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(With Leather)   Chael Sonnen touched an ESPN anchor's hair yesterday. Exhibit K that Chael Sonnen is not taking UFC 159 seriously enough   (withleather.uproxx.com) divider line 34
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2013-04-24 12:07:04 PM
He can cut a promo better than 90% of the WWE roster
 
2013-04-24 12:18:37 PM
Give Chael all the crap you want, but as far as I can tell he's a true company man. He knows that it's his job to get asses in seats/watching at home and he's trying his best to do so. Jones on the other hand is on his bushido/road of the warrior grind to notice that yes it's about fighting but at the same time it's mainly about getting people to watch you fight.

No doubt that people respect the technique but this is all entertainment, and that is why I'm hoping Chael will put on a show this Saturday.

/He'll probably lose, but he'll go down trying his hardest
 
2013-04-24 12:35:48 PM

VvonderJesus: He can cut a promo better than 90% of the WWE roster


THIS

Just go the Ken Shamrock route and jump to WWE after you get our azz handed to you
 
2013-04-24 12:49:53 PM
i liked how during the pre fight build up against anderson silva he was talking trash about silvas black belt from Nog... that was some sweet karma right there
 
2013-04-24 12:50:14 PM

VvonderJesus: He can cut a promo better than 90% of the WWE roster


Chael is a graduate of the (now defunct) WCW Power Plant school.


LegacyDL:


/He'll probably lose, but he'll go down trying trolling his hardest


Fixed
 
2013-04-24 12:59:36 PM
Say what you want, he is hillariously good at stringing it all together. He's also got a punchers chance to win. If he gets a belt, Dana is going to have to reel in his mouth a bit though.
 
2013-04-24 01:11:09 PM
Exhibits A through J were his appearences on DLHQ, I assume.
 
2013-04-24 01:24:39 PM
shifter_: He's also got a punchers chance to win.

He does?
 
2013-04-24 01:38:57 PM

shifter_: Say what you want, he is hillariously good at stringing it all together. He's also got a punchers chance to win. If he gets a belt, Dana is going to have to reel in his mouth a bit though.


Wut?
 
2013-04-24 02:00:00 PM
Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.
 
2013-04-24 02:07:36 PM

shifter_: Say what you want, he is hillariously good at stringing it all together. He's also got a punchers chance to win. If he gets a belt, Dana is going to have to reel in his mouth a bit though.


You know how I know you've never seen a Chael Sonnen fight?
 
2013-04-24 03:44:28 PM
Right, because following a grieling 8-10 week training camp, doing commentary for one event and making a handful of required media appearances during the week off leading up to the fight shows a lack of focus and commitment.

Chael's main path to victory is that he has great takedowns and top control, and we haven't seen Bones fight off his back much. Chael is willing to take damage coming forward to commit to a takedown-centric gameplan, and recall that the fat ghost of Rampage was able to close the distance on Jones, who doesn't always use his length as effectively as he could to control distance (probably because he loves throwing elbows). Chael has a chance, but if he gets put on his back even once, he may take too much damage in just a minute or two to be able to keep it up.
 
2013-04-24 05:32:59 PM

Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.


I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.
 
2013-04-24 05:49:28 PM
As much as i want Chael to win, he doesn't have much of a chance. He needs to somehow take down Jones and keep top control. If he does have to standup, dart and move and do damage on the inside. I doubt that Jones will look like he went through a fight while Chael's face will be cut up
 
2013-04-24 05:56:09 PM

shifter_: Say what you want, he is hillariously good at stringing it all together. He's also got a punchers chance to win. If he gets a belt, Dana is going to have to reel in his mouth a bit though.

Are you high?


Sonnen is a grinder. He also stops promoting once the door shuts. That dude whooped Anderson Silva for 6 of 7 rounds. I think this fight goes 4 rounds with jones getting the TKO in the 4th.

Sonnen is not a walkthrough opponent.
 
2013-04-24 06:13:08 PM

LegacyDL: Give Chael all the crap you want, but as far as I can tell he's a true company man. He knows that it's his job to get asses in seats/watching at home and he's trying his best to do so. Jones on the other hand is on his bushido/road of the warrior grind to notice that yes it's about fighting but at the same time it's mainly about getting people to watch you fight. has Asperger's.


FTFY.

/Seriously, am I the only one who sees this?
 
2013-04-24 06:27:04 PM

the biggest redneck here: Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.


Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.  Not saying Sonnen can out and out beat Jones any day but if it's going his way he can get inside of Jones' punches and at least make a run at him.

/And if he's a +600 or better why not at least root for the upset?
 
2013-04-24 06:56:11 PM

LegacyDL: Give Chael all the crap you want, but as far as I can tell he's a true company man. He knows that it's his job to get asses in seats/watching at home and he's trying his best to do so. Jones on the other hand is on his bushido/road of the warrior grind to notice that yes it's about fighting but at the same time it's mainly about getting people to watch you fight.

No doubt that people respect the technique but this is all entertainment, and that is why I'm hoping Chael will put on a show this Saturday.

/He'll probably lose, but he'll go down trying his hardest


I can't wait. My wife and I discovered, for UFC 157, that bars will show the fight to get you to come in and get drunk? Whodathunk??

Chael has to be taking it a little serious. You can tell he's cut some weight since TUF. Personally, I think he's playing the nice guy thing to get in Jones' head. I'm picking him to win the fight. Probably won't happen because my picks have been shiat lately (2/12 for Fox 7).
 
2013-04-24 07:26:44 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: the biggest redneck here: Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.

Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.



Except Jones has finished 8 of his last 10 opponents.
 
2013-04-24 07:28:57 PM
Chael will last EXACTLY however long Jones allows him to.  Not one second shorter or longer.

Then, hopefully he can take his tired act elsewhere, maybe to WWE.  I understand Dana needs to hype fights and he appreciates guys who can sell tickets with their mouths, but I actually think it's going to backfire on this one.  Chael couldn't get it done at Middleweight.  Now he's supposed to be challenging a BIGGER fighter whose MMA wrestling will easily neutralize Chael's biggest weapon (besides TRT)?  Only the suckeriest of suckers thinks Chael has any chance in this fight.

I applaud Jones for being a good company man for going along with this nonsense 'challenger.'  And I loved that he called out Chael's TRT use as cheating on UFC Tonight (and I laughed hard at how quickly and awkwardly Dominick Cruz changed the subject right away).
 
2013-04-24 07:30:54 PM
Oh, and side question: which camp is sadder right now, Caesar Gracie's school, or the Blackzillians?
 
2013-04-24 07:33:44 PM

Orgasmatron138: Oh, and side question: which camp is sadder right now, Caesar Gracie's school, or the Blackzillians?


Trick question, the Blackzillians isn't a fight camp.
 
2013-04-24 07:39:56 PM
I don't really follow UFC, so I've never heard of the guy before, but after that clip I'm kind of a fan...
 
2013-04-24 07:56:03 PM
It has amazed me how little this fight has been hyped. It should be a big seller so you'd think Chael and the UFC would have more commercials and interviews. I know why Jones doesn't do them: he sucks at promos. I can't wait to see if Chael can give Jones a fight, he is a great wrestler but it's pretty well established at this point Bones is a better one, with much better striking. I just hope it's an entertaining fight either way, and wouldn't mind if Chael won just for the lulz that would ensue.
 
2013-04-24 07:58:38 PM

whooter: I don't really follow UFC, so I've never heard of the guy before, but after that clip I'm kind of a fan...


eh, there are better high-charisma fighters in the UFC. Unfortunately, many of the champs/top contenders aren't.

GSP has the personality of plywood, for example.
 
2013-04-24 09:00:43 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.  Not saying Sonnen can out and out beat Jones any day but if it's going his way he can get inside of Jones' punches and at least make a run at him.


Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.


Have you two never seen Jones fight?  Jones has been to decision three times in his career, once in the last four years and once in his last ten fights.  And Sonnen never gets finished, right?
 
2013-04-24 09:44:11 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: Ken VeryBigLiar: Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.  Not saying Sonnen can out and out beat Jones any day but if it's going his way he can get inside of Jones' punches and at least make a run at him.

Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

Have you two never seen Jones fight?  Jones has been to decision three times in his career, once in the last four years and once in his last ten fights.  And Sonnen never gets finished, right?


Bonnar, O'Brien, Hamill, Vera, Matyushenko, Bader was his road to the title.

Rua and Machida are the only two impressive opponents on his record and Rua is 2-2 since Jones.

Hes faced some guys that had trouble making it through Keith Jardine, and 2 of his other opponents actually lost to Keith Jardine.

Jones is a standout in a division that doesn't look so strong.

We've reached peak LHW.

The only fighter that might even have a poisitive record since their loss to Jones is Machida.
 
2013-04-24 09:44:25 PM

Orgasmatron138: Oh, and side question: which camp is sadder right now, Caesar Gracie's school, or the Blackzillians?


That's a good question. Blackzilians seems to be a revolving door of coaches and fighters, and nobody has seemed to benefit from being a part of it. Fighters seem to be worse and unfocused after training there. Examples: Overeem and Evans. Overeem was a complete fraud in the first place, but if he had a coach with half a brain, they would have told him to go into the Silva fight acting seriously and not behaving like an arrogant jackhole. Rashad Evans would have never lost that fight to Little Nog when he was training at Jackson's, and he sure as hell wouldn't have just stood and pawed with him for 3 horrible rounds.

Cesar Gracie's camp is now 0-5 in UFC title shots. I get the impression that Cesar is a dishonest manager who is probably ripping off his fighters, especially the Diaz brothers. What baffles me with this camp, is that with the big 4 they have there (Diaz, Diaz, Melendez, Shields), nobody seems to learn a thing from each other. The Diaz brothers have Melendez and shields to train with, and still can't wrestle at all. Shields has the Diaz brothers and Melendez to train with, and still has the striking of a drunk with cerebral palsy. Melendez has the Diaz brothers and Shields to train with, and doesn't have a submission in his entire career (not counting a tap to strikes). Regardless, and serious fighter would be well-advised to avoid both these camps.

As far as Jones/Sonnen goes, Sonnen really has nothing to gain from a serious camp. If you bet on MMA, Jones is free money at any odds in this fight. Being that Sonnen gets PPV cuts, and that Jones has a clear advantage in pretty much everything, Sonnen's best use of this fight is to run his mouth, sell fights, and get as much money in his pocket as possible. Jones easily wins the striking and submission game, and at worst, can simply try to neutralize Sonnen's wrestling to set up strikes. Sonnen might, but probably won't, get a takedown or two, but won't be able to do anything with it. He's not going to sub Jones, and he sure as hell won't knock him out. Furthermore, Sonnen does not have the mental game to win a 5 round fight, and he has proven that on multiple occasions.
 
2013-04-24 11:04:24 PM

Flappyhead: Ken VeryBigLiar: the biggest redneck here: Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.

Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.


Except Jones has finished 8 of his last 10 opponents.


Most of what he fought before Bader was a tomato can or a gatekeeper. Not to mention Rampage hasn't been interested for since he was in 'The A-Team'. Granted, he's no GSP in terms of sitting back and letting the fight come to him but it feels like half the rounds I watch him he's content to keep everyone at length and cruise.
 
2013-04-25 02:08:06 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Flappyhead:

Except Jones has finished 8 of his last 10 opponents.

Most of what he fought before Bader was a tomato can or a gatekeeper. Not to mention Rampage hasn't been interested for since he was in 'The A-Team'. Granted, he's no GSP in terms of sitting back and letting the fight come to him but it feels like half the rounds I watch him he's content to keep everyone at length and cruise.


How the hell did these goalposts get over here?
 
2013-04-25 08:33:47 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Flappyhead: Ken VeryBigLiar: the biggest redneck here: Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.

Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.


Except Jones has finished 8 of his last 10 opponents.

Most of what he fought before Bader was a tomato can or a gatekeeper. Not to mention Rampage hasn't been interested for since he was in 'The A-Team'. Granted, he's no GSP in terms of sitting back and letting the fight come to him but it feels like half the rounds I watch him he's content to keep everyone at length and cruise.


I'd ask what you're talking about, but it's evident that you don't know.
 
2013-04-25 09:05:15 AM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Flappyhead: Ken VeryBigLiar: the biggest redneck here: Giltric: Chael might be able to out rassle the dui guy but I think drunky mcalmostlosthissponsors will take him 49-46 a la the greg jackson fight to not lose strategy.

I say Jones does whatever the fu*k he wants with Sonnen, finishes him when and how he decides.

Jones is a Jackson fighter, they never finish anyone.  They're happy to outpoint everybody and play not to lose.


Except Jones has finished 8 of his last 10 opponents.

Most of what he fought before Bader was a tomato can or a gatekeeper. Not to mention Rampage hasn't been interested for since he was in 'The A-Team'. Granted, he's no GSP in terms of sitting back and letting the fight come to him but it feels like half the rounds I watch him he's content to keep everyone at length and cruise.


If you're going to be one of those guys who biatches about GSP, at least get the complaints right.  GSP dominates his fights and takes it to his opponents.  He just doesn't finish them.  He's content to keep the dominant position and let the clock run.
 
2013-04-25 05:11:29 PM
Put me in the "Chael has virtually no freaking chance" category. I wouldn't bet on Jones at +800, though, only because I don't like betting heavy favorites.
 
2013-04-25 07:33:13 PM

NorCalLos: Put me in the "Chael has virtually no freaking chance" category. I wouldn't bet on Jones at +800, though, only because I don't like betting heavy favorites.


I would feel safe parlaying him into any other bet I made. I would imagine Jones' line is going to come down before the event. Chael is a master at selling himself, and the "I believe in Chael Sonnen" crowd is going to piss away some money on him.
 
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