justtray: Yeah, of course it was fueled by radical Islam. So what?Radical Christianity anyone? Should we discriminate against Christians?I'm down for disciminating against both sects of religion, or all religion, if that's what we want. Lets not get anecdotal here, you might not like the results.
hardinparamedic: Amos Quito: Thanks for the clarification.143 people PER DAY is a LOT of people - over 53 thousand per year.Strangely when I look at the FBI Murder Statistics for 2010, I see 6,284 victims for the entire year - or about 17 per day.Nothing to brag about, to be sure, but a far cry from the 143 you mentioned earlier.Maybe you're using a different source - or maybe a different definition of "die from violent crimes"?/Further clarification appreciatedI think the CDC is using different qualifiers, then.They pull violent death statistics from death certificates, not from crime reports.
hardinparamedic: They also count suicide as a violent death, so even subtracting from that the 2010 statistics gave 16,000 deaths from violence in the US. That's around 40 or so per day in the US.
hardinparamedic: On the other hand, it should be something to say that we have more violent death than a country undergoing active insurgency.
atomicmask: No, I wouldn't, because im not a whiny twat muslim. I would try to make friends, try to adjust, adapt, and overcome my problems.Everything you said sounds like excuses for islam. It wasn't that he was infatuated with his islamic culture, it was that he was persecuted and excluded from ours! It wasn't that he gave up boxing because momma carpet bower said it wasn't islamic, it was because we didn't bend over backwards and let him on the olympic team! IT MUST BE OUR FAULT, NOT HIS!fark you and apologetics like you, making excuses for shiat heels like this who kill in the name of islam.
mark12A: No, Muslim Extremism is the big problem. Christian extremism is the small problem.
rkiller1: somedude210: what ties to radical islam are there, exactly?Ummm, perhaps the bombers were of the Islamic faith and acted radically?
AdolfOliverPanties: Seriously. Has ANYONE been reporting that? Or is this just more Fox bullshiat completely made up out of whole cloth?
Diogenes: The world is wrong for not conforming to Fox's views.I'm not sure what annoys me more - the stupidity or the arrogance with which they express it.
jshine: The "Islam is evil" argument is facile (as are most news articles from Fox News), but so is arguing that religion is irrelevant. There is obviously a violence problem in many Islamic countries that appears to draw motivation and strength from religion. Its certainly a small minority, but even a small percentage of a billion people is a big problem. Religion (and culture, since the two are intimately intertwined) is definitely a factor here.Without reading too much of this thread, I'm not sure where you stand on the issue (so I may be arguing with you or agreeing with you), but that's my $0.02.
hardinparamedic: Amos Quito: Ah, I see. The misunderstanding arose from your use of the term "violent CRIME", and the CDC does not require "criminal intent" when they're categorizing "violent DEATHS". A dude could be hit in the head and killed by a stray golf ball and the CDC would call that a "violent death".Uh, what?Violent Death involves Criminal Acts.
lolpix: ox45tallboy: Too bad the LameStream Media never reports on that sort of stuff, amirite?People who use expressions like "Lame Stream Media" go on the red list.
atomicmask: Mrtraveler01: atomicmask: I noticed the history of islam shut up your "islam has a peaceful history" argument pretty fast.I noticed the history of Christianity too. Why do you seem reluctant to recognize it?Let me help you with something.I DONT GIVE A shiat ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. BUT BUT BUT CHRISTIANS DOESN'T WORK ON ME, IM A NON-BELIEVER.Now, can you stop trying to shift attention away from the culture at hand onto another one because Islam is so god damn undefendable you have to shift blame?
Madbassist1: Don't let the fact that Eastern Orthodox Christianity wouldn't even be recognizable as Christianity to most American
Somacandra: mark12A: No, Muslim Extremism is the big problem. Christian extremism is the small problem.[upload.wikimedia.org image 720x540]I'm sure the 8,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys genocidally murdered by Serbian Orthodox Christians in the 1995 Srebrenica Massacre will appreciate that. As will the over 50,000 Bosnian women systematically raped by Serbian Orthodox Christians during the Bosnian War as a form of ethnic cleansing. In the meantime, you really should keep up with world events a little more. Then you won't look as stupid.
atomicmask: Mrtraveler01: atomicmask: Mrtraveler01: atomicmask: fark you and apologetics like you, making excuses for shiat heels like this who kill in the name of islam.I hate people who kill in the name of everything and not just those who kill in the name of Islam like you seem to do.I have issue with Islam because i have studied it, have knowledge of it, and have seen its effect on the world. It is a plague, a horrible primitive theocratic movement that drags every single culture it infects back 600 years. It makes property of women, it destroys historical sites of whatever culture it infects, it destroys the personal rights of all people under its totalitarian cloak, and it abuses and destroys animals it finds unclean. It is a god damn mental illness of the highest order. ANYONE, anyone who values any sort of personal liberty, human rights, animals rights, or religious freedom should look good and hard at what islam does to whatever country it gets a foot hold in, and instantly begin fighting against it and doing your best to keep it out of whatever place you hold dear.The irony of course is that one could say the same about Christianity, especially during the Dark Ages.Whether it was intentional or not, it was still a very funny post.The major difference being, christianity during the dark ages...happened in the dark ages. Islam during the dark ages is still happening now.
scott88008: You can't have it both ways. Marx clearly stated that religion was the "opiate of the people"
russsssman: Clearly you are an idiot and part of the PC police. Maybe you should start with the fact he read jihadist websites and magazines, then follow that up with his mother today yelling "AAAAhblablbah Akbhar!". Take your BS to some other country.
russsssman: somedude210: what ties to radical islam are there, exactly? The older brother got pissy and used religion as a means to an end. He didn't receive teachings from any jihadist imam, he didn't go out and proclaim that Allah's way is the only way. He was a very devote Muslim that did terrible things but one did not cause the other.You've got a legitimate issue with his mental stability, that's good, we all have questions about his stability, but if you're going to blame radical Islam as reason for the bombings, than you're an idiot and don't actually care about the real reasons for it, you just want to kill brown people because they're different than you./assholesClearly you are an idiot and part of the PC police. Maybe you should start with the fact he read jihadist websites and magazines, then follow that up with his mother today yelling "AAAAhblablbah Akbhar!". Take your BS to some other country.
Brick-House: Thankfully, there are other ways to get the word out. But of course, suubby is missing the point. This like the Abortion Murder Doctor Trail is not being acurrately covered by the main stream media because it doesn't mesh with the left's view of the world.The main stream media has an "Ignore it, and it will go away" mentatiality when it comes to issues like this. And the list is long on stories that do not recieve adequate coverage.
mark12A: No, Muslim Extremism is the big problem. Christian extremism is the small problem.The Westboro tards are not shooting and bombing all over the world. The Muslims are. Every. Single. Day.
aspAddict: Then there was the article that stated they let the driver go
aspAddict: Also, it's not that much of a leap to tie these guys to "radical Islam"
"I had an agreement with at least one person to attack the United States in retaliation for US support of Israel and in retaliation of the killing of innocent and civilian Muslim populations in Palestine, especially in the blockade of Gaza, and in retaliation for the killing of innocent and civilian Muslim populations in Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and beyond, most of them women, children, and noncombatants."
ProdigalSigh: For motivation, my money's on the wife (i.e. relationship troubles, not blaming her) being the root cause. Considering all the pictures I saw of her wherein she was still wearing more traditional Muslim garb, she might have rejected him but not the religion, leading him to... do what he did. Dumbass younger brother tagged along and as an MIT student probably only so he could do the bomb construction.
atomicmask: Yeah, no ties at all...Besides them stating it was due to islam, they were disgusted with western culture and didn't get it, and the whole al quada published magazine they read to get the ideas of how to make the bombs, but besides all of that proof there was NO ties to radical islam..
AdolfOliverPanties: In the week following the terror attack on the Boston Marathon, lefties and their media clones have been desperate to point out the attack had nothing to do with those two scary words. After all, journalists and pundits have had time to reflect on the bombing - from the safety of their posh offices and not Boston's crowded hospitals. The brothers were just poor and misunderstood. It can't be their fault.Seriously. Has ANYONE been reporting that? Or is this just more Fox bullshiat completely made up out of whole cloth?
Elegy: justtray: Yeah, of course it was fueled by radical Islam. So what?Radical Christianity anyone? Should we discriminate against Christians?I'm down for disciminating against both sects of religion, or all religion, if that's what we want. Lets not get anecdotal here, you might not like the results.[i.imgur.com image 300x202]
mark12A: That's because the tie to radical Islam is tenuous at best, but the butthurt these guys seem to have felt because they didn't get things handed to them is palpable. They are closer to teabaggers than Al Qaeda.HORSESHIAT. The elder brother went to Russia and got indoctrinated by the radicals there to do this attack. The Russian government warned us he was trouble. This has NOTHING to do with the TEa Party. Nothing. Keep humping that chicken, dude.Right-wing Christian lunatics bomb abortion clinics/murder doctors/bomb the Olympics/shoot up 'liberal' churches: Well, they're just lone wolves, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions and LOOK A MUSLIM!Christian radical attacks are trivial in scope and frequency compared to the Muslim attacks worldwide that happen on a DAILY basis. I'm really getting tired of Farkers equating the two. They are NOT the same.
Kibbler: Well to be fair, that was Faux News "opinion" rather than "news." It's where they just come right out and say what they imply 24/7 during the "news."
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