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(Pacific Standard Magazine)   New KALQ keyboard design improves typing speeds on mobile devices by 34%   (psmag.com) divider line 70
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2013-04-24 02:36:56 PM
But apart from a cult of contrarians and computer science geeks (e.g. my brother), Dvorak has caught on about as well as Friendster.

I would argue, but I am both a contrarian and a computer science geek.

/No I'm not.
 
2013-04-24 02:49:45 PM
Gmail Tap concept is better.
 
2013-04-24 03:09:15 PM
Is it better designed? Yes.

Will it catch on?No. No it won't.
 
2013-04-24 03:40:29 PM
Korean keyboards are laid out like this too... All of the vowels are on one side, most of the consonants are on the other... Every syllable typed uses both sides about equally.
 
2013-04-24 03:54:06 PM
How hard is it to type: LOL c u l8r
 
2013-04-24 03:54:38 PM
On my android stuff, I use Messagease. It's a pain to learn at first if you don't download the game too, but it's hands down the best "one handed" keyboard I've used. I prefer being able to type with just my thumb. The fact that it's free doesn't hurt either.

/my thumb sounds fat
 
2013-04-24 03:55:18 PM
After 35 years of pretty much constant usage, QWERTY is ingrained in my brain. Doesn't matter what I'm typing on, in my head I see a QWERTY keyboard.
 
2013-04-24 03:58:11 PM
can iphones have swype yet?
 
2013-04-24 03:58:13 PM
While it might be better than a regular style keyboard, it's still nowhere near as good as Swype.
 
2013-04-24 03:59:10 PM

PsyLord: How hard is it to type: LOL c u l8r


Pretty easy:  .-../---/.-..  -.-.  ..-  .-../-/.-.

All I need is a single key to send it.

/Changed it to "LTR", because numbers are longer than letters.
 
2013-04-24 04:00:54 PM
Is it true the black KALQ keyboards are two inches bigger than the white ones?
 
2013-04-24 04:02:57 PM
KALQ?

www.behindthevoiceactors.com

Grand-grand-grand-grand poppa?
 
2013-04-24 04:06:31 PM
I've used Dvorak for touch typing for over a decade. I still use QWERTY on my phone because Android lacks dvorak support, especially for the better 3rd party keyboards. I have no interest in learning a thumb only keyboard layout.
 
2013-04-24 04:10:19 PM

almandot: can iphones have swype yet?


Swype is an inferior way to type out text. Tapping on the iOS keyboard makes more sense.
Well until Apple invents it, then it will be revolutionary and no one can type without it.
 
2013-04-24 04:10:49 PM
The issue I see is that for any kind of serious message, I'll pull out a Bluetooth QWERTY keyboard and do my standard 80+ wpm.  For the rest of the messages, I don't care to retrain my brain and break my QWERTY habits just to get my 10 word text message out a half second faster.
 
2013-04-24 04:11:16 PM
www.kalq935.com
 
2013-04-24 04:11:54 PM
Speed Test: QWERTY no swiping!  QWERTY no swiping!  QWERTY no swiping!
 
2013-04-24 04:16:09 PM

almandot: can iphones have swype yet?


New android versions have swype basically built in to the stock keyboard, and I have also tried swype by itself. You're not missing anything.
 
2013-04-24 04:18:49 PM
I've tried both the built-in "swype" on my Galaxy and Swype.  I prefer the real thing, but both are far superior to any kind of tapping input.
 
2013-04-24 04:27:22 PM

meanmutton: While it might be better than a regular style keyboard, it's still nowhere near as good as Swype.


Absolutely. Anyone trying to improve the process should be trying to improve upon Swype, not QWERTY.
 
2013-04-24 04:27:41 PM

PsyLord: How hard is it to type: LOL c u l8r


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2013-04-24 04:30:32 PM
Swype is OK, the beta was on my first smartphone and the new android I have has it build into the OS. It's generally handy but it can be tough to do less-common words with it (or obvs. many proper names, abbreviations, etc.) I use it as my primary but a more intuitive keyboard than "qwerty jammed onto a touchscreen" would pique my interest.

I never grasped 8pen but a friend of mine who trained himself on it got really fast with it, even without looking at phone screen, it's sort of a rotary phone system. Interesting concept.
 
2013-04-24 04:34:06 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't thumb-type on phones and tablets?
 
2013-04-24 04:43:48 PM

sxacho: Speed Test: QWERTY no swiping!  QWERTY no swiping!  QWERTY no swiping!


OH MAAAAAAAAN!
 
2013-04-24 04:43:51 PM
I have an ancient Razr phone.  I have fought against upgrading to any kind of smartphone because my hands are freakishly big, and the touch screens are apparently sized for a preteen girl typing with her pinky.  Trying to type ANY damn thing on my gf's android phone is an exercise in frustration.  I go from zero to angry in 3.5 seconds.

Yes, it can very slow entering one character at a time on my phone.  But I know what button I'm pressing, and I know exactly what's going up onto the screen as a result.  Prediction ("autocorrect" presumes that I was wrong to begin with, go fark yourself) algorithms piss me off.  Not being able to press the teensy keys pisses me off.

/android needs a "mash the phone repeatedly to order our special dialing wand" feature
//the interface to google maps also pisses me off
///mobile technology is a fascinating question
////current crop of "smartphones" ain't the answer
 
2013-04-24 04:44:49 PM
Have never typed on a mobile device better than when using this relic.

www.blogcdn.com
If it didn't take so long to boot it would probably be in my pocket today.
 
2013-04-24 04:53:00 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Have never typed on a mobile device better than when using this relic.

[www.blogcdn.com image 324x421]
If it didn't take so long to boot it would probably be in my pocket today.


Tangentially -- I miss the Treo. I miss my Treo.
 
2013-04-24 04:57:48 PM
Colemak for life.
 
2013-04-24 04:58:32 PM
 
2013-04-24 04:59:15 PM
is there a taste to the kalq?
 
2013-04-24 05:08:50 PM

PsyLord: How hard is it to type: LOL c u l8r


oklahoma
 
2013-04-24 05:17:45 PM
Swype makes texting and driving a breeze kids.
 
2013-04-24 05:22:56 PM

Snapper Carr: After 35 years of pretty much constant usage, QWERTY is ingrained in my brain. Doesn't matter what I'm typing on, in my head I see a QWERTY keyboard.


I am in the same boat. Hell, when someone asks me how to spell a word, I end up moving my fingers like I am typing on a keyboard while spelling it.
 
2013-04-24 05:24:46 PM
The Android KALQ app will be available for download in due course.

Then why am I even reading this shiat? I had to Google just to find out it's not even released yet..

Terrible marketing already
 
2013-04-24 05:25:18 PM
Count me as another fan of Swype. It allows me to do regular typing as well as swype, and the voice recognition feature is pretty neato too. Once you get the hang of it, it's actually really fun.

Also, semi-relevant XKCD:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-04-24 05:25:45 PM
I use t9. Seriously. People make fun of me. But I can type a text without ever looking at my phone.
 
2013-04-24 05:27:07 PM
No love for Swiftkey Flow?
 
2013-04-24 05:28:42 PM

VTGremlin: No love for Swiftkey Flow?


I use swiftkey for tablets.. The Split keyboard is a must on my Nexus 10.. On my Nexus 4 I use the stock Android 4.2.2 keyboard which has Swype style typing built in now..
 
2013-04-24 05:35:22 PM
Yes, but will it run QWOP?
 
2013-04-24 05:56:55 PM
i cvn voujh forr it, i*m usung ti rhigt nowe @ ti's workinz gteaat, mush brtter th2n qwerzty.
 
2013-04-24 06:01:41 PM

blahpers: Am I the only one that doesn't thumb-type on phones and tablets?


Yes. You are the only one.
 
2013-04-24 06:03:44 PM

over_and_done: I have an ancient Razr phone.  I have fought against upgrading to any kind of smartphone because my hands are freakishly big, and the touch screens are apparently sized for a preteen girl typing with her pinky.  Trying to type ANY damn thing on my gf's android phone is an exercise in frustration.  I go from zero to angry in 3.5 seconds.

Yes, it can very slow entering one character at a time on my phone.  But I know what button I'm pressing, and I know exactly what's going up onto the screen as a result.  Prediction ("autocorrect" presumes that I was wrong to begin with, go fark yourself) algorithms piss me off.  Not being able to press the teensy keys pisses me off.

/android needs a "mash the phone repeatedly to order our special dialing wand" feature
//the interface to google maps also pisses me off
///mobile technology is a fascinating question
////current crop of "smartphones" ain't the answer


Download a T9 keyboard for Android? https://play.google.com/store/search?q=t9+keyboard

Or buy yourself a Galaxy Note series device, which is one of the larger smartphones currently available.
 
2013-04-24 06:11:05 PM

VTGremlin: No love for Swiftkey Flow?


Swiftkey Flow, I love you long time.

/ When I'm not dictating using the voice command.
 
2013-04-24 06:16:02 PM

blahpers: Am I the only one that doesn't thumb-type on phones and tablets?


By the way, I respect your ideas about Teachers and Pay. :-)
 
2013-04-24 07:08:20 PM
I'm currently using the demo of SwiftKey, and I really don't see what the big deal behind it is. Yes it has prediction, but so does every on-screen keyboard designed since the iPhone. Even my old number pad T9 phones had a decent prediction system built in! It is weird, but I also find relying too much on prediction actually slows me down, as I stop to think harder on what word I want to come next, but that is probably just me.

Swype is absolutely brilliant, and it is ashame it isn't more well known. The main reason I switched was because the Jellybean update broke the auto-correct on my S3 for some reason, and since the built in swipe was absolute garbage so I never bothered with it. On small screen phones (under 4") I found it next to impossible to type unless I hold the device horizontally. On my S3, while I can type with the device vertically, its slim form and smooth back makes it difficult to move from using my pointer finger to touch the screen to my thumbs. Swype lets me type while still using my pointer to interact with the device.

RIM/Blackberry should be thanking their lucky stars that Apple didn't implement a Swype like interface on their first iPhone, otherwise they would be looking at extinction 5 years ago rather than today.

/SwiftKey Flow is alright, but nothing beats a classic
 
2013-04-24 07:11:28 PM
Side topic, but how do people find typing on a 7" tablet keyboard compared to a physical? I'm thinking of getting on for my last year of college and adding a Bluetooth keyboard to it, but if typing on the screen works well enough perhaps I'll just use that. I don't have too much trouble overall using a touch screen to type, but to make notes in class I'm assuming I will need as much speed as I can get.
 
2013-04-24 07:12:26 PM
/was thinking of getting a Chromebook, but to get a decent mouse would cost about the same as it would to get a keyboard
 
2013-04-24 07:23:14 PM
KALQ FM won't be happy about the name.
 
2013-04-24 08:06:12 PM

Electrify: Side topic, but how do people find typing on a 7" tablet keyboard compared to a physical? I'm thinking of getting on for my last year of college and adding a Bluetooth keyboard to it, but if typing on the screen works well enough perhaps I'll just use that. I don't have too much trouble overall using a touch screen to type, but to make notes in class I'm assuming I will need as much speed as I can get.


It's definitely slower and I can't hit longer words quite as well. I'm also far more prone to typos on my tablet.
 
2013-04-24 08:26:31 PM

Kredal: Korean keyboards are laid out like this too... All of the vowels are on one side, most of the consonants are on the other... Every syllable typed uses both sides about equally.


I'd bet it's closer to 60/40 left/right. There are far more Korean characters with two consonants and one vowel than there are characters with two vowels and one consonant ("w" vowels). Characters with 3 consonants are rare enough to not affect the ratio that much. I did a a couple quick tests on some paragraphs and it came up 59/41 for both paragraphs.
 
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