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2013-04-24 11:21:39 AM  
And why should IKEA?
 
2013-04-24 11:25:05 AM  
Once the user starts to screw the leg, the robot becomes stiff to facilitate the task.

Why am I suddenly turned on?

/this is also the first question a robot would ask
 
2013-04-24 11:41:05 AM  
That's the very rare "single umlaut", not a misused apostrophe, right  subby?
 
2013-04-24 11:46:33 AM  
farm5.static.flickr.com

"Enjoy your affordable Swedish crap."
 
2013-04-24 11:56:01 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-24 12:03:21 PM  
It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.


Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.
 
2013-04-24 12:12:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.


It's ignorance bragging rights. "I'm horrible at math", "I can't parallel park!", "I can't put together IKEA furniture!".
 
2013-04-24 12:14:39 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.


I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.
 
2013-04-24 12:20:09 PM  

exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.


Huh.  I've only once gotten a wobbly shelf, and that's because I didn't square it properly before screwing in the braces.  So I re-did them.  Right as rain.
 
2013-04-24 12:31:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

Huh.  I've only once gotten a wobbly shelf, and that's because I didn't square it properly before screwing in the braces.  So I re-did them.  Right as rain.


I glue all my IKEA furniture where possible. Stuff has held up really well thus far.
 
2013-04-24 12:42:31 PM  

bdub77: Benevolent Misanthrope: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

Huh.  I've only once gotten a wobbly shelf, and that's because I didn't square it properly before screwing in the braces.  So I re-did them.  Right as rain.

I glue all my IKEA furniture where possible. Stuff has held up really well thus far.


And also, people sometimes don't know that you can get shiatty Ikea, and decent Ikea.  Lots of things they make are still solid wood.  And even in the pressboard stuff - some is better than others.

For my money, you can't beat the MALM bedroom.  GOD I love that stuff.  Just be sure to get a solid mattress foundation that fits inside the bed frame, instead of using slats, and you'll never have a problem.
 
2013-04-24 12:46:33 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope:

For my money, you can't beat the MALM bedroom.  GOD I love that stuff.  Just be sure to get a solid mattress foundation that fits inside the bed frame, instead of using slats, and you'll never have a problem.

Heh.  I was just at IKEA a weekend ago and decided to upgrade my bedroom to the MALM stuff.  Good stuff, good times.
 
2013-04-24 12:47:28 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: For my money, you can't beat the MALM bedroom.  GOD I love that stuff.  Just be sure to get a solid mattress foundation that fits inside the bed frame, instead of using slats, and you'll never have a problem.


I got the Malm Bed, had for a few years, but then the stupid sides started bowing, and the slates would always fall off. Always in the middle of the night, and I'd always be afraid of moving even a little bit.

But then I got the Alsarp storage unit, which fits perfectly inside the Malm bed. So now I don't need the slats any more, and I have tons of storage under the bed.

That was probably my biggest assembly operation, putting two of those together.
 
2013-04-24 12:48:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.


I've never had missing parts. But oddly enough, I've never had extra parts either. It's strange how they can make it so precise every time. No matter how tiny the part is, there's always exactly enough.
 
2013-04-24 12:49:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.




I like it when a key part is shown in the instructions but that part doesn't exist until you assamble it. Of course instructions for how have been ommited.
 
2013-04-24 12:52:30 PM  

finnished: Benevolent Misanthrope: For my money, you can't beat the MALM bedroom.  GOD I love that stuff.  Just be sure to get a solid mattress foundation that fits inside the bed frame, instead of using slats, and you'll never have a problem.

I got the Malm Bed, had for a few years, but then the stupid sides started bowing, and the slates would always fall off. Always in the middle of the night, and I'd always be afraid of moving even a little bit.

But then I got the Alsarp storage unit, which fits perfectly inside the Malm bed. So now I don't need the slats any more, and I have tons of storage under the bed.

That was probably my biggest assembly operation, putting two of those together.


They may have fixed the bowing...not sure.  I just got a new bed there (can't remember the name) to replace a Malm (or rather the Malm was passed down to another child).  The new bed came with some small metal cross braces to counteract the bowing.
 
2013-04-24 12:58:45 PM  
I've put together some of their stuff. Not the highest quality screws to be sure. I have on occasion used glue and a pin nailer to beef up some of the shakier stuff... but that was a long time ago. As my friend says, 'Ikea, their good stuff ain't cheap and their cheap stuff ain't good.' If I need some crap furniture these days I'll just craigslist it or go to goodwill. Haven't been in well over a decade.
 
2013-04-24 01:01:31 PM  
All those umlauts and not a single ring?

/Min svävare är full av ålar
 
2013-04-24 01:09:32 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: And also, people sometimes don't know that you can get shiatty Ikea, and decent Ikea.  Lots of things they make are still solid wood.  And even in the pressboard stuff - some is better than others.


In my experience it doesn't move well. Unfortunately, the sort of folk who buy a lot of Ikea furniture are, I assume, more frequent movers (recent grads, apartment dwellers, etc). Even the decent stuff starts to work loose at the joints after a couple moves, and the crappier stuff just falls apart. I'm tempted to try using glue and nails to reinforce a few pieces and see if that makes them a bit sturdier.
 
2013-04-24 01:10:33 PM  

Sybarite: [farm5.static.flickr.com image 500x313]

"Enjoy your affordable Swedish crap."


Came to post that, but I like the one I took a few frames later... gets the whole πkea joke.

i521.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-24 01:14:17 PM  
I have never had a problem with screwing together flat pack furniture... nailing the backs on are a form of torture and should be against the Geneva Convention..
 
2013-04-24 01:20:03 PM  

itsdan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

It's ignorance bragging rights. "I'm horrible at math", "I can't parallel park!", "I can't put together IKEA furniture!".


pretty much.

i've never had a single complaint and maybe it's just the items we buy, but all our ikea stuff has been solid as a rock. sure, it might be that i happen to be REALLY mechanically competent, but honestly, their instructions are pretty clear, and 90% of their assembly is pretty intuitive.

well except for that one chair but to be fair i'm a hefty fellow and i really shouldn't have rocked it back on two legs like i did. you could say i was asking for it.

but it really is true. their good stuff isn't cheap, and the cheap stuff is rarely good(with the caveat of 'if it doesn't have to be assembled it's gonna last').

i also rather enjoy the meatballs, much to the disturbance of my wife and kids.

/mmm lingonberry...
 
2013-04-24 01:24:36 PM  
i also rather enjoy the meatballs, much to the disturbance of my wife and kids.

/mmm lingonberry...


You mean the little Horsemeat Nuggets? Yes, don't you love the tangy flavour of a former racehorse................
 
2013-04-24 01:27:03 PM  

shifter_: i also rather enjoy the meatballs, much to the disturbance of my wife and kids.

/mmm lingonberry...

You mean the little Horsemeat Nuggets? Yes, don't you love the tangy flavour of a former racehorse................


I couldn't care less what the hell's in 'em. They're still delicious.

/and those $1 cinnamon buns in the checkout area
//fark, I'm going to Ikea after work, I was hoping to avoid that temptation
 
2013-04-24 01:27:27 PM  

dukeblue219: I'm tempted to try using glue and nails to reinforce a few pieces and see if that makes them a bit sturdier.


Guy who has done the same and used to install cabinets for a living says it absolutely will.
 
2013-04-24 01:28:16 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.


My whole apartment is IKEA furniture. If I have to move, and none of it fits the new place, to the recycling it goes!

I've never had difficulty building it - keeping a light touch from scratching it like a tiger swipe is the greater challenge.

Is building IKEA furniture the new "programming my VCR" for modern incompetent people?
 
2013-04-24 01:37:52 PM  

ThreadSinger: Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.

My whole apartment is IKEA furniture. If I have to move, and none of it fits the new place, to the recycling it goes!

I've never had difficulty building it - keeping a light touch from scratching it like a tiger swipe is the greater challenge.

Is building IKEA furniture the new "programming my VCR" for modern incompetent people?


Is this you?

i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com
 
2013-04-24 01:38:58 PM  

NuttierThanEver: ThreadSinger: Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.

My whole apartment is IKEA furniture. If I have to move, and none of it fits the new place, to the recycling it goes!

I've never had difficulty building it - keeping a light touch from scratching it like a tiger swipe is the greater challenge.

Is building IKEA furniture the new "programming my VCR" for modern incompetent people?

Is this you?

[i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com image 540x445]


He should hope so. That apartment looks pretty awesome.
 
2013-04-24 01:53:56 PM  

shifter_: i also rather enjoy the meatballs, much to the disturbance of my wife and kids.

/mmm lingonberry...

You mean the little Horsemeat Nuggets? Yes, don't you love the tangy flavour of a former racehorse................


i'll be totally honest, between you and me.

horse is delicious. a lot of animals that people are, for some ridiculous reason, squeamish about eating are incredibly tasty.

goat? can't get enough of it. i make a MEAN goat shank roast.

dog? little greasy but still quite tasty. man's best friend indeed. makes fantastic tacos.

cat? gamey but quite edible. good with a spicy-sweet sauce.

the entire reptile kingdom is quite good as well.

pigeon? bit light on the quantity but not bad. breast them out and discard the rest, too much work otherwise.

squirrel? makes great chili, as do all the other small game critters of the forest. tip: cook them for a long time or parbroil them first unless they're very young.

and lingonberry goes awesome with almost anything.
 
2013-04-24 02:20:55 PM  
As someone who all too frequently finds himself working in a new city, IKEA is the tits. End table? $9. Lamp? $3 bed frame, $40. When the contract is over it all goes in the dumpster. Previously I had spent $135/most on furniture rentals.
 
2013-04-24 02:35:19 PM  

exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.


I've certainly had issues with it.  Problems I've seen -- gotten wrong parts, poor quality materials, inexact drilling of some of the holes, that sort of thing.  It's pressboard furniture.  There's only so much you can get out of it.

We've got quite a few of their bookshelves and they work just fine.

The laminate flooring, while super cheap, is more difficult to install than typical laminate flooring.
 
2013-04-24 02:36:44 PM  

un4gvn666: shifter_: i also rather enjoy the meatballs, much to the disturbance of my wife and kids.

/mmm lingonberry...

You mean the little Horsemeat Nuggets? Yes, don't you love the tangy flavour of a former racehorse................

I couldn't care less what the hell's in 'em. They're still delicious.

/and those $1 cinnamon buns in the checkout area
//fark, I'm going to Ikea after work, I was hoping to avoid that temptation


I like their pizza.  The rest of the food there, though, seems to taste like typical cafeteria frozen food.
 
2013-04-24 02:46:20 PM  
CSS:

Then-husband and I pick up two 6' bookcases from Target, pretty heavy suckers, but nothing we can't handle (I'm 5'4, 160, he was 6'1, 375--not much we couldn't move between the two of us). The next day, he decides he's going to put one of the bookcases together by himself. I cheer him on, grab a book and make him some lemonade, and sit down on the couch to wait.

Sure enough, about 10 minutes later, I start hearing the sighing. It's that sigh of exasperation that you men get when you can't figure out how to do something but don't want to have to suck up your egos enough to ask for help. So I get up, together we put the bookcase together and stand it up. By the end, it's taken "us" about 4 hours to get it done. Then-husband loudly declares at the top of his lungs, "There is no way one person can put this together all by himself."

He had a very difficult time understanding how the other bookcase magically put itself together in 20 minutes while he was out shopping the next day.

/end CSS
//try tearing down and rebuilding an engine; IKEA-type furniture is easy in comparison
 
2013-04-24 03:24:13 PM  

NuttierThanEver: ThreadSinger: Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.

My whole apartment is IKEA furniture. If I have to move, and none of it fits the new place, to the recycling it goes!

I've never had difficulty building it - keeping a light touch from scratching it like a tiger swipe is the greater challenge.

Is building IKEA furniture the new "programming my VCR" for modern incompetent people?

Is this you?

[i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com image 540x445]


I make the Fight Club reference to people every time I go into IKEA.  I may have worn this out.
 
2013-04-24 03:24:41 PM  
I've never understood people who couldn't follow basic instructions with pictures of numbered parts to construct simple shapes. Communication of complex ideas and tool using are sort of what makes us human.
 
2013-04-24 03:39:44 PM  

Egoy3k: I've never understood people who couldn't follow basic instructions with pictures of numbered parts to construct simple shapes. Communication of complex ideas and tool using are sort of what makes us human.


This whole "written language" thing helps.
 
2013-04-24 03:45:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It is one of life's greatest frustrations -  the DIY flat-pack furniture which claims to be so simple to assemble it can be completed within minutes.

In reality, however, there are few of us who can claim to have completed the task with any degree of skill and with few friendships left intact.

Seriously?  Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard?  I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem.  No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets.  Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine.  Jesus.


I'm sure there is some exaggeration but I've never had any difficulty at all. Maybe certain pieces are more difficult somehow?
 
2013-04-24 03:51:20 PM  
As someone in the top 1% in mechanical aptitude, I'm getting a real kick out of this.

I've put together hundreds of pieces of IKEA type furniture and I've never even needed to open the instruction manual. I look at the picture on the box and the pieces spread out on the floor, and just instinctively know how to put it together.
 
2013-04-24 03:55:29 PM  

aiiee: As someone who all too frequently finds himself working in a new city, IKEA is the tits. End table? $9. Lamp? $3 bed frame, $40. When the contract is over it all goes in the dumpster. Previously I had spent $135/most on furniture rentals.


I was gonna say, if you have trouble disassembling Ikea furniture for a move at least it's not too expensive to replace. Honestly I think it's pretty decent for the price of most pieces. I'm sure some of it is worse than others but that goes for any company really.
 
2013-04-24 04:36:39 PM  

meanmutton: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

I've certainly had issues with it.  Problems I've seen -- gotten wrong parts, poor quality materials, inexact drilling of some of the holes, that sort of thing.  It's pressboard furniture.  There's only so much you can get out of it.

We've got quite a few of their bookshelves and they work just fine.

The laminate flooring, while super cheap, is more difficult to install than typical laminate flooring.




Pergo is the easiest to put down. So much easier with the foam attached to the boards.

Laminates just dont hold up in my experience. Plus the noise. Hate'em. Beats disgusting carpeting though. Put me in the tile category.
 
2013-04-24 04:40:39 PM  
Anyone find the revision for those Lack shelves that now only have a small metal bracket across the back without the poles running out to the edge a lot heavier and tedious then the previous ones?  I know they say brace it to the wall studs but doing that it doesn't seem all that safe.  Rated to 30lbs but the damn thing probably weighs 20 itself.
 
2013-04-24 05:20:47 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: meanmutton: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

I've certainly had issues with it.  Problems I've seen -- gotten wrong parts, poor quality materials, inexact drilling of some of the holes, that sort of thing.  It's pressboard furniture.  There's only so much you can get out of it.

We've got quite a few of their bookshelves and they work just fine.

The laminate flooring, while super cheap, is more difficult to install than typical laminate flooring.

Pergo is the easiest to put down. So much easier with the foam attached to the boards.

Laminates just dont hold up in my experience. Plus the noise. Hate'em. Beats disgusting carpeting though. Put me in the tile category.


ya gotta nail laminate down really thoroughly. like, go nuts with the stuff. if you have the dosh, invest in a big tube of gorilla glue and lay a bead on the bottom of each section of laminate.

i'm a big fan of well-laid out slate or granite myself.
 
2013-04-24 11:28:39 PM  
Another vote for tile/stone/textural concrete here.  Laminate floor sucks, I'd rather lay the real thing.
 
2013-04-25 12:05:20 AM  
I laugh at dipshiats that can't put IKEA stuff together.
 
2013-04-25 12:49:21 AM  

buttery_shame_cave: StoPPeRmobile: meanmutton: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

I've certainly had issues with it.  Problems I've seen -- gotten wrong parts, poor quality materials, inexact drilling of some of the holes, that sort of thing.  It's pressboard furniture.  There's only so much you can get out of it.

We've got quite a few of their bookshelves and they work just fine.

The laminate flooring, while super cheap, is more difficult to install than typical laminate flooring.

Pergo is the easiest to put down. So much easier with the foam attached to the boards.

Laminates just dont hold up in my experience. Plus the noise. Hate'em. Beats disgusting carpeting though. Put me in the tile category.

ya gotta nail laminate down really thoroughly. like, go nuts with the stuff. if you have the dosh, invest in a big tube of gorilla glue and lay a bead on the bottom of each section of laminate.

i'm a big fan of well-laid out slate or granite myself.




Slate can look amazing but it's a lot of work. Just did my patio/lanai in slate. Bang for the buck for sure. Returned 50% of the boxes, though. Cheap except for the time sink. Ceramic is sooo much faster.

Gorilla glue, eh? I thought about that but was worried about long term. Expansion and other types of movement. I hate that the joint curl. I'm used to the clear gorilla glue and that shiat expand like a mofo. Plus it's hard to clean up. RC planes live on gorilla glue.

The wood Gorilla glue, that's what you mean, right? It's much easier to clean but would it look professional when complete, I wonder. That shiat expandssssssssss.

/Tile, tile, tile, tile.
//solid woods or bamboo interests me but i don't think I have time to learn another skillset.
 
2013-04-25 01:22:48 AM  

Saiga410: I have never had a problem with screwing together flat pack furniture... nailing the backs on are a form of torture and should be against the Geneva Convention..


Agreed. It would be a lot less annoying if they would drill/punch/laser-blast some pilot holes for the nails. Supplying nails that are more rigid than a paperclip would also help. I'd gladly pay the extra $0.50 or whatever that might cost.
 
2013-04-25 01:53:07 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Saiga410: I have never had a problem with screwing together flat pack furniture... nailing the backs on are a form of torture and should be against the Geneva Convention..

Agreed. It would be a lot less annoying if they would drill/punch/laser-blast some pilot holes for the nails. Supplying nails that are more rigid than a paperclip would also help. I'd gladly pay the extra $0.50 or whatever that might cost.




Chipping.

Drill bit of the proper side are a pain too. Too easy to break them.

We are making up for their lack of QC. We make sure it's square.

Still beats that Sauder shiat from the early nineties.
 
2013-04-25 04:00:01 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: buttery_shame_cave: StoPPeRmobile: meanmutton: exick: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously? Do people really find Ikea furniture that hard? I have put together more than my fair share of the stuff, and I've never once had a problem. No missing parts, no stripped screws, no wobbly tables or cattywhompus cabinets. Just get organized and pay attention, and it's fine. Jesus.

I've never had any trouble putting any of it together, but wobbliness is a pretty standard result.

I've certainly had issues with it.  Problems I've seen -- gotten wrong parts, poor quality materials, inexact drilling of some of the holes, that sort of thing.  It's pressboard furniture.  There's only so much you can get out of it.

We've got quite a few of their bookshelves and they work just fine.

The laminate flooring, while super cheap, is more difficult to install than typical laminate flooring.

Pergo is the easiest to put down. So much easier with the foam attached to the boards.

Laminates just dont hold up in my experience. Plus the noise. Hate'em. Beats disgusting carpeting though. Put me in the tile category.

ya gotta nail laminate down really thoroughly. like, go nuts with the stuff. if you have the dosh, invest in a big tube of gorilla glue and lay a bead on the bottom of each section of laminate.

i'm a big fan of well-laid out slate or granite myself.

Slate can look amazing but it's a lot of work. Just did my patio/lanai in slate. Bang for the buck for sure. Returned 50% of the boxes, though. Cheap except for the time sink. Ceramic is sooo much faster.

Gorilla glue, eh? I thought about that but was worried about long term. Expansion and other types of movement. I hate that the joint curl. I'm used to the clear gorilla glue and that shiat expand like a mofo. Plus it's hard to clean up. RC planes live on gorilla glue.

The wood Gorilla glue, that's what you mean, right? It's much easier to clean but would it look professional when complete, I wonder. That shiat expandssssssssss.
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if you're pretty aggro about nailing the strips down as you lay them(edge nailing), they should resist being lifted by the expansion pretty well(i don't think it's all that strong of a force), and the glue should happily expand to fill voids and grip wide surfaces, which should keep things from riding up.
 
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