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(YouTube)   Al Qaeda spokesman to Muslims wanting to attack in the US: go to a gun show and buy an assault rifle. There are no background checks. Oh, and the video was uploaded in 2011 - well before Sandy Hook   (youtube.com ) divider line
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2013-04-24 10:46:54 AM  
8 votes:
I'm not worried about this, and you know why?

The folks who go to gun shows would never in a million years sell a gun to a guy who looked muslim-y.
2013-04-24 11:14:53 AM  
6 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Nabb1: I know there's this idea that gun shows are some sort of arms exchange free-for-all, but a lot of them are organized and run by licensed gun dealers, who actually do background checks. Private sellers are usually in the minority and even then they sell more accessories and other stuff than actual guns, especially assault rifles and the like.

A lot of gaps in there.

Where did the Tsarnaevs get theirs?


Williams-Sonoma, next to the pressure cookers
2013-04-24 11:29:18 AM  
5 votes:
i377.photobucket.com
2013-04-24 11:54:31 AM  
4 votes:
i253.photobucket.comMy opinions are never respected so I will just post my thoughtfully created Paintshoop, which is even less respected.
2013-04-24 12:36:13 PM  
3 votes:
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2013-04-24 12:05:42 PM  
3 votes:

Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.


Tats enjoys blood shed like most Israelis.

nigelparry.com
2013-04-24 11:16:50 AM  
3 votes:
Few few few!
2013-04-24 10:46:49 AM  
3 votes:

markie_farkie: Saw somewhere else that even if SOMEONE IS ON THE TERROR WATCHLIST they can still buy a firearm even with a background check..

WTF?


Do you mean to tell me that someone cannot be stripped of an enumerated Constitutional right by the government simply putting one's name on a list without any mechanism of notice or due process? This is unbelievable.
2013-04-24 03:10:29 PM  
2 votes:

Netrngr: Cletus C.: Netrngr: Cletus C.: Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.

Your right to buy crazy-assed, high-powered people killers and your freedom to do so without any hassle or documentation?

Our "way of lives" is kind of farked, frankly.

Actually true assault weapons really aren't either high powered or crazy-assed.. Most assault weapons have rounds that range between 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm the low end is a little bigger than a .22 around. powder charge is also reduced so they are a slower round than most. Not trying to invalidate your argument I just hate that certain types of guns get blamed for "gun violence" and they are actually in the extreme minority of the guns used to commit gun violence. A 12ga with 00 buck loads does a hell of a lot more damage.
5 rounds in a standard shotgun w/o a plug
00 buck contains 9 8.3mm pellets
Rem 1100 12ga can fire all 5 shells in about 2 sec maybe 3
Lets recap:
That's 45 8.3mm rounds going down range in 2-3 sec. Standard banana clip in an AR15 is 20 rounds so you have to reload twice. Ill stick with my 12ga thank you very much. There's a reason they call em street sweepers.

Sorry, I couldn't finish. I get all pissy when gun nuts start talking about their weapons like they're composing a farking Penthouse Forum letter.

But I'm sure your points were great.

You cant read it because it shows how uninformed you are. I was the unit armorer while I was in the Army so excuse me for knowing a little about the weapons you speak of. I can see you are someone who doesn't care about truthfulness or facts so I wont even attempt to check through your shell of willful ignorance.
FYI not a gun nut. Dont own any assault type weapons , a couple of 12ga shotguns, a .22 rifle and a ...


The real tipping point into gooberville is when you start posting pictures of all your guns arranged on your bed like your dolly collection. That's when your family and friends should have a talk with you.
2013-04-24 12:18:36 PM  
2 votes:
Terrorists are always welcome at our gun club... as long as they are willing to hold the targets.
2013-04-24 12:00:32 PM  
2 votes:

Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.


Having background checks doesn't change "our way of lives"
2013-04-24 11:08:08 AM  
2 votes:
Are they farking stupid? Do you REALLY want to be a muslim at a gunshow?!

Have you SEEN the type of people who show up at gunshows? It would be like making their dream come true
2013-04-24 07:17:51 PM  
1 vote:
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2013-04-24 03:56:38 PM  
1 vote:

smerfnablin: Ive been to several gun shows in Texas (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin) and they are all pretty much the same.

You walk into a large convention center with rows and rows of portable tables that have anywhere between 80 to 240 vendors.

1. As previously stated some of these vendors are licensed gun dealers who will make you fill out a NCIC form and phone it in right there on their cellphone. This would be the same type of transaction as walking into a gunstore and purchasing a firearm over the counter.

2. Some of these dealers are selling ammunition and accessories that do not require any of these forms.

3. There are a lot of arts and crafts vendors selling everything from knives made out of deer antlers to table lamps.

4. And then there are "private dealers" who will sell you a few used firearm face to face without a background check or any paperwork. The items are usually very over priced plus these types of individuals are few and far between. These are usually the guys that fly all the huge flags over their tables of objectionable message and have very interesting things to say about politics and religion.

Do you think a muslim with a noticeable accent really wants to approach one of these individuals and attempt to purchase a firearm from them?

No, dude, you got it all wrong. Gunshows are where people use loopholes to buy semi-auto (that's like *half* auto!) black assault rifles that have 500 round clips that are loaded with teflon coated, armor piercing, exploding cop killer bullets. The place is so full of nutjobs and psychos who love guns that it's a wonder a full scale fire-fight doesn't break out every 10 minutes. Plus you can buy bullets in boxes of **50**!! Who needs that many  Goddamn bullets at one time? For $200 you can get a sniper rifle specially designed to kill children from over 5 miles away, as well as night vision equipment that auto targets cops in total darkness and super powerful handheld lasers that will bring down police helicopters. If the government had any damn sense, it would host the country's largest gunshow, fill it to capacity, chain the doors shut, and burn it down, thus ending all of our problems forever.

/Actualy most of the private sales I bought have been quite reasonable. Got a '41 military luger for $900, a 1900 Mauser flatside C96 for $850, and a hi-standard model 10 shotgun for $300. (I don't think the lady knew what she had. They are worth at least twice that.)
2013-04-24 03:30:15 PM  
1 vote:

noitsnot: 1) "Some people" - Who are these people? Is your Canadian girlfriend one of them? (Sorry JohnnyCanuck - it's a US thing)


S'OK....my GF is Canadian too.

\but she actually exists...I think.
2013-04-24 03:15:12 PM  
1 vote:

GoldSpider: JohnnyCanuck: But why not simply register the objects with no purpose other than violence?

To believe that, you must believe there is no responsible way to use a gun that doesn't result in someone's death.  I keep the term "gun stupid" handy for such occasions.


No, but I believe that if you're using it lawfully then you should have no problem putting your name on it.

Some people believe that a registry would make it easier for the government to do so, should they ever decide it's in "the greater public good" to disarm the civilian populace.

Some people are paranoid delusional nut jobs.

I own several guns, and somehow I've managed to avoid what you consider "inevitable".  But good idea!


The day is young...who knows what will happen on your drive home.
2013-04-24 02:27:39 PM  
1 vote:

TheShavingofOccam123: Murdered. Shot repeatedly in the head by a mentally ill person with a gun.

/Sensible gun control laws now!


You do realize the cops believe the reason the bombers ambushed this cop, was because they wanted to steal his guns, right?
2013-04-24 02:02:30 PM  
1 vote:

Hydra: Manufacturers are already required to fire off a round from every gun they make for the ballistics record. Your point is moot.


What the heck good does that do if there is no reasonable or possible way to connect that gun to the owner who purchased it?

"Well cheif, we know the gun used to murder this family was made by S&W and was sold within the U.S. I think we have to interview all the citizens. I'll start in R.I. and you start in California...we'll meet in Texas."
2013-04-24 01:16:16 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: shaken_not_stirred: As I understand it, Islam is not a race.

so... what do we call somebody who is virulently anti-islam?


Well informed.

Why would an islamo-fascist try to buy a gun at a gun show when they can claim to be part of a Mexican cartel and buy them at a discount from the DOJ?
2013-04-24 01:13:25 PM  
1 vote:

numbquil: Mimic_Octopus: you are a puppet: Treygreen13: you are a puppet: Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.

Having background checks doesn't change "our way of lives"

So how are you going to enforce a background check for private face-to-face dealings?

How do you enforce one friend selling sex to another friend privately?

i shouldnt ask, but have you ever seen a serial number on a pussy?


The serial number on a firearm is completely useless unless it is listed in a database along with the name of the owner. Contrary to what most Americans believe, a gun could be found at the scene of a crime with it's serial number intact and that means nothing. There isn't some hyper-advanced computer system like on CSI that holds all knowledge in the universe. There are actually laws against creating a database that would allow law enforcement to instantly tie a firearm to the owner.


Really. So the fact that a law enforcement agency can call the manufacturer, who can name the distributor, who can name the dealer, who can look up the gun and purchaser info in their ATF bound book (or the ATF can do this themselves once the Dealer's records are turned over to the ATF upon closing), means that it's completely useless? Good to know.
2013-04-24 01:07:11 PM  
1 vote:

youknowme: man, reading some of these comments from the derpsters makes me look forward to the Second American Revolution.


Are the goddamned Brits trying to tax us without proper representation again?
2013-04-24 12:47:49 PM  
1 vote:

Hydra: BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR PRESSURE COOKERS!!


How about this, I will not infringe in your right to have pressure cookers, you can have as many as you want, but since you are obviously too stupid to own any weapons, we will take those. Deal?
2013-04-24 12:35:46 PM  
1 vote:
It's really telling/crazy that so many gun nuts think it's their right to sell their guns to their friends without any type of restriction. They don't see the glaringly obvious problem with this.

And how would we enforce it? Easily, with registration. We find a gun not registered to the person holding it, and if it wasn't stolen, the owner is liable for the actions just like the criminal. That will stop straw purchases and private transfers real quick.

Incoming - herp a derpa confiscation mohammed jihad.

Anyway, I'm off to go get blacked out drunk and drive on the freeway, because no one is irresponsible until they actually kill someone. Stop infringing on my right to get drunk and drive. I've never killed anyone before, why are you putting restrictions on MY constitutional right to transportation? Just because I drink from a 'scary' Jim Bean bottle? You're racist.
2013-04-24 12:34:57 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: shaken_not_stirred: As I understand it, Islam is not a race.

so... what do we call somebody who is virulently anti-islam?


A Republican
2013-04-24 12:32:28 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: shaken_not_stirred: As I understand it, Islam is not a race.

so... what do we call somebody who is virulently anti-islam?


Bubba?
2013-04-24 12:31:23 PM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: I know there's this idea that gun shows are some sort of arms exchange free-for-all, but a lot of them are organized and run by licensed gun dealers, who actually do background checks. Private sellers are usually in the minority and even then they sell more accessories and other stuff than actual guns, especially assault rifles and the like.


I often hear this so it makes me wonder if it is true, then why the objection to closing what is popularly referred to as the "gun show loophole".  Seriously.  From what I hear from the pro-gun side is that through similar reasoning as stated above, even at gun shows purchases have background checks by default.

Well if that is true, then passing a law eliminating what is popularly referred to as the "gun show loophole" would not cause any added hassle at gun shows and would not be noticed by the gun buying public.  So why not then support it as a way to appease the gun control crowd and give lip service to gun safety for political brownie points?
2013-04-24 12:28:37 PM  
1 vote:

you are a puppet: Treygreen13: you are a puppet: Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.

Having background checks doesn't change "our way of lives"

So how are you going to enforce a background check for private face-to-face dealings?

How do you enforce one friend selling sex to another friend privately?


i shouldnt ask, but have you ever seen a serial number on a pussy?
2013-04-24 12:24:52 PM  
1 vote:
Al Qaida guy says we should give up our freedom to protect us from him.
2013-04-24 12:21:44 PM  
1 vote:

shaken_not_stirred: As I understand it, Islam is not a race.


so... what do we call somebody who is virulently anti-islam?
2013-04-24 12:20:58 PM  
1 vote:

GoldSpider: goodolboy71: You don't really believe this do you? If so, what caliber makes a weapon an "assault rifle"

I bet he doesn't know, also, that an AR-15 fires a relatively small caliber bullet.


My AR-15 currently fires .22LR caliber ammunition. However, the presence of a collapsing stock may imbue those bullets with armour penetrating capabilities.
2013-04-24 12:20:54 PM  
1 vote:
i950.photobucket.com

What a Muslim at a gun show may look like.
2013-04-24 12:18:08 PM  
1 vote:
Yes, the threat of terrorism is so great, all those muslims have been carrying out mass shootings every year in the US for the last decade and....

What's that?  Almost all those mass shootings were carried out by lonely white dudes?  Huh.
2013-04-24 12:16:23 PM  
1 vote:
Nothing to worry about.  Those rednecks that sell guns at gun shows wouldn't sell to anyone who isn't a white full blooded American Christian.
2013-04-24 12:13:56 PM  
1 vote:
The terrorist is probably right, buying a rifle at a gun show would probably give them a higher kill count than a bomb. But they'll have to really try to stand out, considering that colleges, theaters, congress critters and even children have all been shot up before.

For shootings in America, the bar is high, our skin is thick, and our memory is short.
2013-04-24 12:12:36 PM  
1 vote:

special20: madgonad: The dipshiat is only partially correct. Buy an assault rifle without ID - yes. Fully automatic - no.

Some weapons can be converted from semi-automatic to fully-automatic. I hear they sell kits.


I caught sayof that too.  In some cases it's as easy as filing down the right component(s).  Therefore, fully automatic assault rifles should be legal since criminals have acces to hardware stores.
2013-04-24 12:08:17 PM  
1 vote:

Treygreen13: you are a puppet: Tatsuma: ... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.

Having background checks doesn't change "our way of lives"

So how are you going to enforce a background check for private face-to-face dealings?


How do you enforce one friend selling sex to another friend privately?
2013-04-24 12:06:59 PM  
1 vote:
Many of you are assuming that:
1) The prospective terrorist has a Muslim appearance; and / or
2) The prospective terrorist would approach the sellers directly rather than use a straw buyer.
2013-04-24 12:05:40 PM  
1 vote:
smerfnablin:

4. And then there are "private dealers" who will sell you a few used firearm face to face without a background check or any paperwork. The items are usually very over priced plus these types of individuals are few and far between. These are usually the guys that fly all the huge flags over their tables of objectionable message and have very interesting things to say about politics and religion.

Do you think a muslim with a noticeable accent really wants to approach one of these individuals and attempt to purchase a firearm from them?


"Their money's green & American and it's for a good cause."

Profit over prophet, y'know.
2013-04-24 12:05:38 PM  
1 vote:
They love Obama's immigration policies as well!
2013-04-24 12:03:51 PM  
1 vote:

nekom: Not sure why you mentioned Sandy Hook, that was his mother's legally acquired and fully background checked guns there.


She was a law-abiding gun owner. As was her son, until he stopped abiding.
2013-04-24 12:03:39 PM  
1 vote:
Clearly the answer is to arm... someone? I need some help here, guys.
2013-04-24 12:02:41 PM  
1 vote:
Did they end the video with the advice to go shoot up a 'gun-free' zone?
2013-04-24 11:55:05 AM  
1 vote:
... so we should just restrict our rights and freedom because some people might exploit them? Al Qaeda found a loophole, well good for them, but it should have exactly 0% influence on any decisions in the matter. fark them, we're not going to change our way of lives one more iota because of them.
2013-04-24 11:11:54 AM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: I know there's this idea that gun shows are some sort of arms exchange free-for-all, but a lot of them are organized and run by licensed gun dealers, who actually do background checks. Private sellers are usually in the minority and even then they sell more accessories and other stuff than actual guns, especially assault rifles and the like.


A lot of gaps in there.

Where did the Tsarnaevs get theirs?
2013-04-24 10:50:09 AM  
1 vote:
Aarontology: I'm not worried about this, and you know why?

The folks who go to gun showsrun elections would never in a million years provide a voter IDsell a gun to a guy  who looked muslim-y.
2013-04-24 10:48:45 AM  
1 vote:

Aarontology: I'm not worried about this, and you know why?

The folks who go to gun shows would never in a million years sell a gun to a guy who looked muslim-y.


You mean the guy with all the Third Reich paraphernalia for sale because of its "historical value" might not want to sell his stuff to brown folks?
2013-04-24 10:45:09 AM  
1 vote:

markie_farkie: Saw somewhere else that even if SOMEONE IS ON THE TERROR WATCHLIST they can still buy a firearm even with a background check..

WTF?


Yup, all they need to do is a 'private seller' transaction, no check required.
2013-04-24 10:41:54 AM  
1 vote:
Saw somewhere else that even if SOMEONE IS ON THE TERROR WATCHLIST they can still buy a firearm even with a background check..

WTF?
2013-04-24 10:41:29 AM  
1 vote:
The dipshiat is only partially correct. Buy an assault rifle without ID - yes. Fully automatic - no.

You will need Bitcoins and some encryption software to buy class 3 weapons.
2013-04-24 10:36:33 AM  
1 vote:
i assumed this was fake, until i googled the guy. i guess he's the real deal. what a farking asshole.
 
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