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(MSNBC)   After Boston, we should put Muslims under surveillance says GOP Rep. Peter King to the surprise of absolutely no one   (tv.msnbc.com) divider line 62
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2013-04-24 08:55:24 AM
Christ what an asshole.
 
2013-04-24 09:02:11 AM
Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...
 
2013-04-24 09:02:45 AM
Perhaps they could wear a little yellow crescent.
 
2013-04-24 09:19:33 AM
After the Troubles we didn't put the Irish under surveillance. We just gave them money, am I right Petey?
 
2013-04-24 09:33:14 AM

Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...


Don't be absurd.  White people can't be terrorists.
 
2013-04-24 09:37:31 AM

Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer facilitator...


FTFY
 
2013-04-24 09:38:13 AM

Diogenes: Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...

Don't be absurd.  White people can't be terrorists.


What about Caucasians?
 
2013-04-24 09:40:52 AM

Paris1127: Diogenes: Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...

Don't be absurd.  White people can't be terrorists.

What about Caucasians?


*sigh*  Regrettably named.
 
2013-04-24 09:56:27 AM
Land of the free*

* Some exclusions may apply.
 
2013-04-24 10:13:16 AM
I think anyone with ties to foreign terrorist organizations should be under surveillance. Further, they should be barred from holding public office. How's that strike ya, Petey?
 
2013-04-24 10:14:01 AM
Surely we'd be safer if we rounded them all up and put them into camps of some kind.
 
2013-04-24 10:14:21 AM
Then it's only fair that if the Republican politician turns out to be the ricin-letter guy, we should start rounding up and putting Republican voters under surveillance, right?
 
2013-04-24 10:14:25 AM
Maybe he can get together with Rand Paul and authorize preemptive drone strikes?
 
2013-04-24 10:16:57 AM

The Name: Then it's only fair that if the Republican politician turns out to be the ricin-letter guy, we should start rounding up and putting Republican voters under surveillance, right?


I'd be OK just setting him up as Peter King's pen pal.
 
2013-04-24 10:18:45 AM

sdd2000: Maybe he can get together with Rand Paul and authorize preemptive drone strikes?


So we'd be looking for Peter King to be coming out of a  airport washroom liquor store with $50 in his hand?
 
2013-04-24 10:21:28 AM

DarwiOdrade: Surely we'd be safer if we rounded them all up and put them into camps of some kind.


Doing so would certainly aid in allowing federal authorities to concentrate on them.
 
2013-04-24 10:22:02 AM

I_Am_Weasel: sdd2000: Maybe he can get together with Rand Paul and authorize preemptive drone strikes?

So we'd be looking for Peter King to be coming out of a  airport washroom liquor store with $50 in his hand?


Neither would surprise me.
 
2013-04-24 10:28:30 AM
How does this guy have the balls to talk tough on terrorism when he helped fund the IRA?  How do reporters not call him on that shiat?
 
2013-04-24 10:28:47 AM
After Boston, we should put Muslims fundamentalists of all religionsunder surveillance

How about this?
 
2013-04-24 10:31:36 AM

James!: How does this guy have the balls to talk tough on terrorism when he helped fund the IRA?  How do reporters not call him on that shiat?


Exactly.  I expect a politician to be blatantly hypocritical and/or parochial.  But how he's not challenged by the press for it is stunning.
 
2013-04-24 10:33:09 AM

lilbjorn: After Boston, we should put Muslims fundamentalists of all religionsunder surveillance

How about this?


I think there is a constructional issue here.
 
2013-04-24 10:34:26 AM
Start with Muslims and eventually you get around to everyone. Easier and more ethical to track explosives and weapons than people.
 
2013-04-24 10:34:56 AM

James!: How does this guy have the balls to talk tough on terrorism when he helped fund the IRA?  How do reporters not call him on that shiat?


Boggles my mind, he's an embrassment to all of us in Long Island.
 
2013-04-24 10:34:59 AM

I_Am_Weasel: sdd2000: Maybe he can get together with Rand Paul and authorize preemptive drone strikes?

So we'd be looking for Peter King to be coming out of a  airport washroom liquor store with $50 in his hand?


"Okay Pete King is coming out" seems appropriate here.
 
2013-04-24 10:35:09 AM

Aarontology: Perhaps they could wear a little yellow crescent.


If someone now suggested this, I would not be surprised at all.
 
2013-04-24 10:35:11 AM
King strikes me as one of these guys who just says shiat that plays well with the talk radio crowd.
 
2013-04-24 10:41:29 AM
So let me guess, the bottom line of his argument is that since several terrorist groups are connected to radical sects of Islam, then we need to put all muslims under surveillance?

I guess we have to put all right wingers under surveillance too.  And irish cathlolics - see the IRA.   And irish protestants - see the other side of the IRA coin.   And christians - see all the crazy farks who have done violent acts (killing abortion doctors, etc.) in the name of God.
 
2013-04-24 10:42:46 AM
I need a false sense of security. Shut up and take my freedoms!
 
2013-04-24 10:43:22 AM

Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...


Bears bears bears.
 
2013-04-24 10:44:31 AM
What's asinine about this? The fact that he doesn't understand that we already do put Muslims under surveillance? We have done this since long before the bombing, and will continue to do so. Sleep well. You're welcome.
 
2013-04-24 10:46:20 AM

lilbjorn: After Boston, we should put Muslims fundamentalists of all religionsunder surveillance

How about this?



Exactly.  How about we do what we already do - use the resources we have available to track and keep tabs on specific groups that have shown a propensity for terrorist/violent activity.

Focusing on putting all "muslims" under surveillance is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.  It's the equivalent of advocating surveillance on all christians because that one crazy fark in sweden was a radical christian.  You're just going to end up wasting time trying to watch millions and millions of completely innocent, nonviolent people.

God I hate the level of public discourse in this country.  We shouldn't have to condemn people like King - he should just be ignored and voted out of office.  Assholes like King - who are rewarded with all sorts of airtime for acting like an asshole - are in charge of our public discourse thanks to a sensationalist media, and are at the root of the problem.
 
2013-04-24 10:49:09 AM

Chummer45: God I hate the level of public discourse in this country. We shouldn't have to condemn people like King - he should just be ignored and voted out of office. Assholes like King - who are rewarded with all sorts of airtime for acting like an asshole - are in charge of our public discourse thanks to a sensationalist media, and are at the root of the problem.


No, the root of the problem is a dumb-as-a-sack-of-hammers populace that creates demand for sensationalist media and elects people like King.
 
2013-04-24 10:50:58 AM

The Name: Chummer45: God I hate the level of public discourse in this country. We shouldn't have to condemn people like King - he should just be ignored and voted out of office. Assholes like King - who are rewarded with all sorts of airtime for acting like an asshole - are in charge of our public discourse thanks to a sensationalist media, and are at the root of the problem.

No, the root of the problem is a dumb-as-a-sack-of-hammers populace that creates demand for sensationalist media and elects people like King.


Chicken (Fox News) and Egg (dumbass populace) argument here.  Make some omelettes and fried chicken, I say.
 
2013-04-24 10:51:06 AM

Chummer45: God I hate the level of public discourse in this country. We shouldn't have to condemn people like King - he should just be ignored and voted out of office. Assholes like King - who are rewarded with all sorts of airtime for acting like an asshole - are in charge of our public discourse thanks to a sensationalist media, and are at the root of the problem.


This many times.  Unfortunately, King's level of discourse IS representative of the level of discourse of a large number of Americans.  We may never be able to get them to crawl back under their rocks.
 
2013-04-24 10:52:50 AM
Waiting for Bachmann to get pissed that King is stealing her act.
 
2013-04-24 10:54:05 AM
Just like if there is an active serial killer we should detain and question every white male in the area. That's just common sense.
 
2013-04-24 11:00:20 AM
Seems doubtful that the this kind of surveillance would even do anything considering that the FBI *did* interview the older brother and gave him a clean bill of health.
 
2013-04-24 11:01:42 AM

coeyagi: The Name: Chummer45: God I hate the level of public discourse in this country. We shouldn't have to condemn people like King - he should just be ignored and voted out of office. Assholes like King - who are rewarded with all sorts of airtime for acting like an asshole - are in charge of our public discourse thanks to a sensationalist media, and are at the root of the problem.

No, the root of the problem is a dumb-as-a-sack-of-hammers populace that creates demand for sensationalist media and elects people like King.

Chicken (Fox News) and Egg (dumbass populace) argument here.  Make some omelettes and fried chicken, I say.


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Sometimes I feel like such a shill for this book, but it really is a virtual comprehensive guide to American culture, and it pretty much supports my side of what you correctly pointed out as the "chicken and egg" problem of American discourse.  Given that it was written in 1964, I'm sure it's been critiqued to death by a lot of historians by now, but anyone who has lived in the US his or her entire life will find that it rings pretty true.
 
2013-04-24 11:04:15 AM

Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...


The Irish are white, it's a totally different thing.
 
2013-04-24 11:07:29 AM
Constitution!? Fark that, there's brown people to persecute!
 
2013-04-24 11:14:25 AM

Dimensio: DarwiOdrade: Surely we'd be safer if we rounded them all up and put them into camps of some kind.

Doing so would certainly aid in allowing federal authorities to concentrate on them.


Not to mention, it wouldn't be the  first time we had done such a thing

.
 
2013-04-24 11:21:50 AM

Tommy Moo: What's asinine about this? The fact that he doesn't understand that we already do put Muslims under surveillance? We have done this since long before the bombing, and will continue to do so. Sleep well. You're welcome.


Everything about Peter King.
 
2013-04-24 11:23:55 AM

Paris1127: Ah yes, Peter King, terrorist sympathizer...


That's not really all such an uncommon thing, at least in NY. 9/11 caused a lot of people to rethink their positions on "freedom fighters". I grew up around a lot of IRA sympathizers. Many family friends were big NORAID supporters, usually with a wink and a nod about how the widows and children of the Troubles needed new weapons. My basement was filled with posters supporting Bobby Sands and the hunger strikers, Margaret Thatcher wanted posters, etc. The first song I knew the words to after children's songs was Men Behind the Wire. My dad and his band played benefits in Ireland for the prisoners, all that crap. 9/11 changed everything, as the cliche goes. Suddenly people were rethinking what was once regarded as a noble struggle for freedom by any means necessary. The fact that the Troubles quieted down a lot certainly didn't help but the mindset changed. The enemy was no longer the Prods or the people of the UK. Sometimes shiat has to hit close to home to change a person's mind for the better.

/CSB
 
2013-04-24 11:24:42 AM

The Name: Sometimes I feel like such a shill for this book, but it really is a virtual comprehensive guide to American culture, and it pretty much supports my side of what you correctly pointed out as the "chicken and egg" problem of American discourse.  Given that it was written in 1964, I'm sure it's been critiqued to death by a lot of historians by now, but anyone who has lived in the US his or her entire life will find that it rings pretty true.


I've been meaning to read that book. Didn't know it was written all the way back in '64.
 
2013-04-24 11:46:46 AM
He's right, we're at war, and can't be politically correct... That said, we need to round up all White Men to make up for the rest of the US domestic terror attacks. As a White man this worries me, but as that nice Mr King pointed out, this isn't the time to be nice, I guess I'll talk to you guys on the "other side", I'm off to be gleaned for "intel", I guess...
 
2013-04-24 11:50:59 AM

James!: How does this guy have the balls to talk tough on terrorism when he helped fund the IRA?  How do reporters not call him on that shiat?


If you've got 60 seconds to kill and want some fun, call his office and ask about it. As soon as you bring it up they'll get super pissed and scream at you. At least they did back when I called a few years ago following King's herp derp over the "Ground Zero Mosque."
 
2013-04-24 12:32:45 PM

impaler: I've been meaning to read that book. Didn't know it was written all the way back in '64.


I always want to tell people, "Read the book, and THEN look at the copyright date," but the date is on the damn cover. :-(
 
2013-04-24 12:45:54 PM
If I saw him drowning, I wouldn't even offer him a shove.
 
2013-04-24 01:19:24 PM
It's no surprise that Peter King is quite IRAte over our recent Troubles.
 
2013-04-24 01:26:02 PM
I'd be fine with putting Muslims under surveillance as a result of the Boston bombings as long as a study is done to determine what percentage of murders in the country are carried out by people who identify as Christians and place a proportional amount of surveillance on that group as well.
 
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