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(NBC News)   Mosque refuses to bury Boston bomber: "This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim"   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 362
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2013-04-24 09:53:14 AM
If this is the mosque in Cambridge, I'm not surprised. It's a pretty liberal community that doesn't seem to have much patience with radicalism. I'm not very familiar with the other mosques in the area but I can't imagine any of them being all that different.
 
2013-04-24 10:00:08 AM
I'm sure someone somewhere has a freshly-dug outhouse basement that would fit the bill.
 
2013-04-24 10:01:52 AM
Meanwhile, a megachurch attendee in Sisterscrew, AR, is rubbing one out to the thought of Eric Rudolph before she goes to yell at pregnant women outside a clinic.
 
2013-04-24 10:07:01 AM
wait, I thought the Muslim religion was based on killing as many people a possible.  that's what Glenn Beck told me.
 
2013-04-24 10:07:46 AM
I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.
 
2013-04-24 10:16:59 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


I'm sure there is someone in Boston with a big enough boat for the job.
 
2013-04-24 10:20:04 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


Fark him. Chuck him in the ocean like a dead raccoon just like we did with bin laden.
 
2013-04-24 10:23:38 AM

EyeballKid: Meanwhile, a megachurch attendee in Sisterscrew, AR, is rubbing one out to the thought of Eric Rudolph before she goes to yell at pregnant women outside a clinic.


Get it right.  Thats Sisercousinscrew AR
 
2013-04-24 10:25:37 AM
Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.
 
2013-04-24 10:27:00 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


I think we can just dig a hole and chuck him in, they just don't want to do a service for him, since he was a scumbag.
 
2013-04-24 10:28:19 AM
Earlier this week, Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston told The Huffington Post: "I would not be willing to do a funeral for him. This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim."

So, No True Muslim, then?  Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?  No, I think it's more a case that there's no room for him at that particular mosque - and not surprisingly, since they already were getting ready to kick him out.

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


It seems the family are not Muslims, or at least not devout.  They can find him a plot in a public cemetery if the Muslims find him unfit for burial in hallowed ground.  It's not like other religions haven't also had injunctions against certain people being buried in hallowed ground because of their actions.  Most notably the Catholics, though not so much in America in recent years.

He should get a decent burial, though, if only for the sake of the family.
 
2013-04-24 10:29:06 AM
Good for them. They need to draw a bright line between mainstream Islam and these rabble of violent radicals. Muslims need to be more vocal about speaking out against them.
 
2013-04-24 10:31:27 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?


There's no room for killers in Christianity, and yet many terrorist killers are Christian. What's your so-called point? Other than ignorant bigotry, I mean.
 
2013-04-24 10:31:41 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Earlier this week, Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston told The Huffington Post: "I would not be willing to do a funeral for him. This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim."

So, No True Muslim, then?  Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?  No, I think it's more a case that there's no room for him at that particular mosque - and not surprisingly, since they already were getting ready to kick him out.

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.

It seems the family are not Muslims, or at least not devout.  They can find him a plot in a public cemetery if the Muslims find him unfit for burial in hallowed ground.  It's not like other religions haven't also had injunctions against certain people being buried in hallowed ground because of their actions.  Most notably the Catholics, though not so much in America in recent years.

He should get a decent burial, though, if only for the sake of the family.


They can easily get him a plot in Mt. Auburn Cemetery. That's where we "interred" my grandmother's ashes right before we scattered them in the desert of New Mexico.
 
2013-04-24 10:32:33 AM

JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.


I bet Whitey Bulger could find them a good spot.
 
2013-04-24 10:33:16 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.

 
2013-04-24 10:37:44 AM

czetie: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?

There's no room for killers in Christianity, and yet many terrorist killers are Christian. What's your so-called point? Other than ignorant bigotry, I mean.


Read the rest and stop cherry-picking to pick a biatch-fight.

You probably weren't around then, but when JPII said there was no room in the Catholic Church for anyone who would harm a child, I asked the same question - if there is no room for a child molester in the Catholic Church, then how come so many child molesters are priests?  I have also asked your question - if there is no place in Christianity for people who murder innocents, how come so many abortion clinic bombers are Christians?

What they mean is, there's no room for radicals in our particular church/mosque/parish/whatever.  But, sadly, there is room for all kinds of radicals in every religion, somewhere.
 
2013-04-24 10:39:20 AM

Gulper Eel: JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.

I bet Whitey Bulger could find them a good spot.


LOL
 
2013-04-24 10:45:57 AM

make me some tea: Good for them. They need to draw a bright line between mainstream Islam and these rabble of violent radicals. Muslims need to be more vocal about speaking out against them.


I believe many do, and have done so pretty consistently over the last decade; I doubt they get much coverage though. I know it's a much different dynamic up here in Canada, but law enforcement has actively groomed good relationships with community leaders that has resulted in a foiled attacks like last week's in Toronto. There's a much lessened adversarial relationship between the communities, and that's a point in which some branches of law enforcement and government have tripped up on down south.

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2013-04-24 10:47:10 AM

make me some tea: Good for them. They need to draw a bright line between mainstream Islam and these rabble of violent radicals. Muslims need to be more vocal about speaking out against them.


Please stop telling cultures and religions you don't understand how they should act from an American perspective.

Thanks,
The World
 
2013-04-24 10:51:22 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: But, sadly, there is room for all kinds of radicals in every religion, somewhere.


FTFY. I still have no idea what point you  think you're making, but calling out Islam as a whole because these terrorists were Islam isn't helping you make it. I could call myself a vegetarian and go around killing people in the name of vegetarianism, but that doesn't mean that there is room in vegetarianism for killers.

Incidentally, if you want to have a "biatch fight" I can't help you, because that requires two biatches.
 
2013-04-24 11:00:44 AM
let his mama ship his stiff ass back to ruskyville
 
2013-04-24 11:17:40 AM
calling IRONY tag to the red courtesy phone...
 
2013-04-24 11:18:16 AM

JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.


Frak that.  We finally got the Hahbah cleaned up. Not gonna re-pollute it  with that scum.
 
2013-04-24 11:18:26 AM

JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.


They have water pollution laws now...
 
2013-04-24 11:18:27 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


Personally, I'd rather see him taken out on the Slice of Life

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2013-04-24 11:18:31 AM
Are his parents in the US or are they abroad now? If they're abroad, embalm him and send his body to his parents for burial. I'll even pitch in for the costs. He's their son and they should take care of him as they see fit. Let that be their decision.

If we bury him in the US, assholes will just vandalize the grave.
 
2013-04-24 11:18:42 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


Wow.  Ever heard the expression, "damned if you do, damned if you don't"?
 
2013-04-24 11:19:11 AM
If only that attitude was more prevalent. Great on them, and once again shows that the overwhelming majority of American Muslims reject terrorism.
 
2013-04-24 11:19:43 AM
Another vote for "chuck him off a boat", maybe in shark-infested waters.
 
2013-04-24 11:20:05 AM

make me some tea: Muslims need to be more vocal about speaking out against them.


What the fark else do you want them to do? Do you want CAIR to start running TV ads during the Super Bowl?
 
2013-04-24 11:20:10 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Earlier this week, Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston told The Huffington Post: "I would not be willing to do a funeral for him. This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim."

So, No True Muslim, then?  Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?  No, I think it's more a case that there's no room for him at that particular mosque - and not surprisingly, since they already were getting ready to kick him out.


Every time there's a terrorist attack, everyone starts demanding to know where the Muslim outrage is.  Well, here it is.  What does it take to satisfy you people?

/refuses to condemn a billion people based on the actions of fringe psycopaths
 
2013-04-24 11:20:20 AM

nekom: Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.

Fark him. Chuck him in the ocean like a dead raccoon just like we did with bin laden.


Lawls.
 
2013-04-24 11:20:59 AM
Politics tab?  Way to keep it devisive Drew.
 
2013-04-24 11:20:59 AM
Remember when the Romans put up crucifixes along major roads as a warning? Yeah, lets bring that back.
 
2013-04-24 11:21:12 AM

Bondith: Benevolent Misanthrope: Earlier this week, Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston told The Huffington Post: "I would not be willing to do a funeral for him. This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim."

So, No True Muslim, then?  Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?  No, I think it's more a case that there's no room for him at that particular mosque - and not surprisingly, since they already were getting ready to kick him out.

Every time there's a terrorist attack, everyone starts demanding to know where the Muslim outrage is.  Well, here it is.  What does it take to satisfy you people?

/refuses to condemn a billion people based on the actions of fringe psycopaths


This is enough for me. This IS what I wanted to hear.
 
2013-04-24 11:21:24 AM
Hero tag too busy making a Mecca pilgrimage?
 
2013-04-24 11:21:38 AM

hiker9999: JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.

Frak that.  We finally got the Hahbah cleaned up. Not gonna re-pollute it  with that scum.


I think  JerseyTim  didn't mean that in the literal sense. You could pretty easily tow him out beyond the 12 mile limit. Hey, you could do it with a Boston Whaler, you know, for that added poetic touch.
 
2013-04-24 11:21:59 AM

Gonz: Another vote for "chuck him off a boat", maybe in shark-infested waters.


Bury by the cesspool at a pig farm?
 
2013-04-24 11:22:23 AM
But where are the Muslims condeming terrorism ...oh right,.
 
2013-04-24 11:22:29 AM
It be nice if more religions did this to extremists that did things in (insert religions here) name.  Just toss him in the ocean and be done with him no ceremony.
 
2013-04-24 11:22:58 AM

czetie: Benevolent Misanthrope:

Seriously - if there is no room for killers in Islam, how come so many terrorist killers are Muslim?

There's no room for killers in Christianity, and yet many terrorist killers are Christian. What's your so-called point? Other than ignorant bigotry, I mean.


Um, maybe that if there is no room in Group X for killers then people who kill people can't be part of that group? And by "ignorant bigotry" you mean "inconvenient fact," don't you?

Too bad for Islam that that "no room for killers" rule would rule out Muhammad.

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2013-04-24 11:23:56 AM
While I think saying get lost on the burial is going a bit far, I have to appreciate how the Imam of the mosque is going out of his way to state these actions are not supported.

I have been very impressed with the reaction from Muslims in America about this whole situation.  Now I just wish we'd see something similar from the middle east.  This is how you join the western world, not fight it.  If this is what we saw in the middle east from Islam in other situations, we'd be a lot farther along on solving the problems there.  With this kind of mindset, Islam can take it's place alongside the other religions in the west.

/Still puzzled at why some old book based on superstitions is supposed to be taken seriously
//Because Invisible Sky Wizard is not an explanation
 
2013-04-24 11:23:57 AM

czetie: Benevolent Misanthrope: But, sadly, there is room for all kinds of radicals in every religion, somewhere.

FTFY. I still have no idea what point you  think you're making, but calling out Islam as a whole because these terrorists were Islam isn't helping you make it. I could call myself a vegetarian and go around killing people in the name of vegetarianism, but that doesn't mean that there is room in vegetarianism for killers.

Incidentally, if you want to have a "biatch fight" I can't help you, because that requires two biatches.


I think vegetarianism has the most room for killers.
 
2013-04-24 11:24:45 AM

nekom: Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.

Fark him. Chuck him in the ocean like a dead raccoon just like we did with bin laden.


This.  I really like the idea of Damnatio memoria.  He was a piece of shiat who killed innocent people to try to make a point; the best punishment is for history to forget his name.
 
2013-04-24 11:25:03 AM

JerseyTim: Maybe they can pull a bin Laden and dump him off a boat in Boston Harbor.


Put him in a giant bag marked "TEA" and call Sarah Palin
 
2013-04-24 11:25:19 AM
Good for them.  Every religion needs to be more vocal about making sure the world at large knows those who kill or purposefully bully in the name of religion are frauds.

I've always said it's not very pious or giving to taunt, shun, maim, or kill because "God told me to".  That's crap.  Especially in the modern era every pathway to goodness, even the the "religion" of atheism if you want to get snarky about it, works better by actually being good to those around you.

Religious discussions always remind me of this:
hcice.com
 
2013-04-24 11:26:02 AM

Cythraul: I appreciate the American Muslim community being all anti-extremism and stuff, but at least bury the farker.


If no one has specific arrangements to dispose of a body successfully in a sanitary manner I think the standard public deal is to cremate them, offer them to family if applicable, and if they don't want 'em to just toss them in the trash.

Honestly, wasting space burying people is creepy and a waste of time for all involved even for non-terrorist-douchebags.  I understand where the mosque is coming from but I can't say I'm really feeling that "ah, ha!  We shall not conspicuously waste inordinate time and resources on memorializing you in a blatantly over-the-top and unnecessary fashion!" really has as much symbolic take-that value as they think it does.  Most normal people barely even bother with a basic wake and a concrete plaque over a square foot of empty soil these days.
 
2013-04-24 11:26:29 AM

MadHatter500: I have been very impressed with the reaction from Muslims in America about this whole situation. Now I just wish we'd see something similar from the middle east. This is how you join the western world, not fight it. If this is what we saw in the middle east from Islam in other situations, we'd be a lot farther along on solving the problems there. With this kind of mindset, Islam can take it's place alongside the other religions in the west.


We've spent an awful lot of time farking around in the middle east, destabilizing regimes on a whim and then going in the other direction two presidencies later.  If I lived there I'd be pissed too.
 
2013-04-24 11:26:45 AM

SmackLT: Are his parents in the US or are they abroad now? If they're abroad, embalm him and send his body to his parents for burial. I'll even pitch in for the costs. He's their son and they should take care of him as they see fit. Let that be their decision.

If we bury him in the US, assholes will just vandalize the grave.


I think some kind of sea burial is in order for just that reason. Plus, it'll give the tin foil hat brigade more conspiracy fodder!
 
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