put them on them because he proved to me that he couldn't be trusted.

A year or so later a deputy came to the door and a neighbor had accused him of shooting their dog.  I took the deputy to where my guns were and showed him they all had trigger locks and then produced the keys from my pocket and told him I was the only one that had them.  If I hadn't, it probaby would have been bad.  Kids have a natural curiosity and we can either train them and then watch them or just not give a fark about what they do (and I'd say that is what happened with the "mass shooters") which will automatically backfire.  If I had kids around the house now, I would definitely have them locked to prevent them from getting them.

Guns aside, this woman should NEVER have left an 8 year old boy alone for the weekend.  WTF happened to common sense?  Are we all getting that selfish that we can't even take care of our own properly?  It boggles the mind.
 
2013-04-25 04:26:17 AM  
StoPPeRmobile:

Your right. Only rich people should be able to be protected by firearms. Who the fark are we to even question that?

jtjacobs.net

I'll take "Things nobody said" for 500, Alex.
 
2013-04-25 04:28:16 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: People have been leaving their kids alone with guns in the house for a long time. 8 is a little young to stay home alone, but otherwise I don't see the problem. My son is 10 and I have no issue leaving him home alone for short periods, even with guns in the house. He's been taught properly and the guns are locked up or otherwise concealed and unloaded.

When did we become such pussies about this stuff? When I was 9 my mother left me and my 10-year-old sister to our own devices every day. She got us a pool pass, made sure we had food in the house, and left us to our own devices. We'd ride our bikes to the next town for something to do. And *GASP* there were guns in the house. The horror!



How about when someone breaks into a house full of guns and all there is there to stop them is a 10 year old.  But I'm sure that could never happen to you.

Or how about when a kid shoots another kid because they were able to get into the locked up gun cabinet to play but again, could never happen to you.

Or how about we stop thinking that we live in the same world our parents or even we grew up in.
 
2013-04-25 04:37:57 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: I had riles and shotguns and bought one for each of my boys when they turned 12, with the understanding that they were not to touch them unless I was with them.  One day I came home early (usually worked 12 hour days) but this day cam home after 10.  I pulled into the yard and my son was just walking out the door with his shotgun.  He saw me, walked back in and then proceeded to deny he did anything.  I then went to the store, bought trigger locks and put them on them because he proved to me that he couldn't be trusted.

A year or so later a deputy came to the door and a neighbor had accused him of shooting their dog.  I took the deputy to where my guns were and showed him they all had trigger locks and then produced the keys from my pocket and told him I was the only one that had them.  If I hadn't, it probaby would have been bad.  Kids have a natural curiosity and we can either train them and then watch them or just not give a fark about what they do (and I'd say that is what happened with the "mass shooters") which will automatically backfire.  If I had kids around the house now, I would definitely have them locked to prevent them from getting them.

Guns aside, this woman should NEVER have left an 8 year old boy alone for the weekend.  WTF happened to common sense?  Are we all getting that selfish that we can't even take care of our own properly?  It boggles the mind.


Why would you show the deputy anything?
 
2013-04-25 04:39:32 AM  

mexican bathtub cheese: Bigdogdaddy: I had riles and shotguns and bought one for each of my boys when they turned 12, with the understanding that they were not to touch them unless I was with them.  One day I came home early (usually worked 12 hour days) but this day cam home after 10.  I pulled into the yard and my son was just walking out the door with his shotgun.  He saw me, walked back in and then proceeded to deny he did anything.  I then went to the store, bought trigger locks and put them on them because he proved to me that he couldn't be trusted.

A year or so later a deputy came to the door and a neighbor had accused him of shooting their dog.  I took the deputy to where my guns were and showed him they all had trigger locks and then produced the keys from my pocket and told him I was the only one that had them.  If I hadn't, it probaby would have been bad.  Kids have a natural curiosity and we can either train them and then watch them or just not give a fark about what they do (and I'd say that is what happened with the "mass shooters") which will automatically backfire.  If I had kids around the house now, I would definitely have them locked to prevent them from getting them.

Guns aside, this woman should NEVER have left an 8 year old boy alone for the weekend.  WTF happened to common sense?  Are we all getting that selfish that we can't even take care of our own properly?  It boggles the mind.

Why would you show the deputy anything?


I had nothing to hide.  I'm pretty white bread.  *shrugs*
 
2013-04-25 04:42:03 AM  
Anyone else think of the line "I knew the gun was loaded but I didn't think it killed" from Smuggler's Blues when they read the headline?
 
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