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(Some Guy)   Prof Richard Falk blames America for Boston Marathon bombings while searching his trench coat incessantly for a pen   (theglobaldispatch.com) divider line 175
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2013-04-24 01:58:25 PM  
Is this a kissing book?
 
2013-04-24 01:58:43 PM  
Richard Fark??
/it's not news, it's......
 
2013-04-24 01:58:56 PM  
If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.
 
2013-04-24 01:59:05 PM  

ChipNASA: Richard Fark??
/it's not news, it's......


Dick Fark.
 
2013-04-24 02:00:29 PM  
Been done.
To limited degrees of success.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-24 02:00:33 PM  
aw c'mon...this can't be real

...please...
 
2013-04-24 02:03:27 PM  
Cue the Team America World Police references.
 
2013-04-24 02:04:12 PM  

HiFiGuy: ChipNASA: Richard Fark??
/it's not news, it's......

Dick Fark.


THAT'S going to hurt.......

/Urethra
//exit not an entrance.
 
2013-04-24 02:05:28 PM  
Shouldn't he be reading a book to his grandson who is sick?
 
2013-04-24 02:06:00 PM  
www.libraryforsales.com
 
2013-04-24 02:07:15 PM  
Some guy on the internet calls out some guy you've never heard of.

It's not news.
 
2013-04-24 02:08:01 PM  
Big words from someone who programmed a computer to start a Global Thermonuclear War.
 
2013-04-24 02:08:15 PM  
media.screened.com
how about a nice game of chess?
 
2013-04-24 02:08:43 PM  
Some people attention whores should self-flagellate in private.
 
2013-04-24 02:09:05 PM  
Calling something "retribution" is not exactly the same as saying "they got what they deserved". I can't say I entirely disagree with his point.  The US has had a long history of a belief in our manifest destiny to police the world and enforce democracy at whatever price.  We should focus on solving our internal problems before we start looking for ways to solve the problems of others.
 
2013-04-24 02:09:10 PM  

JNowe: Big words from someone who programmed a computer to start a Global Thermonuclear War.


curse you JNowe!

/shakes tiny fist
 
2013-04-24 02:09:18 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.


not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid
 
2013-04-24 02:10:42 PM  
who is this guy and what makes him a UN official and what is the name of that media source?
 
2013-04-24 02:10:54 PM  

echomike23: [media.screened.com image 555x412]
how about a nice game of chess?


I remember reading that the original choice for Prof. Falken (quite some time before the movie was made) was John Lennon. And I could totally see that.
 
2013-04-24 02:11:40 PM  

SDRR: Shouldn't he be reading a book to his grandson who is sick?


Suspect 2 doesn't die. I'm telling you because you look worried.
 
2013-04-24 02:12:04 PM  
FTFA:  "The American global domination project is bound to generate all kinds of resistance in the post-colonial world. In some respects, the United States has been fortunate not to experience worse blowbacks, and these may yet happen, especially if there is no disposition to rethink US relations to others in the world, starting with the Middle East."

www.statemaster.com
HA_HA_HA
idiot

1942 called and said you can't ignore the world and be left alone in peace.  We are involved.  We have to be.  We will be hurt sometimes, sure.  But nobody will ever think we are a soft target.
 
2013-04-24 02:12:06 PM  
Falk you, Dick.
 
2013-04-24 02:13:15 PM  
Well, this just made the onion article seem well reasoned, sensitive and insightful.
 
2013-04-24 02:13:33 PM  
Alright, so the basic premise of crap like this is because we piss off an unstable asswit fringe element person somewhere, we therefore are to blame when he goes off and wreaks vengeance to the voices in his head.

Yep, you bet man.

I'd love to see a country run by these 5th column types though. Ducks bunnies and free beer as far as the eye can see, with nary a pissed off anarchist, terrorist, or punk. Nobody ever gets angry at the state, nobody ever commits a crime, and nobody ever decides their own sh*tty little worldview needs a bigger platform so how about randomly killing innocent bystanders including children.

Boston has nothing to apologize for.
 
2013-04-24 02:13:35 PM  
"Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..
 
2013-04-24 02:13:40 PM  
What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.
 
2013-04-24 02:13:55 PM  

echomike23: JNowe: Big words from someone who programmed a computer to start a Global Thermonuclear War.

curse you JNowe!

/shakes tiny fist


Sorry!
 
2013-04-24 02:14:15 PM  

pute kisses like a man: who is this guy and what makes him a UN official and what is the name of that media source?


International Law professor at Princeton. The UN made him a UN official
 
2013-04-24 02:14:49 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Surprised?
 
2013-04-24 02:14:56 PM  
Falk says the US needs to better accommodate the demands of "the Islamic world," especially over the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I guess we need to help the Muslim world destroy the Israeli people, something they have been unable to do for the past 1500 years.
 
2013-04-24 02:15:30 PM  

DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.


No WWIII. That is its purpose. All else is feel good window dressing
 
2013-04-24 02:15:35 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.


The fact that we, as a nation, are incapable of realizing our foreign policy dick-waving is the reason so many people around the world hate us is why things like Boston will continue to happen. It's much easier for us to believe they hate us because we're so damn awesome since the alternative would require some empathy and introspection, and perhaps the possibility of shattering our puffed up exceptionalist view of ourselves, and we can't have that.

I guess that's why I'm so numb to this and other tragedies. Yeah, they suck but they'll continue to happen until we take a real hard look at why they happen. Until then, don't ask me to give a damn and I won't say I told you so the next time it happens, and it will.

\I'm depressed now
\\dollar fish tacos should help
 
2013-04-24 02:15:36 PM  
www.fritriac.de
 
2013-04-24 02:16:11 PM  
How is stupid to suggest that if we bomb people, they will eventually want to bomb us back?
 
2013-04-24 02:16:26 PM  

Generation_D: Alright, so the basic premise of crap like this is because we piss off an unstable asswit fringe element person somewhere, we therefore are to blame when he goes off and wreaks vengeance to the voices in his head.

.

It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.    "Why'd you make me hit you, baby?"
 
2013-04-24 02:16:31 PM  

tinyarena: FTFA:  "The American global domination project is bound to generate all kinds of resistance in the post-colonial world. In some respects, the United States has been fortunate not to experience worse blowbacks, and these may yet happen, especially if there is no disposition to rethink US relations to others in the world, starting with the Middle East."

[www.statemaster.com image 197x259]
HA_HA_HA
idiot

1942 called and said you can't ignore the world and be left alone in peace.  We are involved.  We have to be.  We will be hurt sometimes, sure.  But nobody will ever think we are a soft target.


I agree, but only if our supposedly mandated "involvement" involves you and not me.  I'm a lover not a fighter.
 
2013-04-24 02:16:31 PM  

skullkrusher: International Law professor


Huh. What is international law, exactly?
 
2013-04-24 02:17:11 PM  

willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?


huh?
 
2013-04-24 02:17:58 PM  

willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?


A basket weaving degree with a fancy title, "international Law" means "I piss and moan anytime the united states does something and call everyone involved war criminals"
 
2013-04-24 02:18:05 PM  

willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?


It regulates the transportation of asian slaves and russian brides
 
2013-04-24 02:18:07 PM  
I thought he was a great  - Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champion, seven times in the Pro Bowl.  But this is just too far.
 
2013-04-24 02:18:09 PM  
Well, if the FBI would stop blowing shiat up...
 
2013-04-24 02:18:18 PM  
 
2013-04-24 02:18:25 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-24 02:18:34 PM  

JNowe


.It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.


Also called the Tempura Principle.
 
2013-04-24 02:18:53 PM  

atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..



Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...
 
2013-04-24 02:19:40 PM  

atomicmask: willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?

A basket weaving degree with a fancy title, "international Law" means "I piss and moan anytime the united states does something and call everyone involved war criminals"


not even close.
 
2013-04-24 02:19:41 PM  
Look, if you throw tea in the harbor you are a terrorist. It's just the chickens come home to roost Boston.
 
2013-04-24 02:20:03 PM  

willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?


Oh, it's a big pretty white law with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big Tylenol.
 
2013-04-24 02:20:23 PM  

smitty04: Falk says the US needs to better accommodate the demands of "the Islamic world," especially over the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I guess we need to help the Muslim world destroy the Israeli people, something they have been unable to do for the past 1500 years.



Has it been that long?

Hell, seems like it was only 65 years or so...
 
2013-04-24 02:20:36 PM  
You're not wrong Richard; you're just an asshole.
 
2013-04-24 02:20:36 PM  

Source4leko: atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...


IRA

relevant in the past 20 years

Done anything remotely as bad as Islamic Jihad outside of Ireland...

"BUT WHITE PEOPLE!"
 
2013-04-24 02:21:16 PM  
Dick Falk? Seriously?
 
2013-04-24 02:21:16 PM  

skullkrusher: atomicmask: willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?

A basket weaving degree with a fancy title, "international Law" means "I piss and moan anytime the united states does something and call everyone involved war criminals"

not even close.


International Law degree grad found.
 
2013-04-24 02:21:25 PM  

I_C_Weener: SDRR: Shouldn't he be reading a book to his grandson who is sick?

Suspect 2 doesn't die at this time. I'm telling you because you look worried.

 
2013-04-24 02:21:52 PM  

xalres: It's much easier for us to believe they hate us because we're so damn awesome since the alternative would require some empathy and introspection


When being honest with yourself causes you to lose the moral high ground people will tend to just lie to themselves.
 
2013-04-24 02:22:22 PM  

willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?


Anything liberals want it to be.

/as long as the Bush Administration is guilty of war crimes under it
//and the Obama Administration gets a permanent "get out of jail free" card
 
2013-04-24 02:23:13 PM  

atomicmask: skullkrusher: atomicmask: willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor

Huh. What is international law, exactly?

A basket weaving degree with a fancy title, "international Law" means "I piss and moan anytime the united states does something and call everyone involved war criminals"

not even close.

International Law degree grad found.


heh, no. My BIL makes a farking fortune as one though
 
2013-04-24 02:23:25 PM  

atomicmask: Source4leko: atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...

IRA

relevant in the past 20 years

Done anything remotely as bad as Islamic Jihad outside of Ireland...

"BUT WHITE PEOPLE!"


So Oklahoma City wasn't terrorism either.  And Eric Rudolph wasn't a terrorist either.  Interesting.  Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?  I am curious as to what the world looks like to you.
 
2013-04-24 02:23:40 PM  
In 1939, FDR called for the combatant nations in WWII to agree to never bomb civilians.

By the end of the war, the US had killed 500,000+ German civilians through bombing. In one raid on Tokyo, we burned to death 100,000 civilians. We used two nuclear bombs on Japan--the only use of nuclear weapons in war to date--and killed more than 250,000 civilians with them.

It's understandable that SOME people would have a problem with a country that went from saving millions from starvation in the Soviet Union to annihilating civilian populations of enemy countries. The Nazis championed that tactic from the start; we began differently.

However, as someone once said, the greatest moral failure the United States could have made in World War II was to lose the war. That we didn't do.
 
2013-04-24 02:23:43 PM  

skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid


You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?
 
2013-04-24 02:24:39 PM  
The bombers loved 0bama, so how is this an American government thing?
 
2013-04-24 02:24:48 PM  

atomicmask: Source4leko: atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...

IRA

relevant in the past 20 years

Done anything remotely as bad as Islamic Jihad outside of Ireland...

"BUT WHITE PEOPLE!"


How about Maoists in India? they're a far, far bigger problem than the jihadis. or FARC. they're pretty sad now but they've been murdering by the dozens for decades in Columbia.

the Kurds are compete assholes to the turks and it has nothing to do with Islam.

hell, in Thailand the Buddhists are terrorizing the muslims, not vice versa.

I'd say you've got a pretty bad case of the Isamophobia going on yourself, buddy.
 
2013-04-24 02:25:20 PM  
Go Falk yourself.

Sincerely,

America
 
2013-04-24 02:25:51 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: JNowe

.It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.


Also called the Tempura Principle.


keyboard pls
 
2013-04-24 02:26:22 PM  
I consider myself to be a reasonably well informed person, but this is the first time I have heard of this guy.  I Googled him and found he is in his 80s now.  Like most 80 somethings, he probably wears a diaper, can't remember what day it is, and needs help feeding himself.  Why do we care what someone 40 years past his prime thinks?
 
2013-04-24 02:26:55 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?


no, I mean in reference to the statement you made. The declaration that the bombings would not have had happened but for X. Followed by "Truth."
Remember that?
 
2013-04-24 02:27:01 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: JNowe

.It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.


Also called the Tempura Principle.


CSB - My brother was a Maine State Trooper and was killed in an auto accident while on duty. I flew up to hang out with family and attend services...I was hanging out drinking with this "Statie" buddies and this guy told me a story about said basically...."You know that domestic violence is a scourge in this country....(all serious).....it's horrible.....like 37% of women in this country are battered......(long pause)...I mean that's just awful....inexcusable....(all the guys take a long pull on their drinks knowing what's coming...I'm oblivious...) "HELL, I've been eating them RAW my WHOLE LIFE!! (uproarious laughter ensues...me too after a slight delay realizing I'd just been "gotten")

/end CSB time.
 
2013-04-24 02:28:37 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?


Since roughly 2/3 of what you just posted was completely wrong, and the rest shows a total lack of understanding about history, I'm going to go with you.
 
2013-04-24 02:28:56 PM  
As a way of disagreeing whith this idiot, I believe we need to show more (less) of the US Flag.

4.bp.blogspot.com

God Bless America!
 
2013-04-24 02:29:24 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?



What we do to other countries and their peoples is nobody's business but ours.

If they don't like it, fark-em. We'll attack them - again.


/It's the American Way
 
2013-04-24 02:29:42 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Some guy on the internet calls out some guy you've never heard of.

It's not news.


Baaaaaaaahahaha!
 
2013-04-24 02:30:14 PM  
jfivealive:  willfullyobscure: skullkrusher: International Law professor
Huh. What is international law, exactly?
It regulates the transportation of asian slaves and russian brides


And blames the Jews for everything wrong in the world, at least according to Falk.
 
2013-04-24 02:30:46 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: JNowe

.It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.


Also called the Tempura Principle.


My uncle ran the Tempura Shelter for lightly battered women.....
 
2013-04-24 02:31:30 PM  
Boston deserved it just like this guy deserves a serious @ss-kicking for the crap he says.
 
2013-04-24 02:31:56 PM  

Brick-House: As a way of disagreeing whith this idiot, I believe we need to show more (less) of the US Flag.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 842x1398]

God Bless America!


With all the patriotic zeal and respect for veterans who have fought and died for this country I can muster, at this moment I say we need to show less...much less of the American flag...maybe just one star and no stripes.
 
2013-04-24 02:32:10 PM  
hehe Dick Falk
 
2013-04-24 02:32:17 PM  

tinyarena: FTFA:  "The American global domination project is bound to generate all kinds of resistance in the post-colonial world. In some respects, the United States has been fortunate not to experience worse blowbacks, and these may yet happen, especially if there is no disposition to rethink US relations to others in the world, starting with the Middle East."

[www.statemaster.com image 197x259]
HA_HA_HA
idiot

1942 called and said you can't ignore the world and be left alone in peace.  We are involved.  We have to be.  We will be hurt sometimes, sure.  But nobody will ever think we are a soft target.


Uh... Japan bombed us because we embargoed the shiat out of them and then also stationed fleets in an attempt to dissuade them from attacking us. Also, when Japan entered into the alliance with Germany and Italy, we started giving money and material to the Brits.
 
2013-04-24 02:32:50 PM  
By his 'logic' anything the US does to protect its interests is a reason to be attacked.

What a farkwad.
 
2013-04-24 02:33:43 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: The bombers loved 0bama, so how is this an American government thing?


There is no indication the professor is aware of that.
 
2013-04-24 02:33:51 PM  
Falk is a Jewish name. I don't know what is going on in his head but blaming innocent victims for their own bombing is just plain nuts.
 
2013-04-24 02:34:23 PM  
I'd sure like to see full quotes and not partial quotes used to fill in the blanks of the "journalist"'s own personal spin. This just smacks of out-of-context faux outrage.

/but the guy probably is a dick
 
2013-04-24 02:34:46 PM  

LonMead: Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?

Since roughly 2/3 of what you just posted was completely wrong, and the rest shows a total lack of understanding about history, I'm going to go with you.


And what, exactly, is wrong? I'll wait.
 
2013-04-24 02:35:04 PM  

cwheelie: Englebert Slaptyback: JNowe

.It's the Battered Wife theory of politics.


Also called the Tempura Principle.

My uncle ran the Tempura Shelter for lightly battered women.....


t2.ftcdn.net
Bat her, lightly
 
2013-04-24 02:35:28 PM  

skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?

no, I mean in reference to the statement you made. The declaration that the bombings would not have had happened but for X. Followed by "Truth."
Remember that?


Translation: You got nothing.
 
2013-04-24 02:35:31 PM  
Pencil.  Not a pen.
 
2013-04-24 02:36:51 PM  
Yes, every American who voted Bush in for a second term deserves a savage beating but I fail to see how killing random people is in any way justified by Bush's misdeeds. Also, your not helping your cause by making us angry. If you piss off America you... will... lose. Better to try to open up people's eyes to the evil they allowed to be done in their name. All the little stone age crap-istans put together are no military threat to us at all.
 
2013-04-24 02:37:23 PM  

skullkrusher: The UN made him a UN official


The article describes him as "UN Human Rights Council expert".

So is he an actual UN employee?

The typical Fark user is a UN Human Rights Council expert.

Also a legal expert, atomic energy expert, foreign policy expert, etc.
 
2013-04-24 02:39:19 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?

no, I mean in reference to the statement you made. The declaration that the bombings would not have had happened but for X. Followed by "Truth."
Remember that?

Translation: You got nothing.


ok, so show some evidence. I'll wait.
 
2013-04-24 02:42:01 PM  

DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.


The pragmatic usefulness of the UN is a public and bureaucratic pressure valve. When tensions run high they can dampen the situation through public airing of the issue making it more newsworthy and this making the players think twice abut their actions. It's a form of mediation that works where a vacuum would actually be worse.
 
2013-04-24 02:42:29 PM  

jaytkay: skullkrusher: The UN made him a UN official

The article describes him as "UN Human Rights Council expert".

So is he an actual UN employee?

The typical Fark user is a UN Human Rights Council expert.

Also a legal expert, atomic energy expert, foreign policy expert, etc.


hehe, no he actually holds a position as a "UN Special Rapporteur" on human rights in Palestine
 
2013-04-24 02:43:46 PM  

DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.


Here's hoping this bag of cocks doesn't get to set foot in NYC again after this monstrously stupid statement.

Yeah, that 8 year old kid sure deserved what he got.
 
2013-04-24 02:48:28 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: echomike23: [media.screened.com image 555x412]
how about a nice game of chess?

I remember reading that the original choice for Prof. Falken (quite some time before the movie was made) was John Lennon. And I could totally see that.


that would have been interesting.
 
2013-04-24 02:48:45 PM  
wasnt there someone in one of the 14bazillion other threads on this subject that was complaining about not seeing enough 'blame dub'ya' goin on?

i think my reply was 'you're not reading enough' and now here we are.
 
2013-04-24 02:50:17 PM  

jaytkay: skullkrusher: The UN made him a UN official

The article describes him as "UN Human Rights Council expert".

So is he an actual UN employee?

The typical Fark user is a UN Human Rights Council expert.

Also a legal expert, atomic energy expert, foreign policy expert, etc.


It's OK. I stayed at a Holiday Inn!
 
2013-04-24 02:51:21 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings.


We did?

Oh wait...
 
2013-04-24 02:52:01 PM  

xalres: The fact that we, as a nation, are incapable of realizing our foreign policy dick-waving is the reason so many people around the world hate us is why things like Boston will continue to happen. It's much easier for us to believe they hate us because we're so damn awesome since the alternative would require some empathy and introspection, and perhaps the possibility of shattering our puffed up exceptionalist view of ourselves, and we can't have that.


Its the old self-fulfilling prophecy - treat a group of people badly because they are bad (usually on "moral" or superiority grounds) and they will start behaving badly which justifies their initial treatment. See the various wars against the Native Americans who fought back and various official policies that kept jobs away from African Americans and encouraged crime.
 
2013-04-24 02:54:00 PM  

DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.


I know! John Bolton was an assclown and brought shame to the organization!

And screw all those kids who learned to read or were treated for diseases under UN programs, not to mention the absolute waste spent on rebuilding impoverished countries after natural disasters. we all know the US has done far more for Haiti than the UN ever did.

And Bush I, with the First Iraq War - what a joke that he used the UN to build a coalition of over 100 nations to give legitimacy to his invasion. His son sure learned what a waste the UN was when he went in with a coalition of the willing - it turned out way better!

/sarcasm off
//go read a book, stop reading infowars and Glenn Blech
 
2013-04-24 02:55:06 PM  

atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


I was with you up until you forgot about the IRA, Basque seperatists, Leftist whackadoos of various flavors, Mexican drug cartels, and maybe even some budhist monks.
 
2013-04-24 02:55:53 PM  
What a Dick. How dare he bash Bush.
 
2013-04-24 02:55:59 PM  

atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


the Irish are Islamic?
 
2013-04-24 02:57:54 PM  
The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.
 
2013-04-24 02:59:59 PM  
Our action do not have consequences and we shall never have our comeuppance!

/never i say!
 
2013-04-24 03:00:16 PM  
Falk's commentary began by stating how 'Islamaphobic' America has become


Baby, you aint seen nothin yet.  A few continuous years of this and Western Muslims will need a new title to call themselves so they dont get thrown in the same train car as the non western muslims during a roundup.  Some farking genius thought the best way to fight against the west was to make westerners incredibly scared and angry.  Because that has worked out so well in the past.

They would have more luck JUST bombing abortion clinics and pissing off only half of America.
 
2013-04-24 03:00:36 PM  

partisan222: the Irish are Islamic?


Not typically, why? atomicmask said islamics were the primary culprit in every terrorist attack/plot in the world.

Which is, of course, not true. I provided a number of examples of groups who were the primary culprit in a number of terrorist attack/plots all over the world who are NOT islamist.

Make sense?
 
2013-04-24 03:00:45 PM  

partisan222: DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.

I know! John Bolton was an assclown and brought shame to the organization!

And screw all those kids who learned to read or were treated for diseases under UN programs, not to mention the absolute waste spent on rebuilding impoverished countries after natural disasters. we all know the US has done far more for Haiti than the UN ever did.

And Bush I, with the First Iraq War - what a joke that he used the UN to build a coalition of over 100 nations to give legitimacy to his invasion. His son sure learned what a waste the UN was when he went in with a coalition of the willing - it turned out way better!

/sarcasm off
//go read a book, stop reading infowars and Glenn Blech


I'm only insulted that you think I'd pay attention to infowars or Glenn Blech or Gleen Beck.  Just because I'm conservative doesn't make me willfully blind and stupid. Like I said I'm not terribly informed about the U.N.  I only know them mostly from pop culture references and these kinds of news stories. I'm sure the U.N. does plenty of good at the ground level, but there seems to be a disconnect with reality as far as many of the speeches given at the general assembly.  Though it is possible I just live in a bubble or something.  As if someone set up this place where I could just say whatever I wanted, often purposefully against the presiding authority, and get away with it.  Huh...interesting.
 
2013-04-24 03:01:07 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: I was with you up until you forgot about the IRA, Basque seperatists, Leftist whackadoos of various flavors, Mexican drug cartels, and maybe even some budhist monks.


www.mytakeradio.com

And let us not forget Nova Scotian separatists.
 
2013-04-24 03:01:13 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: LonMead: Princess Ryans Knickers: skullkrusher: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

not a day goes by where you don't say something incomprehensibly stupid

You mean like how we removed a democratically elected President in Cuba and installed Castro. Or how we stuck our noses into Vietnam to "stop communism". Or how we removed a democratically elected leader in Iran and installed a theocratic one. Or how we then trained and supplied Iraq to fight Iran. Or how we trained and supplied bin Laden and the Taliban to fight Russia. Or how we trained and supplied Noriega in Nicaragua. Then we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua. Then we went after bin Laden, Saddam. Or how about our sabre rattling at Iran recently? Or sticking our nose in Korea, over and over. Or us sticking our nose into the Chechnyan-Russian Federation conflict and sending terrorists from Saudi Arabia to interfere.

Tell me, oh great and wise one... who really is the stupid one?

Since roughly 2/3 of what you just posted was completely wrong, and the rest shows a total lack of understanding about history, I'm going to go with you.

And what, exactly, is wrong? I'll wait.


You obviously failed history class the first time... why put yourself through it again?

But, since you asked, some examples:

The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba (in fact, the U.S. tried to get rid of Castro, and has had an embargo on the country since the 60's)

The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah (in fact, one of the reasons Khomeni's followers took and held the U.S. Embassy during this period had to do with U.S. support of the Shah).

Noriega was in Panama.

Yes we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua (that would be the pro-democratic, anti-Communist rebels).

We went after bin Laden because bin Laden came at us.

Sticking OUR nose in Korea? Maybe you mean the United Nations.

Chechnya? You mean where we condemned the the Chechens use terrorism and sent humanitarian aid, and tried to get the Russians to negotiate? And where do you find that we sent Saudi terrorists to "interfere" (interfere with what, might I ask?)?

Yeah, going to have to say you're not really the bright one here.
 
2013-04-24 03:01:32 PM  

Brick-House: As a way of disagreeing whith this idiot, I believe we need to show more (less) of the US Flag.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 842x1398]

God Bless America!


As a veteran, this seriously disturbs me and I will be confiscating any/all such clothing on the spot.

/female attire only need apply
 
2013-04-24 03:01:35 PM  

atomicmask: Source4leko: atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...

IRA

relevant in the past 20 years

Done anything remotely as bad as Islamic Jihad outside of Ireland...

"BUT WHITE PEOPLE!"


hey, just because your argument doesn't hold water, just move the goal posts!

You were master debate champion back in the day, huh?
 
2013-04-24 03:01:46 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.


Big money entities, like teacher unions?

I am almost sick so many farkers agree with the guy. Just.... wow. True liberal colors.
 
2013-04-24 03:02:12 PM  

fireclown: And let us not forget Nova Scotian separatists.


Actually, didn't the Quebequoi (sp?) have a militant wing that bombed shiat?
 
2013-04-24 03:03:23 PM  

tuna fingers: Been done.
To limited degrees of success.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 264x191]


Ward Churchill was incredibly successful.  The American public now accepts as fact that the US Government gave smallpox blankets to Indians.
 
2013-04-24 03:03:31 PM  
Canadian Sleeper Cells.
That is all I am saying.
 
2013-04-24 03:05:21 PM  

FLMountainMan: tuna fingers: Been done.
To limited degrees of success.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 264x191]

Ward Churchill was incredibly successful.  The American public now accepts as fact that the US Government gave smallpox blankets to Indians.


And virtually all of us wish that ebola blankets had been given to Ward Churchill.
 
2013-04-24 03:05:23 PM  

FLMountainMan: tuna fingers: Been done.
To limited degrees of success.

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 264x191]

Ward Churchill was incredibly successful.  The American public now accepts as fact that the US Government gave smallpox blankets to Indians.


America has a long ignoble history of believing the most incredible Big Lies.
Really excels at it.
 
2013-04-24 03:06:05 PM  

partisan222: atomicmask: Source4leko: atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..

Lol.  the IRA would like a word with you...
IRA
relevant in the past 20 years
Done anything remotely as bad as Islamic Jihad outside of Ireland...



They blew the front off #2 Downing street. The Brittish equivelant of Bombing the White House. Don;t get me wrong, the IRA actually had a valid grievance, and the Brittish were absolutely terrible to the Irish for centuries, but let's not pretend the IRA weren't terrorists. They just had a strong tendancy to keep their violence local and focused on the people they were actually aggrieved with.
 
2013-04-24 03:06:37 PM  
xalres: I guess that's why I'm so numb to this and other tragedies. Yeah, they suck but they'll continue to happen until we take a real hard look at why they happen. Until then, don't ask me to give a damn and I won't say I told you so the next time it happens, and it will.

The funny thing is your rant is an implied attack against American ethnocentrism, yet you completely ignore that most of these terrorist attacks occur against other Muslims in other countries.
 
2013-04-24 03:06:49 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Actually, didn't the Quebequoi (sp?) have a militant wing that bombed shiat?


Joking aside, yes they did.  Le Front De Liberation de Quebec (FLQ).  They were big in the 60s and 70s.  I think that they went less violent in the mid 80s.  What the hell, I'll credit Regan just for grins and giggles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_lib%C3%A9ration_du_Qu%C3%A9bec
 
2013-04-24 03:08:08 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: They blew the front off #2 Downing street. The Brittish equivelant of Bombing the White House. Don;t get me wrong, the IRA actually had a valid grievance, and the Brittish were absolutely terrible to the Irish for centuries, but let's not pretend the IRA weren't terrorists. They just had a strong tendancy to keep their violence local and focused on the people they were actually aggrieved with.


AND they did that awesome flamethrower ambush.  Not the most successful, but 10/10 for style.
 
2013-04-24 03:08:45 PM  

FLMountainMan: The funny thing is your rant is an implied attack against American ethnocentrism, yet you completely ignore that most of these terrorist attacks occur against other Muslims


That may be  true, but I think we can all acknowledge that there have been enough attacks where they specifically targeted Americans that we have a valid reason to be critical of radical Islam.
 
2013-04-24 03:09:05 PM  

LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba


LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah


We did in the sense that we supported terrible people who would enrage any populace to the point of revolution.
 
2013-04-24 03:11:21 PM  
Falk's commentary began by stating how 'Islamaphobic' America has become

My, my... Isn't that a popular word these days?
 
2013-04-24 03:11:46 PM  

I_C_Weener: DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.

No WWIII. That is its purpose. All else is feel good window dressing


I thought that was MAD.
 
2013-04-24 03:12:13 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: partisan222: the Irish are Islamic?

Not typically, why? atomicmask said islamics were the primary culprit in every terrorist attack/plot in the world.

Which is, of course, not true. I provided a number of examples of groups who were the primary culprit in a number of terrorist attack/plots all over the world who are NOT islamist.

Make sense?


Tons. I was making the same point as you, just didn't think I'd need as many examples since atomicmask is a moron and won't listen to any counter-argument anyway.
 
2013-04-24 03:13:32 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: FLMountainMan: The funny thing is your rant is an implied attack against American ethnocentrism, yet you completely ignore that most of these terrorist attacks occur against other Muslims

That may be  true, but I think we can all acknowledge that there have been enough attacks where they specifically targeted Americans that we have a valid reason to be critical of radical Islam.


Yes.  At the same time, saying that America's actions overseas make us "deserve" attacks from Radical Islam makes it seem like Islamic terrorists are very selective about who they target.

The strongest predictor for being a victim of an Islamic terrorist attack is living in a predominately Muslim country.
 
2013-04-24 03:15:42 PM  

jaytkay: LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba

LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah

We did in the sense that we supported terrible people who would enrage any populace to the point of revolution.


Batista was about as crooked as most other Latin American leaders at the time (mainly bribery and graft), but Cuba was prosperous under his regime. The followers of Castro were a distinct minority.

And the only thing that made Pahlavi "terrible" was dragging Iran kicking and screaming into the modern era.
 
2013-04-24 03:16:18 PM  

jaytkay: LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba

LonMead: The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah

We did in the sense that we supported terrible people who would enrage any populace to the point of revolution.


Standard business practice of the USA/CIA Foreign Policy is to place the biggest drug lord in power.
Why has this failed for 50 years?
 
2013-04-24 03:16:45 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.


You got favorited in green as smart for that.
 
2013-04-24 03:19:59 PM  

FLMountainMan: At the same time, saying that America's actions overseas make us "deserve" attacks from Radical Islam makes it seem like Islamic terrorists are very selective about who they target.


But they DO target Americans. They ARE selective toward Americans and westerners, and they cite our foreign policy and actions as the "rationale". The fact that they ALSO bomb and attack other sects does not  take way from that. For instance, they do not specifically target people from Brazil.
 
2013-04-24 03:20:27 PM  
What's the good professor's FARK handle?
emotibot.net
/could be anybody
 
2013-04-24 03:22:15 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: FLMountainMan: At the same time, saying that America's actions overseas make us "deserve" attacks from Radical Islam makes it seem like Islamic terrorists are very selective about who they target.

But they DO target Americans. They ARE selective toward Americans and westerners, and they cite our foreign policy and actions as the "rationale". The fact that they ALSO bomb and attack other sects does not  take way from that. For instance, they do not specifically target people from Brazil.


To clarify, we do not "Deserve" it, but our foreign policy *IS* a factor in why Americans are selected for targeting. They are WRONG about it, but then they are crazy, and with a few exceptions (The Shah and Iraq, for instance) we really couldn't be doing things much differently.
 
2013-04-24 03:23:14 PM  

snocone: Canadian Sleeper Cells.
That is all I am saying.


I sleep well knowing agents Hobbes and Fawkes are on their trail.
 
2013-04-24 03:24:46 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.


So the solution to get back at America is to bomb people watching runners?  Isn't that blaming the victim?  I mean, they didn't attack soldiers or raid a Marine base...
 
2013-04-24 03:32:43 PM  

I_C_Weener: DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.

No WWIII. That is its purpose. All else is feel good window dressing


If only we had a League of Nations or something before WWII.
 
2013-04-24 03:38:03 PM  
LonMead:
You obviously failed history class the first time... why put yourself through it again?
But, since you asked, some examples:
The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba (in fact, the U.S. tried to get rid of Castro, and has had an embargo on the country since the 60's)
Actually we did.

John F. Kennedy stated:

"I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. "


The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah (in fact, one of the reasons Khomeni's followers took and held the U.S. Embassy during this period had to do with U.S. support of the Shah).

So you deny that the United States and the CIA had nothing to do with Khomeini?

 Yes we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua (that would be the pro-democratic, anti-Communist rebels).


Glad you agree.

We went after bin Laden because bin Laden came at us.

And so you don't deny that we first trained and supplied bin Laden, nor do you deny that other statement of mine that we had to clean up the mess that was made of our country due to him? Sticking our noses where they don't belong.


Sticking OUR nose in Korea? Maybe you mean the United Nations.
United States Army Military Government of Korea ring any bells? We were involved before the UN was. Since the United States fairly much controls and leads the UN, you do the math.
 

Chechnya? You mean where we condemned the the Chechens use terrorism and sent humanitarian aid, and tried to get the Russians to negotiate? And where do you find that we sent Saudi terrorists to "interfere" (interfere with what, might I ask?)?

Do a Google book search. You can see the old newspaper articles about it from 1999. We were asked point blank by Russia to stop interfering.
 
2013-04-24 03:40:06 PM  
OH, uh just one more thing....
 
2013-04-24 03:42:49 PM  

xalres: Princess Ryans Knickers: If we hadn't stuck our noses into the foreign affairs of Chechnya we wouldn't have had the bombings. Truth. George Washington warned us about getting entangled in the affairs of other nations for a reason.

The fact that we, as a nation, are incapable of realizing our foreign policy dick-waving is the reason so many people around the world hate us is why things like Boston will continue to happen. It's much easier for us to believe they hate us because we're so damn awesome since the alternative would require some empathy and introspection, and perhaps the possibility of shattering our puffed up exceptionalist view of ourselves, and we can't have that.

I guess that's why I'm so numb to this and other tragedies. Yeah, they suck but they'll continue to happen until we take a real hard look at why they happen. Until then, don't ask me to give a damn and I won't say I told you so the next time it happens, and it will.

\I'm depressed now
\\dollar fish tacos should help


I don't agree with all the aspects of our foreign policy either. Terrorists are still goddamn cowards. If they were really so righteous, they would march on Washington and die trying to take on the Army, not go after civilians.
 
2013-04-24 03:43:25 PM  

atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


Thank you.
 
2013-04-24 03:47:56 PM  
Hey, at least he didn't call the victims little eichmans. I guess our chickens have come home to roost.
 
2013-04-24 03:48:36 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: FLMountainMan: At the same time, saying that America's actions overseas make us "deserve" attacks from Radical Islam makes it seem like Islamic terrorists are very selective about who they target.

But they DO target Americans. They ARE selective toward Americans and westerners, and they cite our foreign policy and actions as the "rationale". The fact that they ALSO bomb and attack other sects does not  take way from that. For instance, they do not specifically target people from Brazil.


You are giving them way too much credit.  The rationale they require is the absolute bare minimum - see Thailand, Bali, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Argentina, or the Moscow theater.  And as far as  Brazil, most feel it's only a matter of time.
 
2013-04-24 03:48:46 PM  

BgJonson79: I thought that was MAD.


I agree. Nukes prevented WWIII, the U.N. didn't stop wars or genocides from happening. It's like communism, great idea on paper but doesn't work well in real life.
 
2013-04-24 03:49:39 PM  

Thunderpipes: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.

Big money entities, like teacher unions?

I am almost sick so many farkers agree with the guy. Just.... wow. True liberal colors.


Don't be a putz.  If you really think teacher unions are the big money players for government power than I have no regard for your cognitive abilities.  And if you also think that American foreign policy has not resulted in backlash and a "chickens come home to roost" response then I hope someone takes away your driver's license and your access to any dangerous machinery.

True knee-jerk Republican reaction with a utterly tragic lack of critical thinking skills.  It truly makes me sad that there are people who think like you. You are a glaring symptom of what is wrong with this country and this whole farking planet.  Congratulations.
 
2013-04-24 03:52:08 PM  

minoridiot: Calling something "retribution" is not exactly the same as saying "they got what they deserved". I can't say I entirely disagree with his point.  The US has had a long history of a belief in our manifest destiny to police the world and enforce democracy at whatever price.  We should focus on solving our internal problems before we start looking for ways to solve the problems of others.


So many THIS's.
 
2013-04-24 03:53:06 PM  

atomicmask: "Islamaphobia" oh boy, he uses a made up term to define rational dislike of a group of people prone for violence and the primary culprit of every terrorist attack/plot in the world..


That's one heaping, steaming pile of bullshiat right there. But if it helps you sleep at night, power to you.
 
2013-04-24 03:57:05 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.


"We should stone to death the woman who got raped because she dressed like a harlot and then committed adultery."

What's different?
 
2013-04-24 03:58:18 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Thunderpipes: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.

Big money entities, like teacher unions?

I am almost sick so many farkers agree with the guy. Just.... wow. True liberal colors.

Don't be a putz.  If you really think teacher unions are the big money players for government power than I have no regard for your cognitive abilities.  And if you also think that American foreign policy has not resulted in backlash and a "chickens come home to roost" response then I hope someone takes away your driver's license and your access to any dangerous machinery.

True knee-jerk Republican reaction with a utterly tragic lack of critical thinking skills.  It truly makes me sad that there are people who think like you. You are a glaring symptom of what is wrong with this country and this whole farking planet.  Congratulations.


According to NPR, money in politics doesn't even come close to guaranteeing a victory.
 
2013-04-24 04:00:54 PM  

minoridiot: Calling something "retribution" is not exactly the same as saying "they got what they deserved".


No, that's exactly what it means.
 
2013-04-24 04:02:47 PM  

BgJonson79: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.

So the solution to get back at America is to bomb people watching runners?  Isn't that blaming the victim?  I mean, they didn't attack soldiers or raid a Marine base...


Did you even read what I wrote?  I clearly stated that bombing civilians is the WORST way to get back at America.  American citizens are not responsible for what the government has done.  Not really, not anymore.  We "elect" these people, but only based on what we are spoon-fed by the massive money machine that tells most Americans what to think.  We, as a nation, are that stupid and gullible.  Our opinions are malleable and we have so much political fatigue that most of us would rather not deal with it so we can get back to Dancing with the Stars and stuffing our faces with unhealthy food.

Our government is COMPLETELY bought and paid for by monied interests.  And those interests want more money and more power.  They finance candidates, get them elected and tell them what to do.  And the assholes do it, no matter if it is inadvisable, short-sighted, or downright cruel.

But bombing civilians is NOT going to make America stop doing its dastardly deeds.  It will make the government of America do even more.  The only difference is the degree with with we will strike back.  That depends on the administration and who is holding the purse strings at the time.  But both sides have farked our foreign policy over the decades.

What really sucks is that even though we are completely farked as a country, led by evil idiots, America is still the best country on the planet.  How sad is that for planet Earth?
 
2013-04-24 04:05:23 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: BgJonson79: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.

So the solution to get back at America is to bomb people watching runners?  Isn't that blaming the victim?  I mean, they didn't attack soldiers or raid a Marine base...

Did you even read what I wrote?  I clearly stated that bombing civilians is the WORST way to get back at America.  American citizens are not responsible for what the government has done.  Not really, not anymore.  We "elect" these people, but only based on what we are spoon-fed by the massive money machine that tells most Americans what to think.  We, as a nation, are that stupid and gullible.  Our opinions are malleable and we have so much political fatigue that most of us would rather not deal with it so we can get back to Dancing with the Stars and stuffing our faces with unhealthy food.

Our government is COMPLETELY bought and paid for by ...


You stated that it's the worst way, but you still said we get what we deserve...
 
2013-04-24 04:05:43 PM  

keypusher: minoridiot: Calling something "retribution" is not exactly the same as saying "they got what they deserved".

No, that's exactly what it means.


Then I guess it's a good thing he didn't call it retribution.
 
2013-04-24 04:10:34 PM  

BgJonson79: BgJonson79: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point. I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved. I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment. More accurately, our government deserves it.


You stated that it's the worst way, but you still said we get what we deserve...

Not we as citizens.  We as a nation, and more directly the elected officials who do the terrible shiat America is famous for.

I should have known not to try a layered, nuanced or detailed response to something on Fark.
 
2013-04-24 04:15:28 PM  
"Richard Falk said in a statment that Bostonians got what they deserved noting that George W. Bush sought a pre-text to invade Iraq "

Because Bostonians were such big supporters of Bush.  What an asswipe.
 
2013-04-24 04:15:38 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: BgJonson79: BgJonson79: AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point. I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved. I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment. More accurately, our government deserves it.

You stated that it's the worst way, but you still said we get what we deserve...

Not we as citizens.  We as a nation, and more directly the elected officials who do the terrible shiat America is famous for.

I should have known not to try a layered, nuanced or detailed response to something on Fark.


Nah, you should have known not to bite the hook :-P
 
2013-04-24 04:17:29 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I should have known not to try a layered, nuanced or detailed response to something on Fark.


This from someone named AdolfOliverPanties :)
 
2013-04-24 04:18:44 PM  

lilbjorn: "Richard Falk said in a statment that Bostonians got what they deserved noting that George W. Bush sought a pre-text to invade Iraq "

Because Bostonians were such big supporters of Bush.  What an asswipe.


The actual article is posted ITT at 2:15.  That's not what he said.

/"statment" might have been your first clue
 
2013-04-24 04:20:24 PM  
Princess Ryans Knickers:John F. Kennedy stated:

"I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. "


Not interested in reading the rest of that interview, where Kennedy decries the communist takeover and Casto's tactics? Statement of agreement with motivations does not make an agreement of policy (or as you would have it, collusion)

So you deny that the United States and the CIA had nothing to do with Khomeini?

Can't speak for the CIA, but the State Department (under whose auspices the CIA is run) wanted nothing to do with Khomeni.

 Yes we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua (that would be the pro-democratic, anti-Communist rebels).

Glad you agree.


But probably not for the reasons you're thinking

And so you don't deny that we first trained and supplied bin Laden, nor do you deny that other statement of mine that we had to clean up the mess that was made of our country due to him? Sticking our noses where they don't belong.

You mean, after bin Laden came to us and offered his help in attacking the Soviets in Afghanistan, and we took advantage of that? Let me repeat that... bin Laden first approached US and offered assistance in dealing with what was considered at the time a mutual problem. No one at the time could foresee what bin Laden was going to become.

Sticking OUR nose in Korea? Maybe you mean the United Nations.
United States Army Military Government of Korea ring any bells? We were involved before the UN was. Since the United States fairly much controls and leads the UN, you do the math.


United States Army Military Government IN Korea, maybe? The provisional governing body that was in place after WWII, when the occupying Japanese Army was removed?  You might very well, in the same breath, ask about the Soviet Army doing the same thing in North Korea.

And the U.S. controls and leads the UN? That would be news to the UN.

Chechnya? You mean where we condemned the the Chechens use terrorism and sent humanitarian aid, and tried to get the Russians to negotiate? And where do you find that we sent Saudi terrorists to "interfere" (interfere with what, might I ask?)?

Do a Google book search. You can
see the old newspaper articles about it from 1999. We were asked point blank by Russia to stop interfering.

We were asked point blank by Russia to stop interfering because they didn't want us watching what they were doing, and they wanted us to stop sending humanitarian aid to the area (you see, we were trying to be the good guy and help people who had been harmed by both Chechen terrorists AND by the Russian military crackdown on the violence there, which was VERY heavy-handed). But you don't seem interested in that. It seems that you believe that if the U.S. does or even says anything about any kind of world event, then we are "interfering" and "sticking our nose where it doesn't belong". Oh, sometimes we do, I'll give you that. But not nearly as often as your fevered imagination would have it, and more than likely for none of the reason you'd actually believe.
 
2013-04-24 04:21:24 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: AdolfOliverPanties: I should have known not to try a layered, nuanced or detailed response to something on Fark.

This from someone named AdolfOliverPanties :)


Never have been really happy with that handle, but when I signed up for Fark I didn't think I'd still be coming here ten years later or whatever.
 
2013-04-24 04:28:32 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Never have been really happy with that handle, but when I signed up for Fark I didn't think I'd still be coming here ten years later or whatever.


Tattoo's can be removed. A FARK handle is forever

Like herpes.
without the visible sores.
 
2013-04-24 04:34:43 PM  

LonMead: AdolfOliverPanties: Never have been really happy with that handle, but when I signed up for Fark I didn't think I'd still be coming here ten years later or whatever.

Tattoo's can be removed. A FARK handle is forever

Like herpes.
without the visible sores.


Tell me about it.
 
2013-04-24 04:37:17 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: In 1939, FDR called for the combatant nations in WWII to agree to never bomb civilians.

By the end of the war, the US had killed 500,000+ German civilians through bombing. In one raid on Tokyo, we burned to death 100,000 civilians. We used two nuclear bombs on Japan--the only use of nuclear weapons in war to date--and killed more than 250,000 civilians with them.

It's understandable that SOME people would have a problem with a country that went from saving millions from starvation in the Soviet Union to annihilating civilian populations of enemy countries. The Nazis championed that tactic from the start; we began differently.

However, as someone once said, the greatest moral failure the United States could have made in World War II was to lose the war. That we didn't do.


www.osborneink.com
 
2013-04-24 04:38:08 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: LonMead: AdolfOliverPanties: Never have been really happy with that handle, but when I signed up for Fark I didn't think I'd still be coming here ten years later or whatever.

Tattoo's can be removed. A FARK handle is forever

Like herpes.
without the visible sores.

Tell me about it.


*checks profile...*

Hey... 11-29! My birthday!

I've got some Coke. And some root beer, too. I just went to the store
 
2013-04-24 04:39:26 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Never have been really happy with that handle, but when I signed up for Fark I didn't think I'd still be coming here ten years later or whatever.


Life choices are a biatch, man, it's like a permenant record...

:)
 
2013-04-24 04:46:39 PM  

DubtodaIll: I'm only insulted that you think I'd pay attention to infowars or Glenn Blech or Gleen Beck.  Just because I'm conservative doesn't make me willfully blind and stupid. Like I said I'm not terribly informed about the U.N.  I only know them mostly from pop culture references and these kinds of news stories. I'm sure the U.N. does plenty of good at the ground level, but there seems to be a disconnect with reality as far as many of the speeches given at the general assembly.  Though it is possible I just live in a bubble or something.  As if someone set up this place where I could just say whatever I wanted, often purposefully against the presiding authority, and get away with it.  Huh...interesting.



But you have heard of Agenda 21. of course you've heard of Agenda 21 and what it's doing to our children, right?

Also, if the world judged America solely by the speeches they heard in our legislative assemblies, they would have good cause to hate us given the uninformed vitriol that comes out of those places. Thankfully, most of the world realizes this, cuz that's how republics work, and they watch for what we pass and execute as laws.  Try to do the same for the UN as the analogy is quite apt.
 
2013-04-24 04:56:22 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: LonMead:
You obviously failed history class the first time... why put yourself through it again?
But, since you asked, some examples:
The U.S. had nothing to do with Batista's overthrow in Cuba (in fact, the U.S. tried to get rid of Castro, and has had an embargo on the country since the 60's)
Actually we did.

John F. Kennedy stated:

"I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. "

The U.S. had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Shah (in fact, one of the reasons Khomeni's followers took and held the U.S. Embassy during this period had to do with U.S. support of the Shah).

So you deny that the United States and the CIA had nothing to do with Khomeini?

 Yes we trained and supplied the rebels in Nicaragua (that would be the pro-democratic, anti-Communist rebels).


Glad you agree.

We went after bin Laden because bin Laden came at us.

And so you don't deny that we first trained and supplied bin Laden, nor do you deny that other statement of mine that we had to clean up the mess that was made of our country due to him? Sticking our noses where they don't belong.


Sticking OUR nose in Korea? Maybe you mean the United Nations.
United States Army Military Government of Korea ring any bells? We were involved before the UN was. Since the United States fairly much controls and leads the UN, you do the math.
 

Chechnya? You mean where we condemned the the Chechens use terrorism and sent humanitarian aid, and tried to get the Russians to negotiate? And where do you find that we sent Saudi terrorists to "interfere" (interfere with what, might I ask?)?

Do a Google book search. You can ...


The Contras were not pro-democracy. They were anti-Sandinista, which doesn't even mean anti-communist.  Many of them were National Guardsmen who escaped.  Yknow, the guys who raped and killed nuns for the heck of it, those guys. And don't forget Al Haig's famous "Cubans play baseball" as evidence that the Sandinistas were supported directly by Cuban arms.  he forgot that baseball was also Nicaragua's national sport, not soccer. He forgot because he was a propagandist and a traitor who illegally supplied weapons to known drug dealers, murderers, and anti-democratic rebels by circumventing the laws of the United States.

Let me be clear: I'm not defending the Sandinistas. I'm saying that if you support the Contras you need to re-examine your history.
 
2013-04-24 04:58:54 PM  
Tommy Moo:

I don't agree with all the aspects of our foreign policy either. Terrorists are still goddamn cowards. If they were really so righteous, they would march on Washington and die trying to take on the Army, not go after civilians.

I think we'd all agree.  The problem is when you say that Islam = terrorist, therefore let's kill all the Muslims.  So don't say that.
 
2013-04-24 05:02:38 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The guy has a point.  I won't go as far as to say that Boston go what it deserved.  I will say that as much as America does butt in and does back bad guys from time to time and does seem to be war-hungry almost all the time, how this sort of thing hasn't happened hundreds of times before on US soil is a mystery.

As a nation, we deserve this kind of treatment.  More accurately, our government deserves it.  If the terrorists really want to get back at those that they feel have wronged them, American citizenry should not be the target.  They should do some research and go after the big money entities that fund the military industrial complex and back government leaders with shiat-tons of money to get what they want out of the world.  And then, go after the leaders themselves.

Attacking a pretty farking ignorant populace that is only too eager to suck up the government's assessment of things is not going to accomplish a single farking thing.  They attack citizens, the government tells the citizens who did it and who to hate, the citizens believe it, and the government goes on doing whatever the hell the rich entities tell them to.


Go fark yourself. really.
 
2013-04-24 05:18:40 PM  

minoridiot: Calling something "retribution" is not exactly the same as saying "they got what they deserved". I can't say I entirely disagree with his point.  The US has had a long history of a belief in our manifest destiny to police the world and enforce democracy commerce at whatever price.  We should focus on solving our internal problems before we start looking for ways to solve the problems of others.


Fixed for you
 
2013-04-24 05:24:11 PM  
Akshully, this all started thousands of years ago when Ugh hit Urg over the head with a big stick and stole his wild boar.

From then on, whoever had the biggest stick could call the tune.

Nothing has changed. Suck it up weak nations and peoples and remember poor Urg.
 
2013-04-24 05:46:22 PM  

partisan222: DubtodaIll: What's the point of the UN again?  I've never really studied it's history but the current culture there is fairly disgusting.  Unaccountable appointed jackwagons that espouse hatred for the U.S. while gleefully enjoying the facilities and privileges provided by U.S. success.  Not to mention the U.N. is in NYC.

But really, has the U.N. ever done anything more important than strongly worded letters?  I googled U.N. success and only got links to un.org.

I know! John Bolton was an assclown and brought shame to the organization!

And screw all those kids who learned to read or were treated for diseases under UN programs, not to mention the absolute waste spent on rebuilding impoverished countries after natural disasters. we all know the US has done far more for Haiti than the UN ever did.

And Bush I, with the First Iraq War - what a joke that he used the UN to build a coalition of over 100 nations to give legitimacy to his invasion. His son sure learned what a waste the UN was when he went in with a coalition of the willing - it turned out way better!

/sarcasm off
//go read a book, stop reading infowars and Glenn Blech


I wouldn't really bring up the UN in Haiti as any sort of model, what with that dysentery thing.

/Actually Haiti's farked no matter who tries to help
 
2013-04-24 05:52:47 PM  

partisan222: Tommy Moo:

I don't agree with all the aspects of our foreign policy either. Terrorists are still goddamn cowards. If they were really so righteous, they would march on Washington and die trying to take on the Army, not go after civilians.

I think we'd all agree.  The problem is when you say that Islam = terrorist, therefore let's kill all the Muslims.  So don't say that.


I have never advocated for "killing all the Muslims." I have advocated for killing terrorists, and exposing the fallacious ideas that develop and shield the terrorists, which involves arguing against and taking to task the unsavory beliefs of "moderate" Islam.
 
2013-04-24 06:29:26 PM  
those sluts deserved to be raped because of the moral customs they ignored, the way they were dressed, the alcohol they consumed, and their ugly stupid behavior in general.

/ watch this drive
 
2013-04-24 06:46:52 PM  
That eight year old kid that was killed in the bombing was a filthy American imperialist anyway.  Or he would have been, if he had lived.
 
2013-04-24 07:19:42 PM  

tirob: That eight year old kid that was killed in the bombing was a filthy American imperialist anyway.  Or he would have been, if he had lived.


Live by the swizzle, die by the nizzle

i021.radikal.ru
 
2013-04-24 09:14:42 PM  
He's an Economics Ph.D. He might as well be an Astrologer.
 
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