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2013-04-24 01:28:16 PM  
If Gearbox makes it, it could be good. If they outsource development....
 
2013-04-24 01:35:14 PM  
The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.

The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise. I loved both games and was really sad when it wasn't sold in the initial auction. And I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games.
 
2013-04-24 01:45:12 PM  
Yeah, gearbox getting homeworld scares me.

If they keep everything in house, it could be good. Maybe they should cut their teeth just faithfully updating 1&2 with better graphics and some control tweaks. Don't alter the story any, and just remake the cutscenes movies. After that, they can make a new game and may have the knowledge to do it justice.

I would love to see what the modding community could do with updated engines
 
2013-04-24 02:10:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games


That was one of the few games I actually saw a TV ad for, apart from COD and Madden.
 
2013-04-24 02:16:42 PM  

Need a Dispenser Here: scottydoesntknow: I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games

That was one of the few games I actually saw a TV ad for, apart from COD and Madden.


I remember seeing one Darksiders 2 commercial before it came out. I never saw a commercial for the first one and the only reason I found out about it was because of my boss.
 
2013-04-24 02:16:58 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.

The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise. I loved both games and was really sad when it wasn't sold in the initial auction. And I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games.


For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game. Just my honest opinion. I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else. The end of the first game was such a huge middle finger to people that actually enjoy story-driven games, I'll never be fooled in to buying another one of their POS games.

/ymmv
 
2013-04-24 02:17:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.



It was BL1.  By the time they started BL2 they were already outsourcing A:CM to Timegate as the rest of the team was putting DNF together.
 
2013-04-24 02:19:54 PM  
I still hold out hope that Freelancer 2 or Freedom Fighters 2 is secretly in the works somewhere

/Mercenaries 3 supposedly is still in the works with a different developer since Pandemic went belly up
 
2013-04-24 02:21:48 PM  

RedPhoenix122: If Gearbox makes it, it could be good. If they outsource development....


Well, Sega bought Relic and unless A:CM destroyed any relationship that Gearbox had with Sega, there is a way that outsourcing it could work in Homeworld's favor.
 
2013-04-24 02:22:14 PM  

somedude210: /Mercenaries 3 supposedly is still in the works with a different developer since Pandemic went belly up


The best thing about Mercenaries 2 was the commercial. That was one catchy tune

/Oh no you didn't!
 
2013-04-24 02:22:56 PM  
msupf : Yeah, gearbox getting homeworld scares me.

Hmm, a cel shaded homeworld, yuck!
 
2013-04-24 02:25:33 PM  
Homeworld: Colonial Marines.

Book it, done.
 
2013-04-24 02:25:56 PM  

mooseyfate: For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game. Just my honest opinion. I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else. The end of the first game was such a huge middle finger to people that actually enjoy story-driven games, I'll never be fooled in to buying another one of their POS games.

/ymmv


Different strokes for different folks and all that.

I enjoy loot games like Diablo II (not 3 though, that one was boring). Plus some of my friends play it, as does my girlfriend so it's a fun time.
 
2013-04-24 02:27:30 PM  

mooseyfate: scottydoesntknow: The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.

The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise. I loved both games and was really sad when it wasn't sold in the initial auction. And I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games.

For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game. Just my honest opinion. I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else. The end of the first game was such a huge middle finger to people that actually enjoy story-driven games, I'll never be fooled in to buying another one of their POS games.

/ymmv


The first Borderland's story sucked. Just collect quests and do stuff. The second one at least tried, and it was generally entertaining. I didn't mind the loot chasing, as it kept me on my toes. I could find a weapon that was amazing in every aspect except one or two, and that forced me to change how I played. I'm not much for grinding though. I played through the game three times, twice with one character with my roommates, once by myself with a different character.

That said, I'm done with it. I enjoyed it, but I moved on. There is a large community of players who grind the game in order to get the best loot or whatnot. Meh.

Also, Brothers in Arms was awesome.

It's unfortunate that the Aliens game was crap, but you can't really blame them for Duke Nukem. Didn't they state that they basically bought and released it as is?
 
2013-04-24 02:30:27 PM  

mooseyfate: scottydoesntknow: The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.

The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise. I loved both games and was really sad when it wasn't sold in the initial auction. And I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games.

For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game. Just my honest opinion. I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else. The end of the first game was such a huge middle finger to people that actually enjoy story-driven games, I'll never be fooled in to buying another one of their POS games.

/ymmv


I actually have to agree with you there. Granted it may be my distaste for straight up shooters coloring my opinion. I picked up BL1 due to the hype I kept seeing here on Fark. And I will admit that I like what dialogue there is in the game, especially Claptrap, but there's just not enough story there for me to give a shiat. I finished the game since I don't like to leave games unfinished, and the ending just threw salt on the wound. And before someone chimes in with the old "The game really shines in multiplayer" argument, I'll just let you folks know I hate multiplayer. If I wanted to interact with other people while playing games and depend on their skill or lack thereof to help get me through the game I'd still be playing MMO's.
 
2013-04-24 02:35:07 PM  
Need a Dispenser Here:

That said, I'm done with it. I enjoyed it, but I moved on. There is a large community of players who grind the game in order to get the best loot or whatnot. Meh.

I still play it regularly with buddies, but Gearbox is completely farking it up.  Instead of addressing some annoying glitches and gameplay mechanics(farking bullet sponge enemies) they just listen to the crybabies on the forums and either remove weapons or nerf drops.  The latest patch has all but guaranteed that Pearlecent guns will be raid boss drops only, and most of the raid bosses suck.
 
2013-04-24 02:36:07 PM  
Could be worse.

Could be EA.
 
2013-04-24 02:42:11 PM  
Great, and watch them pull an EA
 
2013-04-24 02:43:23 PM  

LordJiro: Could be worse.

Could be EA.


"Add ion cannon frigates to the game for only $6.99! Post your fleet's achievements on Facebook! We've replaced everything you liked about this game with social media!"
 
2013-04-24 02:46:26 PM  

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RIP Homefront

 
2013-04-24 02:50:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise


Depends on who they work with to develop the IP, because they tend to publish mediocre games.

Dingleberry Dickwad: And before someone chimes in with the old "The game really shines in multiplayer" argument, I'll just let you folks know I hate multiplayer.


It does really shine in multiplayer.  In fact that's the only time it ever possibly shines is when playing co-op.  They should put on the box the friends and booze are required to enjoy, because playing solo in Borderlands is garbage.
 
2013-04-24 02:51:05 PM  
Borderlands is a good game to relieve some stress over.  Start it up, kill things, collect loot (maybe something exciting).

Of course, I enjoyed Diablo 2 for the same reason. I'm a loot whore, it's my addiction within an addiction (I don't grind or spend real money on it however, except for the cost of the game).
 
2013-04-24 02:51:07 PM  

mooseyfate: scottydoesntknow: The pairing of Gearbox and Homeworld is an interesting one. The studio is best known for its expertise in action-heavy first-person shooters Borderlands & Borderlands 2, not strategy games.

FTFY Guardian. Besides the Borderlands franchise, they haven't made a good game in a while. Wouldn't be surprised if the rumors that they spent all of the A:CM money Sega gave them on BL2 are true.

The best news from this article is Nordic picking up the Darksiders franchise. I loved both games and was really sad when it wasn't sold in the initial auction. And I blame THQ for their horrible (almost non-existent) advertising for the games.

For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game. Just my honest opinion. I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else. The end of the first game was such a huge middle finger to people that actually enjoy story-driven games, I'll never be fooled in to buying another one of their POS games.

/ymmv


i bought borderlands 1 and all the dlc for like $5 or something.  for that price, it was a good game.  at full price, or even half price, not worth it.  it was a pretty dumb game.  from what i heard, borderlands 2 was the same game with some more guns.  so, basically, i'll wait for it to go on a steam super sale.
 
2013-04-24 02:51:50 PM  
mooseyfate: For my money, Gearbox has never made a good game.

Half-Life: Opposing Force wants you to have a seat over there.
 
2013-04-24 02:52:25 PM  
Ah Homeworld. I still remember capturing every multibeam frigate I could get my hands on in the nebula and owning the rest of the game with them. Good times.
 
2013-04-24 02:54:22 PM  

wraith95: Ah Homeworld. I still remember capturing every multibeam frigate I could get my hands on in the nebula and owning the rest of the game with them. Good times.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net

I'm in your junkyard, stealing your multibeam frigates!
 
2013-04-24 02:59:17 PM  
Been playing the original Borderlands. I'm told that the second one is better, but the first one is 60% tedium.
 
2013-04-24 02:59:47 PM  

Flappyhead: Need a Dispenser Here:

That said, I'm done with it. I enjoyed it, but I moved on. There is a large community of players who grind the game in order to get the best loot or whatnot. Meh.

I still play it regularly with buddies, but Gearbox is completely farking it up.  Instead of addressing some annoying glitches and gameplay mechanics(farking bullet sponge enemies) they just listen to the crybabies on the forums and either remove weapons or nerf drops.  The latest patch has all but guaranteed that Pearlecent guns will be raid boss drops only, and most of the raid bosses suck.


gibbed save editor has breathed new life into the game for me. I can play around with new builds without hours of hunting down the right gear. And when I get bored I can play with stupidly fun gear like a flame of the fire hawk shield grafted onto a love thumper shield with a ten+ minute recharge delay.
 
2013-04-24 03:01:04 PM  
Also bidding: Stardock (Sins of a Solar Empire) and Paradox (Crusader Kings, etc.)

Stardock would've been a perfect fit. Paradox would've given us the last name of every scout pilot's half-sister's handmaiden's mother.
 
2013-04-24 03:04:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: somedude210: /Mercenaries 3 supposedly is still in the works with a different developer since Pandemic went belly up

The best thing about Mercenaries 2 was the commercial. That was one catchy tune

/Oh no you didn't!


Mercs 2 was fun, but not as good as the first one. That was a thing of beauty and I'd love to see a redo of that game with better graphics and on new consoles/PC

/hated the controls since it was meant for a controller
//that song was great though, I have the mp3 somewhere
 
2013-04-24 03:05:23 PM  

mooseyfate: I think it's embarrassing when Borderlands fans try to justify getting super excited over a game that essentially boils down to "I bet there's a bigger, better gun over that next hill!" and little else.


I'm not going to try making excuses for it-- but what you've outlined here is precisely *why* I like Borderlands.  It is a polished, but very simple game.  It does not attempt to hide game mechanics behind story.  It doesn't need a reason there's a bigger gun over the hill, or to pretend that it's somehow simulating something.  It really is just a quest for slightly upgraded loot.  It's easy to pick up, it's easy for your friends to drop in and join you for fifteen minutes, and it's easy to drop out when real life presents something more interesting to do.

Sometimes, you want a deep, challenging game.  Sometimes, you have 15 minutes to kill with a friend.  Borderlands is a game for the second niche, and does it brilliantly.

Of course, that doesn't bode well for Homeworld, which was *not* a game for mindless drop-in co-op.
 
2013-04-24 03:06:08 PM  

LoneWolf343: Been playing the original Borderlands. I'm told that the second one is better, but the first one is 60% tedium.


the first one has a lackluster base story, but good rather good drop rates for quality gear. The dlc expansions (other than underdome) had much better story content.

Bl2 has a bit more story, but the loot drops are ridiculously low, and GB is starting to treat the game like an MMO, constantly tweaking drop rates and gear and skill combinations that they consider overpowered.
 
2013-04-24 03:08:06 PM  
Some of the guys behind homeworld have moved on to "Hardware: Ship Breakers", which fills me with more promise than the idea of Gearbox working on cherished IP from the PC's glory days.

/Its said to be F2P, which isn't always good... but still better than Gearbox.
 
2013-04-24 03:09:01 PM  
Except Stardock has Brad Wardell.  That alone makes me never want to support them again.   They also have been putting out nothing but garbage game-wise lately.

Paradox could have been okay, except development may have ended up in Kerberos' hands and that would be awful.
 
2013-04-24 03:11:00 PM  
Wow. There's a lot of hate for BL2 in here.

I enjoyed the game a lot. Just a fun loot game with a good story. Not sure what you guys were expecting. I sank my 30ish hours into it and haven't touched it since, but that's my MO. I enjoyed it enough to finish instead of getting bored 20 hours in like I do with most games.
 
2013-04-24 03:11:04 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3MnG9S9Whc this is basically whats happening

but instead of a techno-organic infection and screaming its going to be pop culture references and dubstep
 
2013-04-24 03:11:42 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: If I wanted to interact with other people while playing games and depend on their skill or lack thereof to help get me through the game I'd still be playing MMO's.


It fills a middle-ground niche.  Obviously, if you hate multiplayer, it's not for you.  I don't like "big multiplayer," like MMOs... but I do like to pop on and play games with (as opposed to against) a friend or two.  This game is great for that, because it's so dead-simple it doesn't require any coordination of player levels, or complex strategy, or raid scheduling, or anything at all really beyond "oh, hey... bob's playing.  i've got ten minutes to kill, so i'll just help him shoot stuff for a bit."  It's great for that.  It is the FPSRPG equivalent of playing a round of darts at the bar with your buddy during happy hour.
 
2013-04-24 03:13:42 PM  

RedPhoenix122: If Gearbox makes it, it could be good. If they outsource development....


msupf: Yeah, gearbox getting homeworld scares me.

If they keep everything in house, it could be good.


Oh Fark, how I love thee.
 
2013-04-24 03:13:43 PM  
Are you people on drugs?  Let's take a look at the games Gearbox has worked on over the years:

Half Life: Opposing Force
Half Life: Blue Shift
Counter-strike
Counter-strike: Condition Zero
Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
Borderlands
Borderlands 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Halo
Duke Nukem Forever
Aliens: Colonial Marines

That's what, 2 bad games out of 14?  Oh yeah, Gearbox must totally suck to have 2 whole bad games in 14 years.
 
2013-04-24 03:15:26 PM  
Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?
 
2013-04-24 03:17:30 PM  
couldn't get into BL2.  The FoV is like 60 degrees max and the humor is like family guy humor.  They just throw a bunch of crap at you and hope someone likes one of the jokes.
 
2013-04-24 03:18:28 PM  
I would consider it a huge success if the only thing they do with this is release Homeworld 2 without modification on Android and iOS.
 
2013-04-24 03:19:47 PM  

PanicMan: Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?


nope, I never did either. Came out before I had a decent rig to play it on, by then I had moved to Sins
 
2013-04-24 03:19:50 PM  

PanicMan: Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?


Everything you love about a great RTS......IN 3D SPAAAAAAACCCCEEEEEEEE
 
2013-04-24 03:21:11 PM  

Teufelaffe: Are you people on drugs?  Let's take a look at the games Gearbox has worked on over the years:

Half Life: Opposing Force (Expansion pack, albeit a good one)
Half Life: Blue Shift (This had kind of mediocre reviews, as I recall. It's also not a complete game, but an expansion pack)
Counter-strike (No, they didn't, this was originally a mod that Valve eventually bought and took over)
Counter-strike: Condition Zero (This is a map and model pack for Counter-strike, not a full game)
Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
Borderlands
Borderlands 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (This was a Port of an existing game)
Halo (This was a Port of an existing game)
Duke Nukem Forever (Bad)
Aliens: Colonial Marines (Bad)

That's what, 2 bad games out of 14?  Oh yeah, Gearbox must totally suck to have 2 whole bad games in 14 years.

 
2013-04-24 03:21:56 PM  

PanicMan: Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?


It was the first well done 3d RTS I've ever played. The controls and camera movements were pretty easy to learn and you could position the camera pretty effortlessly with a little practice. One of the biggest things was that ship formations and positioning actually mattered a lot, and  again was fairly easy to arrange, so combat was pretty deep.
 
2013-04-24 03:24:21 PM  

PanicMan: Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?


Imagine a Battlestar Galactica real time strategy game and replace the usual crap CGI cutscenes with delicious hand painted art and quality narration.

Now drop this on the PC gaming market in '99 and watch people eat it up like chocolate covered bacon after a tofu convention.



dl.dropboxusercontent.com

Calling it great would be an understatement.
 
2013-04-24 03:25:54 PM  

RexTalionis: Teufelaffe: Are you people on drugs?  Let's take a look at the games Gearbox has worked on over the years:

Duke Nukem Forever (Bad)


To be fair to Gearbox, no one could have saved Duke Nukem Forever from being a steaming pile of garbage.
 
2013-04-24 03:26:11 PM  

Teufelaffe: Are you people on drugs?  Let's take a look at the games Gearbox has worked on over the years:

Half Life: Opposing Force

FPS
Half Life: Blue ShiftCrappy FPS (no, I don't like Half Life, it was a stereotypical shooter that tried to pass itself off as something more and failed.)
Counter-strikeCrappy FPS
Counter-strike: Condition ZeroCrappy FPS
Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30Oh look, more freaking generic shooters
Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood And another one
Brothers in Arms: Hell's HighwayAnd yet another one.
Borderlands
Hey guys, how about another shooter?
Borderlands 2 Bleah
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 Holy shiat, they made a game that isn't an FPS?
Halo Hey guys, has anyone noticed we like making run of the mill FPS games yet?
Duke Nukem Forever Flaming ball of suck, and I used to like the series.
Aliens: Colonial Marines By all reports yet another flaming ball of suck

That's what, 2 bad games out of 14?  Oh yeah, Gearbox must totally suck to have 2 whole bad games in 14 years.
 
2013-04-24 03:27:59 PM  

wraith95: PanicMan: Am I the only person in the world who has never played Homeworld?  Help me out here, what makes it everyone's favorite?

It was the first well done 3d RTS I've ever played. The controls and camera movements were pretty easy to learn and you could position the camera pretty effortlessly with a little practice. One of the biggest things was that ship formations and positioning actually mattered a lot, and  again was fairly easy to arrange, so combat was pretty deep.


They also leant themselves really well to the modding community. There are some very good mods and expansions out there for the games. Homeworld 2 Complex mod has gotten me playing the game again.
 
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